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Will this game ever be topped? It's the best written and most atmospheric game I've ever played.
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Bumping with best girl.
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>>502071468
>Will this game ever be topped?
VLR
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>>502075420
fucking this, sigma was a goddamn hero
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>>502075420
This, the prosopagnosia nonsense in 999 kind of ruined the ending to me.
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>>502071468
>Will this game ever be topped? It's the best written and most atmospheric game I've ever played.
>have 9 hours to get the fuck out of a sinking ship
>let's have hour long conversations every time we open a door
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>>502071468
Ghost Trick.
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>>502076509
I liked 999 but this is so true.
>This key might go in the door. I'm gonna try it.
>Yeah, try it. I wonder if it'll fit.
>Here I go...
>*click*
>Whoa, it unlocked. That's great!
>Yes, let's go in. Hurry!
>Right behind you!
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>>502071468
>the best written and most atmospheric game
That's Pathologic 2.
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>>502073041
fucking dumb hoe
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>>502071468
Ghost Trick Phantom Dick
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The twist was really well done with the CEO stuff. The june thing was a little eh though
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>>502077134
Someone got an axe to the face, am I right, anon?
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>Clover goes from a cute girl who goes fucking crazy understandably which created a great ending to some dumb whiny bitch who throws tantrums and is attached to an absolute cunt
What went wrong?
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>>502077235
I like July more
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>>502071468
>best written
you need to play more games
>most atmospheric
i would be willing to cede that, though
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>>502077306
axe was my first ending in 999
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>>502071468
ZTD has the best villain
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>>502078905
but what were his motives?
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Got Knife Ending first time around, pretty cool.
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>>502078956
To save the future.
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>>502071468
>tfw I'm the only one in existence who enjoyed every Zero Escape game
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>called zero escape
>there is a way to escape
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>>502078749
I managed to dodge the axe, but got a knife in the back.

My only problem is how the game endings came out of nowhere sometimes. And you pass from winning, to mass slaughter really fast.

Same with VLR
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>>502080206
Should've been Zero's Escape.
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>>502080104
>enjoyed ztd
Bro what
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>>502080474
That's a smarter title.
>>502080786
That's why he said he's the only one in existence.
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>>502071468
DUDE SNAILS LMAO
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>>502077550
She was exposed to Alice
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>>502081420
Dude, mind hack.
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>>502076857
All Japanese games are written like this, it's bizarre.
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>>502076469
If an actual, real medical condition that some people have is nonsense in your book, then VLR should be more nonsensical by a factor of 10. And that's coming from somebody who loved both.
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>>502081420
>>502081609
WHY OH WHY did they give Sigma absolutely ZERO (heh) interaction with his son?? At least he acknowledged Diana in one of the endings but Sigma should have beat the living daylights out of Delta for putting them through that bullshit, I know my dad would
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>>502081804
This, what the fuck. Why do people think prosopagnosia is fake? It's a real condition.
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>>502081420
dude alien fax machine lmao
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>>502075420
Meh.
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ZTD > VLR
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>>502075420
No not at all. People who say this usually forget that the game is 70% a slog while 999 manages to be entertaining all the time.
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>>502071468
>I kidnapped kids and made them participate in a death game because I can't see faces

>ahhh Kanny! I know you were just a childhood friend from when I was 12 and I haven't seen you in 9 years, but I love you and want to marry you!
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>>502071468
you forgot to post the game
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>>502086527
nah I say it because it's true
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It's... difficult to boil the reason down to one word
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>>502086996
>Alice
Still makes me mad.
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>>502087151
It's simple...you were born a shitter
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To people who ask why Dio allied with Luna, it happens in a timeline where Dio didn't kill Akane.

Brother gave him an instruction. To stop the AB Project. His goal was to kill Akane and take part of the AB Game and beat it. If he failed to kill Akane, he was supposed to plant the bombs and destroy everything.

Thus, in the timeline where Akane doesn't die (where you pair up with Alice) Dio has no reason to win the AB Game anymore, thus proceeds to plant the bombs and doesn't give a fuck about the game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9yoeUXJvmA
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>>502071468
>recently did first playthrough completely blind
>as im progressing think its kind of neat how much the game references stuff that happened in the rooms i chose to go into
>finish the playthrough and check the ending tree out of curiosity
>turns out the reason it referenced my choices was because i accidentally chose the best possible path for a first playthrough (safe)
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>>502086701
Nigga what?
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>>502086527
I play both back to back, and I vastly enjoy both. It's hard for me to say which one I prefer.
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>>502087864
Dude, Safe fucking sucks for a first playthrough. I'm so glad that was the second to last ending I got before the True Ending.
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I liked AI but it was way more comedy focused than ur usual ZE game. The mystery was pretty good but sucked in the end which should've been the high point of the series. Sad. I hope we might get another game similar to the ZE series. It doesnt have to come from Spike Chunsoft necessary.
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>tfw when I was a child I dreamt a "To Be Continue" scenario with flashing images and a whole "the story's not over yet!" thing exactly like how the Coffin Ending has
When it happened in the game I felt like I was tripping the fuck out because I basically had a premonition of that ending. It was crazy.
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>>502089282
Uchikoshi started a company with the creator of Danganronpa, and they're working on like five or six projects (not counting the Danganronpa anniversary stuff), majority of which seems to be mystery focused.
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>>502080104
nah bro I enjoyed all 3 but ZTD is not as good as the first 2.
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What were they thinking with Delta?
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Any similar games?
Mystery visual novels with gameplay segments
>inb4 AA and Danganronpa
played it
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>>502089458
can't wait to see what death march club is gonna turn out to be
it's coming out in june i think
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>>502071468
Random talk about Zero Escape games lately. With ZTD, this series should be dead.
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>Why yes, I think that ZTD doesn't deserve the hate and is actually the best in the series thanks to its high quality puzzles plus well written and designed character. How could you tell?
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>>502090428
Ghost Trick, but it's not really a visual novel.
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>>502084847
I hope I'll never be this bamboozled for the rest of my life.
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>>502090428
do you care about gameplay segments?
if not then ever 17, remember 11 and root double are really close atmosphere-wise
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Why did he love Cunny so much?
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>>502089597
true that
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one of the things i love about 999 is the absence of flowchart, it actually prompts you to think more about what to do next instead of blindly selecting another nod like you do in the sequels
literally drawing my own flowchart on a piece of paper was among the most fun times i had playing a game
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>>502090770
>>502091172
thank you
I know about Infinity series but is it a requirement to play all of them? Since people mostly recommmend e7 and n11. What about the rest?
>root double
sounds good
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>>502073041
I legit wish the Axe ending would have let us try to leave with Clover, being mentally broken into worshiping her.

God I was so fucking erect during that part.
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>>502092412
>is it a requirement to play all of them
no, i don't think so, have only played those two tho
they're not direct sequels, more like sharing a universe
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>>502093401
I fucking wish. That instant Stockholm when he thought she was letting him off was amazing. I honestly thought I might have made just enough correct choices to have that happen but then... well let’s just say I gotta hand it to her. Crazy Clover is best Clover.
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>>502090428
YYTD I couldn't recommend enough, really nails down the atmosphere 999 had going for it, and the characters are fantastically well written.
Only problem is it's currently unfinished but it's nearly there.
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>>502093401
I watched a playthrough of the game when I was 11 or something and I felt something weird during that scene. Now that I'm older I realized that even as a kid I thought that scene was so fucking hot
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>>502080104
I enjoyed them all anon, you're not alone!
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>>502082035
Rushed game with Zero (lel) budget. I still liked it but godamn
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>>502075563
My fuckin nigga. I loved every second of VLR mainly because of the ultimate brotag Siggy. I went in thinking he'd be alright like Junpei, but I feel in love with that character. It's funny that even now Uchi can't quite move away from that persona for protagonists, because date was almost a carbon copy of siggy.

I know the world of ZE is ruined forever after ZTD, but god I wouldn't mind one more game playing as sigma.

>>502076509
>we're locked in a freezer
>we'd better hurry or we'll freeze to death
>by the way have you heard of all-ice?
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999's dub is pretty fantastic.
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>>502090428
your turn to die, it's free
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>>502090428
Umineko is one of the good ones if you don't care about gameplay.
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>>502090678
We talk about what it was and what we loved about it. Not what it became.

>>502089458
>>502090506
Hope we get some on that one soon, it's been unusually quiet. Then the anime they've been working on goes up in July. Combined with a mobile (yuck) game surrounding baseball. Lowkey I'm hoping Leon or Kanon show up in the baseball game. But I'm really interested to see what they cook up for the DR anniversary. Especially if Uchi gets involved, that should really change up the formula.

>>502090428
Death Mark and NG, spooky mystery games where you solve spirit cases by investigating scenes. If you make it to NG you get sung to to scare the spooks away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa0smYh-FPk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj7BxrZXtv8
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>>502096359
It's not a mobile game, dipshit. They're releasing it on a bunch of different consoles. Kodaka said as much. He also said Leon could potentially show up.
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>>502097560
Article? The one I read said it was a mobile game.
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I love Luna
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>>502081609
Dude, I'm 124!!
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>>502087864
>ending tree
>999
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>>502080104
Untrue.
999 > ZTD > VLR for me, but all of them had me enraptured for days.
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>>502081420
Steve jobs looking ass
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are all the zero escape games on pc yet?
I still havent played vlr and now I learned theres even third game
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>>502099561
Yeah, all of them are on Steam. Zero Time Dilemma came out like three years ago dude. First two games are as a bundle, and remastered (well mainly the first one, I think Virtue's Last Reward only has like one voice actor changed and the rest is the same).
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>>502098802
remaster
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>>502099891
>three years ago
it'll be 4 years in two months, anon
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>>502075420
VLR's pacing is fucked, too many of the branches are virtually identical, the setting is significantly worse, the production quality is worse, and to top it all off, it's literally incomplete by design.

Even if ZTD had been amazing, VLR would still be only half a story, and that's not gonna hold up to 999 which is fully capable of standing on its own.
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>>502099019
>ZTD greater than VLR
>ZTD greater than anything
jesus dude.

>>502080104
I kind of envy you. You felt you got your monies worth, had a great experience, and didn't feel like you have been deceived and cheated after supporting a creator you admire for 2+ years. Loudly yelling at his higher ups that he deserved to finish his series and people enjoyed them. All that to prove that through crowd perseverance, the impossible can happen. Only to be presented with a shallow fart of your beloved creators capabilities.

Out of all this I think the worst part was I knew, I just knew that there was a timeline where ZTD was a hit and Uchi knocked it out of the park. I knew he was capable of doing that and he didn't. This thought of mine was confirmed when I played AI. AI had the same formula and everything I loved about the zero escape series, it had the same mojo that 999 and VLR did. Which proved that Uchi never lost his talent, he never went off the deep end. He just didn't give us the grandslam we deserve and I will always remember that.
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>>502101350
>VLR's pacing is fucked, too many of the branches are virtually identical
999 has like 5.5 unique endings but 16 branches and forces you to replay the same puzzle rooms a bunch of times.
>the production quality is worse
There are areas where VLR has better production values than 999, like the puzzles and full voice acting.
>VLR would still be only half a story
It's a full story which also sets up things for the sequel. It's like you're complaining that Empire Strikes Back doesn't resolve all plot threads.
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>>502102759
>5.5 unique endings but 16 branches
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
Nothing in 999 is like constantly having to go through the bomb scenarios over and over or doing the same AB games over and over
VLR won't even let you skip scenes you've seen before if it's on a new branch
>like the puzzles and full voice acting
But the voice acting is mediocre at best, and the puzzles really aren't much to write home about, especially when none of them actually lend themselves to an escape room. You just investigate and item and get warped to the puzzle zone, and doing it right somehow makes progress happen.
>It's a full story
If your story ends on a "see you in the sequel!" then it's not a full story.
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>>502101440
What is AI? Also I think you guys are being a bit silly, sure a good chunk of the cast was bad (Mira and the other two rejects sucked, Carlos was the only good 'new' addition). The twists were all good, he just fumbled at the ending and using the alien machine thing.

Carlos trying to be a hero only to realize that he caused the original timeline of destruction was fucking beautiful.
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>>502104085
AI: The Somnium Files is Uchi's newest game that came out late last year
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>>502103890
>If your story ends on a "see you in the sequel!" then it's not a full story.
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There's an actual nigger in this thread saying that the voice acting in VLR is bad.
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>>502104395
Not him, and I don't agree with any of his points whatsoever, but this was clearly meant as a "haha" moment. Like after all of that, and then All Ice showing up, I genuinely laughed and it was such a feel good moment. It wasn't a "what the fuck!?" moment as it's a big revelation, it's more of a "ahhhh you cheeky son of a bitch".
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>>502076469
I have a mild form of it and I do feel like the level to which Ace had it is a bit hard to believe it's also a video game. The over all work is a masterpiece.
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>>502104395
You have to be either intentionally disingenuous or straight-up retarded to think that a teaser with "All-Ice" is the same thing as VLR introducing the REAL plot at the ass-end of the game, and shipping out Sigma and Phi for their REAL mission just before the credits roll.
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>>502104409
imagine playing a japanese game and using the english dub
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The moment when they revealed that the bracelet was actually numbered zero and I went "But that's impossible because..." and realized the math all still worked out was beyond mind blowing.
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>>502080473
I think knife is the most likely first ending because you're generally inclined to try to stick with June, but not enough to try and fuck your group over.
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>>502105107
Any time I 'DM'd' a 999 playthrough I had them get the Axe ending first because it answers no questions and has them go "What the fuck is this game?" Then they're hooked and play through all the other endings.
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>>502104871
Oh no no, the weeb is going to cry because I desecrated his perfect Japanese voice acting. Tough shit, buddy. I don't wanna listen to ching chong ping pong. These are sounds, they mean absolute fuck all. They're the equivalent of shitty sound effects to me, if that.
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>>502105278
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>>502103890
>Nothing in 999 is like constantly having to go through the bomb scenarios over and over or doing the same AB games over and over
I sure loved replaying the intro 6 times to see all the endings, even more if I fucked up and accidentally triggered an ending twice.
>VLR won't even let you skip scenes you've seen before if it's on a new branch
999 doesn't let me skip puzzle rooms and only fast forward VN sections.
>But the voice acting is mediocre at best, and the puzzles really aren't much to write home about,
And they are still an improvement over 999. We even get multiple solutions to each room for some extra content.
>If your story ends on a "see you in the sequel!" then it's not a full story.
I don't agree. VLR has a full beginning, middle and an end, telling the full story behind the third Nonary Game.
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>>502090428
Nigga get caught up with Your Turn To Die so you can discuss it with us when 1-b drops.
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>>502104660
I think a better way of explaining this is though Scooby-Doo endings where it seems like something supernatural going on right at the end, but it's never touched on. It's just a more lighthearted version of that, we don't need an explanation of what's going to happen. If anything VLR fucked that over by making Alice the worst character in the game (still a fantastic game though).
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>>502094521
>>502096107
YTTD is retarded. It's Danganronpa except more pretentious and boring. The deathtrap is so fantasy-like and arbitrary that you may as well put no thought into it at all. You have to be really, really stupid to think it's a good mystery.
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>>502105397
>I sure loved replaying the intro 6 times to see all the endings
Yeah, me too. 999 was a lot of fun
>999 doesn't let me skip puzzle rooms and only fast forward VN sections.
And redoing a puzzle room takes less time than VLR wastes on rehashed scenes.
>they are still an improvement over 999
Disagree
>the full story behind the third Nonary Game
Which itself is just a prologue to the Decision Game.
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Is ever 17 worth playing?
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>>502105491
>If anything VLR fucked that over by making Alice the worst character in the game
I cannot express how disappointed I was going into VLR, seeing Alice, having Tenmyouji go "hey, I know you!" and when he FINALLY brings it up, she brushes it off like "oh, I was just in costume :^)"

Nigga what the fuck
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>>502105942
Tenmyouji being interested in Clover was such good foreshadowing though.
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>>502075420
>static image of a door
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>door opens
>static image of a corridor
>another static image of a corridor
>door
zzzzzzzzzzzz
>static image of a corridor
>another door
zzzzzzzzzzzzz
QUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK
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>>502104202
oh fuck Uchi did that? I thought it looked similar to ZTD. Time to go buy it.
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>>502073041
Fuck this dumb whore. Solution to everything for her is to kill it
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>>502105760
Yes. Though you'll enjoy it less if you played Zero Escape, since those games use the exact same plot twist. You also need to use a walkthough. It's unplayable without one.
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>>502105748
>Yeah, me too. 999 was a lot of fun
If you enjoyed replaying 999's intro so much you should have had no problem skipping through a bunch of text boxes in VLR.
>Which itself is just a prologue to the Decision Game.
Glad you agree.
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>>502098093
>No Realdoll to hold and love forever

It's not fair bros
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>>502098802
even if you're not aware theres an inbuilt one in the remaster, you know flowcharts/ending trees still exist on the internet right?
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>>502105094
Sigma's revelation was a huge mindfuck for me, haven't been that impressed since I played a VN with a twist like that (sort of). Can't remember the name but it was about some guy trying to rehabilitate three delinquent girls or some shit.
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>>502098093
>>502106673
I love her too. How do I get a Luna wife?
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>>502105760
No, the only good part is locked behind four really average waifu routes.
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>>502106949
>Can't remember the name but it was about some guy trying to rehabilitate three delinquent girls or some shit.
Shit, now I'm curious.
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>>502106578
>you should have no problem skipping through a bunch of text boxes in VLR
Zipping through previously-read text at lightning speed with one button and redoing a puzzle in a fraction of the time is a lot less tedious and cumbersome than having to mash through text boxes in minutes-long scenes that the game insists on repeating over and over again
>Glad you agree.
I didn't
It's a bloated intro chapter to ZTD.
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VNs aren't video games.
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>>502107209
>pushing a button is hard and tedious
>but solving all these previously solved puzzles again is really fun and engaging
Disagree.
>It's a bloated intro chapter to ZTD.
Still tells a full story.
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>>502107017
Build one yourself
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>>502107137
It really wasn't that good, but it had a solid 10/10 twist I didn't see.

Think it had something to do with sunflowers, lemme see if a quick google search will find the name
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>>502106673
what does luna smell like?
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>>502107996
Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shōjo
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>>502107584
>hard and tedious
I didn't say it was hard, retard. It's tedious.
It might not be the greatest to redo a puzzle room, but it is more engaging than mashing through text boxes.
I was a lot happier redoing puzzle rooms in alternate paths for 999 than I was sitting through the same AB games, all those room transitions, and all those bomb endings in VLR.
The former sure as shit wasted a lot less of my time than the latter.
>a full story
If you consider Part 1 of 2 a full story
I don't know many who would, though
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>>502107584
>Still tells a full story.
No it doesn't
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>>502071468
it was topped before it existed
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>>502108654
yu-no is shit, what a dumpster fire of a story
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>>502108125
Cheers.
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is remember 11 good?
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>>502109458
yes
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>>502108442
>It might not be the greatest to redo a puzzle room, but it is more engaging than mashing through text boxes.
It's really not, especially after the fourth time.
>If you consider Part 1 of 2 a full story
Most of the time yes. I read a lot of multi-part series and most of them tell a full story in each part while advancing an overarching plot.
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>>502109057
t. brainlet who didn't get it
maybe 07th expansion shit is more your speed
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>>502109458
Yes, but it's unfinished. It ends on a cliffhanger.
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>>502071468
It's a shame it's sequels were terrible but then again this game is perfect as a standalone title anyways
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>>502071468
tranny shit
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>>502105760
Yes it's great. Especially because my wife is in it!
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>>502109738
>I read a lot of multi-part series and most of them tell a full story in each part while advancing an overarching plot.
Then you should be able to recognize how VLR explicitly is not a full story
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>>502109994
that's danganronpa faggot. does this look like tranny shit to you?
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>>502110163
looks like pretentious shit
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>>502110081
Maybe tell me why you think it doesn't.
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>>502071468
Its writing is good but let down by the "random" infodumps
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>>502076469
Nigga Sigma never looked into a reflection to find out that he was old. Talk about ruining an ending.
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>>502110549
VLR's plot twists overall are incredibly contrived and hurt immersion the more you think about them. It's honestly best just to turn you brain off and watch it like a movie.
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>>502090428
Raging Loop.
Root Letter
Er.....Sweet Fuse I guess?
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hear me out, zero escape fighting game
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>>502105107
>>502105275
for me it was
yellow submarine we all die in a yellow submarine yellow submarine
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>>502110725
Kind of impossible when a majority of the dialogue is written by someone who turned their brain off
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>>502110549
The only mirror is specifically mentioned as being heavily smudged.
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>>502111034
Submarine is also a good one. You really just need to make sure they don't get coffin or safe.
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>>502110345
Because literally everything that happens in VLR was a big keikaku to prepare Phi and Sigma to go back into the past to stop Radical-6
There was no real conflict. It was all pre-ordained 4D chess designed as a prelude to the REAL mission.

The game ends with Akane revealing all of this
Why the fuck do you think fans were waiting with bated breath for ZTD?
Because the story wasn't finished.
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>>502111263
yep i'm glad that I good all the bad endings before the coffin and safe.
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>>502111287
>Sigma goes back in time
>Tells everyone about how dangerous this is
>Everyone treats it super casually and barely cares
That was super bungled.
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>>502111263
I got Sub first time around, then Axe. Sub was such an incredibly ending to get first time around since it was super mysterious and threw me off. Shame the other endings had nothing to do with it though but Axe and True end were just as exhilarating.
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>>502111730
So... when I made the post saying I lead them to Axe I actually meant Sub... It's been many years. Axe is still good but Sub is better for the first time. -_- I need to replay it again.
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>>502071468
>It's the best written
How? most of the stuff it had went nowhere, especially Alice
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>>502111287
>Because literally everything that happens in VLR was a big keikaku to prepare Phi and Sigma to go back into the past to stop Radical-6
I know what a setup is. Fellowship isn't any worse just because it doesn't end with Frodo destroying the ring. The Foundation short stories aren't incomplete just because we don't see if Seldon's plan succeeds.
>There was no real conflict.
Welcome to time travel stories. The same is true for 999.
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>>502111263
I think i had all the 3 bad ones before safe and coffin, it was cool as fuck
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>>502109764
>y-you just didn't get it!

Isn't it funny, the way people always fall back on this bullshit claim? I played the game. I got it. It was shit. Try using your fucking brain for once instead of making a foolish attempt to discredit someone who actually played it.
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>>502112161
>there's no real conflict in 999
Oh no you're retarded
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>>502099019
Finally somebody who agrees with me. Dont get me wrong I loved VLR but I just couldn't get into it as much .Most of the characters were just boring and the plot was cool until the terrorist where it just dragged. For me ZTD was worth it for at least D team. But Diana is my waifu so I'm a bit biased
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>>502112917
ZTD was definitely more fun to experience than VLR, even if it's technically "worse"
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>>502112898
>VLR
>There was no real conflict. It was all pre-ordained 4D chess designed as a prelude to the REAL mission.
>999
>There was real conflict. It was all pre-ordained 4D chess designed as to create a stable time loop
Sure.
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Already was.
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>>502113201
Except Akane isn't a 300IQ mastermind in 999 and it could have easily failed (and does, in most endings)

In VLR even bad endings are part of the plan, because Sigma and Phi are supposed to die and be forced to SHIFT over and over again until they're superheroes
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>>502113418
>Except Akane isn't a 300IQ mastermind in 999 and it could have easily failed (and does, in most endings)
It failing means nothing when she can just go back and take another path till she finds one that saves her
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>>502076881
>writing
yes
>atmosphere
debatable since it feels like a stage play. atmosphere is not just visuals but also the potential for interaction.
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>>502113005
That's the perfect way to put it. The plot was more interesting in VLR with Sigma's twist, but it all felt like setup. ZTD wrapped (some) things up and had more funny moments but also more moments that made me cry (yes I cried to all 3 games idgaf).
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>>502113557
It didn't work like that in 999
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>>502113713
It technically did
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>>502113418
>it could have easily failed (and does, in most endings)
There are a bunch of optional bad endings in VLR as well.
>In VLR even bad endings are part of the plan
Similar in 999. Safe ending is part of the plan.
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Speaking of SHIFTing, the force moral dilemma at the end of ZTD was so fucking terrible.
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>>502113807
>Safe ending is part of the plan
That's just one bad end.
And I don't think the they intended for Junpei to access that information from another timeline
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2014:

>What happened to kyle?
>This will be explained in ZE3. please look forward to it!

2016
>What happened to kyle?
>Monty Hall problem.
>What?
>Yes.
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>>502113713
It did because she saw (all) timelines based on choices Junpei made. We only see the timelines based on important decisions and she saw a solution. If big choices didn't help her she would have seen all the tiny little decisions that would lead to her safety
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>>502101440
It's just because
1: Some of VLR's puzzles were just bullshit
2: The twists in VLR weren't very impressive compared to the first game - literally everybody knew Dio was a bad guy from the very start of the game
3: I hated the fucking "choose ally or betray" gimmick considering half the time, it felt like you just got bad-ended for choosing wrong for no reason. Even when you end up with enough points to leave, everybody just decides to dogpile you to prevent it. It would have been cool to get some plot info from those endings too.
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>>502114542
>Even when you end up with enough points to leave, everybody just decides to dogpile you to prevent it. It would have been cool to get some plot info from those endings too.
That shit was ridiculous, why don't they dog jump the others too when they get the points
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we need ze4 with kyle
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>>502114190
And? Only some bad endings in VLR are actually part of the plan. Also, where else should that information come from?
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>>502114542
VLR had the most bullshit puzzles in any game I've ever played. Googled at least 60% of them
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>>502095316
based sigmachads. him and phi were the main reasons why i ended up enjoying VLR way more than 999 even if it does have such a stupid fucking ending and a lot of contrived plot shit, then again 999 does anyway. i also went in not expecting him to be much and similar to junpei, but i was fucking floored with just how engaged i was with him as a character. he might be one of my favourite characters of all time if not my favourite, it's a shame they completely butchered him in ZTD even if it was fucking hilarious
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>>502113590
>feels like
It's literally a stage play dear *wink* actor
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>>502113590
>debatable since it feels like a stage play.
I think that's the point anon
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>>502114990
He's my username for everything, I had to switch after playing all 3 games in 2016. Sigmachads rise up
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I unironically and not as a contrarian didn't enjoy 999 very much. I found Zero Time Dilemma more entertaining.

The puzzles may as well have not been there. I barely remember any of them. And sudoku was the finale? Really? Fucking lazy.

The writing wasn't consistent; for instance Clover murders everyone out of the blue in one of the endings, the main villain is very stupidly played for pathos because he has a neurological disorder which has nothing to do with anything, the whammy at the end doesn't make any fucking sense if you think about it for more than a minute, etc. I know the genre of the writing is more about asking questions and being mysterious, but when you've finished and it turns out the answers to the questions that were asked are insultingly silly it really detracts from the experience.

Also, the method to get the real ending didn't really make any sense to me and in the end I had to just look up which choices to take. You had to find the body of the guy who turned out not to be Clover's brother so that she could find out her brother wasn't really dead. But there wasn't really much indication that was what you had to do or that it would have that effect. Just some contrived VN nonsense to make you run through all the bad ends.
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ztd fuxking SUCKS
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>>502115254
>The villain is a pathos for-
You didnt even name the actual villain, so everything you've said is invalidated.
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>>502115254
The writing wasn't consistent between endings because the plot wasn't. Different things happen and people act different. Funny how that works
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>>502115254
>I found Zero Time Dilemma more entertaining.
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>>502112636
>shit;gate reaction image
Opinion discarded.
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>>502115438
k

>>502115452
You misunderstood what I meant. Imagine I just said the writing is shit.
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>>502115764
Fair enough if you didn't like it you didn't like it
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>>502115764
>K
what about him?
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>>502115906
Based K poster. VLR had the best and worst characters in the franchise
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>>502114990
>shame they completely butchered him in ZTD
Well, that is the old man version of him. You wanna see butchered, look at Junpei.
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>>502116061
The question is, which one was K?

>the pros
He was a nice guy some of the time
>the cons
He was irrelevant to the story and fucked you over in some endings
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>>502116061
>good characters in vlr
Sigma, Phi, Luna, Dio, Kyle, Tenmyouji
>bad characters
Quark, Alice, Clover. All of these should go die in a hole
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>>502116219
that's true, always imagined he was fucking senile at that point which made it even funnier. junpei on the other hand...
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>>502111263
I got coffin first. It wasn't so bad, I was motivated to find out wtf was in it.
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>>502086996
>What the fuck how dare you vote betray on me?
>Teehee of course I'd vote betray on you. Only an idiot would vote Ally!
Fuck Alice. Massive downgrade from Lotus.
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>>502086996
Kino timeline
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>>502086527
VLR did become a bit of a slog at times with this shit. And the door/elevator animations.
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>>502116306
One of the best. Him, Sigma, Phi, and Luna. Dio was funny sometimes and tenmyouji was disappointing for who he was. The other 3 sucked rabbit cock
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>>502116593
Worse than Mira.
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I enjoyed parts of ZTD, especially D team, but Delta and almost everything related to him kills my positive feelings. I can overlook a lot but holy shit.
At the end he was lying about everything bar the giving birth to himself right?
Because motivating character do not make any fucking sense for me since
>Sigma, Phi, Akane are already motivated and trained also they have I dunno a whole organisation (CK)
>Junpei(young) would do anything for Akane) so no need to motivate him
>Sean is a robot so I dunno just talk to him or something and he still fucked off
>Eric and Mira they didn't matter and they won't matter they fucked off
>Carlos and Diana most likely would have helped and Delta can only be awarded for training Diana, because Carlos already had SHIFTED a couple of times
And a guy who
>leads a terrorist organisation,
>killed 3/4 of the world
>just kills people including his family for no reason (the computer room ending),
>starves his family (twins ending)
and so on so on is supposed to be actually a good guy who did nothing wrong?
Also the whole game is a unfair (hehe) if you lose at coin toss you're fucked. That's it. In both 999 and VLR nobody had to die.
He was lying about that right? Because otherwise whole game imo doesn't make any sense.
Also fuck ZTD for robbing Sigma and Phi of their roles. Not gonna comment on Cunny&Jumpy.
>>502114990
>>502115208
based fellow sigmachads
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>>502116863
I don't understand why this was even in the game
The layout of the facility never really mattered, so why are we forced to watch like 30 seconds of map every time we switch rooms?
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>>502080104
You think that's bad?
Delta is my favorite character in the series
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>>502117481
It was immersive at first and I thought it would lead to some huge twist but it was just padding
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he based?
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>>502117847
I liked how there was nothing redeeming about him, he was a asshole and liked it
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>>502114818
>those are the brainlets hating on VLR
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>>502117165
>Killing millions.. to save BILLIONS
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>>502116219
>get the trilogy on Steam
>plow through 999 and VLR and have a fantastic time
>eagerly boot up ZTD
>Junpei is an edgelord
Never dropped a game so fucking fast holy shit,
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>>502118378
Just play it. He's not that bad mostly funny as the game goes on
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>>502118378
Finish ZTD, it's fun

Not the way you expected it to be
But still fun
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>>502118378
Keep playing because ZTD brings us the 2 most absolute madmen to ever absolute madmen Eric and Carlos. It's almost worth playing for them alone even if everything else is shit
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>>502118378
Personally the thing I hated most about ZTD was the change from VN-style dialogue to cutscenes. I read fast and generally skip lines halfway through. Making me sit through them, especially to show off their shitty shoestring budget """"animation"""" was unbearable. I watched it on Youtube at 2x speed.
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>>502094402
>That instant Stockholm when he thought she was letting him off was amazing
This man, that shit was fantastic.
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>>502118378
>playing 999 on anything but DS
lmao you get what you deserve
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>>502118378
The only way to really play it and sort of enjoy it is to think of it as some kind of wacky spinoff instead of an actual serious sequel to VLR. It sucks but thems the breaks.
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>>502114657
>>502114542
God that always bothered me. Everyone dogpiled you when you won but meanwhile Dio or the others just walk out with no one caring.
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>>502118378
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
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is he a simp?
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>>502119538
For sure, but in the end he got married so it went well
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>>502119016
Eric was so hilariously irrelevant, does that team actually do anything besides unleash Radical-6?
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>>502111263
I made sure to get the three bad endings first even though it wasn't really intentional. Sub was an easy third ending.
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>>502119618
What are the odds Mira kills him before they die naturally?
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>>502120125
Heh they are quite high when i think about it
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>>502120125
She's in jail so slim for a couple decades at least
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Kanny is kawaii!
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>>502116314
I came to really hate how the game just wouldn't let Sigma be a dick and leave when most other characters got to do it. Wouldn't have even changed the overall plot, but if the game is going to let me be mustache twirling evil on a Bad End why not commit?
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Junpei > Sigma
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>That Prisoner's Dilemma bit in ZTD
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>>502119985
Q and Sean also Mira kills off D team and gets 2/3 of C team by killing Junpei.
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>>502120296
Sean broke her out and made them use the alien fax machine to stop the snake from ever happening.
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>>502119538
Yes but he's also based so it evens out
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>>502104871
Imagine playing a game in a language you don't understand
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>>502120498
Alright, literally who in the fucking world predicted Carlos SHIFTing as the third choice? It was so funny.
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>>502120498
>The dice game in ZTD
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>>502121237
*snail
Fuck.
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>>502121410
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>>502121279
Based?
Based on what?
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>>502121237
Shit I forgot about that



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