JRPG Thread. What are you playing during quarantine time? I just finished FF12 and loved it. I just need to defeat the superbosses and do the rare game monsters now
>>500981780The problem with this game is that the new artworks are great but they aren't in the game. There's no cool art like this one. So I guess it's just a bait they use to make us buy this game?
>>500981780oh and by the way outfits don't change with classes. So it basically is false ad.
Is there post game or does it end after the final boss?
>>500982529no post game. you have to do everything before killing vayn
>>500981980>>500982413Making illustrations for a video game is not an ad and it isn't bait. Were you born in 2005?
I like it more than BoF1 so far but god damn they made the random encounter rate even higher!!
Recommend me a good JRPG that you think deserves more recognition. Emulatable or on steam.
>>500984143Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
>>500981780I'm replaying Cold Steel 4. Don't know what I should play next, Vesperia or Ys IX.
What's with all the FFXII threads lately? Did it go on sale or get a remaster or something?
Breath of fire 3.Best rpg ever
>>500986719Yes it’s on sale and people are shilling it. Happens will all the sales.
>>500986719It hasn't seen a sale in a long while and it has been a very underlooked FF people have been willing to try out
>>500981780Been playing pic related while "working" from home. It's slowly creeping into my top 3 Final Fantasies the more I play it.
>>500984143Star Ocean 2 is fantastic
>>500986896The game barely looks like an FF game. It’s more like a Western RPG.
>>500987091Agreed. Star ocean 2 is great.Valkyrie profileShadow hearts 2
>>500986931I never understood how people can stomach playing gba/gb games. Maybe I'm just traumatized by just how fucking poor and barebones some of the games where when I used to have one.
>>500986931In terms of gameplay it is godlike.
>>500981780Holy shit I am playing through it and it’s perfect, wtf /v/ you told me it’s a shit game
>>500986931That said, I've literally never seen ANY RPG where the protagonists have such shit luck with their vehicles/modes of transport>ditches boko right at the start>pirate ship gets fucked by a whirlpool and left in a ship graveyard>abandon flying dragon after sinking part of a fucking continent>get another boat which ALSO gets fucked by a whirlpool
>>500985382he said good>>500986719Switch sale
I'm currently playing FF4, Octopath Traveller and I might startr XBC2
>>500987091Second Story this. I'd even advise to play without a guide and then if you really enjoyed it to go back and try the other storylines - you can only have 8 characters out of 12 total, and the game has a bunch of optional endings and interactions based on who you have and what you do with them.
>>500987313Emulators make them tolerable. If you have a PSP, Vita, 3DS, you can enjoy these games as handhelds while receiving quality of life improvements such as savestates and speedup.PC is viable as well, but misses out on the portability factor. To each his own. Playing on original hardware was only tolerated during its time because we did not have anything better. Don't let that stop you from enjoying the finest titles that came out on those platforms.
I wish Square Enix would grow a pair and take a risk reviving one of their old rpg series. How insane would it be if they announced a Vagrant Story remake/sequel
>>500987438Don't ever believe /v/ when they say something is shit
>>500987091>>500987697Why the hell are there so many retards that think SO2 is underrated?
Playing FFXII since it went on sale. I like the game but I hate desert areas aesthetically. Is the entire game deserts?
>>500987796It's just the kingdom of Dalmasca and the sandsea. It's only 20% of the game at most
>>500981780I'm waiting in a dungeon queue on FFXIV.
>>500987991Sweet, thanks. Just got through the sand sea and I'm getting pretty tired of seeing sand already. Nothing else about the game puts me off though and I can't really knock the game anyway for having desert areas that's just my taste.
>>500987721>Maybe I'm just traumatized by just how fucking poor and barebones some of the games where when I used to have one.That's to say, I'm used to gameboy games in general being pretty fucking barebones so I tend to look down on them. It doesn't particularly have anything to do with physically using a gameboy, and this is not something an emulator would solve. Again, it just comes from my own experience form when I was a kid.
>>500987778Because despite people saying it's great, very few people have actually played it compared to the likes of FF, Chrono Trigger, etc. You're kidding yourself if you think it's in any way popular
Got the good ending for Caligula OD last night, I'll start a ng+ later today so I can clean up the other character scenarios/social links. They were a lot more serious than I was expecting, it's a pleasant surpriseThe soundtrack is also half of what pushed me to go through the entire game, hell music is pretty integral to the settinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5KQ-BWsD7E
>>500987313Have you tried playing Dragon Quest 3 on GBC? It's such a well made port that some people consider it superior to any other version. It really is that good.
>>500987091I always liked it's demi-active combat system. I should emulate Blue Sphere sometime.
>>500987721I have a vita and a 3ds but I don't think you can upscale resolution when you emulate in those. I'd sacrifice portability to emulate on pc and have the option to enhance res.
>>500987991The landscape and aesthetic of Ivalice is a lot like the landscape and aesthetic of Vana'diel, Eorzea and the first
>>500987091Nah, it's pretty mediocre. Too many stupid crafting and skill gimmicks.
Trails in the Sky and Rune Factory 4 Special. I got my adventuring fix in the former and my farm and town roleplaying fix in the latter. Just finished Chapter 1 in Trails while I've been doing town events and grinding professions in RF.
>>500981780What is it on sale on? Steam? I hear the best version is on switch cuz it has some added features, is that one on sale?
>>500988597You mean, like every other JRPG? Also, they are mostly avoidable if you don't want to bother.
>>500987750But they are? Trials of Mana remake is out in 2 weeks.
>>500987091Didn't this get a modern re-release on vita? Is it any good?
>>500987313Final Fantasy Adventure was pretty great for a gameboy action RPG.
>>500981780CS3 then FF7R then Trials of Mana then Sakura Wars then Xenoblade Chronicles DE. As for what to play after I finish CS3 before FF7R, still undecided.Quarantine over here is till the release of Trials of Mana but I expect them to extend it again so who knows.
>>500988578I think it has the same art director for FF14.
>>500988947You mean 4 weeks.
I’m playing through DQV and Radiant Historia right now. Shit’s pretty great.
>>500989162as if you will play all these long jrpgs one after another
>>500989085It has both positives and negatives imo. It improves the technical aspects, fixing some bugs and exploits, and most notably being widescreen, but the game moved closer to feeling more weeb, with a godawful anime intro, voiced character dialogue and character portraits/expressions. Overall probably a net positive, but it depends on what you like. I can't stand the weebiness of the Tales Of games and the changes make it feel less old-school 90s anime than it did.For example, heres the original introhttps://youtu.be/lCNkYQeREBsAnd heres the remake introhttps://youtu.be/X-HRaBA463c
I liked Berseria and I think I'm more into Action JRPGs rather than turn based ones, which game should I play next, Vesperia? or go for a different series? will probably play Trials of Mana at launch
>>500989740forgot to say I also played the 3 ./hack games that are on steam
>>500989687I'm not allowed to leave my house unless it's for shopping and work is suspended due to Corona, what makes you think I won't?I'll probably have to start working again once Trials of Mana hits but I'll continue the quest.
>>500988806Sure, you can avoid them, but then you're left with a mindless X-mashing fest of a battle system and boring scifi isekai plot from the 90s. Not much of an improvement in the overall experience if you ask me. This game's super overrated.
>>500989740Depends. What systems do you have?
>>500989964Only PC, Emulators are fine too I guess
>>500989731>but the game moved closer to feeling more weebI'm not a braindead shitposter and I don't judge games based on their degree of "weeb", I just judge them for how good they are as video games. Maybe I should have made that clear.
How was Oreshika: Tained Bloodlines on Vita?
>>500990081Then you'll enjoy the rerelease. The games the same otherwise and performs better, it just brought in a few elements that had me rolling my eyes when it came to the presentation.
>>500990073I recommend trying out Ys, Dragon’s Dogma, and Star Ocean.
>>500981780XII makes me nostalgic for Ivalice which makes me nostalgic for FFT then I get sad because there isn't anymore FFT games.
>>500990405I just want another high fidelity game in ivalice. The world just feels great. I'll always be disappointed we never got that ivalice mmo
>>500990081Thinking about it, I more meant "Moe" than "weeb"
>>500990509I want to see more of post-cataclysm/medieval Ivalice
>>500990334Barring the questionable character art, it pretty much looks like a normal PS1 game - complete with goofy Resident Evil-tier prerendered CG backgrounds to boot.
>>500988423Playing this RN, yeah the OST is lit and the battle system is pretty fun, not digging any of the 'Musicians' characters though I think they're designed to be like that.There is like multiple endings in the game I think since you can fight for both sides?
>>500990694Yeah it's mostly the same except for the average character art and sometimes painful voice acting. Ironically, Claude the MC has the worst acting of them all. There were side characters that sounded better. I just found those changes distracting - one of those things where I'd prefer to just read the text. It's forgivable.
>>500990894Yeah the game will offer you a chance to join the musicians, it just lets you run their character links while going through the game, you don't really pick a side until before the last dungeon. The Musicians needed this so bad since they're not very entertaining otherwiseAnd as far as I know there are 2 Good ends (only a minor tweak makes the difference between em) and the Musicians Bad End
Got these on sale during Christmas. Which JRPG should I play first?>Ys Origin>Last Remnant>Resonance of Fate>FF Type-0>FF8
>>500981780I'm playing through Skies of Arcadia right now. I wish the combat speed wasn't so slow, and I really don't like how common random encounters are when flying around looking for discoveries. Other than that though I'm having a lot of fun.
>>500988947But that remake isnt exactly on par man power/budget wise as osmething like the FF7 remake. I'm talking they take a shot in the dark with something thats not kingdom hearts, final fantasy or dragon quest
>>500991350Resonance of Fate, The Last Remnant and Ys Origins are the two best games in that list. Both RoF and TLR are atypical turn-based games. They are both extremely deep and obtuse, but RoF does things better and has a better cast and story on top of being extremely stylish. TLR will kick your ass but it gets extremely good later on when you have more options. Ys is Ys, it's always a good time.
>>500987091This games soundtrack has an amazing ethereal quality to it. Something about the reverbhttps://youtu.be/iQH7hcliu68
>>500991350TLR and RoF are both great, start with whichever seems more interesting to you.
>>500991824Are you saying games only count when they are of the production size of FF7R or FF15? The latter of these sucked major ass by the way.
>>500991643I played the original Dreamcast version, really great game.Now that you posted it, gonna look for a GC emulator to try that one.
>>500991643That's one of my main issues with jrpgs in general. A lot of the best jrpgs are burried in the sands of time and even though emulation exists, it's just not the same and it sometimes feels very much like you're playing a game from 40 years ago.
>>500990167Bretty gud if you like dungeon crawlers.>>500991350Probably Ys Origin, TLR is the meatiest game in your list by far so if you want to play that first and play it for real expect to spend hundreds of hours on it.
>>500991350Ys Origin then TLR and RoF
>>500991824I generally prefer my games finished on release rather than to release the rest of the game many years down the line or in FFXV's case canceled until further notice.
>>500993301I'm going to wait on 7R to see just how big this first game is. If it's not a "full game" worth of content, then I'll het it on sale or wait until the whole thing is done years from now. I can wait
>>500991824Bigger budget doesn't mean better game. I rather a great mid-tier game than FF15.
>>500981780I've been having fun with FF13. I really like its combat system compared to FFXV
>>500993512It's been pretty much confirmed and generally accepted that the first episode will be some 40 hours long because of things they added to it. If you ask me it will never be a full game, no matter how long it is it is still episode 1 of more. But there's no denying 40 hours is "full game worth of content".
>>500981780I've never played a single FF game beside XIV for more than an hour and I don't know which one to start. I was thinking VI because the bosses I fought in the omega raids were really cool.
I'm thirsting so much for a new modern JRPG. I long for BD2 and Secret of Mana, and I hated Octopath Traveler which is mainly pixelshit and lousy plot. Last good JRPG was DQXI, and nothing since that. I've tried playing FFXV yesterday and I was almost puking at how bad it is.
>>500994338I always recommend FF10 as a good starting point. It has a good balance of classic FF gameplay while still being modern enough where it doesn't feel super dated. Especially the enhanced editions.
>>500987796You have a world map. You should check it out.
>>500994476I feel like if you hated octopath you aren't going to like BD2. Did you only hate octopath because of the artstyle?
>>500994515Eh there's something about 10 that always disinterested me
>>500994786If it's the general aesthetic and designs, I can understand that.
>>500994649I loved BD1 and BS, but I hated how hollow and static the Octopath's plot was. I mean latter BD1 was an absolute clusterfuck, but even like that it was a way better game than one with like 8 episodic plots with no interconnection
What should I play next? >Final Fantasy IX >Persona 5>FF: Tactics
>>500994224That seems acceptable to me. I'll likely wait for it to be on sale at the very least.
>>500995281Always Tactics, then play it again with one of the difficulty patches
What should I play next?>FF12 Zodiac Age>Valkyria Chronicles 1>Xenoblade Chronicles 2
>>500995281none of these
>>500995281All good options. Persona 5 is different aesthetically from most jrpgs so maybe that if you've been playing mostly traditionally themed ones
>>500982529The final dungeon is a point of no return. You'll return to the last save after you finish it, so be careful. After you finish the game, you'll unlock some new game+. I'm sure one is the low level challenge, and can't remember if there's another one.
>>500995346I tried playing tactics psp on my vita but the resolution was so bad it was actually making it difficult to read the blurry text. During cutscenes it was not difficult it was impossible. Where would you recommend to play tactics?
>>500995409XC2 if you are going to be picking up XC1 DE in May, otherwise FF12
>>500991643Playing this on Dolphin at 4x Resolution with speed toggle is actually the way to do it - highly recommended.
>>500995670What speed toggle?
>>500995545Emulate it, honestly. Just put whatever scanline filter on the PS1 version that you like. You can also get the corrected translation patch for it. Best way to play it now, honestly.
>>500995835Under hotkey settings in the bottom right you can bind a button to Disable Emulation Speed Limit.
>>500994338If you liked FFXIV then FFXII is the closest in aesthetics and story. Pretty much because most of the FFXII team is working on it
>turn based survival horror, an excellent marriage>cast doesn't consist of teenagers or goofy anthropomorphic novelty characters>no "power of friendship" bullshit, characters constantly argue and talk over each other like real people>main characters have individual goals, desires and flaws, also like real people>nice backgrounds and animations>delicious cheesy 90s playstation voice acting>realistic western influenced character design, minimal anime shit>dark themes and subject matter, nice gore, unique enemy design>that scene where edward shoots that thief in the fucking facevery enjoyable game but why did it have to be four disks?
>>500995621Well I guess I don't have an option, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is crashing and I already redownloaded it like 2 times.
>>500996221The parallels are so striking that they really do outweigh the similarities that 11 has with 14
>>500986931The GBA version is really fucking good, the SNES version was a little too unbalanced for me
>>500996513I remember watching a live letter years ago where the lead writer said Matsuno was his single biggest influence on his career and Yoshida agreed. FFXIV is basically Ivalice fanfiction since its reboot.
>>500996394Sacnoth weren't exactly at the top of their game when it came to programming and shit, moreover there's a massive amount of barely compressed voiced lines in Koudelka, which take a huge amount of space, same for the music, Kikuta probably wanted high quality audio and didn't compromise on that.
>Square Enix sale on Switch>The Last Remnant isn't includedI don't even care if they fucked with it, it's the principle of the matter.
>>500996394this looks pretty good, gonna give it a shot
>>500996812>want to pick up ff12>would rather have it switch physical>not on sale anywhere but on the eshopFucking sucks.
>>500995670>>500996101I'll try this since I'm already playing on dolphin, thanks
>>500995281FF IX and Tactics are both great go play either one first then the otherPersona 5 was kinda shit, play 4 or 3 first if you haven't yet>>500995409XII Zodiac Age first then Valkyria Chronicles then Xenoblade Chronicles 2All 3 are worth playing but XC2 is clearly the least good of the bunch
>>500989217FF14 has Ivalice as an actual part of its world
>>500981780>beat ff9>cheat to get excalibur 2>lose all interest in getting max levelI think I will reinstall X and come back to this one later, excited to play XII as that's one I haven't played yet.
What are some decent /tg/ board game style jrpgs? Already played Unlimited Saga. I wanna give Crimson Shroud a spin. Wasn't there another board game jrpg on the 3DS as well?
>>500997718>Wasn't there another board game jrpg on the 3DS as well?You must mean Culdcept: ReVolt.Yeah, it's a great tabletop RPG series, I warmly recommend it.
I've tried to narrow down my backlog to the games I want to play in the near future:Ys VI, Xanadu Next, Code Vein, Tales series, Trials of Mana, Berwick Saga, Vestaria Saga, Langrisser remake, Sakura Taisen, Rondo of Swords, Stella Glow, God Wars, Ar Tonelico 2, Caligula Effect, Blue Reflection, Dragon Star Varnir, Death End RequestStill seems kinda long but I have some spare time now. What should I play after I finish Ys VI?
FFXII fucking sucks. The only reason why people recommend it here is because they don’t like JRPGs. And FFXII is a Western styled game. It basically is an offline mmo with a shit story and a Star Wars wannabe universe.
Probably gonna replay the whole lot of Front Mission. Also need to find a translated Iso of 2, because thats the one I never played
>>500998596If you liked Y's and are wanting more, I'd recommend Xanadu Next. I feel like it's a criminally underrated game.
>>500998692>And FFXII is a Western styled gameIt has nothing western styled whatsoever.
Lookin cool Joker!On Shido's palace. Fun game.
>>500998596You should play Ar Tonelico 2.
>>500984143SaGa: Scarlet Grace. Probably the best JRPG combat system.
So I just got into JRPG's around a year or two ago. So far Ive played DQ 11, 3, 4 and 5Persona 3 4 and 5Y's 8 and Tales of VesperiaWanted to try a FF game since they were on sale on the switch eshop but Im not sure which one to get. Or should I just play chrono trigger since everyone says its the best Jrpg ever.
>>500998745Actually I'm trying to do the opposite: avoid playing similar games too close to eachother. Ideally I'd alternate between action / tactics grid / simple menu, alternate between cute animu girl games and more serious stuff, etc.
>>500999094As much as I like Scarlet, I prefer the combo based format of the previous games in terms of combat.Scarlet's timeline system also isn't a good idea for certain kinds of battle, it shines when you're dealing with even numbers on both side, but when it's a single boss against a party it kind of crumbles in terms of balance, which is a problem previous games didn't have.That said, it definitely is a lot better than the average RPG combat in general.
>>500999094Seconding this. It's all the more impressive that they developed it with almost no budget.
>>500999182I don't really think there's a best FF to start with, a lot of people tend to start with 7 so you could just play that
>>500999182The only great remaster/port on the Switch is FFXII if that helps
>>500999872It sucks. It’s not an FF. plus the artworks they use as a bait are not in the game.
Is the FF12 release on the Switch anything special? I played FF12 TZA in the Christmas break in 2017, and it absolutely blew my mind with how insanely fun it was. However, I didn't do much post game content, which I heard is some of the best in the franchise.Do I need to play it again on Switch and enjoy the postgame stuff?
>>500999681>>500999872is the port of IX not good? a friend of mine is telling me 9 is the best but my heart is telling me X for some reason.
>>501000248It’s the same shit with downgraded graphics and a higher price.
>>501000248The Switch version has extra quality of life stuff added but no new actual story content, I don't think
>>500999597I'm more impressed about the game as a whole rather just the combat system.Enemy variety isn't that great due to the nonexistent budget, and some battles fall a bit short in terms of hype due to that, but fuck me if they didn't put in a shitload of content and a greatly written world and cast, truly shows how all the money in the world won't make a game good if your dev team is clueless and doesn't have any ambition.
>>501000423>>501000448I might go in on the PC version actually. To show how much "postgame" I did, I looked at my trophies, and I did "Trickster" and "Carrot"
>>501000248Switch has the abillity to reset your jobs, so you're not stuck with the jobs you chose at the start and also gambit sets you can switch in the menu instead of having to change your gambits every time. They're good additions but not "buy it again" addition. Switch version is mostly worth it for playing it on the go, which is good for RPGs like these.PC version has 60fps, potential difficulty mods and access to weak mode/strong mode from the start (weak mode= you can't level up at all, strong mode = you begin at level 90)
>>500991643if you're still around, save your berries for aika, teach her lambda burst and just kill all random encounters for the first half of the game instantly
>>501000423>downgraded graphicsIt might not be as sharp as the PS4/PC version, but considering the original was one of the best looking titles on the PS2, the Switch version looks fine.
>>500987091Download a savegame for SO2 so you can play on a higher difficulty level off the bat instead of unlocking it.
How can I spice up a new playthrough of this?
>>501001302Make everyone a Machinist and go hunting.
>>501001302This is going to be challenging for sure.
>>501000359It's hard to look at. The upscaled stuff is blurry, battles are running at 15FPS, they removed full directional control for 8-way control. It is a downgrade from the original PS1 game just like every PS1 "remaster". It's better to play it emulated on PS1
>>500989731>>500990598>ImplyingStar Ocean was always a little weebish, its just the genre change over the years.
>>5010003599 wouldn't be a bad one to start with. I think you're better off playing the PS1 games on an emulator like Mednafen where the game won't look too clean like the newer ports do, but that's just me being a faggot.
>>501001302Excalibur Knight Ashe, Shikari Penello and actually keep Balthier as a Machinist.
>>500981780Just torrented Cold Steel 3 and just like first "game" it seems like boredoom linear snoozefest with barely any gameplay, exploration. freedom and 90% cutscenes.
>>500990509They just released some gacha abortion resembling Tactics. I don't know if it's set in Ivalice though.
>>501002071Don't play Kiseki if you want gameplay and freedom of exploration or progression.
>>501002319It's not an Ivalice game. It's set in the same world as the previous Brave Exivus (or whatever it's called) story. They just retooled the Gacha to be a srpg.
>>501001610>>501001656Sorry, I forgot this thread wasn't solely for XII.
>>500981780Finishing up Xenoblade Chronicles 2:Torna, getting further into DQ11S and FF12:TZA. I may try to finish the Mana Collection before Trials comes out, and maybe pick P4G back up since I stopped around Naoto's arc.
>>501003606Okay well assuming you have zodiac age you can always do a new game minus playthrough.
>>500981780Playing FF2 on my phone for the first time.Gonna hit up FF3 and then DQ4.Trying to go through the DQ/FF series and play FF7 for the first time before FF7Re comes out
I'm playing:Asdivine dios (someone told me to give it a go, it's a generic, terrible jrpg so far but I'm gonna give it like 2 hours before I just uninstall)Chrono Trigger (never finished it now seems like an apt time, world ending and all)Legend of Dragoon (playtesting a mod a friend of mine made, mostly just balance changes right now, but there's a new boss as well, it's only like an hour long I'm just running it once a day to check for typos and bugs)and looking for something a bit meatier to play after CT is done. asdivine on the shitter, CT on my pc, then legend of dragoon in the evening is how it currently goes.Maybe I'll start up the hyperdimension neptunia games, I hear they're all pretty short and okay.
>>500996429That fucking sucks
>>500999182If you're playing on Switch, you have two optionsIf you want to get a taste of pre FF7 games, play IX first and then VIIOtherwise, just play them in order
>>500996394>game is set in Wales>game is dubbed by AmericansThank fuck the days when Americans used to dub everything is finally over.
Is AR Tonelico emulatable? I beat AR no surge and now I kind of want to play the the rest of the series
>>501004542Wait, what? How the fuck have I never known there's a JRPG set in my country? Definitely checking it out now
>>500984143If you can emulate or crack a gamecube, try Baten Kaitos. Made by the same guys from Xenogears and Xenoblade.
>>501003926>on my phone
I'm at the part where you get ashe in the party, so far I have vaan - shikari, balthier - machinist, fran- archer, penelo- black mage. What job should I assign to ashe (I have the switch version btw).
>>501005571You can make her a good Knight or Foebreaker. Just don't mix her with a white mage because there would be a lot of overlap
Recommend me some JRPGS with good battle systems.
>>501005716I have basche as a knight already, does the game let you hame multiple characters having the same job
>>501005857I like xenogears, probably the best example of JRPG+ combat.resonance of fate is good. If you like strategy, highly recommend last remnant (pirate on pc, all the other versions are absolute shit and don't let people tell you otherwise), lost odyssey is probably cream of the crop.Of course there's the nintendo rpgs, paper mario, super mario rpg, m&l games.The south park games aren't horrible if you're into the humor. They're very easy though.
>>501005967Yes you can but it"s better to try all the jobs
>>501005857Chrono Trigger.I jest, of course.
I just recently started Xenoblade Chronicles 2, which I'm really enjoying, but I rarely get a chance to play it as my girlfriend is glued to Animal Crossing
>>501005857TWEWY (DS) has the best gameplay of any JRPG I've played.I've heard various opinions on the ports, but the most positive have been 'they're not that bad'
>>501005857Shadow HeartsSaGa gamesBreath of FireLegend Of LegaiaVagrant Story(if you wanna spend lots of times in menu)Rogue Galaxy
>Can preload Xenoblade DE now. 2 months before release. >Can’t preload FF7 Remake until 2 days before release, when PSN will be throttled. Fucking why.
>>501005857TWEWYRadiant HistoriaMost SMT gamesThe Bravely gamesKH1FM and KH2FMDragon’s DogmaSaGaEtrian Odyssey Lost Odyssey FFX and FFX-2
>>501005571I am going to have all my males as magic casters and all my females as exclusive non-magic jobs (except for Panelo, who I set as white mage), and there is nothing you can do to stop me!
>>501006373>bought a second switch for the GF>only have 1 TV set up and we're moving soonIn the same boat but at least I'm able to play mine on the couch as we swap the TV every so often
>>501006570Wait, you still can't preload FF7R? I was planning on getting the digital copy today so as to have enough time to download that shit before release on these throttled servers.
>>501005857Can't go wrong with the SaGa games.
>>501006538Is legend of legaia any good?
>>501006779Of course, just don't drop the game if you are getting filtered by one boss.
>>501006720Nope. I’m hoping my physical copy will deliver early thanks to UPS MyChoice upgrading the package to Ground when it ships.The question is how much it’ll be throttled. Gotta start it up immediately the two days prior.
>>501006493I loved the original version of TWEWY but I just can’t get into the ports. It just isn’t the same as dual-screens and it really shows in the enemy and boss fights. Plus, you miss out on cool shit like this.
>>500982529In classic JRPG tradition, there's tons of optional stuff you can do while Bahamut hovers near Rabanastre. But yeah, once you actually go to the Bahamut, you can't go back (but there's no save points there, just the Zodiac Age auto saves).
>>501006764Which saga is this? I assume it's a remake of some kind.
>>501005048The PS2 games emulate very well. Qoga isn't really playable yet to my knowledge.Make sure you get the retranslation patch for AT2.
>>501007009Well, it's 100 GB so they would have to throttle it into oblivion for people not to finish the download within 2 days. Even 1 MB/s will finish it.
>>501006630>Radiant Historia >TWEWY>Etrian Odyssey >Lost Odyssey My man
>>501001302Try a solo playthrough. You only use one character, and never pick jobs for anyone else. But I think a few bosses (notably Yiazmat) will be impossible.If you want to be super hardcore, no summons either.
>>500987438Everything /v/ says is shit is 99% of the time a really great game they don't want to admit it's great due to fanboyism.
Why does /v/ claim to hate JRPGs when there’s multiple threads like this and others that show them being loved on here?
>>501008083Vocal minority of bozos.
>>501008083Usually one or two wrpg autismos that won't shut the fuck up
>>501008083You get gacha threads that reach 400+ repliesThere'll always be people who like what others (like myself) deem unredeemable shit.
>>501008370>implying JRPGs are as bad as gacha
>>501007370Isn't there also a rebalance patch? Should I use that or just go with the vanilla experience the first time around?
What am I in for, /v/?
Has FF12 always had the option to adjust battle speed or is that a zodiac age thing?
>>500981780started playing EO3, currently punching Meregho Saeno repeatedly to get a few levels.I also managed to get to Tortuga Island and found out the hard way that I am not supposed to be there yet.
>>501008974That is a new feature.
>>501008974It's been an option since the International version. Ever FF remaster/re-release includes the option.
>>501008918One of the best games on the DS. Make sure to get TWEWY, Knights in the Nightmare, and Strange Journey if you don’t have those already.
>>500997913Switch entry, when?
>>501008437It's an extreme example but I think it serves the point.>>501008918The way the story is pushed forward is very cool. The battle system is fairly unique (goat loli is very strong), but I found the story fairly standard outside of the MC's origins and relations.
>>500984143Dragon Quest V
>>501009415DQV is huge in Japan. That it doesn't get more recognition in the US is just symptomatic of the series in general barely getting any.
>>501008918>fun combat>interesting and well-developed characters>great spritework>fun time travel mechanic >great music by Yoko fucking ShimmomuraIt’s a treat, anon. Enjoy it.
>>501009415The only Dragon Quest game that gets jerked off harder is VIII and that's very debateable
>>501008612>rebalance patchEither I'm not aware of it or it's the same thing, so I wouldn't really know.
>>501009704It doesn't help that it's not available in any decent platform from this age.
>>500987991I would kill for a proper Ivallice MMO.
>>501010339MMO is always the same, you can have a lot of fun when you're new but then you reach endgame and the game becomes soul crushingly boring as you wait several months for patches that never add more than a couple days worth of content.
>>501010094Yea but it's already had a PS2 (admittedly Jap only), DS and mobile release. Until they decide to do a PC release, it's still plenty available.
Is the phone port of DQ3 any good? I don't have a Switch to play it on yet.
>>501010784Naturally yeah it's available, just not in any decent platform from this age. Mobile is not decent.How is the ps2 version by the way? Compared to DS.
>>501011043Fuck no emulate the snes version. Trust me
>>501011141I like the ps2 version alot its soul incarnate
>>501011554But do you know how does it compare to the DS version specifically? Is the DS version built from the ps2 version? I'll do some research later when I'm done playing zodiac age.
Just started playing Legends of Cold Steel
>>501009141>strange journeywhy would he do that? He should get redux
>>501010581And that's why you unsub and play other games in the interim. Regardless, I just want to wander around cool XII tier locales as a Bangaa monk or something.
>>501009250Ask OmiyaSoft, not me.I can only hope we get a new one, Culdcept is great and I'd give a kidney if that meant we could go back to the Dreamcast days.Since there has been a lot of surprise comebacks lately I hope Culdcept will be one of them, I already got SaGa back on rails, if I can get Culdcept, Metal Max and a couple of other franchises back for at least another decade I won't have any regrets.
>>501011908>And that's why you unsub and play other games in the interim.The problem is that you can't do the good content that matters with randoms because randoms are absolutely abysmal, so you need to be in a group. If you're in a group you can't just unsub whenever you want to unless you quit the group so either you spend your entire life joining and quitting groups every few months, don't unsub or suffer playing with random ass clowns who may all have the combined IQ of 0.2
>>500981780I'm on the final chapter of my Zero no Kiseki replay. Currently going through the hospital dungeon. Rixia is kind of making it a cakewalk thanks to Exploding Talisman.
>>500984143Mega Man Battle Network 2-6 (everyone says 4 and 5 are bad, and honestly they do have their flaws, but I would say BN1 is the only that's straight up skippable)
>>500981780Some Xenoblade X while I cry for not owning a Switch to play 2 and DE
>>501008918hows the 3ds port?
>>501012129We do have Metal Max games still, albeit of lower budget.
>>501012802If it makes you feel any better I have a switch but I'm not playing 2 cuz I can't buy the game right now.
>>501013049>Xeno>GoodMM has never been high budget, but it used to be good.
>>501012175Well in XIV's case I'm pretty solidly midcore, so I'm perfectly happy clearing stuff once or twice on release then fucking around with secondary content/dalies/roulette. I really could not give less of a shit about progging savage with poopsocking autismos.
>>501013247Hey man I never said Xeno was good, just that it proves Metal Max still exists. Supposedly Xeno 2 will fix the issues the first one had, but we'll see.
Waiting for the pc english version of revenge of justice and thinking of what kemco game will hold me over in the meantime.
I just started playing X a few days ago, and I have to say that Tidus is way different than I had thought initially. From an outside perspective he just looks like a generic bishie boy, but really he's this weird semi-feral idiot and kind of endearing. Go figure.
>>501013527>with poopsocking autismos.That's because you're a shitposter anon. You don't need to be any of that to progress content, but I suspect you are aware, you just like to shitpost regardless.Anyway, you just need to be better than absolutely terrible and play with other people who are better than absolutely terrible so you don' wipe 50 times because the same guy fucked up 50 times. The only issue is that random players are mostly absolutely terrible so you end up having to play with a group. You can be a lottery player and play only with randoms, you'll clear things sooner or later but it's mostly blind luck if you'll actually get people who can play the game.
>>501014256He grows on you I think. That said there's a lot of meme power behind the HAW HAW HAW meme
>>500981780replaying Genius of Sappheiros on switch >>501005857Genius of Sappheiros
>>501014256Tidus is a good lad. I was expecting myself to hate his ass at first but he really starts to grow and mature.
>>501012802Do those squad missions ever change if the timer never goes down
>>501013527you don't need to poopsock, you just need to be with a group of people that understand how to learn and use their rotations under pressure
>>501015459Nope, but you can manually change them whenever you want
Which should i play first? >Bravely Default>Dragon Quest VIII (3DS)>Blue Dragon>Ys VIII
>>501015540I will diminish and use pejorative terms towards people who are better than me because it brings me peace of mind and makes me more comfortable about that fact. Deal with it.
Conquest, and holy shit, ninja rape cave was not a meme. It's horrible.
I'm not one to shitpost about sub vs dub but does anyone feel like the original Japanese voices in FF12 are kinda bad? Vaan's specifically.
Finished FFXhd and while it was much shorter and easier than i remembered the world and its music are top tier even if the game is the most braindead easy entry in the franchise.Now playing X-2 for the first time since release and its ...alright. I loved it at the time but now you can really tell Toriyama took over when the waifu models are more detailed/slutty with way more facial tech but the ui is trash and there is so much copy pasting assett reuse which is ironic since he would go on to vastly overproduce assetts for FFXIII that would lead to Chrono Crusade and Valkyrie Profile 3 being scrapped and reverse engineering into XIII-2 and Lightning Returns respectively.
>>501014582I think you're missing the point. It doesn't affect me because I generally don't give a shit about endlessly running whatever's on the cutting edge of endgame, be it with a static or with randoms. And because I'm not shackled to a bunch of other people all trying to run the gear treadmill I don't feel any need to keep playing if I'd rather be doing something else. I'm honestly a little baffled at your inability to grasp this concept.
>>501013247Wasn't Xeno handled by some random devs? Because 4 was pretty good.
>>500989740If you enjoyed Berseria, you would like Xillia 1+2
>>501017120I'm honestly a little baffled at your inability to understand I quoted a specific point of your shitpost and specifically referred to it.
>>501017128Same devs, they eventually admitted they had no idea what they were doing though.Xeno was basically them trying some random shit to gauge reception and see what they should do with the franchise after so long.But frankly, they did the same fanservice shtick with 4 so I don't get what they were trying to do with Xeno at all, at least there's not as many DLCs as 4 but Xeno is absolutely terrible when it comes to anything but fanservice for older fans while 4 was a really solid MM game with also much more solid fanservice.
>>501017572>says that endgame prog requires a large commitment unless you're content with randoms of wildly differing quality>I agree, so I personally don't bother with it and just do something else with my time>this somehow makes me a shitposterOk dude.
>>501019098>I will, for the second time in a row, ignore the actual line that was directly quoted from my post and specifically addressed>I will be disingenuous in writing the gist of what I had previously posted by eliminating the shitposting aspect of it, and then make a point about how there's no shitposting aspect to itHow do you not feel bad doing this sort of thing? Know some shame anon.
>>501020498So either you're just stringing me along, or you really are this cranky that I referred to tedious prog grind as "autismo poopsocking", in which case grow a thicker skin you literal infant.
>>501005280I mean, it's a lot more convenient than sitting down at my laptop and starting up a PS1 emulator to play Origins.Granted, the iOS versions of FF1 and 2 have nothing on the iOS versions of DQ1-3
>>501015706blue dragon is the one out of those that shows it's age the most. dq8 is also better played on ps2, emulate it if you have to, you lose so much for some barebones content additions.
Really burned out from gaming recently want to play something similar to games I really enjoyed.Persona 3-5DQ11Please recommend something similar to these games, I'd prefer it to look great too like P5 and DQ11. Tired of 2d jrpgs unless their really great like Dq5 or radiant historia. Did try ff12 but combat felt mmo tier
Kino moment. I'm really loving this game ecept for one small problem WHY WOULD YOU MAKE THE DASH BUTTON THE CONFIRM/GRAB BUTTON? SHIT IS ANNOYING.
>>501022990It’s 2D but TWEWY is fucking amazing. It also still looks pretty good for a DS game.
>>501023545Sadly I don't have a DS anon, I've always wanted to try this game
>>501022993Been that way since the first.Also you finished the best game in the series (besides xf). 4/5 are terrible trash fires and I highly recommend you avoid them.
>>501022990Play Digimon Story Cybersleuth and it's prequel.Combat is SMT/Persona-like, follows young adults in Tokyo, has the character designer from Devil Survivor/Durarara, and the OST is amazing because it was done by the killer7/God Hand/No More Heroes/Danganronpa composer. It's also a 3D game with decent visuals, and you don't have to have cared about Digimon before to play it as it's a completely original story.
What are the most essential 3DS RPGs?
>>501022990Radiata stories on ps2 is one of the better jrpgs out there, never really gets love either.
>>501024135Ah, I gotcha. I assumed that since you mentioned RH and DQ5 that you had a DS thought that might’ve been emulation.
>>501024236all of the SMT games on the platform, except for 4A
>>501022990Maybe Caligula Overdose or Trails of Cold Steel? DQ XI is a very classic game and it's pretty hard to find something similar to it these days. Also FFX if you enjoy turn-based.
>>501022990Tales of Vesperia.
>>500981780Not sure if I should continue ff12, xenogears or start ff9. I've kind of forgotten where I was in xenogears story wise and got filtered by the garbage camera+platforming and ff12 was alright I guess but apparently ff9 is the best ff I haven't played. Someone tell me what to do.
>>501024215Should have added Cyber sluts up there too since I fucking loved it aswell. Hackers memory was great too>>501024275Seems interesting will check it out>>501024954Mainly said DQ 11 because it's a beautiful turn based game with nice effects, I wish devs would make more great looking 3D turn based games it's a shame FF is taking a more action approach now. Caligula overdose seems interesting thanks while the last trails game I played was very boring so I don't want to play that
>>501025285You dont seem that enthused about FFXII so try IX and if you dont like it go back to XII
At the Shinra lab in VII do I go through the back door or main entrance for getting Aeris back from Hojo and Red XIII?
>>501025598I really wanted to like 12, I got to the point where I was in the desert looking for a tomb or something but yeah it didn't exactly click with me. I'm just worried about starting another new game because I'm currently half way into okami (and have lost a lot of interest), 6 or so hours into xenogears, 5 hours into bioshock and playing animal crossing. I haven't really clicked with any games since I finished dragon quest 11 and I'm worried ff9 will end up another incomplete project.
>>501026583I see you're in the same state as me anon. Maybe you're just burnt out and need a break
>>501026583You should try finishing a game instead of moving on to a new one, you ADHD fuckup.
What JRPG should I get for my ps4?
>>501027541rogue galaxy or star ocean 3 if you want something 'classic'. Else your options are pretty limited. I guess some atelier shit.
I kind of wanted to get into Wild Arms, are they good games?
>>501027541Try Resonance of Fate if you want something challenging that you want to invest time into
>>501028497I love them so much, except maybe 4. 1-3 are amazing, 4 and 5 are okay/decent.
>>501028497I played only the first 2.First game is great but didn't like 2 because it threw everything about the worldbuilding 1 did into the trash and made it some own shit.
>>501021789>iOS versionsYikes. Download a GBA emulator for the FF ports.
>>501025786Aeris prefers the back door.
>>501027541Death End ReQuest.
>>501029015Is there a major difference in content for the GBA versions?I have the NES version of 3, the SNES version of 4 and 5 and the GBA version of 6 on my 2DS.but my understandinf of the iOS versions of 1 and 2 is that they're from Dawn of Souls
>>501027541There's hundreds of them on PS4. Which genre do you prefer and what do you want from the game?
Been playing FF13 for the first time, around 7 hours in.The pacing of this game is all sorts of whack, how long am I going to have to wait before Fang and Snow join the main party?
>>501030863JRPGs get divided into genres? I am kinda repulsed by the idea of >>501027723 playing something that old when there should be better modern alternatives seems wrong.I have done Persona 5 which I quite enjoyed, so I guess something along those lines. Maybe medieval fantasy magic setting.
I'm trying to play DQ11 but it's just not that fun. I wanted a linear open world like DQ8, not corridor simulator like FF13
>>501031095You'll have to describe where you are more. Have you got out of the crystal lake, have Lightning and Hope got out of that lab, are Vanille and Sazh nearing a city yet?
>>501031230Well the issue is that, like with all media, JRPGs follow certain trends and fads that come and pass.If you want something medieval/high fantasy, I'd recommend DQXI. If you want something more serious in the same vein, Dragons Dogma is also quite good but more action-oriented
When is this game supposed to get fun?The combat is boring as hell, the story is also the standard cliche.This game is just not fun at all
>>501031463I'm out of Lake Bresha, but Lightning+Hope and Vanille+Sazh are still split up; I think Lighting and Hope are at "Scavenger's Trail" or something like that
Where the fuck do I buy skills in ff12? I'm just at the start and the guy in the skill shop only has 1 (ONE) skill and it's not the skill I used points to unlock anyway which is first aid.>lmao first aid sucksYeah but I want to buy it. What the fuck is wrong with this shop that has ONE fucking skill?
>>500995281>>500997206I started replaying FF IX just the other day and god damn, I forgot how utterly EASY the game is. There is literally no fucking challenge.You start thinking it's gonna be hard after Lindblum since you don't have a healer for a while but it's fucking nothing.I might quit since I need a bit of a challenge if I'm gonna play anything.
Final fantasy dimensions or chaos rings?
>>501032090I just looked it up, and it's not for a while.Lightning and Hope have to get through a big reasearch lab, and Vanille and Sazh have to finish their city sightseeing
>>500981780I've been playing the geofront patch of trails from zero and it's great. I truly enjoy seeing previous characters from sky coming back.
>>501033186Ah, ok. Thank you for looking that up.
>>501032094You have first aid from the start, you just have to unlock it on the license board. Magicks and Technicks can be bought later on but some are on chests in the overworld. You always unlock them with License points you get from defeating enemies in the overworld.
>>501032094Check in every time you do story shit or make it to a new city, shops update inventory pretty frequently.
Anon from earlier. Starting this now.
>>501033996It's an awesome game! Enjoy
Yuri is best boy
>>501012929Better in every way. Includes an extra ending which feels more complete
I have been waiting for a thread like this. Give me your opinion on the jrpgs I play currently.>Sora no Kiseki FC >Breath of Fire IV (the PC version)>Ar Tonelico and Nosurge>Dot Hack Part 1 - Infection>Dragon Quest VIII and V>Evergrace Also this is the best battle theme ever, prove me wronghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGKmRfwvLH8protip: you literally can'tPS: Do you guys play DRPGs?
>>501026943Yeah I’m burnt out and this feeling sucks, it’s been since kh3 disappointed the fuck out of me. I haven’t REALLY enjoyed a game after that and it just feels terrible not enjoying something I can clearly see is a good game.>>501027094lol two types of people on here. I do have adhd though but playing a game I don’t enjoy just makes me even more depressed
>>501035194I've barely started and already I can tell Matsuno really wanted this to be an Ivalice game.
>>500981780Where do i start with the SaGa series?
Hmm, I really feel like replaying Xenogears but I also don’t wanna burn myself out before Xenoblade DE drops next month.
>>501036374 it just feels terrible not enjoying something I can clearly see is a good game.Yea I get you anon, with more time to play die to quarantine, I keep trying new games and none have kept my interest. Just today I tried Fallout nw, Pathologic 2 and Atom, I can tell their good but none clicked. At least I always have from soft games and DotA to rely on. That said I'm going to try caligula effect another anon suggested tomorrow.>Kh3 disappointed meI can see why, I personally got it for the BBS trio since BBS was a childhood game of mine. Was happy to see Terra back
>>501035741Dot Hack Infection is comfy but I can't really remember it that well to give my opinion on its mechanicsDQVIII and V are both god-tier, as is III and IV.
>>500986931FFV is super slept on
what's the recomended version of Tactics Ogre? iirc I heard some negative things about the gameplay changes to the PSP version
>>501037745>with more time to play die to quarantine,Sounds like an awful game.
>>501038434Whatever the boomers are saying, Tactics Ogre PSP is a better version than SNES in so many ways that you have to be a massive moron to recommend SNES over it. TO SNES is a great game, but PSP is one of the finest remakes to exist
>>501039062>TO SNES is a great game, but PSP is one of the finest remakes to existThaaaat's pushing it. TO PSP put in a ton of stupid shit that it didn't need to.
>>501037286If you want to play a SaGa game you can somewhat understand, has enough tutorials to guide you, and has one of the best battle systems in recent memory: SaGa Scarlet GraceDo you want absolute freedom hell with a god-tier soundtrack with the pleasure of just roaming around and finding stuff as you go, not afraid of doing new game+ several times: Romancing SaGa 2 and 3Do you want a massively ambitious game that has been kneecapped but still stands as an excellent game that meets freedom and excellent combat in a fantasy/SF setting: SaGa FrontierYou are a true patrician, Japanese RPGs have been mastered by you, your brain has expanded beyond belief, you understand true quality where you can see it despite everyone telling you otherwise: Unlimited SaGa
I'm playing Chrono Trigger now while I wait for FFX to download, I only vaguely remember watching my brother playing it. Seems very easy so far I just made it to the End of Time.Frog was the best but disco robot is kinda cool I guess.
>>501039531You are in for an absolute treat if you stick with it
>>501012319Is that the Geofront build? How's it looking?
>>501039702I always hear good things about it, liking it so far.
>>500981780Been playing SMT Digital Devil Saga. It's pretty good so far
>>501039961It's good. You can probably ignore most of the shitposting about it having a meme translation. It's really not that bad in context.
>>501039531You're playing my first ranked game while downloading my second best.You're in for a good show.
>>501040583god i hate the emo joshua portraits in crossbell
Since this is a JRPG thread, I have to ask:Valkyrie Profile on the PS1 or on the PSP? Which version is superior? Is the PSP version an enhanced version the way War of the Lions is?
What makes a good jrpg? im working on my own and it's pretty boring and gay
>>501041223Exploration. Hide a million things over a big world map and you got yourself a dedicated fanbase.
>>501041345like how dark souls people autistically try to piece together lore?
>>500981780I finished SMT Nocturne Hard last week. Id had it for about 10 years and finally got around to finishing it. Got the True Demon Ending too.
>>501041035PS1 is superior. The PSP version adds some 3D cutscenes that clash with the existing art and it actually lacks some quality of life changes made to menu navigation in the North American PS1 version because it's based on the JP version. The PSP version is totally serviceable if that's what's convenient for you, but ideally you'll play the NA PS1 version or hell even the mobile version over it.
I feel like there's a bunch of things I'm overlooking but I don't really know where to start, so give me the names bros. Already played stuff like SMT, Persona, EO, FF, Xenoblades, FE, TWEWY, Historia, Bravely, Tales, hack., Octo, Chrono, Mana, Phantasy, Digimon and some others I can't name atm. Didn't really like DQ and Ys and I thought the new Digimon (cyber on) were disappointing.Classics all welcome. Turn-baseds with some nice difficulty would be swell.
>>501041521If you have already played that many you should know what left is out there. I would say Wild Arms but you most likely played it already.
>>501041507Thank you so much. That's exactly what I needed to know. The PS1 version it is then.
>>501041768You're welcome, dude. Have fun.
>>501040584X is my favorite FF and one of my favorite games, maybe it's nostalgia since it was the first big game I remember beating aside from Pokemon. I tend to replay it once a year, sometimes I grind out the sphere grid sometimes I just play it normal.
>>501037286The PS2 games are both really complex, the most complex in the series, so unless you feel like you can deal with some serious amounts of mechanical autism it's best to leave them for later.Anything else TLR included is more or less fine outside of SNES RS1 (too rough and archaic by now, best to leave it for later when you're experienced and can appreciate it in its historical context) and maybe SaGa 3 (A SaGa only in name, only game where Kawazu wasn't involved, play the DS remake), keep in mind that SaGa's not a series for everyone and it's made by a bunch of madmen who can and will try a bunch of weird stuff for every single entry.I'd say play the recent RS2 and RS3 remasters to get in the loop, a lot of newcomers started with these two, Scarlet is an amazing game but again, not for everyone so you might love it or hate it unless you really fall in love in with the series, the first Frontier is also a common entry point for the series.
>>501035741Sky FC is comfy, but I remember being worried before picking it up I wouldn't enjoy it. Unfounded worry, I played it to the end of that trilogy and loved it all. Looking back though it's kinda cute how simple it was in terms of mechanics.Dothack I remember fondly, but I preferred the G.U. games over the original 4, just my opinion.
>>501040583Cool, when I get back to replaying the Crossbell duology I'll give it a good look. I lost patience waiting and just went through both zero and ao with the other translations, didn't really have a problem but it was a little jank.
Aside from Vagrant Story and Legend of Dragoon, what are some good JRPGs that require timed button presses in combat?I heard Indivisible has that, but the game looks like shit, so I don't want to play that.
>>501043491Shadow heartsMario rpgs
>>501043491Shadow Hearts seriesUnlimited SaGaMario RPG seriesTLR, kind of, you only have small QTEs for critical rolls.
>>501043491Indivisible isn't really what you're looking for but Valkyrie Profile sort of fits.
>>501043491Mother 3 if you're good at keeping time with beats.
I still never played Star Ocean 5. Should I bother? I actually liked 4 but 2 is my favorite
>>501044041not him but i honestly hate this game's take on timed button combat
I just started playing Tactics Ogre: LUCT.Is this shit intended to be this hardcore or am I supposed to grind? I'm only on the third fight where I've got actual control and I'm fighting a horde of undead with high ground which can kill some of my units with two ranged attacks. Exorcism costs so fucking much mana.
I'm strangely glad that quarantine has somehow brought us together
What are your top five JRPGs, for me, it’s these>TWEWY>Radiant Historia >Chrono Trigger>Dragon’s Dogma (if that counts)>Devil Survivor Overclocked
>>501045702No, Nybbeth's fight in the first chapter is one of the only remotely difficult fights in the game.Don't waste time exorcising either, zerg rush Nybbeth ASAP since he can just summon reinforcements non stop with no limits, don't fall for the ruse.
>>500988264After the Sandseas, you'll be done with the desert except for returning to Rabanastre. The closest area in climate will be the Phon Coast, which is beaches and dunes.
>>501046610FF7DQ5 Trails in the SkyTWEWYYs Origin
>>501041708I don't know anon, I still feel like I'm missing some obscure rough diamonds from the DS/PSP era or something along those lines.Also haven't actually played that one despite hearing about it so many times. What's good about it? I think I just need an extra push at this point.
>>501047428Play The Dark Spire.
Tales of Berseria, Zestiria or Vesperia? Which one bros?
>>5010466101)Genius of Sappheiros2)SaGa Frontier3)Etrian Odyssey 34)Final Fantasy 55)Ar Tonelico
>>501047981berseria if coomervesperia if you like traps zestiria if you like vanilla porn
>>501047981Either Vesperia or Berseria. Don’t bother with Zestiria, for the love of god.
>>501046610>TWEWY>NieR Automata>FF7>Tales of Symphonia>FF6
>>501048650Nigga that ain’t an option
>>501046610Ys Oath in FelghanaStella GlowYs 8Devil Survivor 2SMT 4
>>501046610Nocturne, TWEWY, EO5, EO3 and DDS
>>501046610>Valkyrie Profile>Tactics Ogre>Final Fantasy Tactics>Final Fantasy XII>Front Mission 2
>>501046610Xenoblade 1/XPersona 3SRW VDDS 2FFX
>>501047652Actually started that one some time before this covid mess as a commute pastime. I'm still at the start and I think I'll enjoy it at some point but I can't say I know what the hell I'm doing right now.
>>501024236Bravely DefaultRadiant Historia: PCSMT Redux
>>501035741https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHeuR_bC9GM*blocks your path*
>>501046610Bravely DefaultTWEWYRadiant HistoriaChrono TriggerGolden Sun
>>500999094>>501000504Looks cool but>that price
>>501046610>Lunar SSSC>Final Fantasy VII>Breath of Fire 3>Legend of Dragoon>Dragon Quest V
>>501043491Ar tonelico 2
>>500981780I am replaying Souls series, but people will say that's not JRPG. But hell, they say the same about FFXIII too, so...With this flu going around and business shutting, I still have to go to work every day. There is not much to do, but we still work like nothing happened. I might take Switch with me tomorrow ("busy" Sunday) and finally start Romancing SaGa 3.Also, why the fuck is save file from Bravely Default 2 backed up on N servers? I don't think any Switch demo supports save data backup.
>>501052367Really? They could've easily charged $40-50 for it. In fact most fans geared they would have. It was surprising they priced it as low as they did.
>>500987091basedthe final secret dungeon was pure jrpg kino
bros before thread 404s what the best PS1 emulator now, i haven't emulated a PSX game in the last 10 years, i would like to revisit some jrpgsi just need something that works
>>501055419mednafen or retroarchretroarch even has crt shaders for the "authentic" experience
>>501055631i tried retroarch and i got a headache trying to configure it, ill try the other one now
>>501046610>TWEWY>XB2>FFXII>DQIX>Romancing SaGa2I don't think anything will ever be able to top TWEWY for me. Partially because TWEWY is amazing, but also because I played it as an angsty teen myself so it hit me at just the right time in just the right way
>>501045702I actually just started this tonighthow many maps to do you have to play before the tutorials end and you get full control?
>>500995409Please don't play XC2. I'm pleading for your sake. It's so so so bad.
>>501056451I thought you guys loved it.
>>501056656it's just a discord pretending it is good around here
>>501056451go shitpost somewhere else
>>500985382Recommending Breath of Fire is a sign that someone is desperately hungry for more generic JRPG 'experiences', even if they have to trawl through shit, after already playing everything popular.
>>501056656/v/ does, it's a handful of shitposters that wants people to think /v/ hates it
>>501057085you're saying this about Dragon Quarter? DRAGON QUARTER???
>Play Octopath Traveler for the very first time>That build up before the boss where the character's theme transitions to the actual boss themeThis is the sickest shit
>>501043491Gladius has golf swing meters IIRC
>>501008083Nobody is claiming that people who love JRPGs don't exist. But people who are specifically obsessed with JRPGs for their gameplay are typically mentally incomplete people who are satisfied with superficial things that just dress the dullest and most repetitive aspects of themselves up with meaningless complexity. It's one thing to occasionally enjoy some game of the genre, while recognizing how fundamentally flawed the core gameplay loop of these things is compared to other games with more substance, but people who play tons of JRPGs, and actually believe that the genre is specifically 'intellectual' compared to action adventures, shooters, sports titles, fighting games and strategy games are just ignorant or delusional.There is so much typically wrong with them it's difficult to even begin. The lack of movement/positioning, the practically unlimited resources meaning that you never need to plan ahead to endure specific sequences, the horrible field encounters that serve no purpose but to let you grind them unless they wipe your party out outright, the goal of almost every fight then being to just hit the enemies with the attack that does as much damage as possible as long as you can spare enough turns to heal etc. everything conspires to make it as braindead as possible while satisfying mostly due to allowing you to progress through bigger attacks.
>>501059075>The lack of movement/positioningSRPGs, plus Radiant Historia allows you to move enemies around on a 3x3 grid >the horrible field encounters that serve no purpose but to let you grind them unless they wipe your party out outrightThen play some games with actually fun encounters. TWEWY, Xenoblade, SMT, Etrian, etc, do this pretty well.>the goal of almost every fight then being to just hit the enemies with the attack that does as much damage as possible as long as you can spare enough turns to heal etcThat’s like complaining that action games just have you beating the shit out of things. What the fuck do you think you’re in for?All in all, all of your complaints come across as shallow and pedantic.
>>500981780I restarted Persona Q with the intent to finally finish it so I can move on to the second one. I've heard the second one's story doesn't have much to do with the first, but my autism dictates that I absolutely must finish the first before I can play the second.
>>500981780Just finished this too actually. Don't think I'll have time to bite into the postgame though, which is a huge shame because it seems like that is where most of the difficulty lies.Apart from that Trials of Mana is coming out and I quite liked the demo but I'm considering playing Secret of Mana first since I've never touched the Mana series at all.
Is the DS radiant historia better than the 3DS version? Never played it before.
Is P5 Royal going to be worth it for someone who has already played the original THREE times? (Normal mode, New game plus and Merciless)I enjoyed every playthrough but I don't want to get scammed for 5 hours of extra content. Are the new additions as good as P3 FES's?
>>501059504I do not at all deny that you can find many exceptions that fix specific issues, but almost everything in the genre has minimal interest in constructing a coherent combat system which actively focuses on being genuinely tactical or otherwise highly skill dependent and denying the player the ability to exploit things through basic repetition. There are a billion things the games could easily do to suck less, but everything always returns back to the same old conventions because that's what people seem to be satisfied by, while any advancement is treated no differently than any other gimmick.>That’s like complaining that action games just have you beating the shit out of things. What the fuck do you think you’re in for?Not at all, as good action games reward situational awareness far more than JRPGs do, and because I also actually would want to play things with deeper levels of strategy to them, and almost all JRPGs boil down to repetitive exploits, just dressed up with fancy animation. This is not at all like what happens for a game like, for instance, Star Craft or Rocket League, where you progressively develop a deeper understanding of the game's nuances as you become more skilled and it becomes more in depth, complex adn demanding the better you get.
>>501061124All I had to hear, thanks.
>>500989914I agree with you, anon.
>>500984143Resonance of Fate, the HD version on steam is a fine way to play it
It's better to judge one specific game than an entire genre. Especially a genre that has decades of games build up.
>>501061172How incredibly pretentious
>>501060952I think that maybe>Are the new additions as good as P3 FES's? Yes, its like on level with golden but with more stuff
>>501060796It its more easy and some people dislike the new additions to the story of the 3DS version, i personally prefer the 3DS one(despite you having to grind a little on some parts), if it its your first time i suppose the 3DS one is ok
>>500981780I finished 3H Cindered Shadows, i loved it a lot
>>501062204What all DLC does the 3H add? Is all of it worth it?
>>500981780Adventures of Mana then Secret. Played Bravely Default II and Trials of Mana demo. Might play something on Switch.
>>501059075Many of my favorite games are JRPGs and I like them for the gameplay. I don't deny I have brain problems so you could be right but I don't see how you can make these generalizations about JRPGs as a "genre" when the term covers so many things. If action adventure games and strategy games are okay, why are the action adventure and strategy games classified as "JRPGs" any different?
>>500981780Is octopath worth the 30 bucks? I'm really eager to play Trials of Mana and FF7R, but those are weeks away. Would octopath hold me over?
>>501052367It's pretty damn low considering they're still charging 50 bucks for Octopath, and unlike Octopath you're getting a game that has replay value for hundreds and hundreds of hours.
>>501005137The Sequel to Baten Kaitos is considerably better than the original.
>>501062272I would say cindered shadows its worth despite it being kinda of short, it adds 7 new chapters(2 repeated maps though), the 4 wolves to the main story, 4 classes, a new place to explore on the monastery, some new paralogues and so on
I've been playing TiTS and replaying .hack//Infection. .hack is as much fun as I remember even though it's clunk and grindy as hell.TiTS is good but I wasn't prepared for how slow paced it is so I've just been playing in small bursts.
>>501062560There is no main story, rather eight smaller, independent stories. If you can handle that then you should be able to enjoy the game along with its great battle system and excellent music.
>>501022993I could never get into any Wild Arms and that bums me out.
>>501061858Dude, I actively want JRPGs to be better then they are, which I know they can be because fucking Pokemon exists, and if anything it's the JRPG fans who are too proud to admit that it has superior core gameplay systems to pretty much everything else in this genre adn refuse to take more from it. If you're about to laugh at this you're just showing that you have no idea what you're taking about. JRPGs in general do not develop deeper layers of strategy as you master them, I wish they did, but they almost always flat out do not and people are content to play them anyway. Which would be fine, but I wish people were more demanding of ambition.
>>5010241435 is not that bad.
>>500984015yeah BoF2 wanrs you to fucking throw down every other tile. BoF 3 and 4 where better. Man i fucking miss sprite art.
>finally get an airship and can go most anywhere in the game>get lost doing 50 sidequests instead of the main storyI love that stuff. Vesperia was the best in all the side content even if you could miss it. It really makes the world feel more involved.
Man, Seiken Densetsu 3 was overrated as fuck.I spent years hearing about how great it was, and after finally beating it. It's, like, below average.Bad dungeons (corridor of wind was the only one with any interactivity), no reason to explore, a ton of ideas that get thrown away quickly, bad combat, every boss is the same except with a different elemental focus. Gear is boring. Classes don't fully come online until the last dungeon of the game. The story is a train wreck.At least the art and music were great.
>>501062978You obviously just want more PvP games
>>500984143Shadow Hearts muh nigga.
>>501063023Wouldn't mind a PS4 port. I wonder why they just stopped porting the PS2 games.
>>501063171>Seiken Densetsu 3my moon rune speak is weak but aint this Secret of Mana in the west? If so was it 2 or 3 we never got?
>>501062978Pokemon may have deep gameplay mechanics but the games usually require absolutely none of that in order to progress through the main story. Add in the fact that the games get easier throughout each entry and most of the engaging gameplay content is locked behind multiplayer, which some people might not even be that into, then it’s really not that surprising that not many JRPG enthusiasts think too highly of it.
>>501063336trials of mana (except the one from 1995)
>>501062978>Dude, I actively want JRPGs to be better then they are>which I know they can be because fucking Pokemon existsOpinion discarded.
>>501063424>trials of mana>>501063171>Man, Seiken Densetsu 3 was overrated as fuck.fuck i bought the Collection of Mana on the Switch so i could finally play it.
>>501063345>then it’s really not that surprising that not many JRPG enthusiasts think too highly of itThat's the whole issue though. 'JRPG enthusiasts' are just incredibly undemanding of their gameplay, otherwise some game would exist that copies Pokemon's core systems, improved on them, and actually incorporated them properly into a larger game, which would then rightly be praised by the community, and more creative systems could develop from that. But this hasn't happened because people don't care. If they did this would have been a thing years ago.I genuinely have high hopes for FFVII:R though, as it seems the team have put genuine effort into preserving everything about ATB that was worth salvaging, while making everything else more dynamic.
>>501063171SD was never strong in the gameplay department, it's a series for a young audience which you play for the graphics and atmosphere more than anything.The best we got was Legend shifting gears a bit due to Kawazu being the producer, but even there he fucked up big time with the basic combat balance so even if you have layers upon layers of mechanics you have no reason to use them at all.
>>501064437>I genuinely have high hopes for FFVII:R though, as it seems the team have put genuine effort into preserving everything about ATB that was worth salvaging, while making everything else more dynamic.Ebin bait
>>501064437>I genuinely have high hopes for FFVII:R though, as it seems the team have put genuine effort into preserving everything about ATB that was worth salvaging, while making everything else more dynamic.Please be bait
>>500988456>It's such a well made port that some people consider it superior to any other version.That’s not counting the SNES version though.
>>501064437At least you came out when the thread is nearly dead so we don't have to deal with 200 posts of nonsense such as yours.
>>501064437>I genuinely have high hopes for FFVII:R though, as it seems the team have put genuine effort into preserving everything about ATB that was worth salvaging, while making everything else more dynamic.>claims that JRPG fans are undemanding of gameplay >is hyped for FF7R of all things
>>501064437>I genuinely have high hopes for FFVII:R thoughi have hopes that it will be one of SE's better games of this past decade. but the gameplay has way more in common with Xenoblade than FF7.
>>501064374idk if you're more invested in the series it's probably fine.>>501064471Yeah, I have a friend who's big into the series and he told me it was p much just Style over Substance.sd3 feels rushed, ultimately.
>>501064667>>501064668>>501064835>>501064937Are you guys seriously this retarded? Like, could you actually explain what makes the older ATB systems better in your mind, especially given that ? I do like how you're all deliberately avoiding the other part of my post though.>>501064959>but the gameplay has way more in common with XenobladeXenoblade was super janky and didn't have anything like the degree of party control this has. FFVII:R largely avoids the "MMO combat with random party member AI" issues which I understand you'd be concerned about.
>>500987472You get the lunar whale which makes it all up so whatever
>>501065461That's IV not V
>>501008612>>501009930It's not really a rebalance, but the Hard Mode included in the retranslation is geared to giving experienced players a challenge, and isn't really a good idea for beginners to use it for their first playthrough.
octopath or dq xi, bros.
>>501065325I wouldn't say it's rushed, at least, for Square's standards it sure doesn't feel like it, it's just that they never really cared much about mechanical depth or challenge.I'd say it's actually a big step forward coming from SD2 and its atrocious gameplay, SD3 might be piss easy but at least it isn't actively grating like SD2 is with its charging mechanics and absolutely barebones everything, they also handled the multiple MC design pretty well all things considered.
>>501065372The fact that you’re excited for what is essentially a regular ass action game with ATB gauges is the most hilarious aspect of your entire post, man. I know Pokemonfags have no taste whatsoever but this really sells it. Have fun enjoying part 1 of a full game, faggot.
>>501065372>Like, could you actually explain what makes the older ATB systems better in your mindNothing, ATB is endless trash.It's just embarassing you're excited for a tired repeat of the same basic ass action combat FF has been peddling since Type-0, even more so considering you pretend to be into mechanical depth and praise Pokemon, comedy gold really.
>>501063023No, the award of worst wild arms goes to 4.
>>501065678Octo has a better engaging battle system and ridiculous final boss. DQ11S is the better game and will get you more hours.
>>501065678Not even a question. DQXI
>>501065948So you have no argument. It's superior to the original ATB on every level, except for having less flashy summon animations all the time if you liked that sort of thing.>I know Pokemonfags have no taste whatsoeverYou're just a fucking hypocrite who wants completely undemanding shit but wants to act all haughty about it. Remake combat may possibly end up being not as good as hoped for, but from what we do know about it there's no reason to no believe it's more than capable of handily beating the gameplay it's basing itself off, particularly on harder difficulties.>>501066139>It's just embarassing you're excited for a tired repeat of the same basic ass action combat FF has been peddlingWe know that the people working it have been involved with some of the best 3D action combat there is, so it's hardly silly to actually have some hope for it, especially given it has very few outright flaws.
>>501067047>We know that the people working it have been involved with some of the best 3D action combat there isCapcom is working on FFVII:R?
>>501006158>(pirate on pc, all the other versions are absolute shit and don't let people tell you otherwise)Why?
>>501067047>You're just a fucking hypocrite who wants completely undemanding shit but wants to act all haughty about itRich considering you're doing exactly that right now.>>501067282360 has performance issues and wonkier balance while the remaster simplified a couple of mechanics.
This extremely underrated gem
>>501067181>inb4 he says KH2FM
>>501067282In the original game, Battle Rank scaling was all over the place, which the PC port fixed. The remaster fucked with the BR though and messed up AoE spells as well.
>/v/ hates FF7:R nowWeird. It did look like it solved the shittier """action""" combat from past titles by basically making it full blow ATB with irrelevant eyesugar autoattacks.
>>501067706>/v/ hates FF7:R now>/v/ is one thread
>>501067706>/v/ hates FF7:R nowWe're in a thread full of 'oldschool' JRPG fans, what do you expect.
>>501067706The closer you get to the release of a game, the more /v/ "hates" it. Don't take it too seriously.
>>501067436whats it play like?
>>501067706>>/v/ hates FF7:R nowIf it was the whole game I would be excited
>>501067047>You're just a fucking hypocrite who wants completely undemanding shit but wants to act all haughty about it.Nice projection, retard. I’m passing on FF7R because of how absolutely shitty Squeenix has been and because the demo wasn’t my cup of tea.
I don't know what's done it but glad to see rpg threads again.
>>501068025Extremely grindy bullshit, that's good anyway because it carries the charm of Sailor Moon and is actually somewhat more 'open' than a lot of JRPGs.
play live a live
>>501063242Do you need to play Koudelka first?
>>501067436I remember playing that a long long long long time ago
>>501068025Basically exactly like early Final Fantasy. Very simplistic. But the writing and graphics carry the game.
I've decided to playthrough every JRPG released on the PS1 and PS2 in the order they were released in Japan. Wish me luck bros
>>501068020But isn't ATB classic jRPG gameplay?I do get that the dumb Pokefag needed to be put in place, but I get mixed signals about who is telling him to fuck off, because the people doing so look like they should be the ones liking the remake's direction compared to other Squeenix titles.
>>501068290>Do you need to play Koudelka first?No. you'll get a little more out of the game towards the end but Shadow Hearts 1s story is 100% understandable by itself. Shadow Hearts 1 and 2 tie in more heavily and Shadow Hearts: From the New World is sorta it's own thing. If you gonna play them just know you are in for one of my favorite battle systems of all time.
>>501068498>But isn't ATB classic jRPG gameplay?only for FF
>>501068490>I've decided to playthrough every JRPG released on the PS1 and PS2 in the order they were released in Japan. Wish me luck brosGod speed you crazy fuck
>>501068325whats the games name and what system?
>>501068956Sailor Moon: Another Story for Super Famicom.
So long, farewell.
>>501069103>Sailor Moon: Another Story for Super Famicom.its on the list. i trust o need a fan translation?also we doin another thread lads? not like most of us have anything do do during the apocalypse right?