So I worked in this game for ~14 months, left development team in June (still have contact with a few pals)Feel free to ask any question about the game. I wasn't a Final Fantasy fan before collaborating with Square so I didn't follow the project since it was announced as XIII Versus but I got a hold of some information, if you want it.To sum up, my experience with the team was one of the best I had in the business, collaborating with S-E was amazing but if I'm being honest, the last five months or so were a bit painful. So, feel free to ask anything!
What was your job?
Why didn't you mates ask for another 6 months of dev time
Did they cut content for DLC?Are you overall satisfied with how the game turned out?
>>360061371I would rather not answer this to feel safer (even tho I told you to ask me about anything lol)>>360061426The game had to be released before this year ended period. It was a contract thing and that was set in stone before development with the new director started. That's why the last months of working in the game were painful (and I could not imagine how July-October were for my mates).
Do gingers assrape you often?
>>360061758wow first reply and you've already struck out, impressive
>>360061758Damn, game could really use that dev time.
>>360061758what's your cats name?
>>360061872well he did work on ff15
why is the game so unfinishedwhy did you delay it then have two massive day one patcheswhy are you still trying to fix this broken mess of a game with so many future updates announcedwhats with all the dlcwhat the fuck was the point of kingsglaive
As someone who is an ff fan and enjoys the game, and assuming you're authentic, be real here.why the fuck does the game go batshit in the last quarter? There's good stuff there, but it feels like you guys literally cut half the game out to get to it.
>>360061246Why would you go on the internet and tell lies?
Were there any nicknames you and your team gave the characters? Like Noctis Shit Again or Pornto? >>360061246>I wasn't a Final Fantasy fan before collaborating with SquareAre you now?
where's that deus ex tie in dlc boio
tell your friends to patch fucking costlemark so i stop falling through the world and it also actually accepts that I finished the dungeon and finishes my fucking quest
>>360061615Sort of. Last year the game story got rewritten because fans kept asking to play as Gladiolus, Ignis and Prompto so they had to insert playable chapters for those characters into the narrative, but since we didn't have time to work on them, the decision to release them as downloads were made from the get go. I know that there are some game levels, scenes and options that were cut because we couldn't finish them in time. I don't know if they will be released as downloads, but I hope they will. I think the overall feeling towards how the game turned out is "we could have done more". The team literally ran out of time. There were such cool concepts and stuff that were left unfinished because we knew that they weren't going to make the release date. However, the team is pretty happy to have worked on the game and they didn't feel like they wasted their time. Now I'm sure they will continue to work on the game and improve it to match their vision. >>360061938Don't have a cat :( >>360061959The game IS unfinished. The game was delayed because the team felt like it would get destroyed by critics if released in the state it was in July and it was a last minute decision to delay it. >>360062056Most of the development time centered around the Lucis area. The later parts of the game were also supposed to have (smaller) areas for the characters to explore, but they weren't finished. >>360062254One of the main characters was called Ringo a lot by some people in the team. Guess who is it?On the FF part. It kind of was mandatory to play the classic FF while working on this game, so I grew love for them. They are neat and I wish I had played some of them earlier.
>>360063225Can they patch in the unfinished stuff?
>>360063225>because we couldn't finish them in time.Because you forced them on a story which wasn't even well planned out to begin with.
Do you know if konami is releasing the final chapter of mgsv? I really dont have a question regaring ff15
If the old Versus script done by Nojima is available do you think it could happen to find its way into the public domain?
Why didn't include gambit from 12 in it if the others characters besides Noct are not controllable?
Why were you fired
>>360063225Leak the Versus XIII original script and I'll suck you off 13 (thirteen) times to completion.
What do you personnally think about the game you worked on? Something that you would want to changed or add?
>>360063449Some of it, yeah I'm sure they can release it later as downloads or repurpose the assets. But I fear that some levels are not going to be released since they wouldn't fit with the rewritten story. >>360063493... I have to agree that the game was too ambitious for the development time available to work on it.
what was the hardest thing to do for the team, a problem that kept getting in the way but that you eventually solved?
>>360061758>I would rather not answer this to feel safer (even tho I told you to ask me about anything lol)/thread
>>360063225What does your team's thoughts on FF13? I know that a lot of Japanese people still liked it
Were Prompto, Gladio and Ignis killed by the Iron Giants?
what are you going to work on now?
Who is the Izunia Ardyn mentioned to Noctis?
inb4 this thread ends on news sitesAlso OP, did you had acess to 13 versus builds?
Why was the story pacing a mess? Chapter 13 was overloaded with important information that lacked a punch because of the huge volume of it and the cutting of scenes. Niflheim in complete chaos and the empire toppled by Daemons? We'll handle that with a few lines of exposition by Aranea. Ravus and Iedolas betrayed by Ardyn? Well, we will just throw Ravus' corpse at you as if his purpose in the plot wasnt already questionable. Seriously why is Ravus a character? Seems like Glauca stole his role or something. Lets make the fucking emperor a shitty lv 30 imp after 10 seconds of screentime. Great decision Tabata. Removing Kingsglaive was a huge mistake.
>provides no proof of working on it>retards fall for it
>>360061246Any idea what any of the planned DLC episodes will be about specifically? Also what happened to the Solheim region in the game? I heard that was where Prompto was born and it's where Nifflheim salvaged their advanced technology from an ancient civilisation.
>>360064290Almost everything said so far actually can be substantiated with previously released statements. If this guy's a troll then he's a well-researched one
>>360061246Can you get close enough again to shit on Tabata's desk?
>>360064290Does it matter if he's lying or not? If he's lying it's a bigger time waste for him than it is for us.
>>360064282I understand how you feel about everything except the Glauca part. He and Ravus are nothing alike at any point in the whole of the XV universe.
>>360061758So what the hell information can we get if we don't even know what you did on the game.
>>360061246Why was combat in this game so foreign to Tabata? Boss battles could have been the best thing ever with things like:>a warp where you have momentum after teleporting like Nyx>Grabbing on to large bosses and climbing SoTC style >Emphasis on staying in the air and teleporting to certain points instead of just doing aerial moves in the same spot constantly.Bosses were really botched in this game, the Leviathan fight felt fucking awfully boring to play.
>>360063673I don't think that type of material gets to leak, but who knows?>>360063784I don't know the whole story about Versus XIII but I heard teammates talk about some details and I also asked about some stuff, so if you want to know something maybe I can answer it.>>360063790In my opinion, the only problem with the development process is that we didn't have time and sometimes we spent development time creating stuff that wasn't part of the actual game just for promotional material. I understand that it needs to be done for the PR team, tho. Overall, I think the game turned out to be okay and I'm pretty proud to have worked on it.>>360063782I didn't get fired, my contract didn't get renewed.>>360063814I didn't solve any problem per se, but the porting to console system process got on my nerves. >>360063915They respect the game and I haven't heard anything bad about the game other than it disappointed the fans and that some of the design choices were very questionable.>>360063929At the end of the game, you say? I think it was supposed to be left open for interpretation. If I recall correctly, they weren't suppose to have any death scene or anything so I assume they are alive.>>360064030I'm at a negotiation process right now again with a former employer.>>360064086What Izunia? If you mean the Izunia from a thousand years ago, that is Noctis' ancestor.>>360064175No but we used material (assets, concept arts, etc) to work on the game.
>>360064904Specifically, I'd like to know how the arms summoning power worked plotwise in Versus XIII. In XV only those of the royal line can use it, but Ardyn has a red version which is never explained. Stella also had a red version in an early trailer. Was it linked to Etro previously?
is there something that you personally regret? Something that you wouldn't have done but were more or less forced to include or see included?besides anything of "we didn't have much time", you already stressed it enough
>>360064904How about you just start fucking giving us stuff instead of these bullshit vague answers. Stop asking and start telling.
Was anyone actually convinced that Luna was a better character than Stella?Besides Tabata, of course.
>>360065231>vague answersthe fuck are you talking about
>>360064559What purpose did Ravus serve though? After Kingsglaive I wondered did he seek the ring because he wanted to lick Niflheims ass for the time being but then use the ring to take back Tenebrae? Was he an opportunist biding his time? Nope, we saw no development in the game. Before we know it he is gone. I compared Glauca and Ravus because I assumed Ravus was the one who killed Regis in the Versus XIII storyline, hooded guy from the earlier trailers.
>>360064904Why does Cindy have no ass?Also, do you know anything about Tifa in the FF7R?
Are you a grill?
Sorry for answering late dudes, the thread is moving fast. >>360064282As I said, the focus of most of the development time ended up being the Lucis area so the later parts of the game had a lot of cut content that wasn't ready. However, as far as I know, the fact that the empire is completely in chaos once you get to it never changed. >>360064373They are about the party members and they introduce new mechanics built around them. But work on them barely started before I left. In regards to the Solheim region, we never worked on it. It wasn't cut, so I guess it didn't fit the story the game was trying to tell.
>>360061246When will XV stop engrossing all other S-E projects
>>360065162It is literally explained as to how he can do that. Do you know what his surname is?
>>360065556Answer this please >>360064617
>>360064904Can you please give us some sort of detail that you're an actual dev Jesus fucking Christ.
>>360065556Should I buy the game now or do you know if there any special edition out later? Like a GOTY edition or something that includes DLC?
>>360065798It's explained why he can do it, just not why it's red. Only other red one was Stella.
>>360061246Why did Luna feel like such an unimportant character?
>>360066017I would think it's probably nothing other than blue is good, red is evil.
>>360061246who decided to make emo-backstreet boys for the main characters???
Tell us everything you know about Versus
>>360065556Was it expected from the team for the game to be so critically mixed
>>360064904Just say what you know about the story Versus XIII.
>>360064617Talking about the Leviathan level, I remember the level design being a bit different last year and it had to be sort of redesigned because it didn't run well and the engine was having problems.>>360065162I'm probably wrong about this since I'm not that familiar to plot terms and stuff from the 13 universe but I think more than one crystal existed in the game and that each crystal had a family which acted as bodyguards. Noctis was part of the Lucis family and the heroine was part of the other family. And the game had a lot to do with death so Noctis was continously using the weapons of dead family members.>>360065182When I was told that a certain level (snowy area with Shiva statue) was going to get deleted anyway after working on it for weeks nonstop and then having to work on a bootleg version for that level.>>360065406The team had to keep a lot of things from the past projects because the former director shared details about them. I assume Ravus was one of those things that had to be kept because details about him were previously announced. However, I have to say that the story had to be partly rewritten last year (after the movie had entered full production) so that's why that character might have inconsistencies between the game and film.>>360065903I don't know about that but I would buy the game now and then buy the download content instead of waiting.>>360066315I heard that the team had to change and delete certain scenes about her because they portrayed her in a way that would have been criticized nowadays. And like what happened with everything else, it seems like her role in the story wasn't able to get fixed before release.
>>360066778>a certain level (snowy area with Shiva statue) was going to get deletedfuck
>>360066778fucking the japs giving in to the sjws
>>360066778>portrayed her in a way that would have been criticized nowadaysTHE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN
>>360066778>because they portrayed her in a way that would have been criticized nowadays.This smells so much like bait...Can you somehow prove that you actually were on the dev team?
>>360066778>muh sjwsYa blew it.
>>360063225Who the fuck decided the survival horror in chapter 13 was a good idea? What the fuck was the reason behind it?
>>360067375AHH SHIT WE RAN OUTTA TIMEthere's the reason son
>>360061246Can you please tell me the original plot for versus xiii? Only then can I peacefully let go of that "phase" TT~~TT
>>360067276Sorry. I'm currently writing a screenplay and the ellipses help me to "show" a character pondering things.
>>360067462>TT~~TT>>360067463You are off the hook then
>>360066778>they portrayed her in a way that would have been criticized nowadaysThey have shit like Cidney and Ara-Ara, who are nothing, but tits and ass. They made Luna in movie typical damsel in distress.Also, all male cast.I don`t know what can pissed sjw even more, so, SE decided delete it.
Do the 3 bros die in the end along with Noctis, or do they make it? Will Ch 15 world ever be fully explorable?
tell us something you did that you are particularly proud of
what was your favorite thing you worked on ?
>>360067462Versus was about noctis becoming the villain and killing everyone in niflheim, so stella had to kill him in the end and she cucks him with ardyn.
>>360067462My heart won't let go....
>>360067463Just write >pauses instead you fucking hack.
>>360067712I will always love this trailer the most, too bad it wasn't used in the game at all.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6At_bb1PNU
>>360067602I think luna actually slept with Noctis before she was supposed to die
>>360066778>I don't know about that but I would buy the game now and then buy the download content instead of waiting.Be a good goy, friend. ;)
>>360066778Based on how much you were paid and how many teammates you had, could you wager a guess as to how much FF15's production cost?
>>360061246All right since you cannot tell your job and since I worked at SE as well (several years ago however), in which office were you working?You should be able to answer that at least.
>>360067748>writing director notes INTO the spoken textYOU MADMAN!
>>360067935maybe he's going for that post modernist feel you know
Is SE planning to stop making their own wasted engines? It seems like it took XIII forever to get out the door (Crystal Tools which was never really used again outside the XIII trilogy) and Luminous is an outdated mess? The company could have spent more time on cutscenes, story, and world building if they hadn't insisted on making their own engine and just used something like Unreal?
>>360067858If he had a position that wasn't garbage tier (i.e. contractor / temp staff) he'd have easily access to such data really.You certainly cannot determine how much a game did cost based on your salary and the ones of your few colleagues, especially not on a project that large.
>>360061246why are you a lying faggot?I remember your tripcode you nigger.dont think people on /v/ only browse /v/.
Whose idea was it to squeeze the final three summons so late into the game? You spend an enormous amount of time with just Ramuh and Titan, then you literally dont get to use Shiva, Leviathan or Bahamut at all except against Ifrit. What was the reasoning behind that? Ifrit is an angry astral in the story who sides with Ardyn and doesnt like humans. Was this a lazy reason Tabata invented as an excuse to not make him a summon? Also was it Bahamut that Regis was speaking to in Omen? Was Bahamut referring to the plague when he said "I have seen many deaths" and Noctis when he said "now I am looking forward to one"? Did Noctis become the Immortal in this trailer, like Ardyn did millenia ago? Also was Iedolas' role in the story canned? Were there any scenes of him and the Niffs getting wrecked by daemons? Finally was there any discussion on whether Noct would react to Nyx's body in the throne room? Did they know each other?
>>360066778Is there an essential after life for Noctis and his wife that was going to be where they can be together? Kinda of pains me to see a formation of love never kindle because the rushed writing decided to kill her off extremely early.
you know how ff13 had 13-2 and lighting returnsyeah will ff15 will have shit like that to milk the game more and moreI don't have to work at SE to tell you that
Also OP don't be retarded and don't use "square" as fucking trip or use a secure tripcode.
>>360068256I hope it gets lots of DLC that connects directly to the base game. 13-2 and LR were such puny, padded out games that ruined FF13's story with a bunch of bullshit. FF15 could easily have stand alone story DLC in the 10 year time gap.
>>360066778>I'm probably wrong about this since I'm not that familiar to plot terms and stuff from the 13 universe but I think more than one crystal existed in the game and that each crystal had a family which acted as bodyguards. Noctis was part of the Lucis family and the heroine was part of the other family. And the game had a lot to do with death so Noctis was continously using the weapons of dead family members.F U C K ARGHHHH THIS PLOT HONESTLY COULD WORK ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHJDJDNDCJEICNFIJCEIJFICM
>>360064432>everything he's told us is shit we already knewwow, what an insightful leaker!
>>360068454>that ruined FF13's story>implying the story wasn't a total trainwreck from start to finish
>>360068215You can summon Shiva and Leviathan in other places.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DalhUpW171Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xti8wGeyD3E
>>360065556So in Versus XIII it was already planned that when Noctis got to Niflheim, it was already overrun with daemons ?The idea is not bad, stealing from Noctis the chance for revenge, it's just that it was so rushed in FFXV..
>>360068204You remember his tripcode simply because it's "square" and it'll turn to !d5MtIWNzik on any Futaba based board.Now please answer my question >>360067881.If you worked at SE, even without giving away your position you should be able to answer simple questions from a former employee. There are tons of small details that only employees would be able to answer. (And it can be meaningless thing, doesn't have to be a sensitive information).
1, Was Tabata a poor director? My impression of him is that he lacks a vision and just does what online forums and his superiors tell him to.2, In broad strokes, how was the story changed from Versus to XV?3, Why does the game look sort of bad? Was it the engine limitations? Is that why FFVIIR is on UE4?4, What do you think of the game? Are you proud or do you feel it was rushed and mismanaged?5, What do you think FFXVI is going to be? 6, Do you know anything about the Ferrari designs that didn't make it in the game?
>>360068786That Shiva summon is really underwhelming.
>>360068931what the fuck are you on about?
Why didn't you make it fun instead
1- Why main characters are gay as fuck?2- Why Final fantasy mystic quest from super nintendo is better than this?3- Holy shit, I really can't play this game with those emo characters and that low-tier fantasy scenario
>>360068931all these flavorsand you chose being a dick
>>360068786these cinematics are literally worse than some of FF7's cutscenes
Why haven't you guys commit sudoku?
>>360066360Good thing you ask that because I remember stories about the people in charge of the team wanting to change the designs of the main protagonists and a bunch of contractual problems surfacing or something like that. To sum up: the decision to have the characters designed this way was made a long time ago and they had to use those designs for a large part of the game. >>360066480Actually, some members expected harshed results because there wasn't enough confidence that his vision for the game was shared by everyone. As far as I know, the game is succeeding expectations.>>360067110There were references to the heroine having been abused by other characters, some scenes would have featured Luna crying because of her health and there were also mentions of her goal in life being meeting the male protagonist's expectations/objectives, which the team considered that were going to be problematic since the game had been carrying a bad reputation because of the way they portrayed female characters. >>360066365The game centered about death, ghosts and hallucination/dreams. Noctis killed the female protagonist before the game started but he didn't remember. Ardyn was Noctis ancestor and he was responsible of the crystals disappearing over time (the only one left was Lucis crystal). Regis died in front of Noctis because his bodyguards betrayed him. The protagonists had to leave the capital because their nation lost the war. The game didn't focus on summons that much (they still existed) and instead there were actual gods which didn't appear physically. One of the gods was the main antagonist of the first FF game. Each nation was inspired by a different capital of the world. The empire was using ghosts as weapons. Ravus wanted to kill Noctis for having killed her sister. The game ended in another dimension which was supposed to be their version of the after-life.It's hard to remember every detail.
>>360069397>>360069412>>360069068has the shitposting faggot has taken over the thread already?
>>360069209Oh yeah trying to confirm if someone is bullshitting everyone is being a dick.Maybe people here should stop believing any random faggot claiming they worked somewhere and not even able to use a trip correctly.It's perfectly understandable not wanting to reveal your exact position. But at least give some proof that you worked there (and that's possible without revealing sensitive information; a simple picture of your employee card with your name/photo hidden is a start. Or even a payslip (hide name, salary, and things like that).
>>360069491are you honestly defending those -97 level cinematics?
>>360069476>team wanting to change the designs of the main protagonists and a bunch of contractual problems surfacing or something like that.This makes sense. They had contract with Roen. This guy is legit.
>>360069476so then... that flashback scene of Luna as a young girl and Caligo is definitely scrapped? Even though it was featured in the Dawn trailer? Jesus christ.
>>3600691501.- Japan2.- Because Mystic Quest is actually a good game, too fucking easy and short, but is good.3.- Faggot
>>360069476>One of the gods was the main antagonist of the first FF game.SHHIIEETTT
Is there any possibility of Noctis' OG costume being added?
>>360069951There is already more than enough ugly clothing in the game. They need to add things that actually look decent.
>>360070025Fuck you nigga that coat fulfills my edgy dreams.
>>360069476Now that you mention it...you never see Stella interacting with anyone else in the trailers Can you remember more stuff from Versus ? Sounds interesting as fuck. Which capitals were going to serve as inspiration besides Shinjuku and Venice ?Also what about Niflheim ? You mentioned it was decided from the get go that it was going to be overrun with daemons.
>>360070025that outfit is better than any outfit you can get in the game besides the suit locked behind the deluxe edition
>>360069476> Noctis killed the female protagonist before the game started but he didn't remember. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH they were gonna kill stella before the game begins HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHat least luna lasted until chapter 9HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH FUCKING SE I SWEAR
>>360069476They were unsure of how Luna would be portrayed yet tried their fucking balls off on Cindy's design and she's nothing more than a glorified cum dumpster? Will we have a chance to see Aranea, Cid, Cindy, Iris, and Cor in the post-time skip ever? The game even goes out of their way to mention them, but we never encounter them. (I can't believe we get more interaction with Talbott than even the 4 main characters. Why do they say "let's go inside, Noct" but I can't talk to any of them and see how their lives have been in the past decade?)
>I worked on FF15>no proof>shitty vague replies 0/10 shut this thread down
>>360068239Yes, way after the ending credits.>>360069476>Noctis killed the female protagonist before the game started but he didn't remember.Glad that was nixed, heroes unknowingly killing their loved ones has gotten rather cliche.
>>360070025like the casual outfitoh my fucking God, its marvelous
>>360069476>The game centered about death, ghosts and hallucination/dreams. Noctis killed the female protagonist before the game started but he didn't remember.Already a better story than FFXV. Thanks for letting us know.
>>360070248>>shitty vague replieswhat the fuck are you talking about
>>360069476>Noctis killed the female protagonist before the game started but he didn't remember.>Ravus wanted to kill Noctis for having killed her sister.STELLAFAGS BTFO!!!
>>360061758>I would rather not answer this to feel safer (even tho I told you to ask me about anything lol)I see, you're a lying attention whore.
>>360070341you fucking jest
No, you didn't. >/v/ will just believe any random shitposter
>>360070447It does. FFXV's story is boring and predictable. Nomura is crazy and Versus sounded crazy.
>>360069737So did Caligo molest Luna? Why was this removed again? Because of SJWs? Now that you mention it, none of the Dawn trailer made it into the game. Is Caligo even in the game after you knock him unconscious? He seemed to have escaped and disappeared forever.
>>360070174I've used the casual outfit for the whole game.
>>360070521>none of the Dawn trailer made it into the game.Holy shit, I just noticed this. What the fuck went on behind the scenes? This game must've been a trainwreck to work on.
>>360070341>>360070492MGS tier story, sounds way more interesting than the real games story.
>we couldve gotten FF: Kojima Edition>we got generic sacrifice story instead Wew
>>360068052As far as I know, the next game from the team is not planned to use this engine.>>360068909Yeah, that part of the game remained over time.>>360068976I liked him and he's an excellent professional. He gets job done at very difficult circustamnces. The engine didn't adapt well to consoles and had limitations. I'm proud to have worked on the game but I think the company should have given it more development time. I don't know about FF16. There were a lot of designs and concepts scrapped, some of them by Ferrari, yeah.>>360069951There wasn't any character model for that outfit so I don't know.>>360070168There was concepts for a city that looked like old London with british bridges and architecture, I don't know about the rest. The artwork used for the Gralea capital in the game was taken straight out of the Versus project, so I guess it remained the same. The throne room however was different and the Emperor sat there waiting for Noctis. This was still in the game last year.
inb4 the nigger faggots at NeoFag steal this thread and cite it as their own leaks.
>>360070650>Kojima edition>LITERALLY Kratos' arc
>>360070341You're delusional if you don't think people would fucking riot finding out she's been "dead the whole time".
>>360070174Oops, >>360070569 was for >>360070270But you're right that it's better. I just think they could offer something besides another black suit when there are already 9.
>>360070354not him but the only thing he has actually revealed (if true - most likely not) that they cut a nearly fully done shiva area from the game and replaced it with some random shit.all other replies by him are very vague and fuzzy roundabout replies anyone could pull out of their ass+ promoting the game ofc
>>360070721Nobody would cite this thread since there's no evidence. Also, you are just believing this guy, which is funny to me. neo/v/ folks.
>>360070521You beat him and Loqi in their mechs one last time when you raid one of the optional strongholds.
>>360061246Why did you guys think a bland, un-varietized protagonist party of all guys with homosexual looks was the best choice of action for a Final Fantasy game?
>Noctis killed the female protagonist before the game started but he didn't remember.>Ravus wanted to kill Noctis for having killed her sisterFrom today, Stellafags are irrelevant.
>>360070717>As far as I know, the next game from the team is not planned to use this engine.
>>360070804>all other replies by him are very vague and fuzzy roundabout replies anyone could pull out of their assno they aren't you cunt
>>360070717What about Tenebrae ? It looked like a mixture of french and ottoman architecture
>>360070850Lol at least she still mattered in the story
>>360070717>The engine didn't adapt well to consoles and had limitations.I suspected this. Well thanks for answering my questions. Tabata was probably stuck between a rock and a hard place then. Do you think it was a mistake to let go of Nomura and Versus instead of just building on Versus? From the 2011 Versus gameplay trailer, it seemed like a good chunk of Versus was already done. >>360070872Have you seen FFXV? It's a bad engine. A massive investment completely wasted when they could've just licensed a cheap indie engine instead.
>believing this obvious horse shitDUDE LIKE JAP GOD OF WAR
I might aswell ask, did the team expect Conan to mock the game as much as he did?
PC release when?
>>360070959>Have you seen FFXV? It's a bad engine. A massive investment completely wasted when they could've just licensed a cheap indie engine instead.
>>360070931>mattered in the story>woman in refrigerator
What's next for Tabata and his team, Bussiness Division 2? Working on Type-1 or another new mainline FF?
>>360070804The Shiva thing was vague too though. Anyone could have pieced together that it was cut based on the hilariously short mission we got where we only see her corpse in the distance.
>>360071097That some tvtropes cancer im unaware of?
>>360070850>tfw a dead character had more screentime than a character who's alive for most of the game
Guys, remember 6 months ago when someone claimed to be from SE and told us the ending of the game, we all laughed at him and called him a retard, then it turned out he was right.OP, any reason for making Ignis blind aside from immense player-pain? It still remains the most upsetting part of the gameHow did the game come out unfinished when it was in development for so long??? I get that directors and teams changed hands, but you all must have had a solid 3 or 4 years of making this after it turned from XIIIVS to XV, right? Can you explain what the fuck happened with the dev cycle that everything was so rushed?What's with the blatant product placement? Was SE that desperate for the money?
>>360071091>roses are red, violets are blue.jpeg
>>360070845Noctis is hardly bland and the party is one of the most likable in FF. This is coming from someone who thought they'd all be edgy and extremely hated when I first saw them.
>>360071052Do you know just how many FFXV leaks have happened on 4chan by now? The entire story was leaked months ago and nobody believed it. Usually, if you're well read about a game, you can spot pretty easily when someone is geniune. This guy most likely is. Sometimes XV-kun will pretend he's a leaker to control narrative but it's easy to see through.
>>360070606Some spooky shenanigans for sure anon. The sheer amount of prepped CGI scenes that never made it seems like an incredible waste of time. There was another scene from the Uncovered trailer where Noct said ''thanks for everything dad, I'll take it from here'' and put on the ring of the Lucii outside in a sunny environment. Seems like there were shenanigans as to when Noct would decide to wear the ring even as late as this year. I'm beginning to believe the leaker in him saying that the snowpass where Shiva died was a playable level that was cut.
>>360071210I'm loving the proof. I worked on Mighty No. 9, ask me anything.
>>360070717>>360067375Can you elaborate more on this?
>>360061246why does square enix hate turn based gamesis it true that tabata would come into work pissed off and make everyone's work more difficult
>>360070717Holy shit, Iedolas was still going strong when Noctis arrived in Gralea? Who's insane decision was it to turn him into a generic enemy?
>>360071469Turn based is dead anon, action RPGs are more fluid and fun anyways.
>>360071152Not that anon, but go be underage somewhere else.
>>360071320Nothing he says is outrageous or goes against shit we've already suspected. This is how I knew the story leaker was legit months ago aswell when nobody believed him. It's easy to put the puzzle pieces together.
>>360061246so, based on what you know, do you feel like they will fix the majority of the story issues via DLC and updates, as they have stated? Also, any rumblings of possibly making World of Ruin playable? And what is the deal with the avatar system they are thinking of making?
>>360061246How you doing, Al?
>>360070228The end part of the game was supposed to be bigger. I know for a fact that dark world Lestallum was finished. Old Iris was also featured in some scenes. Cindy too (and I also recall them not wanting to change the Cindy design even though it was problematic because her older design implied character development).>>360070930There was supposed to be a small dungeon in Tenebrae which also got cut. If I recall correctly, the invasion didn't begin until the protagonists entered the city. >>360070959I haven't heard anything about the former director, but the project needed to change directors because the company needed a mainline game to be shipped in 2016 which appealed to mainstream trends and they trusted Tabata to do it.
>>360061246Why are you a westerner and not Japanese? Only Japanese people work on Japanese games.
>>360071664Nothing he has said is tangible or credible either. Fuck off, retard. >literally ripping off God of War>not outrageous
>>360071598fuck you. legitimately fuck you fuck this godawful planet
>>360071708What are the odds for a dark world DLC ?
>>360071842You will get something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv99JmJdto8
>>360071598What is Persona? What is SMT?
>>360063794There is no game that is too ambitious for 11 years of development time.
>>360071842Its the truth. There is no place for turn based RPGs anymore when you can create what you want to more easily now in terms of combat systems. Imagine this. KH1 in the late 90s was turn based as opposed to what it actually was and then KH2 came out and it still played the exact same. Nobody would complain at all because its fluid and shows off the flash of a Square title far better. This is why turn based is gone now. It was mostly just sitting around waiting on commands and then watching them play out, as opposed to physically doing everything yourself and getting the chance to move around and have combat flow a lot more smoothly. Turn based was fun, but it has no place anymore. Just the same as bland flat overworlds can now be shown in detail and scenery with open-world.
>>360072051the funny thing is i have one of those, i can see it from herelong expired but it looks nice on a shelf
>>360071790The guy that created Cindy is an Italian.
What's Iris' age
>>360072148I wasn't asking you to explain it to me. I like turn based and there are other games that still do it. I am just deeply disappointed that FF has become this utter trash with no resemblance to what it used to be
I love people who post cheap action game is the future bait for easy [You]'s They make me feel more accomplished inside
>>360072104Some games and companies still use it yes, but they would benefit from not using it. Persona, SMT, Pokemon, etc. They'd flow a lot better having physical control. Persona/SMT probably flowing something similarly to the Tales of series but having its own style and Pokemon could be a variety of things. There just isn't much point when better combat systems can be made.
>>360071427If you mean why is that chapter inspired by survival horror elements, the team thought it was going to be a good change of pace that would build momentum. Seems like the level failed to deliver and annoyed players, which I understand. >>360071930I don't know, the only DLC episodes planned when I left were playable levels for the three friends. >>360072052I don't know, but it will happen. Give it a year or two?>>360072127The game has had barely 3 years of actual development time.
>>360072313old enough to breed
Well I'm drunk enough to answer you nnow>>360061371I did the hair physics for the characters
>>360061246How does it feel to have worked on a piece of uninspired crap?
>>360072148yeah I really like the part where you can control multiple characters in action combat games
>>360072328FFXV actually feels like an older FF adapted to more modern times. Considering the long development time and massive changes over the years, I was fully expecting it to be a massive disappointment on the likes of FF13, I was pleasantly surprised by how the game felt and turned out. It really does feel like an old FF game meets modern times, which is something its needed for awhile. Very akin to the jump to 3D with FFVII. I'm not gonna say its better than VII, XV certainly still has its flaws like anything else, but the game is definitely still FF. >>36007231320
>>360072342Pokemon and maybe Persona sure. But SMT? No. SMT is more a strategic turn based RPG instead of tradition level grinding RPG. Its more of a puzzle game rather than getting higher and higher level because your stats doesn't really affect the game as much as FF or Pokemon. You have to understand weakness and resistances and plan out how you play the game before you start the battle. The battle training in SMT 4 is probably one of the most fun and creative way turn-based battle has been used.
>>360072681>FFXV actually feels like an older FF adapted to more modern times.BUll fucking shit. It's another goddamn FF13 but they removed the SWOOSH when you enter an encounter. The story is nonsense even to people who watched the movie and the stupid anime. Paying attention doesn't make the gibberish any clearer.There was a game here, they fucked it up and still tried to polish it with their sleeve and sell it, well I'm not buyin' it
>MFW I heard that glaringly obvious game of thrones reference where Noctis and Ardyn repeat the words exchanged by Eddard Stark and Arthur Dayne>NOW IT BEGINS>NOAITENDZIt if wasn't obvious enough one of the chapters is called hand of the king. Top kek.
>>360071202Aesthetic-wise, then, since it's still easily the worst of all the FF's design choices. Enough that if their personalities really are good, I'll be more ashamed they're stuck in such faggy bodies.Although older-Noctis definitely looks pretty cool, I'll give him that.
>>360072929that's a lie
If what we heard of Versus story is true then it really couldve been told in one game rather than a trilogyOP it would be really really cool if the original script could find its way here, if you know some folks who know some folks, ask around huh?
>>360072342>They'd flow a lot betterWhat do you mean?
>>360072959More like rip-off. They've been desperate for the GoT audience ever since they changed designs to look like GoT characters in Kingsglaive.
>>360072353They recently made an announcement about free updates adding more cutscenes to the second half. They specifically mentioned cutscenes added that would flesh out and explain Ravus motivations. Does this sound like stuff that was originally going to be in the game but had to get cut? Or does it sound like completely new content being made after the fact?also, what do you know about the 4th dlc that is adding multiplayer somehow?
>>360072929YOU TRAVEL IN A WHALE SHAPED SPACE SHIP TO THE MOON TO FIGHT LUNARIANS IN FF4
>>360073061As far as I know, the game started as one single game, then the story got expanded more and the former director wanted to divide it into parts, but then it was condensed again as one single game by the new team. I don't think any of my mates read the original script. If you mean the 2015 script for FF15, then yeah, most of us know what changed in the story and world design.
>>360072681take off your nostalgia goggles matethe only way it "feels like older FF titles" is because it's filled to the brim with forced references to them and songs from old games are playing.
>>360073442>then yeah, most of us know what changed in the story and world design.Tell us what changed. Exactly, in detail, as much as you can remember.
>>360061246If this is legit, I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed my time with the game. Granted, it wasn't without its flaws, which really aggravated me at times. But that last scene around the campfire really got to me and solidified my love for the game. Which in a way, also made me angry because FFXV really could've been much more, the potential is there. I hope SE learns from this because they have something good going here.
>>360073442By original script I mean by the former director
>>360073306That stuff was cut but they will have to rewrite and re voice those scenes since I assume they are not entirely compatible narrative wise with what the final game showed. I think one of the concepts behind the multiplayer was a scoring system based on exploring dungeons or killing enemies with multiple people.
>>360073653>If this is legitI bet you believe every leaker that comes here
>>360073617A LEGLESS, FLOATING TORSO AND TALKING RED, WOLF ARE IMPORTANT CAST MEMBERS IN FINAL FANTASY 7
>>360073738What's your point?
>>360073726>reading comprehensionHence the "if". And no need to be a little shit about it. For all we know, actual devs are lurking and if so, I'd like them to know I appreciated the game even with all its flaws.
>>360073827MAJOR CHARACTERS IN FINAL FANTASY 9 ARE CLONES. IN A FANTASY GAME.
>>360073726The last leaker was right. This guy is right too. Everything he says checks out.
>>360073691What was so different from the 2015 version that they have to revoice these scenes ? Until now you only mentioned the Luna being a victim of abuse and worshiping Noctis
>>360073827He's trying to say that you are a stupid fucking piece of shit and never played a single final fantasy game
>>360073961>>360073738>>360073371all of this has contextFFXV has no context for anything until like more than halfway through the game. and even if you watched the MANDATORY supplementary bullshit anime/movie/mobileshit you STILL have a weak grasp on what's going on.
>>360070872Luminous is trash. What do you expect? KH 3, DQ XI, and FF7R use Unreal Engine 4.
>>360074013>Everything he says checks out>Because he said it>On 4chan
>>360071165Not that guy, but I can kinda answer that one based on what's already been said, and from base inference. The actual game on store shelves right now did piggyback some assets and code, but for the most part really only started development only a year or so ago. Maybe as much as two, but not any more than that. There's been three, maybe four individual, distinct, independantly developed versions of the game; >Fabula Nova Crystalis Versus 13>Little to no actual development made. The entirety of 13 was a shitshow, inside and out, made worse by the absolute disaster that was Vanilla FF14 >Independent Versus 13>Directed by Nomura, this version is VERY different from the last one, and the rumors are that it was about 80% complete before they decided to port it from the Crystal Tools engine to the Luminous engine>Final Fantasy 15: Luminous engine>Running on "PS4 approximate hardware" as opposed to an actual PS4, AND there's a lot of bullshotting, which is why it looks so good. The story is roughly 75% of what we got, but the game is far from finished>Final Fantasy 15 1.0>Nomura replaced as director, game basically rebuilt from scratch to run on ACTUAL PS4 hardware, and then downgraded further to run on XBone. Story was solidified by this point, but there was little in the way of actual content to complete, and a lot of the GAME part of the game was still left to be conceptualized, as well as a huge emphasis on taking fan feedback into account. That's why the UI changes a LOT, and most of the story was either relegated to the movie, or jettisoned outright, because there was no other way to reconcile all the loose ends.
>>360074013Which last leaker ? The one that said that FFVIIR was going to be given a release date at PSX, the game would come out in 2017 and that Versus XIII was going to be remade by Nomura with the assets of XV ?
>>360074078By stating random plot points from FF games?
>>360074013If everything he says can be verified, that means he hasn't actually said anything new, retard
>king of kings>puts on the ring of Lucii>can't do any magic his father did or Nyx did after putting the ring
>>360074013>the last leaker>from 9 months ago>no one else has come here and claimed they've worked on the game>he says checks out.>because I said so
>>360073691Thanks.So, Episode Prompto is gonna be how he learns about his past right? Does he get to meet and fight with that old researcher dude from the empire?And episode Ignis we get to see how he loses his eyes (and he gets to fight ravus), correct? in regards to how much work on certain aspects was already completed, tell me what you think the liklihood of each of the following happening as updates or DLC: Expanded world of ruin in story/gameplay or both. expanded story and scenes of luna and her relationship with Noctis before her deathexpanded story and scenes for the empireAlso, I want to know, what exactly was the reasoning behind killing off Luna when she has so little character development? We barely get to know her or see how much she and noct supposedly like each other before she dies. We don't get a chance to love and care about her before she dies, and it makes that story element weaker.Also, tell me about the original leviathan fight before they reworked it. I know you said it ran poorly, but tell me what was different about it, both in gameplay and spectacle.Also, was there ever anymore to the final boss fight with Ardyn? And where there ever any plans to implement the lore about Ifrit's betrayal and Ardyn's connection with Ifrit (which currently only exists in the strategy guide)
There was another supposed leaker a week or so ago alleging that a Versus XV may be in the works depending on how well XV sold, Can you get into a brawl with him so we know who to trust, or perhaps just address it here.
>>360074146He probably means the guy who leaked the entire story months ago.
>>360073579Well, the first stop after Altissia had an (smaller) open world area and you could drive the car alone. There was a level leading up to when you encounter the Shiva statue. The dark world section of the game featured more enviroments, you encountered each party member in different locations and you could explore part of Lestallum. The final boss (which was another Ardyn form) got cut early this year. The Tenebrae invasion happened after the protagonist entered the city and you got to explore a very small section of the city and Luna's chamber.Scenes that featured Luna got cut because they were considered to be problematic.Cor got written out of the last half of the story since it made no sense for him to show up (he was Noctis companion during the small open area after Altissia).>>360073653Thanks for this message.
>>360074432We all know that guy was full of shit and banking off peoples angerThis guy is alot more plausible, I say this as someone who signed those silly petitions
>>360074079>all of this has contextA NAKED FEMALE BODY ALIEN THAT LANDED ON THE PLANET VIA A METEOR 2000 YEARS AGO WAS THE REASON AN ANCIENT, SPACE FARING RACE, ANCESTORS TO HUMANS, ENDED, CREATING THE MOTIVATION FOR A SUPER SOLDIER, IMBUED WITH GENETICALLY MODIFIED GENES OF SAID ALIEN, TO GO MAD AND SEEK OUT THE LEGENDARY PROMISED LAND
>>360074574did you put any easter eggs in the game?
Do you think XVI will happen or is Square moving completely to the Mobile market?
>>360074102If SE threw away all the work, experience, and technology they've put into Luminous after making FF15, their grandest, most complex game ever, aside from maybe FF14, I'd be shocked.
>>360074815But anon, we already have Brave eXVIus
>>360063225Why the game runs so badly on PS4? I thought at least frame pacing should be a fucking standard to have in AAA game. You can even have dips but if you don't have proper frame pacing it doesn't matter you advertise as a 'next gen' console. Why it is so bad? Blurry textures, bad antialiasing, hair system looks worse than FFXIII and gets dithering everywhere...I can go on. When the guys walk on asphalt outside why does it echo like it was recorded inside a toilet? Once you hear it you can't unhear it. Put on good earphones and listen.
I love roleplay threads. I work for Nintendo, ask me about the switch, senpai desu!!!
>>360074731Yes, in fact the supplementary FFVII materials go much more in-depthalso turn off your capslock manman you capslockin and you don't even know what the plot is, you gettin shit wrong bruh
>who care what I did that night?>so what, maybe Luna had it right?Just how many content was cut from the game?
>>360074731Yes, what's the problem?
Any chance we'll see World of Ruin DLC? I'd kill to explore the dark world Did the decision to go open world cause the majority of good side quests to get cut? This one's easy: did they actually rip the male Elezen animation from XIV and use it on Adult Noctis? Took me a minute to recognize it, but I'm almost certain that's the running/sprinting animation he uses
>>360074901Phantom Pain had similar outdoor area and similar shading/lighting and it still manages to squeeze out 60 fps on normal PS4. What the fuck were you doing for so many years???
>>360074574>Well, the first stop after Altissia had an (smaller) open world area and you could drive the car alone. This would have been great. I loved the isolation and alienating atmosphere before you do the dungeon in Chapter 10. It would have been great to drive the car alone while listening to a noctis monologue relaying his inner thoughts and feelings about the situation. That could have been great.>There was a level leading up to when you encounter the Shiva statue. This could have been good too, this portion of the game needed more gameplay.>The dark world section of the game featured more enviroments, you encountered each party member in different locations and you could explore part of Lestallum. I really hope they add this back in somehow. Even if they have to rewrite part of Chapter 14 to make it work.>The final boss (which was another Ardyn form) got cut early this year. I need to hear specifics about this fight and what it was like and reasons why it was cut. I always felt like there was a piece of the final battle missing, and how it was weird that your friends just instantly show up next to you in the cutscene right after you kill him.>The Tenebrae invasion happened after the protagonist entered the city and you got to explore a very small section of the city and Luna's chamber.Like I said before, I would be fine for them rewriting this chapter to make this still happen. It wouldn't change the overall story- just this chapter, and It would make it work.>Scenes that featured Luna got cut because they were considered to be problematic.SJWs ruining good things again.>Cor got written out of the last half of the story since it made no sense for him to show up (he was Noctis companion during the small open area after Altissia).Am I correct in assuming that Cor only exists because he was already everywhere in promo material for Versus 13? He feels forced in nearly every single scene he is in.
Hey OP thanks for the Q&A. Been a good read.
>>360074949AFTER THE LAST REMAINING INDIVIDUAL OF A LONG, LOST ANCIENT RACE, WHO LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE A REGULAR HUMAN, DIES, WITH A GIANT SWORD THROUGH HER GUT, WHICH SHOWS NO VISIBLE BLEEDING, CONTINUES TO LIVE ON IN THE AFTERLIFE, WHICH IS PHYSICALLY MANIFESTED IN A GREEN ENERGY CALLED THE LIFESTREAM, THAT IS ALSO THE PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION OF THE PLANET, WHICH IS ALSO A LIVING BEING, IS THE REASON THE WORLD IS SAVED FROM A MAGIC THAT CREATES A GIANT RED, METEOR IN THE SKY.
>>360074432I don't know about this Versus XV thing but I highly doubt it's true. The only games being developed around FF15 are for mobile last time I heard, so it might be one of them, but like I said, I highly doubt it.>>360074409I don't think they will make the world of ruin levels that were unfinished explorable unless there is more story dlc planned. I doubt they will release the Luna scenes since the response would not be good, but the deleted scenes about the empire might get released.Like I said, Luna was featured in more scenes but they got cut. The original Leviathan fight combined interiors and exteriors and many enemies on screen, Luna also appeared. Like I said earlier, the final form for Ardyn was cut early this year. I haven't heard anything from the strategy guide but it might not have updated information about the story.
You fucking cunt don't come here to pretend you work because you didn't do shit. Tmblr faggot, get triggered and jump off the bridge liar.
>>360072496You still have control over your party members. Its no different than selecting attack for them in Turn Based games. They just now do it automatically along with spells when they have them. Items, Techs, etc. are still relocated to your control as they have always been. >>360072917I'll concede that SMT relies more on strategy than most other RPG series, even then you could pull an FFTactics or FE with SMT, it gives you more freedom of control, while allowing for more strategy and thoughtful and engaging gameplay.But that is just my opinion on the matter. >>360072929It is most certainly not FFXIII in anyway beyond the the open-world segment towards the end of XIII (which was by far the best part of the game and was actually fun).As for the story, it is stupidly simplistic and easy to understand. I have yet to watch the Anime or Kingsglaive and I understand it perfectly fine. Its one of the most simplistic and easy to understand stories that FF games have, which says a lot.And yes, there actually is a game there, I'm not gonna say things couldn't have used polish in some places or that it isn't flawed. But its certainly one of the better FF overall in terms of designs despite said flaws and unpolish.>>360073181For Pokemon you'd have a degree of control over the direction of moves and the ability to avoid said moves. It'd allow for something a bit more dynamic and akin to two monsters fighting instead of standing around waiting on each other to move, with most things being relocated to pure RNG (such as moves missing). As for Persona, I think it would flow a bit better in terms of precision attacks and the ability to swap on the fly with a dedicated button for Persona (think Bayo Weapon switching) without having to go through a menu, just have them preset and let them fly, which opens up varied playstyles in which you can run around and attack the enemy. It'd be no different than running around the hub but also being able to fluidly attack.
>>360072681>actually feels like an older FF adapted to more modern times.Yeah with all the outdated things,lifeless npc and towns and bad mechanics and design choices included.This is exactly how you dont go from 2d to 3d
>>360074815XVI will happen...and sooner that you might think....probably.They probably started working on it when they finished XIII, so if it don't go trought development hell it might be even almost completed.
>>360074432That was XV-kun. He was just trying to calm the rage. You fell for it. Good job. This guy is geniune though.
>>360061246Why is it so shit?
>>360075267stop mass replying to say bullshitnobody thinks the story is simple or easy to understand, it fucking conflicts with the movie which the supposed square enix employee in this very thread stated was a byproduct of the plot being rewritten after work had already begun on the movie
>>360075183they said they are planning on making Luna playable though. How would that work without luna scenes?
>>360074883They already did. All of their upcoming titles use Unreal Engine 4.
>>360074574Do you think the game would have been better if Nomura were to have directed it? Time taken to make it is out of the question.
I can't believe you fucking retards fall for this shit. God what a cringe thread of some lonely douche roleplaying
>>360075565b-but anon, I can verify everything he said with a Google search so that must mean he's got some real inside info!
>>360075183What was the Ardyn Boss fight like originally, and why was it cut? Any chance of it returning in some form? What was rewritten, if anything, to cut this scene? Also, was there ever anymore to the scene where Noctis finishes off Ardyn inside the crystal?Whats the reasoning behind Ardyn seeing Nocts friends with him for a moment inside the Crystal, or Luna touching his arm?Better yet, in the scene on the train when Gentianna reveals she is Shiva, what is the deal with Noctis seeing Ghost Luna for a second?
Guys, I got to go! I spent some minutes trying to answer to all of you, I might come back at a later time. I hope you had a great time with the game and those who didn't like it at least understand that people tried their best for year to deliver a good product. Until next time!
>>360075415Yea, because Luminous was proven.
>tfw you've been really enjoying FFXV and its comfiness and was heavily surprised by how fun the game actually turned out to beTo each their own I guess, I'm enjoying it immensely.
>>360075665This is sadly the evidence to show how gullible and stupid this board is.
>>360075097Fox Engine is absurdly well optimized. Luminous is a piece of shit. There's the difference
>>360075183This faggot still isn't giving any details and is being extremely vague about a project he supposedly worked on for nearly three years and no longer has any connection to. This is bullshit.
>>360075736Shut the fuck up attention whore
>>360075737And XV proved it's a pile of shit. It's Crystal Tools 2.0. Crystal Tools was dropped as hard.
>>360075313>This guy is genuine >Even though he's provided as much proof as the other guy Underage LEAVE.
>>360074731>>360075176Are you deliberately missing the point? No one's saying the problem with FFXV's story is that the context is outlandish, it's that it's lacking. The story is clearly unfinished and plot elements and characters are introduced and abandoned in the blink of an eye. You can post all these parts of other games in all caps and they'll obviously seem completely out of left field but it's not like the lifestream and Jenova were things that were brought up out of nowhere and then forgotten about.
>>360075298Another anon whose mother worked for SE as a side quest writer said that they actually weren't going to make XVI unless XV did well, since XV took 10 years and a massive amount of money to make. I posted the pics way earlier today in an Ignis thread
Who's better: Stella or Luna? Also did you work on Luna's hair?
To the people saying this guy is bullshit, just remember that XV leaks from June that happened on 4chan turned out to be completely correct http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1233181
>>360075981At least Crystal Tools was used for 4 games. One of them doesn't exist any more but still.
>>360076610So? That doesn't mean this guy is legit.
>>360061246Hey man, glad you had a good time doing it. Living the dream and all thatI really thought the game was shit until I played it. I understand what they were going for now, it's just a shame about all of the cut content. This actually could have been one of the best FFs ever, but I can't ignore how butchered it is in spite of all of its good ideas.What would you have changed about the game to make it more enjoyable?
>>360076610>1/100 leakers is right, so that means this guy is rightflawless logic
>tfw every mainline FF since XII has been a production disaster>we'll probably get teasers for XVI in late 2017/2018 and it'll change from whatever it looks like into a completely different game before it comes out in 2020
>>360077327XII also had a production disaster.
Should I buy FFXV? I haven't bought it yet but I know most of the spoilers. Is it worth it?
>>360077459>since XIIHe said that silly
What was the point of that dream where Noctis lose his powers, fight a bunch of imperials and you see the dog dying?
>>360077472If you already know the twists, no. I'd wait for them to finish patching the story, at least
>>360077472Might as well wait now for a FFXV complete edition or whatever since there's going to be a bunch of updates and DLC.
So, can you get Ifrit as a summon in post game?
>>360078092Not that anyone has found. People are still finding things though, an example being Nyx's daggers from the psychomancer. Their marks also read the same as the others; "may aid you in times of great peril". Also there are the buttfuck retarded requirements for summoning.
>>360077724Pure shoehorning of fanfiction. Omen is hard to make sense of. The trailer seems to imply that Noctis will himself become the immortal and kill Luna, and also that a guide along the way has been misleading him (Pryna). We might interpret the battle between Noctis and Luna with the Cerberus' watching them as a hypothetical use of Ardyn's illusions (he makes Prompto look like himself in the game - Noct ends up attacking Prompto and throwing him off a train outside Gralea). So it may be Ardyn making Luna appear as himself so that Noct will try to kill her. Noct did end up losing his weapons and Pryna did die as well. Noctis dreams about this in a hotel bed in Lestallum, my guess is that it was Ardyn fucking with his head, just like how he strings up the four illusionary corpses above the throne at the end of the game.
>>360061758Larping on 4chan is still a thing?
>>360061246Is ff15 supposed to be delayed furtherBut tabata just pushed it to 2 months delay because he's afraid of the fan's riot?
>200+ people worked on this for 4+ years not counting Versus yearsWhat a waste of manpower. In the PS2 games, this would've been enough for five top-tier games.
Tell us something more about Ardyn. Was his backstory cut?
This is what happens when SE listens to reddit and brain dead japs
>>360072353>CaligoCan they add more magic into the game? Spells like protect were shown in Kingsglaive, but aren't in the final game. This game's magic is realy lacking.
>>360082010I wish they would. Once you're halfway competent with a single weapon and the movement mechanics, your other equipment is just stat sticks and spells.
>>360064484No but some idiots in this thread will spout what he says as though it's a fact when there is no proff
>>360077327>XIIFuck that, every FF since 8 has been a production disaster, with the exception of 9, and that's only because 9 wasn't originally developed as a mainline title. You want a real shitstorm, read up on the production history of FF10. Probably the biggest troubled production in the entire series, second only now to 15. Square literally doesn't know how to make an FF game without destroying itself in the process.
>>360061246are you retarded? also, was anyone else on the production staff retarded?
>>360061246How do you sleep at night?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO0JaecRWy0
>>360061246Why was the magic system changed from it's KH type system? The current one is just too slow and magic doesn't flow with the combat as did in the Vesres XIII trailers. It's like they downgraded it for no reason.
>>360082620You got anywhere good to read up on that? Sounds interesting.
>>360077724What dream? Is this part of Versus XIII or something?
>>360063225>The team literally ran out of time.YOU HAD 10 YEARS
>>360084707Versus XIII and XV are very different games. Few things were carried over. XV itself basically had 3, maybe 4 years, and using Luminous Studio slowed development down a ton because it's a very unfriendly engine for developers
>>360084580There's a dream sequence in the game. They just took a bit of the Omen trailer and used it as a cutscene. It happens in Lestalum after the first stealth sequence.
>>360069476So Noctis had a dual personality. That actually sounds in line with what I expected. So the moments he talked to stella were in his head? That's tragic.
>>360085937Noctis is mentally ill just like Tabata
>>360061246Why is he so perfect?
>>360071185I work in a Japanese company too (Shanghai though) . I'm curious, could you describe the working conditions and culture at your company?
>>360085054Chapter 13 he loses his weapons.Luna dies because he's following the white dog around.Though I'm pretty sure most of the Omen trailer was just there as theatrics because at the end it has him following Umbra and killing Luna himself.
What do I do if I hate SE lying with each and every piece of promo material they release?
>>360082620>and that's only because 9 wasn't originally developed as a mainline title.neither was 15
>>360082620>Production disaster>VIII>XI would love to know more, especially concerning VIII because that game is my guilty pleasure.
>mfw Regalia type F
>>360086359Man Episode Duscae looks miles better than the final game
>>360087890Yeah, and the performance gain was minuscule compared to Duscae, they should have just kept the same graphics.
>>360085054Oh right. Forgot about that. It was so out of place that my mind tried to push that shit to a dark corner to be forgotten
>>360069951>That picSeriously what happened to this setting for fuck sake? Instead we got some bland desert/forest and venice
>>360088205>minisucle >drops as low as 20fps>main game runs at a mostly solid 30fpsYeah, it has frame pacing issues, but that can likely be fixed According to the previous big leak before the game came out, the game barely ran at all on anything but high end PCs as of June. I'd say they did a great job making it look and run so well on mediocre hardware
OP's asleep post yumi
>>360088554i've already fapped today stop
>Nobody asked if Lightning was originally planned to have a forced cameo or anything
Evilore sexually assaults women.We all glad BishopTL got demoded, no one liked him.
I miss OP.
>>360075267>For Pokemon you'd have a degree of control over the direction of moves and the ability to avoid said moves.Sounds like every turn bases system with a grind or positional requirement > to swap on the fly with a dedicated button for Persona (think Bayo Weapon switching) without having to go through a menu,Sounds like a menu shurtcutYou sound retarded.
>>360066778>I heard that the team had to change and delete certain scenes about her because they portrayed her in a way that would have been criticized nowadaysProbably the scene where she was physically abused as a child. Fucking SJWs I swear. I do remember someone on NeoFAG made a thread bitching about it and Cidney's outfit. or she may have slept with Noctis before she dies
>>360061246PC release when?
>>360061246are they gonna make an additional ending to go with the dissapointing one we got?
>>360090392It would be hard to write themselves out of that corner with Noctis, but what else was wrong with the ending?
Just finished the game. The last scene confused me a bit. Did Luna do something to drag them into a dream realm? Or bring them both back to life, in some kind of way, because Umbra is there... And, any infomation about a NG+? Because going back in in time, post-end, feels kinda sad.
>>360074883>their grandest, most complex game ever, aside from maybe FF14,FF14 doesn't even have half of FFXi complexity or hugeness.
>>360072148>KH1 in the late 90s was turn based as opposed to what it actuallyOh, it's one of those idiot who think action RPG are a recent thing. Cute.
>>360075736If you do come back, why did you guys cock tease us with the date with Iris and Cindy and then give us that shitty romance with Luna. It felt like we were supposed to have options.
>they couldn't finish on time some part of the gameYeah, is not like you had 10 years to complete this shit. How incompetent a team could be? Fucking AAA studios deserve nothing, just like The Witcher 3, they add everything AND MORE in less than 10 years. Fuck Square. Fuck japanese overrated games.
>>360061246Answer this >>360076558
Why the fuck did they change the old weapon swapping system from the 2014 trailer that lets you use all of your weapons?
>>360090812I think it's showing what Regis envisioned as a happy ending for Noctis; what he wanted for him. He knew it wouldn't happen like that, but it's what he wanted
>>360091563They started over several times because of engine problem, the need to fix other games and change in design decision. The actual development time was not even close to 10 years
>>360090812Could be the afterlife or inside the crystal since the old kings and summons seems to live in it
>>360090812NG+ is coming in a patch, probably this month alongside the first DLC. As for the ending I interpret it as Luna and Noctis being together in spirit rather than coming back to life.
>>360070341Fuck off nomuracuck
>>360090928>FF14 doesn't even have half of FFXi complexity or hugeness.To make, not to play.
>>360091684Because that's a trailer with a HUD slapped on it from 2013.
>>360062649>i stop falling through the worldwow quality testing therei thought games on consoles JUST WORKED lolol
>>360083376I miss versus.
>>360092059fuck off tabatacuck
>>360091634>Noctis killed the female protagonist before the game started but he didn't remember.>Ravus wanted to kill Noctis for having killed her sister.If only they have showed us Luna's own journey (her waking up/fighting the summons) then she really does have more role than Stella. Too bad the game failed showing it. Also iirc, one of the leakers said that in the original script, Luna survives and joins the group in the 10 year timeskip. I suppose they scrapped that as welll.
>>360083376Because Final Fantasy XIV 1.0 crippled the company, rebuilding XIV resulted in many games delayed or cancelled, and by the time Versus got any traction, they canned it so they could rework it to FF15, because it would be more than 7 years between single player mainline FF games if they didn't.
>>360092297Remember when enemies where supposed to take on jobs, like Aranea being a dragoon? Well Ravus was supposed to be a mage, guess what he's not in the final game?
>>360092297>>360092708we'll always have the trailers
>>360074013Even though everything he says about Stella contradicts what the last leaker said?retard
Lol some Neofag made a thread over there about this and linked to this thread. Hello Neofags.
>>360092297>missing something that never existed
>>360093413link the thread
>>360093413>admitting you are neotrash
>>360069476>that versus storyliterally Nomura
hi SE. What the fuck happened to Altissia. You stated on the official forums and said it was explorable to the max as in considerable size. Why is it super small?
When was the decision made to gut the Insomnia invasion and ruin FFXV's introduction? If they had 6 more months to actually fix the retarded plot in the 2nd half, the overall pacing, and added the invasion, this game could've been something special.
>>360094310I don't know, but I'm glad it wasn't much bigger. It was already annoying to navigate on foot.
>>360094586fuck off reddit
>>360094451Also I'm pretty sure Nomura mentioned Versus was supposed to have playable segments of Noctis's childhood.>Playing as kid Noctis and seeing his relationship with Regis, Luna and possibly other characters as he grows up>Exploring Insomnia before the invasion>Then playing through Insomnia being invaded, Noctis actually seeing his dad die>Escaping the city with the other 3 characters>Start your journey as a bunch of fugitives instead of "I'M GETTING MARRIED"
Anyone else pissed off that the entire map of Tenebrae was the size of a swimming pool?I remember when they released that trailer showing all of the environments and Tenebrae looked so awesome to explore but yet when you get there in the game its too damn dark and you can barely see shit in the background.
>>360094586fuck off tumblr
>>360061246When the fuck is the PC port, so we can get the graphics looking like the 2013 outing.
>>360095370It will probably be DLC, but yes I'm pissed off
I worked on the game. OP is full of shit though he did get lucky on the Shiva area being cut. Most of the stuff on that entire continent was cut. The stuff about Stella is complete bullshit; She was going to be a rival character you fought multiple times in the first game before joining the party in Gladio's place for the final boss fight.
>>360095437Probably when all the DLC is done.
>>360095437 PC begging is annoying as fuck, but I do want a PC version, I hope it looks like this
>>360096079It probably will, I just hope they optimize it well
>>360094586Wow these people are legit retarded.
>>360061246What's the name of the song that plays when you wake up the huge bird/fight the cobra?
Well... That was an interesting read and if true, more or less confirms many things that have been made from XIII and XIV on XV.I wonder, was there any time that it looked like Nomura was going to be fired?
>>360096391FF13 wasn't, but it's whatever. You can probably brute force it now a days.The biggest reason to get a PC port is to Watch Dogs E3 it.
is this part of insomnia in the game?
>>360069476>The game centered about death, ghosts and hallucination/dreams. Noctis killed the female protagonist before the game started but he didn't remember. Ardyn was Noctis ancestor and he was responsible of the crystals disappearing over time (the only one left was Lucis crystal). Regis died in front of Noctis because his bodyguards betrayed him. The protagonists had to leave the capital because their nation lost the war. >The game didn't focus on summons that much (they still existed) and instead there were actual gods which didn't appear physically. One of the gods was the main antagonist of the first FF game. Each nation was inspired by a different capital of the world. The empire was using ghosts as weapons. Ravus wanted to kill Noctis for having killed her sister. The game ended in another dimension which was supposed to be their version of the after-life.Yep, sounds like a Nomura game. Also, it's funny how people are hyping Stella as if she's the final boss when she was dead all along. (Also killed by Noctis himself) This would explain why she only ever had interactions with Noctis too and Noctis has the ability to see the dead.
>>360096904I just hope my laptop will be able to run it
>>360096615Answer me dipshit
seriously he won't answer my question about Altissia? SE are lying fucks. Stupid hype all for nothing. I was so excited to explore everything. Piss off.
>>360064373>>360065556Solheim was cut. Col was supposed to reappear and help out there and die for drama.Most of the stuff OP got right was already leaked by other people, and the majority of his shit is wrong and can be easily confirmed as wrong by anyone who worked on the game in the slightest.You people are fucking retarded.
>>360097194Yes. At the very end.
>>360097227None of that shit about Ravus and Stella was ever in the script.Ravus was supposed to be a villain 100% up until rewrites at the beginning of this year. In V13 he was supposed to be the penultimate boss of the first game. He was a mage and the guy in the hood. After the switch to XV he remained a villain who was supposed to have been a mid-boss a few times before showing up corrupted in the imperial capital. His sole motive in both versions was revenge against Insomnia, Regis and Noctis for his mother's death.
>>360061246Was there any point it was looking like Nomura was gong to be fired? BTW thank you for the info.
>>360081009Is this official art?Ardyn is literally Jesus of Eos tho
>>360096615are you looking for this? How do you not know ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_YvTi3ljg4
>>360098189Thank you very much, anon
>>360097370>I was so excited to explore everythingYeah I thought we could explore like at least 80% of what was shown, not like 10%
4chan is legendary now.this website is totally completely run the ture world from
>>360064086>>360064904>Izunia from a thousand years agoThis is further undeniable proof that OP is full of shit. Izunia being the name of Noctis' ancestor is a fan theory. There is no significance to the name in the script and design documents, it's just a name and nothing more.
>>360076643Luminous was just a lighting engine at the start with the possibility of using for FF7 which is why Cloud was used as the mascot. Agni's Philosophy was what was thought to be the base spec for the next generation. It fell hard considering the PS4 never reached that level. They probably designed the game engine around, then downgraded as they went along.
NEOFAG GET OUT OF MY BOARD
>>360097370He left the thread a while ago, faggot
>>360061246why make the car so awful? why not let use drive freely? and why didn't you add a fuck load of dialogue while taking those long boring rides? why didn't you put an option to not let characters interrupt long rides?
>>360098507I don't see how that makes OP full of shit.Like, it's pretty fucking obvious that Ardyn is implying that Izunia is the name of one of Noct's ancestors, I don't see how OP confirming that makes him full of shit.
>>360070959XV looks awesome and runs well at that.
Can this faggot please stop posting.
>>360076381Post them again pretty please
Or maybe he's full of shite. Ever thought of that?
>>360098980>Garrett Hawke>using problematic unironicallyI really hate what BioWare has become. One of the leads on ME Andromeda boasts about how he hates white people on Twitter, yet that's alright. The hypocrisy is astounding >>360099041Aight
>>360098757I worked on the game and that's plain bullshit you retard. Noctis' ancestors were also Lucis Caelums. He was betrayed by someone related to him (all of this was from the XV rewrites and it was never even really specified how they're related). OP is passing off fanfiction bullshit in his "leaks".Also see >>360097874>>360097432>>360095793But sure just lap up all of his nonsense and ignore me. Typical /v/.
>>360091148Hold up, date with Cindy? Is this in the game?
>>360098980It's obviously referring to the scene where she was abused as a child. Funny that someone from neofag made a thread about it and started bitching about how the females are treated in the game. Then a few moments later she made a thread about how Stella is the best thing ever! Dude is probably just too retarded to understand anything.
I don't believe any of this.
>>360098980Why hasn't NeoFAG killed themselves yet?
>>360099376A few easy questions I'd kill to know the answers to, if you don't mindDid the transition to open world kill all most of the good side quests Any chance we'll see World of Ruin expanded upon? Is Adult Noctis actually using the male Elezen running and sprinting animations from FFXIV? >>360099278>>3600993933/6
>>360099656Jesus Christ.What is the connection between overwatch and faggots?
>>360099376>WAHHH, Im the real dev, not him!!youre both shooting blanks
This became cancer with some underage posting neogaf's screencap here.
>>360099278>>360099393>>360099706>>3600998295/6 >>360099808Kill it with fire
>>360099376You understand that dialogue makes no sense at all if they have the same last name, right? Why would he tell Noctis to guess what his own last name is if it's the one he already thinks he has?You're an idiot.
>>360099706That part about Regis is somewhat believable, there was a Versus XIII trailer years and years ago and it had a scene where Regis was telling Noctis that he would never give Noctis the throne
>>360099706>Did the transition to open world kill all most of the good side quests It was always supposed to be open world and road trip themed, even with Nomura on the project. But side quests were always low on priority.>Any chance we'll see World of Ruin expanded upon? It's been proposed but not worked on. Probably depends on sales and demand. It's still mostly patches being worked on right now.>Is Adult Noctis actually using the male Elezen running and sprinting animations from FFXIV? Didn't actually work on technical stuff so don't know. I did have access to design docs and the script and sat in on most of the meetings, but wasn't involved in the lower stuff.
>>360061371Judging by the other answer you got, probably some crap tester or just lying. The hair was a canned product we had to deal with.
>>360099808>ageismYou're retarded NeoGAF.
>>360099278>>360099393>>360099706>>360099829>>3600999876/6 Sounds like Tabata made some good changes to me. If open world came at the expense of side quests, then that's a damned shame, but otherwise I really enjoyed the game
>>360100001>You understand that dialogue makes no sense at all if they have the same last name, right? Why would he tell Noctis to guess what his own last name is if it's the one he already thinks he has?This was never the intention of the line. The translation team bungled it and idiots like you decided to run a fucking mile with a badly-phrased translation. In Japanese he just says "Izunia? I don't even remember where I got that from".
>>360100179Where is your picture
>>360100176>google search him + "problematic">he's defending Anita everytime she makes a shitty videoKill yourself NeoFAG.
>>360099987I'm >>360100197>>360100060>>360099376These seem to be mostly legit.
>>360100179Forgot my pic >>360100060Thanks! Shame side content was low, but that's not too surprising considering the time span of XV's actual development and the Luminous Engine being a pain in the ass to develop with
how the fuck do i land the flying regalia without ending my death prematurely AAAA
>>360073015>Aesthetic-wise, then, since it's still easily the worst of all the FF's design choices.No, dude.
So FF7Remake will be better like ????
We have been bamboozled.
>>360099987>>360100585And faggots on /v/ shit on Tabata.The guy took the project and made it work and released it as a full game, using a engine that is not propely to do open world games.Now i look forward for his next project, hopefully he will have full control since the beggining.Thanks Nomura, you cuck.
>>360100712Tabata's next game?Everyone dies
>>360100426This one's a bit off. Nomura always wanted the game to be open world.>>360099393>basically heartlessThis is wrong, the "daemons are dead people" twist was always there from the beginning. It was originally supposed to tie into the Etros but wasn't actually entirely worked out (the third game only had a vague outline).
>>360099808>It would serve the other 75% of the audience playing the game who isn't a white man, who would be able to see some kind of representation of themselves on screen.Is this actually a thing that non-white non-male gamers care about? I'm a white dude and I give zero shits about what the characters I play as look like. Black guy, asian woman, latino guy, I don't care. Is that just because I'm white and the majority of protagonists are too? It honestly just seems like self-insert faggotry to me but maybe I don't have that perspective or something.
>I-I-it was good!
You guys making a Switch version?
>>360099987Wow more proof Nomura is a hack. Literally rehashing his shitty game.
>>360100794Is there any truth to the "rumors" about Nomura redoing Versus XIII in a spinoff, or reusing its plot elements in KH3 or something?
>>360100794To elaborate: V13's script for the first game was entirely complete start to finish. The whole plot. Second game was half done, third was only a vague outline with the general direction that the game was to go in. Empire was to remain until the end of the second game which was why the big cast of empire bosses which got cut to just Ravus (not even a mage anymore) and Aranea in XV. Some work on the first game was done before switching to XV but no work was done on the second and third though some of the stuff from them (everything on the second continent for example) was brought into XV anyway.>>360101023I've heard nothing of the sort.
>>360100910Walking, talking, living hypocrites.
Why did you think it was a good idea to kill off the entire cast?
>>360100712Right? He did a great job. He completely overhauled a project in development hell and shaped it into a fully functioning, albeit somewhat unpolished, released game in 4 - 4.5 years >>360100794Good to know. I'm screen capping your stuff too. Only other question I have is: is the Luminous Engine as shitty (from a developer's point of view) as it's made out to be? I'm guessing it is, considering FFVII-R is using UE4
>>360101403Faggots must die.
>>360101478I didn't handle technical stuff but people were complaining about it and I heard that there were a series of meetings discussing whether or not to dump it for another engine before I joined the project (sometime in 2014?)
>>360101670Do you know if SE is working on anything for the Switch? Have you had a chance to play with it?
>>360101670Right, you already said that you weren't doing technical stuff. My bad. Been a long day. Thanks for humoring us, anon
>>360101478>>360101789>>360101894Don't know anything about other SE projects as I was contracted only for this.I would like to add though that the localization team seemed thoroughly incompetent to me. Hell, they were clearly struggling to communicate with the Japanese team members.
>>360101198Why scrap it then? Seems like they were mostly done with the hard parts
>>360102131To elaborate-They had no idea how to write business e-mails in Japanese-Their pronunciation was atrocious-Whenever anyone spoke at a normal pace they'd look puzzled and either the speaker would have to repeat themselves or someone else who spoke both languages would have to translate for them, either there or later.They were chosen solely based on paper credentials and connections.>>360102276The first game is completely different from XV and incomplete as a story (it's an "end of disc 1" moment), plus half of that script was rewritten into Kingsglaive.
>>360061246Was Ardyn suppose to be the main villain of versus 13 or was he created just to be the villain of 15?
>>360102740Are you retarded?>>360075736
>>360102424Sounds like we all got the shirt end of the stick on translation. Sounds like Nomura was working very slowly then. No wonder they remade the game with a new story and "new" characters if story was about all they had done, and it was only about 50% done for the trilogy
Reminder that even JPN seiyuu of Noctis said that the versus script was completely different, and he had trouble of switching to the XV personality during his recordings. https://youtu.be/jUW4nBmI3rk?t=2h27m2s
>>360098324Some much for that open world.
>>360098324Just because there's architecture you can't explore doesn't mean that it was intended to begin with.
So whats the verdict on this game?
>>3601064897/10Fun openworld half, story goes to shit outside of a cool Resident Evil chapter.
>>360106489It's shit game that should not exist. SE should re-evaluate what it means to make games for them. Unless they want to keep repeating development hell for each project they do.
>>360061246What got removed from the game?What was unfinished?What is planned content?
>>360094586>two sets of real leaks posted on this thread>the retards only discuss the fake ones
>>360061246you know Hazmer?
Yo, will you explain the ending most especially the post credit scene? What is the of official interpretation? Did they actually revived thru time paradox or something?
>>360107867OP is 100% legit. I don't know about the second guy.
hey i have leaks monster hunter 5 is coming to ps4 lol im am capcom employee rathalos will be in the game
>>360108141>100% legitNo he isn't
>>360099278>>360099393>>360099706>>360099829>>360099987>>360100426>mfw reading what versus XIII could have beenit hurts guyssssss it really hurts
>>360108141>Outright contradicts stuff we already knew for years>Bases "leaks" off fan theories based on mistranslations >100% legitk
>>360108267Yes he is, and I believe him even more when he doesn't bullshit fully about a script from Versus which 99% of the people never had full access to since a skeleton crew worked on it for years.OP talks about the actual game under Tabata when 300+ people worked on it. You're going to believe a version of "my mother worked on Versus"?
>>360108516Which parts does it contradict?
>>360108642>I believe in attention whores becauseNo wonder this thread lasted 500 posts, retards like you give him attention
>>360108998You sure proved me wrong
>>360108642>>360108725go read everything nomura said over the years and look at the Versus XIII stuff newfaggot
>>360070341That sounds worse in every way.
>>360088281The desert and Venice were in the game since Versus
>>360109160>inb4 b-but this guy on an Mongolian knitting webzone said this is what happened. So what if he has no proof, it's real to me dammit!
>>360070341That literally confirms Stella would have been worse than Luna because Stella was dead the entire time and didn't really exist. Also shitty amnesia forced shit.Versuscucks on damage control.
>>360109160I did. Nothing from OP seems contradictory.
>>360061246Why didn't you guys fix Cidney's name? Why did you even change it in the first place?
>>360070850It's hilarious too because they've officially been cucked.
>>360109497this shit >>360109486also>>360109320
>>360109160I don't believe anything dev's of big publishers because investors, business and marketing have too much influence that'll screw up any plans they have plus they themselves are still unsure of their creations mid development.Plus they'll never tell the truth of what is really happening because they need to keep face in front of investors
>>360109874I'm talking about OP. The one who said Stella died pretty much right at the beginning. During the invasion.
>>360071164>>360070931Stella had 5 minutes of screentime and is dead so doesn't developed as a character. Luna already has more screentime than Stella will ever have and with us seeing her burdens of her duty weighing on her health and put into important situations. If not for Luna then Noctis wouldn't even have the ring of the lucii to become king and stop the plague. Stella was just some dead bitch that no one but Noctis could see and didn't do anything important.Stella mattered even less than Crowe did in kingsglaive.
>>360071256That thanks dad thing and putting on the ring was used with older Noctis in insomnia, they probably just wanted to not reveal the time skip at that point. Birth by Sleep trailer to final game did the same thing with scenes taking in say destiny islands in the trailer happening at the keyblade graveyard in the final game