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In remembrance of what we've lost.
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>>485625789
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>>485625789
This is why I hate remasters, just one touch of modernity creates a soul vacuum that ruins the entire production.
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>>485625912
The saddest part is that this is one of the GOOD remasters.
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>>485626439
I remember my grandpa always said something like "if you arent liberal in your 20s you have no heart if you arent conservative in your 30s you have no brain". I do find liberals completely alien now, at 31.
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>>485625789
Top soulless
Bottom soul
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>>485625912
This isn't even modernity, this is just 'shit quality art'. I seriously could have drawn better in high school.
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>>485626649
This is a very old quote, your grandfather was paraphrasing someone else. What a twat, passing it of as his own wisdom
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>>485626959
Where is Jade these days? I unironically miss her.
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>>485626649
“I’m a retard that things everyone is a libturd or cuntservative “
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>>485627478
Sure anon.
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>>485627601
burgers can't think in any other manner.
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What they did to Estelle is some Last Jedi shit.
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>>485626649
Quote is hundreds years old and it still comes across as an extremely cowardly one. Get hit with reality so you just give up on everything and become a husk.
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>>485625789
The one super shitty thing about the remake is the voice acting is much worse, original Takuya didn't sound super bored when he spoke like new Takuya
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>>485625789
Literally soul versus soulless.
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>>485628661
Whoops, I uploaded part 2 first by mistake. Sorry. Here's part 1.
But whichever way you watch it, it's fucking amazing how much better art was back in the day, given how time-consuming the process was.
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>>485628221
>it still comes across as an extremely cowardly one
Don't worry anon, reality has a liberal bias. There's no way anyone can change their opinions away from liberalism. Never going to happen, nope.
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>>485629430
The quote has multiple variations. It's always cowardly. It's just some shit people say to make up for their loss of motivation.
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>>485628221
>don't reevaluate your beliefs when proven wrong
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>>485626057
Looks the same to me senpai
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>>485629512
>It's just some shit people say to make up for their loss of motivation.
Or, people are different and they think in different ways, even people of the same race.
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>>485625820
God, I miss old Lara. Not for her design, but for her personality. NuLara doesn't have any of her cocky confidence.
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>>485626202
>Mio's delicious thighs reduced to sticks
Unforgivable.
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>>485628821
that's not animation and how exactly is that better than everything made now?
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>>485627789
The new art style isn't the problem, the problem is that Estelle originally had like 40 different expressions and the remaster dropped it down to like 8.
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>>485629808
Uh, no shit. But thinking you should just change because you got older is wussy shit,
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>>485628221
so in your view being conservative is giving up on everything?
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>>485627582
google stadia
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>>485630239
you sound like a petulant naive brat
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>>485630239
It's not because you got older retard
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>>485628430
black anon here

were did this shitty we wuz meme come from?

if you want to really badly use it then keep in mind that it also applys to Caucasians who think like "we wuz anime characters n sheet"

so think of that next time you want to mock black people with this shitty we wuz meme
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>>485630269
Definitly not souless he just looks like Norisuke from part 8
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>>485626202
>no pantyshots unless it's absolutely unavoidable

When did Japan become so thin-skinned?
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>>485625789
Why are we here? Just to suffer?
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>>485630469
*smack lips*
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>>485630258
Well it sure seems like it in the context of the quote.

>Oh woe is me I had to experience life so I guess I'll just give up on everything I was and change to make things easier on me.
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>>485626202
I hate to be that guy, but what game?
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>>485625789
>muh dithering
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>>485627582
she got drunk hard during one of the game awards and shittalked keith sutherland and cdprojekt
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>>485628661
>>485628821
so this is what we used to call oekaki?
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>>485630469
*cop sirens in the background*
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>>485631000
YUNO
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>>485631001
Say what you will about the PC-98 graffix, the underlaying lineart is objectively worse.
Just look at the anatomy in >>485626202, how they've all been downgraded.
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>>485625789
These japanese PC games look cool, but are any of them worth a play?
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>>485631063
thanks
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>>485629512
Nah, it's some shit people say for handouts when they haven't made it yet and hoarding their cash when they have.
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>>485630469
God this post is perfect
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>>485625789
Why was animation so objectively better before most of /v/'s current userbase was born?
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>>485631264
Dithering makes it look much cleaner than it actually is
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>>485625789
NEVER FORGIVE
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>>485630469
Saying the blonde hair blue eyed character in an anime is a white person is the same as black people saying they built ancient Egypt, okay nigger.
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>>485631705
Probably because studios were slightly more willing to take risks on a premise that wasn't completely tried and true.
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>>485625789
damn why is the upper one so much more expressive and emotional? I didn't even play this game, and I can tell exactly what the upper version feels. Lower one is a generic anime face with some tears.
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>>485631859
Dumb newfag
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>>485631717
The cleanliness of the lineart is not what I am talking about. The Old art has shapelyness and physicality to it. The women look fuckable.
The new art in comparison is flat and uninspired. The women look like paper cutouts.
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>>485631939
Exhibit A
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>>485629512
You couldn't possibly be suggesting that a saying that means "the passion of youth is tempered by the wisdom of experience" is an excuse right

The saying exists because the changes desored by the youth are radical in intent and irresponsible in execution
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>>485632098
Autism
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>>485625789
>caring about some cuck fetish "game"
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>>485632168
>Being able to analyse the quality of something is autism
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>>485625820
is she getting fatter each game? i dont remember her looking like that on the first one.
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>>485631939
>The cleanliness of the lineart is not what I am talking about. The Old art has shapelyness and physicality to it. The women look fuckable.
>The new art in comparison is flat and uninspired. The women look like paper cutouts.
Blah blah blah... Top was generic 80-90s anime VN style and bottom is current anime VN style. Take your fucking goggles off and accept that there's nothing special about it. How do hell do you mential the physicality when bottom has has much more detail in how clothes physics work? Even the backgrounds lighting makes more sense and isn't "EVERYTHING IS BRIGHT" like the top.
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>>485632168
It's not autism.
The old artist is clearly classically trained and has seen a real woman in real life before. The new artist has never so much as drawn a still life and learned entirely from anime.
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>>485631717
That's all great art.
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>>485630469
Why you nigs are so stupid?
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>>485632259
That fact that basic anatomy was standard back then and is special now is something to be concerned about.
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its too bad the story is fucking retarded
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>>485625789
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>>485632259
How can the new art be current anime VN style when Ryou Nagi's style hasn't changed at all for the last 15 years?
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>>485632317
Complete trash.
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>>485625789
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>>485632367
yeah, but i'd rather play a FATE game than Violet Evergarden
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>>485632367
early 2000 anime has such a stiff but unique style
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Soulless thread.
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>>485632098
>coomers
have sex
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>>485631063
Great game although I felt some of the eye candy ruined the tone of certain scenes.
The ending is rushed and there is a very controversial ero scene near the end.

Still one of the best visual novels out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRNQ5IkHdlk&list=PLpzgDjI4N-cT5ZA6njJo-d2u-bUXh8ST-&index=2&t=805s
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>>485631705
Most artists back then had studied actual human anatomy and knew how to base their drawings on the reference without being constrained by it.

Artists today don't have any idea how a human physiology is structured, so when they're asked to create a 'realistic' character, they just shit out the ugliest piece of filth they conceivably can and then take a shit on the design document for good measure (examples: the latest Wolfenstein and the new Star Wars cash-in).
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>>485630469
negro
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>>485630469
>black anon
>Caucasians
Excuse me, faggot, that is not the kind of language we use around here. We refer to skin color and race in derogatory terms only to weed out easily offended undesirables. I'll let you off with a warning, but next time refer to yourself as the appropriately designated term nigger and cumskins as crackers.
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>>485632567
>very controversial ero scene near the end
What now? Do you fuck your >dead dad or something?
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>>485632098
You're just comparing old style vs new style. It's evolved bub, no art stays the same forever.
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>>485632315
Too bad the clothes anatomy doesn't make much sense for half of the first CGs, Everything is either skin tight or ignoring gravity to tightly hug their bodies. Is it hotter and preferred in this case? Sure, but don't bullshit about anatomy when stuff like clothes and hair physics aren't making much sense in the original CGs. There are plenty of things that look better from the original and I'd agree that it's a downgrade just from the style being dropped for 2018-19s generic anime style, but the kind of arguments here border on the level of autistic bias and rose tinted glasses. I mean, people aren't even taking account te fact that the outfits were modernized. I can't understand how people even compare pic related as left being better than right. Right's eyes are huge and her hair looks inferior to rights. Right still has the shit art style than could have been done by another artist... but come on.

>>485632357
It's the current unimaginative art style that a lot of VN and even some animators are using now. Each generation tends to have a certain style of how shapes are drawn by the majority. Remember how the 90s is known for sharp chins?
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>>485632123
Thus you just become a coward.
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>>485632614
>miyazaki
I can feel your pretentiousness from here
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>>485632783
That makes no sense. You're a complete retard
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>>485632767
>don't bullshit about anatomy
If you consider that bullshit then you have no earthly idea what you're talking about and you're too stupid to convince otherwise.
Good day.
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>>485632767
the chest size seems really inconsistent
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>>485632851
>can't understand basic things
>calls other people stupid
Lol,
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>>485632098
the anatomy of that still doesn't make sense because she'd have to be sitting in an awkward position thigh to be indented over her leg like that.
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Do people really think new artists don't use human references?
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>>485632919
>can't understand basic things
That's you
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>>485632783
you're a faggot
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>>485632738
wtf is that bottom left
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>>485632968
>No u
Ok, bub
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>>485632237
Behold his work
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>>485630849
so you're fucking retarded then?
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>>485632997
That's the last (You) you'll get from me, make it last
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>>485632721
Nah you pleasure your daughter.
To people here that is tame but not to people from outside this site.
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>>485630469
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>>485632738
It's all trash.
At least the bottom shit doesn't have sameface, even that's only because they're all from different artists.
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>>485630849
that's because you're making up your own context. you're missing the entire point of the quote because you're blinded by idealistic partisanship. in ten years you'll understand what a fool you were being now.
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>>485632831
>1980s Bulma looks like modern Streetwear
Fashion really is cyclical
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>>485633107
the position of that tv makes no sense
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>>485633107
You also technically fuck your other daughter earlier too.
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>>485626649
Your granpa was stupid, no joke
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>>485632994
That's Emiya Alter Extra 2.0 The Electric Boogaloo or whatever.
Every single servant has about 6 different versions now because that lets them sell extra merchandise.
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>>485632614
Artists are still studying anatomy today, you stupid fag.
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>>485628430
>adding randian shit to star wars
way to undermine the message of the original movies
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>>485632863
It's bullshit because you're purposely going to ignore the fact that their clothes either defy gravity in some small cases or are next to skin tight, even when it's a lose shirt. It shows wrinkles of the shirt being pretty long and lose, despite the general frame of it completely hugging her waist end upper chest. Then there's the weird boob clothing effect where the shirts go under their boobs like they're glued there. Another post already points out that pic related is an awkward position to keep your leg in to produce that kind of calve press effect, even for females. One of her legs has to be dislocated for it to work. Her left leg can't be in that position if the right one is in it's own. It has to be mildly dislocated by just a little.
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>>485631013
seriosuly? source?
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>>485626057
right one is better tho
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>>485632767
>Remember how the 90s is known for sharp chins?
I can tell that you're a retard who is only familiar with five shows from the 90s.
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>>485633254
It has nothing to do with maturity or intelligence. It's literally just something people say and often act on because of their financial situations. You're young, you have no money, you're struggling and need help. You're old, you have money, you worked for it, and you don't want to give it away.
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>>485633107
There's nothing wrong with fucking Yuno, the shit sex scene was the one with the random chick near the oasis while Yuno is sleeping next to you right after your wife died.
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>>485626057
I still don't understand why they needed to make her face slightly longer. What was wrong with it? It's not that it's better or worse in comparison to the old model but... who made that choice and why?
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>>485633382
Why am I not surprised
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>>485625789
Sometimes it just comes down to artistic preferences.

>ZOMBIE RAPPER IDOL
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>>485632938
Did you even look at the full CG, you fucking retard? She's sitting on a stool and turning herself to face the MC while leaning on the bench.
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>>485630753
>Will never get to play SWG with /v/ ever again
feels fucking bad man. It was right before /v/ stopped playing video games.
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>>485632738
I have never watched or read Fate, but i will be forever thankful for doujins, especially horse and futa ones.
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anyone got a quick guide on how to get the old game up and running or a download where it just werks?
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>>485633427
And yet the new CG retains the same pose but just removes the calf deformation. Definitely better anatomy.
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>>485633453
I didn't say they all had sharp chins, just that it was known. There were a good number of them that either had sharp chins or really large eyes. The point is that it was a style many artists followed during that era, some of which never dropped it to this day. The same can be said for current anime. Not all anime have it and the rate of anime being churned out results in there being too many variation to notice, but take a look at the animes/manga that have recently surfaced using the "transported into a game/magical world" story as their premise. They all tend to have a distinct style.
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>>485633531
I wouldn't say he banged that chick right after his wife died. He didn't leave his home immediately. Although it was definitely out of place especially with how much the girl egged him on to rape her...
My guess is they planned to do more with her character but instead rushed the epilogue and cut a lot of content out that would have included her.
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>>485633727
>all isekai rook same
God you're retarded
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>>485633623
Something really irks me the way modern character design is almost always "gotta fit the look into a narrow color scheme". You can use more than two or three complimentary colors, you know.
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>>485632614
so....Miyazaki likes looking at little girls?
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>>485631705
the 80s was essentially the "wild west" era of Japanination, it was starting to reach outside the country and it was more open to experimental shit, there were less rules and people are working more on creativity instead of profitability. Pandering was still in its infancy and there was room to grow, productions were an inherent risk
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>>485633827
Not them, but isekais are dogshit creatively bankrupt schlock for lonely retards who crave wish fulfillment above all else.
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>>485633623
Thr irony is that the art on the right fits the character's personality better
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>>485633642
It doesn't matter if she turned or is leaning. You're leg shouldn't normally bend like that unless your pushing it really hard to do so, to the point of near dislocation. Turning or not, the right leg can't bend like that if her left leg is already in that position, unless she's posing for a CG scene and making sure to force it in that spot, and even then...

>>485633724
Never said it was better. I'm simply pointing out how anatomy is being called out as points to fling at right when left still has its own anatomy issues.
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1997 - 2007 was the best decade in terms of anime artstyle.
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>>485633923
And that has literally nothing to do with artstyle
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>>485634003
You keep posting this like it represents the popular trends and it sure as fuck doesn't
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>>485634003
I sure remember when Front Mission artwork was the bastion of sanity amidst Squaresoft's crazy designs at the time.
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>>485625789
What bothers me about alot of japanese artists is most of them going "yep, I'm gonna learn how to draw anime in the most generic soulless looking way".
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>>485632738
Big win for coomers, no?
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>>485634117
3 was the best FM story.
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>>485634162
That's what sells. Blame the consumers.
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>>485634162
That old art was pretty generic for its time
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>>485634162
It's just a currently popular look. Anime art styles change with time.
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>>485633895
Yes.
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>>485625820
Left is not an original game model, is it? The legs look completely fucked up.
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>>485633827
>look at the most recent ones
>SO YOU MEAN ALL ISEKAI LOOK THE SAME?
nice straw-man. The other anon already posted what I was going to say about them being creatively bankrupt (especially recently) and are just being chruned out the cash in on the craze that Overlord, konosuba and whatever other one with similar plot made them "popular" right now. The ones directly trying to cash in on that craze are usually pretty lazy and filled with the most generic anime tropes to appeal to the easiest groups, on top of having artists who are trying to emulate their styles. It's a thing of quantity making itself known, not them being of quality.
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>>485632098
left is objectively better drawn
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>>485633919
In the early 1990s I got into anime.
It was all stuff from the 80s that recently got localized in America or fansubbed by groups which could be acquired at anime conventions.

My favorite anime at that time was Maison Ikkoku and Kimagure Orange Road.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7yV4o-phVQ

Sometimes I miss when anime had a smaller fanbase.
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>>485625820
Wasn't bulky Lara a direct response to people complaining that she still looked like a supermodel?
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>>485634298
left has bigger beer
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>>485625789
This is what they took from us
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>>485634210
it's like they watched k-on or something and go yep, I'm copying that.
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>>485632738
New designs are way better. Type moon is for pretentious kids, and the works are only good source material for porn.
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The main issue is the change to digital art, oversimplification, and just churning shit out as fast and as cheap as possible.
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>>485634380
but right is animay so that=automatic best
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>>485630469
you're overthinking a purposefully shallow jab at forced diversity in 2019

stop trying to look for an oceans depth in a puddle you fucking walnut
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>>485634274
It's because of the pose on that fan render, but model is from the game.
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>>485625789
The real reason for this is that AAA developers are no longer thinking 'how can we make a good game?'
They're thinking 'How can we sell out next ten games?'
In a quantity-over-quality approach, it's a smarter business-decision for AAA-studios to make mediocre games than good games because 'good' games set a standard. Notice how we're still waiting on Half Life 3?

The artists/writers are usually 100% aware that their current work sucks shit, but they're prohibited from making it better. In some cases like in the new Pokemon games, you literally have upper-management taking the initial draft and rewriting it deliberately to make it worse.
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>>485634298
The right is fine for what it is, but left is obviously superior on a technical level and is better simply for being different than generic anime.
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>>485633565
I think it just comes down to the artists in the remaster not being as skilled as the originals, despite having better technology. You can criticize the remaster all you want, and it does deserve it, but you certainly can't call it lazy. They really went all out when it came to remaking the models and textures, especially compared to stuff like the new FFVIII release. But despite being an early PS2 game, the FFX models were very expressive and capable of surprisingly subtle animations that the remaster failed to capture. While Yuna might have once had a slightly pained but determined expression in the original, it's replaced with a blank stare in the remaster. And that all comes down to skill, or the lack thereof.
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>>485634504
Ah yes. The legendary long back bitch. No ass at all.
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>>485634298
I would like right a lot more if it wasn't for the boob sockets. they look especially stupid in hat outfit
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>>485633446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBx2BTYs6h8
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>>485634653
We don't allow niggers on this website. Get lost, darkie.
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>>485633476
This is a dumb oversimplification of the quote and you're projecting your own biases onto it. If you can't even humor the saying because of a reason that multiple people now have told you is not their own then you're legitimately stupid (and stubborn, which doesn't help).
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>>485631717
y'know I really am trying to understand why so many people like this old style of animation, I get the charm but a lot of it looks really busy to me and starts to just look like all the characters don't wash their hair often and suffer from psoriasis. I like simpler lines and less busy coloring/patterns on characters.

help me
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>>485634818
I'm not whichever anon you think I am. Explain why you think that's wrong.
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>>485633107
Maybe I shouldn't have dropped it after all.
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>>485634305
You literally just described the definition of genre
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Digital art is just inherently soulless because it's too clean and sterile. That's why there's so much fucking bloom these days otherwise it'll just be flat colors.
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>>485634424
Yes, we shouldn't make our games in popular styles and leave them outdated
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VIDEO GAMES
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>>485634435
100% agree, they have severe same face syndrome and anyone who argues otherwise is just ignoring it on purpose
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>>485635079
Alright anons, which version would you?
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>>485626959
Whites unironically deserve everything they get for not patrolling their thots in the early days
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>>485625789
>muh old art is good
Contrarian cope
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>new art bad!
Go look at some popular 90's h-manga and compare it to popular h-manga now
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>>485635138
At the same time
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>>485626057
ffx: chinese edition is not a good remaster no.
in general all remasters are inferior to the source material.
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>>485634507
It's always funny to see an artist personal work and its way different than the game or movie they worked on.
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>>485635193
You have good modern art too, the comparison was to show it isn’t
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>>485628221
Its because you start getting taxed, retard, and you find out all the "free shit" isn't really free. It comes from taking 30% out of each of your paychecks.
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YUNO is hot shit garbage though. I was actually enjoying it until "true" route happened. What the actual fuck were they thinking?
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>>485633427
I don't understand why people are saying that's an awkward position for the legs, they're just crossing their legs. I'm doing it right now, calf press and everything
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>>485635220
>that guy eating a plate full of pickles
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>>485635250
You mean like Slutgirl?
A lot more artists today make both hentai and anime/manga.
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>>485631939
what really happened is that they replaced young adults by pre-teens.
If you prefer the new art, you're a pedo.
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>>485635079
yo wtf, thte two chicks from the right are straight outta a vn on tfgames. or they ripped the models from this game lmao. i got excited about an update to these wip projects for a second
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>>485635220
Even in 2011 big screen tvs weren't that expensive.
That guy is being rude to his friends by making them watch on such a small screen.

When my friends come over we watch anime on a 4k tv with a buttkicker under the couch that vibrates to low frequencies like explosions.
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>>485635398
It's the hips. It can be a little difficult to tell because they're covered up, but they're kind of fucked or at the very least in a very awkward position.
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>>485626959

>entire room women

"equality"
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>>485635079
Gib source
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>>485635267
The only acceptable response
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>>485635816
That is a monitor.
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>>485635954
>all white
And racist to boot
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>>485635381
MUH MONEY. The ultimate husk cope.
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>>485625789
If you look at a long-running series, you can literally see the soul being bled out drop by drop.
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soul...
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>>485636007
Ane Yome Quartet
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>>485636231
I could grate some cheese on those bitches
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>>485626959
that's a big HR department
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>>485636228
>those artists that still draw original tifa

dey based
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>>485625789
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>>485635568
suguhas murder is a tragedy god fucking dammit why cant the short hair cuties ever win bros
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>>485635843
I don't see it, it just looks like she's slightly slouching in the chair
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>>485636302
To be fair Ubisoft now has about 1800 people working for it.
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>>485634335
dis you see the last work the KOR author did on his series? It was some dodgy hentai.
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>>485628661
SOOOOOOOUUULLLLL
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>>485635220
is that a flimsy ass cheap ibuypower keyboard?
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>>485636604
Have you never seen the shitload of work modern artists put into their digital coloring?
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>>485634003
truth

for me, its viper ctr
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>>485633973
>I'm simply pointing out how anatomy is being called out as points to fling at right when left still has its own anatomy issues.
Are you fucking retarded? The anatomy is better in the old one, what the fuck do you think the point was?
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>>485636728
>viper
based
I fucking miss sogna
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>>485636816
>the modern jrpgs are all nearly a decade old
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>>485634083
>You keep posting this like it represents the popular trends and it sure as fuck doesn't

Every artwork in my post is from a very popular show or a very popular artist at that time and I can even pick more images from the same era that don't match your "trend".
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>>485636997
Yeah man back in the day everyone wanted to be like cowboy bebop and lain
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>>485636936
Same goes for the other one. And both the modern games shown in the other one are from the same company within the same year.
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>>485637108
You don't need to care about what casuals and moefags care if you go focusing on artistic trend and values in anime and manga.
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>>485630469
>were did this shitty we wuz meme come from?
from black people
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>>485637340
>mainstream trends that define an era don't count
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>>485634083
He's retarded and thinks that obscure artsy anime was the peak of the genre and not just popular with westerners while being largely ignored in Japan.
https://myanimelist.net/featured/1496/The_Best_Selling_Anime_from_2000-2014_Blu-ray_DVD
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>>485634298
Boob pockets on the right look horrendous, this is probably the worst case of boob pockets.
Clothes forming a tent around tits is objectively superior form of showcasing tits through clothes IN EVERY WAY PERIOD, hence why left is better.
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>>485637207
Show me actual modern JRPGs that look like bottom, and by modern I mean post 2015.
Please, at least 5.
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>>485635220
>watching anime
>with other people
>with friends
Never fucking ever.
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>>485636101
But i am not a fan i just like Fate porn.
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>>485638087
FF15, SMT4A, Bravely Second, Exist Archive, I am Setsuna, Nier Automata, XB2, Tales of Berseria, Ys 8, Alliance Alive.
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>>485634435
>>485635121
Not even a Fatefag and these posts make me fucking rage.
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>>485625789
>what we've lost
?
We haven't lost anything, those games are still there, you can play them.
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>>485639070
Takeuchi fucking sucks
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>>485639190
Nobody cares about the faces, it's about the general design. The old ones had dignity, the new ones are shit
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>>485639335
>fate stay night
>dignity
TOHSAKA'S ANUS
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>>485630793
>>485631054
>>485631575
>>485631836
>>485632294
>>485632685
>>485632703
>>485633143
>>485634497
>>485637379

Do you ever wonder if you might be a bad person?
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>>485635079
>from CUNNY to MOMMY
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>>485638320
>FF15
Is pure cringe boysband tier looking shit, nothing like DeS, SMT Nocturne etc.
>SMT4A
Barely, it still looks a lot worse than Nocturne.
> Bravely Second
Might have good art direction in the artbook, but has to resort to chibi meshes ingame.
>Exist Archive
Looks literally like the art direction presented at the top, over-saturated and bland with no clear direction.
>I am Setsuna
Has good art direction.
>Nier Automata
Has good art direction.
>XB2
Pure shit and vomit, art direction of XB1 is superior in every way.
>Tales of Berseria
Same type of absolutely garbage bland shit as XB2 and Exist Archive.
>Ys 8
Very generic.
>Alliance Alive
Has an interesting art direction especially environmental design but again chibi is not my thing.
Grand majority of JRPGs at the moment for for this weird and retarded "toss every single design decision into one blender" Kingdom Hearts looking bullshit, nomura designs on steroids without any artistic skill that nomura actually has. There is nothing deliberate or interesting about it, but most important of all it looks nothing like the anime designs at the bottom in that picture and you know it.
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>>485639124
>Just keep doing same content for ever instead of expecting people to make good things once more
I guess that is true
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>>485636231
pure soul
>>485635250
I will elaborate, new art is more likely to use crutches
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>>485639652
do you nigger?
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>>485639521
I guess?
Now they have no dignity AND shit design.
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>>485636228
>Advent Children is where it starts
Another reason to hate that movie
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>>485630469
>reddit spacing
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>>485634335
Demo get off 4chan
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>>485640027
>crutches
Oh please go actually look at pc-98 h-scenes and say that again
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>>485635816
Good to know
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>>485637459
The images I posted are still within the scope of the trend in a lager scale.
There will always be various styles and mediums like artist A or B, Shounen or Seinen, Stylized or Less-stylized, so you can't really judge a whole trend basing on on-air animes.

The fact is, some kind of artistic shift was took place in Late 90s/Early 00s and many artists who came in the scene, or those who came to stability with their style are timeless somehow, which I call "trend" of that era.
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>>485640451
>I get to define trends :^)
Really
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>>485640207
Please explain what you are implying, I am a professional artist in the gaming industry, I do both concept art and 3d modeling, I know what I am talking about.
PC-98 era games have objectively better constructed and more deliberate art, it has underlying anatomy that has been stylized and the artists who drew this sort of stuff understood both form and volume hence why they could effectively stylize it. Most of the modern VNs are in fact symbol drawn garbage full of crutches.
Compare Miura or Takehiko Inoue art to the generic anime artist of today, unless you are delusional you can not deny the difference in the skill level.
Same with PC-98 games, they are on average objectively better drawn, it is not up to debate, we can redline them to check for anatomy but even that is irrelevant because simply speaking art like pic related has a self consistent style and a deliberate direction executed by a person who knows what the fuck he is doing versus badly tracing poses and then applying symbol drawn anime details on top.
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>>485640659
>I am a professional artist in the gaming industry,
Stopped reading there
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>>485637515
>obscure artsy anime
Why are you using this in a derogatory manner if said "obscure artsy anime" is better drawn and has better plot than the "mainstream"?
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>>485640451
Source on that image?
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>>485633923
There's plenty not like that though, if you spent any time in the genre you'd know this.
There's entire subgenre for otome isekai, edge isekai with literal insane MCs, stuff like Lynn's new manga which is Isekai with no males and sex every chapter, slow life isekai which is mainly comfy SOLs like ascendance of the boomwork, and comedy isekai like Shadowing and Konosuba.
The fact you only think the most obnoxious and popular isekai like Arifureta are all isekai is, shows your lack of knowledge. Even wish fullfillment isekai can be good if written well like Mushoku Tensei, hailed as the grandfather of modern Isekai.
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>>485640049
Sad.
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>>485625789
that's disgusting. even the interface is worse than before.
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>>485635153
I cant even argue this, this man is speaking facts

God coming here makes me hate women
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>>485635759
The ST devs just use sprites from this VN artist but edit them if they have to. all the characters in that image are in ST. The 2 left characters were in the last update and seem to be in the upcoming one too.

Following past update times we wont see it until next year sometime usually earlier on in the year.
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>>485630469
black anon here
we wuz is already immortalized and unweaponized as an insult since you can use it generally to refer to any group claiming stuff as their own.
By calling attention to it and letting everyone know that you as a black person don't want other people to use it since it offends you, you're simply handing them a free card to bully your dumbass.
>inb4 uncle tom
Not an amerimutt so no slave ancestry or anything, also you're a dumbass nigga.
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>>485640768
I am trying to educate you, pic related is a sculpt i am working on currently for an Egyptian themed game, it might not be what I would love to do but I am certain that I have a bigger authority on the subject than you anon.
Objectively speaking most of modern anime and manga is drawn by bad artists, this has nothing to do with how stylized it is, Gurren Lagann being super cartoony is still drawn by people who understand the fundamentals of art very deeply and it is very apparent.
NO matter how much you deny it, modern artists are more abundant because of the tools we have available but at the same time most of us are more shit because the barrier for entry has been lowered and it is easier to churn out generic shit for lowest common denominator.
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>>485641117
Totally beleiveable and not biased at all
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>>485635079
Only the tomboyish far right got improved in the lower image
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>>485627789
is that the hyperviolence girl?
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>>485634793
Use :orig instead of :large.
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Which one?
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>>485631027
I could have sworn there was a board for this.
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>>485633973
>You're leg shouldn't normally bend like that unless your pushing it really hard to do so, to the point of near dislocation.
You're factually wrong, but okay retard.
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>>485638103
>He doesn't watch seasonal anime shit with his friends once a week
Pathetic.
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>>485625971
Tifa now looks like a soulless plastic Korean.
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Should I watch the YUNO anime?
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>>485641546
all of them except 00
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>>485641546
00>>>>>rest
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>>485642135
First 10 Episodes are godlike, but afterwards it drops hard. loved it at first, but at the end i hated that i even wasted a second on it.

you can't possibly imagine just how fucking hard this story jumps the shark. seriously, you are not ready
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>>485642131
>Tifa now looks like a soulless plastic Korean

But she was already Asian in that 14 year old movie.
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>>485642131
>tifa then
>tifa now
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>>485626202
right, right, left, left. left. left, right, right, neither, left
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>>485634424
You talking shit about my favorite ball buster?
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>>485641546
80s.
The tougher question is whether 90s or 00s more disgusting.
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>>485641223
What bias do you want you retard? Barrier of the entry into art has been objectively lowered and generating art that looks passable has become easier than ever, but this results in a weird state of art where most artists are dependent on the software they use instead of having their own internal and deliberate direction.
Simple example is use of special effects like bloom and various flares in animation which is usually pre-canned instead of made from scratch. Sure, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the fact that After effects or whatever the fuck allows you to use pre-made shit it has, but it takes away from how deliberate the combined art direction is, which in my opinion is what creates the feeling of "soul" or unified art.
Generally speaking artists of the old did not have some magic that made their art better, but the selection process for what constituted a professional artist was more thorough and difficult, like some sort of a natural selection. Of course amazing artists exist today and they also get the benefit of having good software and tools like photoshop with all the addons and wacoms and z-brush, but many just skip the "become a good artist" part and go straight for the amazing tools which turn into crutches.
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>>485626202
>>485625789
Is YUNO actually good? The anime looked like horeshit, but I'm guessing that's just a poor adaptation like the stuff in your pics?
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>>485626959
>nothing but women
>equality and diverse
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>>485642669
>modern artists don't have direction they just use software magic
Are you being fucking serious now
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>>485633565
Square Enix for some reason ever since like 2010 has been giving their women really long faces regardless if it looks good or not. Even Aqua and remaster Yuna who are canonically in their late teens have it for some reason. They kind of also did it to Terra (FF6) too in the new dissidia.
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>>485634003
fuck no. you have NO taste.
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>>485642757
The stupid shit Takuya says alone makes it good.
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>>485642757

Yes if you can stand an epilogue that is as long as the game itself.
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>>485633258
Remember when it was "/v/ - The Vidya"?
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>>485625820
Remember when female characters were actually allowed to look like women and show of some skin?
good times, I miss those times.
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>>485635381
This, college kids should literally not be allowed to vote. In fact, people who never worked a day in their lives should not be allowed to vote, period.
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>>485642669
You're 100% correct, but why on earth are you trying to have an actual discussion on /v/ of all places.
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>>485632098
The difference is basically that the volumes are not drawn with any degree of plasticity, and the shading is way worse at conveying directional light. Basically, shit artists worked on the remake. Nobody is taught proper illustration these days.
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>>485626202
that is some censorship bullshit
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>>485636163
If you ever get a job, you will understand the pain of paying 40% of your paychecks to support libtard faggots like yourself.
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>>485642869
I am 100% serious, this is a fact. Modern artists more often than not rely on crutches that the software provides, which can be very useful for saving time but takes away control from you unless you know the fundamentals.
This is an objective fact, literally an sculptor within one month of zbrush practice can usually become a better 3d "sculptor" than grand majority of people who began with Zbrush and never practices sculpting in real life. Do you understand that even things like zoom actually act as a crutch? One of the first things that Craig Mullins teaches in his courses is simply not zooming in before the detalization requires you and forces you to focus on smaller things, going from big to small and never jumping in between. Without knowledge like this you end up being uncontrollable and sterilized art robot.
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>>485626959
I refuse to believe this is real
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>>485643524
You don't honestly believe things like using a tablet or clip studio paint magically forces you into modern artstyles amd makes shit lineart look amazing
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>>485639652
Black people are some of the racist and hateful people out there
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>>485628661
>>485628821
Where is the animation
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>>485643618
I'm not a husk so I don't mind helping people, already have a job. You guys are cancer who only care about money.
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>>485643798
This is literally what is going on you dumb fuck, why can't you realize that. This is not some meme or something, go to /ic/ or talk to any artist that actually made it, eventually you as an artist are literally forced to come to terms with the fact that practice and study can be done 100% more effectively when limitations are applied
>clip studio paint
Specifically makes line art easier to produce, objectively speaking, go to any Dave Rapoza stream, he switched over to Clip studio just because of how intuitive and easier it is to produce crosshatching in it
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>>485643704
Are you under the impression that modern artists don't know what a pencil is?
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>>485630469
SO YOU WUZ SAYIN
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>>485625789
SOUL
SOULLESS
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>>485630469
hol up
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>>485634987
>what's wrong with their eyes
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>>485644109
You keep saying "objectively" like your opinions are infallible
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>>485644120
Are you trying to argue for the sake of an argument or are you trying to actually learn something?
I am not speaking in hypotheticals here, most modern artists use pencil and paper as a supplementary material with which they sometimes practice/sketch or make vintage looking art for their instagram accounts. Currently we live in a culture where often times an artist would rather fill a character with gradient then paint out the gradient by hand.
All of the tools which allow you to live your life easier and be more productive are absolutely 100% amazing but if you studied them from start instead of properly developing fundamentals you become locked down to the tool and your art becomes less deliberate, there is a whole culture of literal unlearning that artists eventually have to go through because instead of skill development going like this
>Learn form>perspective>volume>light and shadow>composition>color theory
>apply said knowledge to whatever tool
it usually goes like this
>learn tool>try to copy what you like with said tool>become good at making that specific thing with your tool>come upon an obstacle and realize that you don't know how to create said thing>unlearn dependency on tool and go through fundamental knowledge
This is not a debate, I do not care if you agree with me or not, this is a fact of modern "art industry" and you can either accept it or try researching on your own.
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>>485626202
Left wins simoky because it has more pantyshots.
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>>485644448
Because they are not opinions, an opinion can be if X is good or Y is good.
It is a fact that studying with tools that already give you the desired result through an algorithm takes away control from you which eventually results in need on an unlearning and relearning process of the fundamentals. If a modern artist actually goes in and starts practicing art fundamentals and applying it properly from day 1 he will be at a huge advantage, but that is not what is going on especially with manga/anime industry where some of the worst time cutting techniques are used to churn out content faster.
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>>485644621
You have been spending too much time in /ic/ and not actually looking at modern anime and manga styles
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>>485625789
Bottom is 100000% better what you mean
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>>485630470
He still looks like Kiefer Sutherland in The Lost Boys and that VR movie
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>>485644831
Stuff like Weathering with You looks like overproduced garbage, studios like Bones understand art of animation more and guys like Hiroyuki Imaishi are actually real artists who control their craft.
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>>485645259
>real artists
Okay what CURRENT manga artists do you think qualify to be one?
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>>485630469
>were did this shitty we wuz meme come from?
>were
Maybe you should have actually paid attention in school, Tyone.
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>''professional'' ''artist'' butthurt based japs shit out low effort art and make more money than him while he has to make shit he doesn't want to

lol

No one cares if your retarded mummy face took more effort to make. No one cares if you have a certificate. No one cares if you think the anatomy is wrong or the women were cuter when you were young, boomer.
The consumers are the only people who actually matter and they like what is on offer.
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>>485631824
I usually don't care about this "old good new bad" nonsense, but this one actually bothers me. That old outfit (boob window, elbow gloves, thigh-high stockings) is so sexy. Why such a big change? The only thing I can think of is the developers thought the outfit was too high-class for what looks like a lunch date or something.
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Asenheim version of DESIRE is the only truly good VN by that author.

- Superior Windows-port graphics.
- Superior PC-98-original music.
- MOTHERFUCKING AWESOME TRANSLATION (of the "loose" kind) made by a single translator who evidently had a hella time doin it.

Eve is somewhat worse due to variety of factors (twice-to-thrice as long with all the extra being pure padding, team of translators instead of a single one, remade graphics adhere to original too much).

The other ones aren't even worth a look. As "true to source material" translations of Yu-No and, partially, Xenon, evidence, Hiroyuki Kanno's was absolute rock bottom shit. DESIRE translation is essentially a full rewrite by a guy incomparably more talented a writer than the author was.
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>>485630469
I think it's literally from black supremacists, of course mocking how they say that they are descended from royalty or that blacks were the real innovators and whites hid the true history
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>>485646014
Because the remake is all ages so presumably many changes were made so it would stay within the rating they wanted
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>>485625789
As someone who has gone through literally hundreds of art books looking for good images to make prints out of, I will 100% absolutely say Anime artstyle in general peaked probably late 80s, early 90s.
The colouring in general on modern anime (and artwork) is just way too flat and lacks shading gradients, also there is far bigger issue with sameface. There also tends to be far more "Weight" to the characters in the older anime styles.

When going for stuff that will make decent prints, it becomes harder and harder from about 1995 onwards to find stuff that actually looks up to standard as an image on it's own.
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>>485626439
Why is it always student uprisings that embrace communism? Like it's an immature mindset that burns a sign that says free speech. Because they want the State or private companies that hold control of digital public squares to decide on what appropriate speech is. But I don't know why it's always fucking college students. I went to college and didn't develop retarded views like this.
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>what happened
maybe
>keeping this image nowadays can legally arguably be considered a crime against real kids
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>>485646102
To be specific, descended from African kings and queens. Yes, the 25th Dynasty of Egypt did have black pharaohs from modern-day Sudan, and there were other important African rulers like Mansa Musa, but their impact is greatly overinflated by said supremacists.
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>>485646460
Turns out when you learn more things you are open to new ideas even if they are pretty stupid.
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>>485633878
One on the left is modern character design as well.
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>>485634003
>>485637340
>uhhhhh modern anime bad because look at how this casual anime looks
>also here's my epic 3x3 of my based obscure taste, damn everything was better back in the days
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>>485640659
>compare to artists to "generic artists"
Gee anon
You're right, these two famous, skilled artists are definitely better than a nameless generation of "generic artists"
This is a completely worthwhile and accurate comparison you've just made, congratulations
Anyone should immediately know that you know exactly what you're talking about and are not just a butthurt fan of older artists
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>>485625789
Modern anime style doesn't work with "babes", notice how you don't have Misato or Priss babe characters in modern anime. Modern anime is aimed towards non-stylised cute. 80s Anime was also very cute oriented but did it in a more stylised semi-chibi style (Think OG Dragonball or Ghibli) which allowed a lot more variation in character designs that worked because it was far more stylised.

Modern anime has tunnel vision based around making adorable teenage girls (based heavily on the type of young teen girl that appears in idol groups) and it's perfected that, but it's been at the cost of everything else.
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>>485631705
To add on to other anon's answers, Anime as an industry has grown incredibly over these past decades. However, this meant the birth of seasonal anime, which means quantity was more important, so the number of animators/studios on a project began to increase to make things more quickly. Unfortunately this meant that quality had to suffer.
As a result we get a billion shows each season, with only two or three having any value because of exceptional directors or passionate teams.

It also doesn't help that the Senpai/Kouhai relationship is a pillar of Japanese society, because it means their Business senses move at the speed of molasses.
Imo it's why Japan hasn't been anywhere near as dominant in the electronics or even robotics industry as it was during the 80's.
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>>485639903
>>Tales of Berseria
>Same type of absolutely garbage bland shit as XB2 and Exist Archive.
Gonna put it in "jrpgs then" then because that character designer had the same fucking art style back then
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>>485646879
>more variation in character designs
You have no fucking clue what you are talking about
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>>485644120
ANON. i know some of the fads who posts at /co/ once and a while.
Most of it will say, They DON'T.
Also, Companies in the comic industry would rather hire incompetent rastering assholes like Mike Deodato Jr and Greg land who draws over images of artists and even porn Deodato draws Kamala using teen porn actresses with petite bodies, rather than hire a good artist who knows how to draw

Blizzard outsourced its entire Art Department because none of the assholes there, besides Samwize and his protegees knows how to Draw with anything, which is also one of the reasons of why Heroes of the Storm had such a good and fine art, while Shit like WoW, some of HS, memerwatch and Diablo's art looks Generic and sometimes, stolen from Pixar and Illumination Dreamworks.
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>>485647129
>western artists
The topic is japanese artists
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>tfw got conditioned and now everything pre 2005 looks bad
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>>485646801
You don't have to go for obscure shit.
Modern Saint Seiya factually looks worse than the old one, both manga and anime.
Gundam is the same, Macross is the same, Berserk is still sort of the same but he's moving at a nonexistent pace plus the new anime was horrific, even shit like Dragon Ball and Captain Tsubasa in their modern iterations were peak soulless. Sailor Moon, literally any anime that got a new version was destroyed by technology.
>>485647005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQKze2Mi1rE
Berseria wished it was a tenth as good
>>485647074
Not wrong
>take main girl
>draw taller version
>call her "mother"
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>>485631824
JUST
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>>485625789
How shit is the anime?
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>>485641546
Got to love how nothing screams early 00s more than ultra-realistic colouring on anime characters. It was a experimental time with the switch from cel to digital.
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>>485647225
Same applies to eastern artists too. Stop pushing goalposts.
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>>485647338
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>>485640659
>Compare Miura or Takehiko Inoue art to the generic anime artist of today
Miura and Inoue are artists of today, yes. And Inoue's art absolutely looks way better than it was in 90's.
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>>485647414
Watch the original by yourself
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>>485647487
You're comparing two industries in different countries with different demographics and different standards
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>>485647074
Modern Anime is absolutely way more homogenized on every level than anime in the 80s and 90s. Just look at Dragonball for example and the wide range of characters that come in all sorts of shapes and sizes and different styles, while in modern anime, everything just looks like a 13 year old girl or literal copy-paste high school guy, if they want an adult, they take the 13 year old girl, scale her up and give her bigger tits. That is why you get "Mother" characters who are supposed to be in their 30s and they look at most like a 17 year old.
It's no coincidence every notable anime babe is from the 80s and 90s. They can't even do Major from GitS in a modern anime style without making her look like a cute 16 year old.
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>>485647845
god this anime needed like 50 ep
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>>485647929
Trust me, it didn't.
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>>485633258
>le visual novels aren't video games
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>>485647845
>modern anime doesn't look like the 80's
No fucking shit
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>>485626649
>I'm a huge faggot and so is my Grandpa
Ok anon
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>>485648028
yes it did
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Modern video game characters are fine and diversified maybe you just need to take out your nostalgia googles
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>>485633565
>>485626057
>>485642951
FFX HD was outsourced. Square didn't even make it.
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>>485648115
He was calling your modern anime McAnime, just like you have McVidya and McMovies, and he's not fucking wrong.
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This was official Links Awakening art that came with the original game in Japan and some European countries.
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>>485647845
>look at *specific title* and then look at *generic strawman anime*
Don't even pretend that """"""""homogenization"""""""" didn't exist back then, percentage of shit absolutely didn't change.
But I know that you'll pull your usual cherrypicking technique and pretend that all of the shit from 80-90's never existed and only shit exists now.
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>>485648412
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>>485648412
Cool now post how that is reflected in game
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>>485647430

That looks like a Renji Murata peice. Dudes like him and Shinkiro can really make the realistic anime style work. I think computer generated 3D mixed with 2D like what Masamune does is more jarring and very indicative of its time. Though Masamune's weird ass 3D octopi grew on me.
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>>485642757
It is the highest rated game on VNDB for a reason. The anime is just another awful spinoff of it, just like the previous OVA they did (which just made shit up to get to the sex faster).

>>485646460
It's not that they are "embracing communism", they don't know that's what they're doing. He's burning that sign because SJWs hate people they want to shut up, being like "I have the right to speak freely", so now they are training all their activists to hate the concept of free speech (for anyone besides themselves), and chanting that speech is violence. Because they aren't really saying anything themselves, they just chant slogans and break stuff.
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>>485648560
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>>485639652
Nogs were pretty terrible to me so no not really
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>>485648717
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>>485625789
but the newer one is better?
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>>485648610
Yeah I was going to use Masamune but his shit is very NSFW post GitS
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>>485648579
>an snes game doesnt look like the concept art

Wow so smart anon.
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>>485647845
>Just look at Dragonball
>while in modern anime
Which modern anime
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>>485648028
it needed a Uncensored Hentai special

>>485648675
They are "Maneuver Mass" used by retards, blind by everyone, disconnected from reality thanks to High School History, Geography and Sociology teachers, and are lazy twats who doesn't want to work, be housewives or the man in the house, they want free stuff and someone doing the work for them.

its an entire Generation of people with Peter Pan Syndrome
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>>485627601
can you deny that being the case?

libtards are going around telling people "if you're a centrist then you are tacitly endorsing the rightwing". you aren't allowed to have a different opinion. either you are far left (open borders, tranny-lover) or you're a nazi satan.
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>>485625789
>>485626202
And there are still retards who will tell you that stuff like music and art can only be viewed subjectively
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>>485647338
Let's just start from the fact that most artists you chose are still active today and ignore that Toume Kei is a shit artist and a shit writer.
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>>485632191
it's literally the least cuckolded thing imaginable.

||you know that copypasta about how having a daughter is the most cucked thing ever? even that doesn't apply to this game since you fuck your daughter too||
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>>485625789
>all those finer details lost

Man, what a bunch of shit.
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>>485641546
10s in this picture
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>>485648970
That was the first wave, as in
>if you're neutral you're for the racist, sexist, homophobic status quo
Now that they fucked the whole thing up, if you complain you're a snowflake, you're even gonna hear trannies regurgitating
>can we just talk about vidya?
Learn the stages of cancer, please.
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Is it that difficult to keep one's style stable over decades?

His artstyle doesn't look much different between his late 90 works and his early 10s works.

Is that because hadn't improved very much through those years or was his old style just ahead of its time?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an_0IIRDlc4
Peak of Anime right here folks.
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>>485625789
don't mind me, just posting in this thread to save it for later to remind myself to play a lot of these old games
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>>485649253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfPzSC50JY4
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>>485649240
By and far the majority of artists change over time whether they like it or not, for a good example see JoJo's bizarre adventure
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>>485648926
You know, that anime you don't like, probably.
That's how cherrypicking works.

>>485649472
He deliberately made them less macho because it wasn't trendy anymore.
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>>485634117

Its funny because Yoshitaka Amano did the art for the first game.
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Old heroines didn't suffer from politically correct clothes and black underskirt voids.
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>>485647430
Why does that kind of anime/photoreal hybrid always end up looking like animenaized White girl regardless of who draws whom?
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I know it's in poor taste to say now, but Kyoani was the worst fucking thing that happened to Anime. Nearly every major anime series since the past decade has just been Kyoani SoL shit or everyone else trying to copy Kyoani SoL shit or doing Isekai copying Kyoani's art style just doing it shit.
Like how Gainax defined the 90s, Kyoani defined 00s, problem is Gainax 90s is still some of the best anime 30 years later.
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>>485649774
>white
Not this shit again
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>>485649774
Because it's a cartoon and you project onto it, retard.
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>>485649816
Retard casual
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>>485649816
I've only seen Gunbuster, Evangelion, and FLCL what else is Gainax good?
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>>485625820
They're both ugly.
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>>485649816
Didn't Gainax and Sunrise had a Friendly rivalry back then because both Gundam Wing and NGE aired in the same year and even fought for ratings?
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>>485641426
>Using June instead of Athena for some reason
I'm guessing the artist really liked spike-tits since she only appeared briefly for a while, took me a while to even recognize her
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>>485649816
Are you the same coomer complaining about "anime babes" being worse than in le 90's?
That should explain why you're only aware of moeshit from all the modern anime.
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>>485639652
not really, stupid nigger. lol
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>>485650110
Landwhale Woman Detected

Hey fatso, Pixelated woman isnt going to deprive you of ever getting laid, Now cut the Pringles and Diet Coke!
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>>485647430
>>485648610
>Realistic
>Eyes bigger than mouth
>Eyes that big in general
>Head that big
>Everything about the face
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>>485626202
>All the blind ass retards who don't notice that some of the left is even more retarded.
They're both poorly drawn crap. One just has the benefit of not having to reinterpret someone else's art.
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>>485626649
Either you lied and made this up, or your grandpa much like yourself, are fucking stupid. That is an old quote.
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>>485638103
It depends on the anime, shounenshit is fine, but tearjerkers like anohana sure aren't
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>>485649023
Holy shit that panel composition is bad.
Please, show me more. I need to see how bad her comics are.
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>>485627517
Few people try to pass that shit off as their own. They're just spouting communal wisdom, and dumb fucking kids with no life experience and a hero complex think the people they look up to came up with it all on their own. And then they live with that assumption until they read the quote somewhere else.
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>>485634545
>>485634658
>>485637770
>>485634380
in that game you can pick any of the 2 styles, so it's not an actual before and after
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>>485625789
JUST
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>>485651063
Her color pages are pretty good (which is probably why that anon put it on his 3x3) but her normal art is average, action sucks and plot is incoherent.
Just read "Zero", it's her one volume long series, that should tell you everything about her.
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>>485634918
doesn't surprise me coming from jewflix
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>>485630469
They are dying out and are more racist by the day thats all they have. Just know that we will survive they will die.
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>>485651063
Just look at this pinnacle of 90s art that has yet to be surpassed
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>>485632731
comparing old style vs new style. It's evolved bub,
Evolved into worst in every way
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>>485648675
It refers to the shading. Uses realistic shading instead of line work, to show the curves and features of the character. It's very 2.5d style that was popular in the early 00s
See
>>485648878
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>>485651463
I actually went and looked up a number of pages after posting and I think it's more that she is absolutely incapable of laying out a page. She doesn't understand how juxtaposed images convey ideas and just sort of randomly uses techniques other artists use with the occasional (very poor) angled perspective shot to mask that she doesn't know what to do.

AKA, she has Todd MacFarlane disease: she's a good pinup artist (actually a pretty damn great one from what I've seen) but a terrible comics artist. Her art style is strong but she chokes when she has to draw several images under a deadline and can't plan beyond a single image. It's why a couple of spreads/pages with single big panels I found actually look really good as well as color pages and covers.
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>>485625820
Right is unironically hotter
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>>485651912
Like, this spread here is actually pretty nice. All of the art here is actually good stuff. It's just arranged horrendously.
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>>485652214
>Forgot my image
whoops
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>>485650190
These were all voiced by the same actress that passed away, is probably a tribute.
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>>485652510
Right that makes more sense, my bad.
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>>485652291
Yeah my eye goes from the top to the right, but then the egg breaking machine, then the tea then the guy, needs to swap the egg and tea panels so the motion of the egg break draws you back to the hard right
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>>485635220
"I will have pickles and a can of tuna"
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>>485635436
I miss greentext shitstories
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>>485632738
what a bad bait picture
>not using shiroumasa for shirou
>lancer saber is just a IF version that would never happen in the non fgo timeline
>BB instead parvati who is actually a sakura unlike BB
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So who is the most timeless artist in the 80s/90s?

My vote goes for pic related.
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>>485653863
Literally who
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>>485632731
>evolving means becoming unable to draw anatomic details
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>>485653269
I don't even think it's that simple, the entire layout is bad and doesn't convey a sense of place (the entire point of panning over all these things). You'd need to just entirely redo the pages.
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>>485638103
loser
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>>485637515
So I guess that the amount of fat lonely otaku consuming your latest cheap otakubait is an indicator of quality? I wouldn't trust some normies to tell me what good anime is and so I sure as hell don't care what lowest common denominator Japanese paypigs consume the most.
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>>485638103
Pathetic
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>>485653970
>not knowing Inomata Mutsumi

Your power level is too low.
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>>485654342
>otakubait
You have no clue what japnese audiences like do you?
Herrs a good question which one of these are children's shows and which one are for otaku?
>precure
>aikatsu
>goblin slayer
>kimetsu no yaiba
>one piece
>prichan
>beastars
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>>485654853
Literally every series on that list with the possible exception of FMA is an otaku show.
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>>485654975
Yup you're a dumb casual alright
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>>485655042
Again, every series on that list is an otaku show you clearly have no clue what you're talking about.
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>>485626649
your grandfather was a fucking retard lmaoo
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>>485655120
How do you not even know about precure
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>>485625820
I like new Laras model because if you are climbing in ancient tombs you WILL develop some bulk, instead of those sticks on old Lara. Miss the top and shorts though. Show me those muscles.
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>>485628430
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T PUT NON WHITES IN MY VIDEO GAMES THAT'S WHITE GENOCIDE
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>>485655326
But I do know about Precure? What's your point? Precure isn't even on the list I was originally replying to.
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>>485655427
You didn't answer my question
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>>485628661
all that work for moeshit
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>>485654342
Your problem is that you deliberately cherrypick comparisons with choosing stuff you like from 90s and "otakushit" from 10s.
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>>485626959
Only ever glanced at this pic before now but:
>just as all the women they hired had to be strong in the face of a five minute interview that landed them a job some red blooded beast of a male spent years trying to get
That broke the poe's law, this is satire.
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>>485654853
>>485654975
Where the fuck did you find FMA on that list and how are all those battle shonens not children's shows
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>>485635283
Ishizu got me into dark skin girls
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>>485632327
More like milky vs titless
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>>485632938
Here we have this anon not knowing what the fuck he's talking about.
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>>485642757
The VN is but the anime and ova are a joke
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>>485626202
Why the FUCK is Kanna just Lucina now? I fucking hate nu-anime design
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>>485648269
Does more cool shit go on in this chinese cartoon? Or is this just the highlight of the entire show.
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>>485626202
Is YUNO great? I don't know much about VNs outside of Zero Escape and ace attorney. Will I like it
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>>485659228
It's porn.
Also Ace Attorney isn't VN, it's an adventure game.
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>>485626649

I'm 34 and never heard this quote until now.

Your grandpa sounds pretty cool.
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>>485659228
I just read it last month and you have to be a pretty big pervert to get the most out of it, to look past the fan service and enjoy the plot and characters. Do not play the soulless remake.

I really, really enjoyed it until the last probably 5 minutes. It is very good.
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>>485626959
Bottom is from women day celebration.
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>>485630469

Seething.
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>>485634206
No
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>>485655340
>video games is realism
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>>485644095
I need to educate you for a second because you sound very gullible.

What is the difference between giving your money to the government vs. giving it to a starving family down your street? One actually helps a poor family, the other helps a rich family. Figure out which is which and come back to me.
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>>485633008

Based Architect poster.

I dated a girl who had nice curves but was still too thin for my tastes so I systematically got her to gain weight by taking her out to eat at fast food places and never letting her work hard during sex. I would tell her to let Daddy do all the work.

She ended up gaining 40 pounds in less than a year.
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>>485631705
Bubble Economy and what the other anons said.
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>>485642413
What the fuck. I mean she looks pretty in the after but she was model tier before
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>>485630469
Another black anon here. you guys keep using that meme. I think it's funny cause I make fun of others for saying how blacks were this and that with no real historic evidence. not to mention none of them realize how shitty africa really was
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Anime style was so much better back in the day. Now its made for faggots.
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>>485651210
what is that game even called? i have seen that picture a million times now but i have no idea what the game is actually called
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>>485630469
Based blackchad
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>>485629914
>her personality
The original developers intended a confident adventurer. What we got was a cold blooded psychopath instead. Then again, nuLara is supposed to eventually become old Lara.
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>>485646261

By make prints, what do you mean?
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>>485634335
what anime is this fight from
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>>485660462
This makes 0 sense considering tax money goes to different things. I don't think you can educate anything.
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>>485659550
So that's where this pic comes from
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>>485661474
>This makes 0 sense considering tax money goes to different things
Most of the taxes atm currently go to welfare and Medicaid, two things that are redistributed by the government based on criteria. When you consider insurance rates having rose due to the government's involvement, along with several insurance companies being government mandated, you can easily see that taxing is just a money scheme to keep money going into a few's pockets. Private charities are always the best way to give out money, and the government is the worse charity of them all.
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>>485625789
Gimme the short version: where did all the detail in anime go?
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>>485626649
>tfw too smart to consider things in black or white
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>>485662608
As it so happens breaking the bank animating tiny details or mecha doesn't actually increase sales and is unfeasible to do weekly
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>>485630469
>>485639652
>can't even take a joke on the blacks behalf
You sound like a really whiny faggot.
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>>485662856
That stuff is all CGI today. Build out the models and animation and let the renderer handle the rest. The hard part is the upfront work. That doesn't excuse VNs either.
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>>485625789
>The facial expression is completely fucked on the new one

Modern anime is dogshit for faggots.
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>>485663063
If you look at the actual line art for for old eroge things have actually improved
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>>485634918
so they finally made it accurate, then
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>>485636816
im glad both exist desu
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>>485625789
>>485626202
I am a complete troglodyte in terms of art criticism.
Can someone even try to describe in 'technical' terms how these two are so different (because I see it, just don't even know how to express it).
I guess the lightning is all fucked with inconsistent shadows and some sort of disgusting colour blend making it less crisp.
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>>485625789
>miss the thread
Fuck.
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>>485635816
faggot
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>>485648878
Did any of his lewd stuff ever got animated?



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