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A "remake" of sorts of Final Fantasy XV is going to be announced in the near future as Final Fantasy Versus XV, directed by Tetsuya Nomura and overhauled with a team that knows more about Luminous now that XV was made, and with decidedly more KH-like combat. It will encompass the entire original story intended for Versus XIII. It will be teased in the XV (Versus) world in Kingdom Hearts III.
However, before this there will be a game translation of Kingsglaive where you play as Nyx. Both this and XV will serve as the basis for Versus XV. This will happen sometime after the 1st or 2nd installment of the FFVII Remake is released, and development time will be comparatively short since many of the assets are already complete.

Screencap this post.
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How do you know this?
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>>359157317
Interesting.
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I'd rather Nomura be allowed to make a new IP. But like for real this time.
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>>359157998
Square Enix was / is in dire straights and needed a game / franchise to come out in the immediate future that could boost us where we wanted to be. In addition, the Final Fantasy VII Remake was reserved for such a situation. Understanding that Mr. Nomura was pouring his heart and soul into the Versus project made the decision to remove him in favor of Tabata all the more difficult. But, it needed to happen from a financial perspective. Now that XV is out and doing very, very well, negotiations with Mr. Nomura have already begun on allowing him to fulfil his dream project as originally envisioned. Now that assets are made, the engine is proven and understood, and consumers like the universe that's been established, the wheels for Mr. Nomura to revive Versus have already been set in place.

Believe me or don't believe me, this is what's been decided as of this moment.
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>>359158443
What does he intend to bring into this?
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>>359157317
>V15
>Nyx
>Still keep part of 15
Yeah, to the trash it goes.
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>>359158443
>doing very, very well
Based on what exactly?
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>>359158573
As of this moment, the plan is for the Versus XIII project as of 2012-2013 to be translated into a full game. i.e. Noctis being in the city during Insomnia's invasion, key story elements involving a love interest and opposing sides (undecided whether or not Lunafreya will be kept or if Stella will be used to differentiate the project.) The idea of returning to the original design for Regis is also being tossed around to further separate the projects. I'm not well versed enough on the specifics of the story, but as far as I know there will be quite a few differing factors, such as the arranged wedding not being a plot driving device as in XV, as well as the story being a little more concise (as world building was established in XV.)
>>359158771
What I meant was the assets from the project, such as Insomnia. Considering how things are internally, this could very well be scrapped and integrated into the Versus XV project.
>>359158958
Sales numbers in Japan are exceeding what was expected already, especially when you consider mobile gaming is far more popular there than home console gaming. A big factor is that higher ups internally were extremely worried the game was going to perform poorly, but things are looking very good for moving forward with Versus XV.
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>>359159278
You seem to know your way around the company.
If you do get the chance, please suggest the name XVersus for me. It sounds cooler.
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don't you get my hopes up you cock sucker
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>>359159278
Literally never, but it would be cool. I'm sure Square wants to drop this turd and move on as soon as possible, and Nomura is always busy.
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>>359157317
why do I believe you?
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VII remake at psx?
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>>359159278
>Versus XIII project as of 2012-2013 to be translated into a full game
You mean with more magic spells, the badass coat Noctis had in the first trailer, eyes turning red, the near death sight thing and Etro returning to the story? But what about the astrals and the martyrdom plotline of FFXV?
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And also, XVI will be made by a western studio.
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>>359159650
FFXV was Nomura's baby. This was going to be his magnum opus and he poured his very soul into it.
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>when your shitposting is so powerful it becomes memes without even trying
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>>359157317
With how much they've been pushing XV I wouldn't be surprised about this happening at all.
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Channel the meme magic and perhaps we can make this true
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>>359159505
Funny, some people are referring to the project with that handle.
>>359159650
That's part of the reason it almost was cancelled multiple times, only seeing consumer interest brought it back from the dead in the first place.
>>359159701
Well, choose what you believe carefully, but in due time you'll find your answer.
>>359159704
Yes.
>>359159798
As of now, the design from XV is the main design. This could change, but the more likely scenario is that outfit being available as a bonus. The "Eyes that see the light of expiring souls" will be the main focus of the game, yes. Etro is still up in the air, that depends entirely on how development on Type-1 goes. Either way, there will be a goddess that functions similarly. It could possibly be tied back into XV's ending, but that also depends on how separate Mr. Nomura wants this project to be. You'd be surprised how late in development some story changes like that are made.
>>359159947
Absolutely not.
>>359159969
This is understood probably better than anyone by the team that worked on XV, trust me.
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>>359160334
Wouldn't this be a terrible move for the IP?

How would the investors feel because all this shows is a lack of faith in the original product.

I think you're full of shit.
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OP
A CURSE
A CURSE ON YOUR HOUSE AND NAME IF YE TELL LIES please let this be real
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>>359159278
>Want to 15's Regis design
>Want to keep Luna
Confirm a blunder.
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>>359160334
Can you explain the ending for us? Did Noctis and Luna become astrals as Ardyn was originally supposed to, did they revive somehow?
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>>359160334
>Either way, there will be a goddess that functions similarly. It could possibly be tied back into XV's ending
>Luna becomes the goddess in XVersus
>Stella is the FeMC
LET IT HAPPEN, BY GOD. But this would mean that the Lucis line continues despite Noctis being the last. Good god, are the rumors of a 115th king real? How the hell did that happen, who did Noctis stick it to!?
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My bitterness about what Tabata turned Versus 13 into just makes me want to believe your crazy story anon.
Please don't play with my emotions like that.
Versus 13 as we knew it is gone, and it's not coming back.
All we have left thanks to Tabata and the retarded management at Squeenix who left Versus 13 in the state it ended up in, is some goofy, awful looking open world game with nothing but fetch quests, and a terrible tone and story.
The 2011 Versus 13 trailer especially set up such a wonderful taste of what it could have been.
Appropriate tone, coherent art direction, polished combat, just everything looked better.
Why does Squeenix have to constantly sabotage their own games.
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>>359160412
If anything, it shows extreme faith in the IP given not only how much XV is being pushed now but how much it's being accepted by Joe Consumer. More "sequels" (in the eyes of investors) with minimal time in development and an engine / assets that are already made can only be a good thing. How else do you think XIII-2 and Lightning Returns were greenlit?
>>359160447
Luna isn't final and Regis is a decision to both separate the project and reinforce the tone it's trying to convey (as opposed to the regal, fatherly figure Regis in XV.)
>>359160461
Noctis most likely became an astral and Luna most likely became something more. Again, that's entirely up to interpretation at the moment until more story details for Versus XV are solidified because they will most likely connect in some fashion.
>>359160702
Not everything has to occur in the same timeline.
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>>359160724
The only reason Nomura agreed on remaking 7 is because he believed that his vision for 15 would surpass it. He's going to let this go just like that.
But the question remains. What console will it be on? Consoles are dying in Japan. Everything is on mobile these days, but a mobile gaming platform cannot match a stationary one and FF15 is already pushing the limits of the PS4. The original Versus would've needed at least 3 disks. Sure enough Tabata is already adding a second disk's worth of storrage in DLC alone.
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Alright, well It's late and I have to plan for a meeting tomorrow. I hope that you all enjoy XV now that it's (officially) out and look forward to what we have in store.

If you're wondering why this is posted on 4chan, this place is monitored more than you may think. Raw opinions can be scathing, but ultimately helpful when looking for direction.
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No media company in the world would go for this much brand confusion. You didn't even try, OP.
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>>359160970
A sequel will need to focus more on story and characters to make up for reusing assets.
I am not saying that 15 did a bad job with the boys, trust me this is the only game so far where I've felt a connection to the male characters to this degree. I am just saying that graphics and super saiyan god mode will not carry an obvious cash-in.
Maybe a game for Ardyn's backstory, or a XV-2 featuring the XV chicks in skimpy outfits a la X-2, because god knows XII-2 was a clusterfuck (although I loved the gameplay).
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>>359160970
115th king, confirm or deny. PLEASE.
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>>359161329
you sure about that?
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>>359161329
>implying the whole XIII / versus XIII / agito XIII thing wasn't confusing as hell to begin with
you underestimate grorious nippon
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>>359160334
>>The ending to ff 15 was actually an alternate time line where Luna and Noctis get married and live happily
>>ff 15 was a time line where everyone died
>>FF 15 versus by Nomura is a timeline where Luna never existed, Regis doesn't look retarded and Nomura directs the game fully so it's actually good and the gameplay is fun

Dear God has Nomura fooled us all? Please let it be so.
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>>359161329
Ahaha
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>>359161360
XV-2 will have Stella as the MC. I can feel this happening once people go over the honeymoon period for the game. She's likely to be revealed next E3 alongside the full FFVII-R trailer.
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>>359161329
>>11 games across different platforms all needed to understand the story

Are you ABSOLUTELY sure about this?
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>>359161481
I mean I guess SE is the one company in the world that successfully recovered from a shit MMO launch
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Fuck you, OP! How dare you make such outlandish lies.
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>>359161737
not to mention they did this with KH
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When did everyone go from hating Nomura to seeing him as a martyr and savior of RPGs?

Dont care enough about FFXV to argue about it being a good game or not but the idolization of him and Versus is ridiculous given his actual history and what we've been shown of Versus.
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>>359161621
But Stella is a spellcaster. She has a rapier, but primarily uses magic as her means of combat. This means that XV-2 needs to have a ridiculously impressive magic system, the same way XV has Noctis' warps and the Armiger.
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>>359161756
This shit's more believeable than stuff SE has done in the past.
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>>359161798
2009 is over dude, emo goth and Sasuke-tier edginess is retro now.
For fuck's sake, Sasuke is happily married and has a loving family.
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>>359160334
>Want a tied back to XV ending
They want this VersusXV to fail badly it seems.
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>>359161837
well, FF needs a spellcaster MC back. Remember terra?
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>>359161971
No, he means that Luna becomes the goddess of the light of expiring souls and replaces Etro in the Versus-mythos.
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>>359161971
if nomura's at the helm i wouldn't be concerned
he's connected shit to tabata's work in the past, see: crisis core
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I'm gonna have to go with "Lie."
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>>359162140
WRONG!
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>>359160970
Either separate V15 from 15 entirely or never do it at all.

Well, it's not like that matter because 15 will be a flop anyways.
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>>359162284
>completely separate games with the same characters, world, story base
yeah that makes sense
>15 will be a flop
>specifically stated they're going forward with it b/c 15 is doing well
have you considered suicide?
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Can you confirm one thing while you're here, SEleaker?
Who is Ardyn? What is his relation to the king of Lucis 2500 years in the past and is he blood related to Noctis? He was born Ardyn Lucis Caellum, only the king and his crown prince can have that name. Was his own father jealous of him?
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>>359161798
> and what we've been shown of Versus.

How can you honestly watch this and say it's not at least 13, or even 15 times better than the shit we ended up getting?
https://youtu.be/YiIx9VJWSl8
It has an actually consistent tone, an interesting premise between Noctis and Stella being from opposing sides of the war.
Various other bits we heard over the years of what the game was going to cover were also a lot more interesting than what we got.

Even look at the cinematics quality they had in that trailer, which is now over 5 years ago.
Notice how much better and more polished they look compared to the cinematics in XV.
Look at those subtle facial movements.
Now look at the opening intro cinematic to XV and see how uncanny it all looks. I don't know what happened to their CG team between then and now. Probably lack of time seeing how unfinished the rest of XV is.
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>>359162789
nomuras lackeys probably peaced when he was axed. that's likely why scenes from KG were remade and look worse than the same scenes from versus.
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>>359162789
Don't kid yourself. The cinematic sequences in XV are far superior.
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>>359163000
>m-muh grapix
technology-wise yes, but in terms of actually effectively conveying a scene It's not.
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>>359162990
It felt really weird watching that movie.
There were points where the facial capture was absolutely on point, very well done.
And then literally not even a second later in the same scene the next character to talk is very rigid and uncanny.
Just everything about XV and Kingsglaive scream either lack of time or overworked conditions to just meet deadlines, or both.
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>>359159278
>key story elements involving a love interest
You're totally bullshitting. Nomura said Versus was not going to have romance.
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>>359163250
And look at what happened with XV.
OP was obviously alluding to Luna, as that's what she was in XV, and even said they were between Luna and Stella.
Contextual Awareness, anon.
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>>359163098
>>359163000
Even the graphics are worse compared to Versus though. The art style at least. XV's cinematics sucked dicks.
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>>359163098
The only thing Versus Noctis has over XV Noctis is attitude. Versus Noctis is a warrior, he's confident, stoic, ruthless and powerful. Whereas XV Noctis is sort of a pushover twink and you often find yourself asking "where the hell did he learn how to fight?".
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>>359163000
If you mean purely technology wise, yes of course.
5 years advancements in rendering technology and knowledge.
Yet all the other important parts like facial animation and mood and tone took a nosedive.
Why exactly?
As the other anon said too, the old cinematics just did a better job of conveying the scenes shown.
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>>359163484
Don't listen to him. The graphics were better in gameplay and in CG.
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>>359163000
it's almost like nomura is a better director than tabata or something
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Does it keep Somnus? This is important.

>OP already bailed
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>>359163601
It plays at hilariously bad moments. The game doesn't even try to retain the mood you got from E3 2013 or earlier. Somnus doesn't fit this shit game at all.
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>>359163601
>OP already bailed
when you have information like that it's better to restrain yourself then divulge too much
also it would probably keep somnus, just by conjecture
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>>359161163
Shit, I never even noticed that Etro painting in Kingsglaive.

Is this some Kojima-esque misdirection?
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>>359158443
>Now that XV is out and doing very, very well
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>>359163659
>Somnus doesn't fit this shit game at all.

That's a pity. I like Somnus a lot.
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>>359163845
Who/what is Etro?
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>>359163890
did you even read the other posts you blubbering retard
just look at the sales figures in japan, phenomenal for a modern console game
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>>359163942
Look, I saw a XV thread and wanted to shitpost, i'm sorry.
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>there are people on /v/ who think they won't try to whore out every single bit of this game in sequels and DLCs just like they did with XIII
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>>359163895
It makes sense considering the song was composed back when it was still Versus XIII.
XV ended up being a completely different game tone wise, it's only natural a song like that wouldn't fit the game anymore.
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>>359163940
Play final fantasy 13, all of them. Although she dies by 13-2 and gives all her power to Lightning.
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>>359163845
lol I thought it was going to be Seinfeld in the thumbnail
>tfw no Seinfeld jrpg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqpf488XPO0

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS MUSIC
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>>359163940
Look in the Wiki. The lore for the XIII is pretty sweet, but it was presented like shit in the game.
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>>359163940
Goddess of the mythology behind XIII/VersusXIII/Agito XIII (Type-0)
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>>359164116
>>359164205
>>359164221
Just looked it up. Why the hell would she be in that shot? Kinda triggered and confused.
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>>359164186
marketing to the american youth
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>>359164290
M-maybe OP is right
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>>359164290
Because itds habbening etc
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>>359164290
Because Etro was originally part of the 13 FBN mythos. That is until Lightning killed Bhunivelze and reset the entire universe.
Son of a bitch. Is this what they're going for in future FFXV games? Since Lightning reset everything now we get resets ohoy?
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>>359164290
>>359161163
By the way, Stella exists in the XV universe. Look in the background of this shot in KG.
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>>359164186
>titan uppercutting adamantoise
I didn't know how much I wanted this until now.
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Fucking Stella will show up in DLC and hint in an alternate world (versus XIII's universe)
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>>359164552
Don't do this to me.
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>>359164552
You mean the advert? Reaching.
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>>359164552
Oh fuck dude.
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>>359164652
Alternate universes. fuck yeah, xiii-2 all over again.
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>XV (Versus) world in Kingdom Hearts III

I can't believe anyone is dumb enough to believe this. It reminds me of the stupid shit people thought of after the MGSV release.
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>>359157317
>directed by Tetsuya Nomura and overhauled with a team that knows more about Luminous now that XV was made,
>a team that knows more about Luminous now that XV was made,
>Luminous

I sincerely hope Square Enix wouldn't be stupid enough to use that engine again
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>>359164757
>>359164652
The expansion DLC will feature Noctis (from V-XIII) just like the how you can access the open world once more, the Versus XIII world can be accessed like this and have its own story.
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>>359164552
>>359164375
>>359164290
>>359163845
>>359161163
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
FUCKING NOMURA RUSE CRUISE ISN'T OVER YET
THIS IS ONLY THE START AAAAAAAAAAA
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>Luna and Noctis revive as the god/astrals
>Their chosen champion is their daughter, Stella
>She, Luna and Noctis will be playable
Please let this fucking happen, oh god. I'm also certain they will keep Luna in the possible remake since she already exists in the main game. Also, add Cor in the main fucking party.
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>>359164808
it could happen though.
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>>359164652
>Stella will not be alterverse Luna
>instead she'll be the astral spawn of Noctis and Luna
>she'll go to another timeline to flirt with alterverse Noct because she has daddy issues and Luna doesn't share
It'll be a social documentary on how royally fucked girls are in the head.
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As much as I want Nomura to make a Versus XV this probably isnt going to happen
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>>359164808
why the fuck would this not be a thing?
at least noctis and a versus inspired area in hollow bastion?
both are nomura's babies
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It'll just end up becoming FFXVI or something again. ;_;
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>>359164827
For the ease of asset importing and re-use, as well as having a team that now has experience making a game on it?
There's no reason not to. Gotta get the money from dev-time back somehow.
Plus, newer implementations of it may end up being better/less buggy
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>>359157317
>people will actually buy into OPs bullshit
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>>359165004
Nah, mainline titles take far longer to come out. It's been how many years since 13 came out now?
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>>359161571
>Final Fantasy XV (Tabata) is merely one possible timeline. This game has Noctis die and ascend to an Astral State with Luna.

>Final Fantasy Versus XV (Nomura) is another possible timeline with Stella existing in it instead of Luna. The rest of Versus XIII's concepts and character designs are also brought back to make the game that should've been.

I want to believe. It's most likely bullshit, but Dear God, I want to believe.
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>>359164907
so basically Lumina 2.0
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>>359165063
My patience has been tested once before,

Never again
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>>359165254
dear god these games really are alike
"V" is cursed
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...Why? Surely no one has any actual attachment to Versus. It was just a cool idea, maybe, that never was. Far better to just make FFXVI.
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>>359165024
I guess from a cost-cutting perspective, it does make sense. Now I'm wondering if it's reasonable to expect SE to abandon FFXV's universe so soon to start XVI. It doesn't sound terrible so long as they don't fall into the 'creative monopoly' the XIII series had.
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>>359165273
Only MGSV will never get its cut content added back in.
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>>359157317
Fucking people never learn FINAL FANTASY IS DEAD YOU CONSUMER KEK BUCKETS!
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start a petition to make this a thing

serious, someone will take notice
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>>359165315
read the thread
nomura gets to make the game he wants and investors don't need to spend time and money paying people to make a shit ton of new assets, and square now has another "sequel" to the FFXV universe portfolio ($$$ + hype)

win win for all parties
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>>359160702
>who did Noctis stick it to!?
Luna obviously. That would also explain why she can summon weapons (inherited by Noctis) and has yellow orbs power (inherited by Luna). There are also female kings in the past. Like that shuriken chick in Kingsglaive.
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>>359157317
>It will encompass the entire original story intended for Versus XIII
What's the entire original story? Let's hear your best shot
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>>359165518
That's not a chick, that's just the armor.
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>>359165518
But if you're already an astral why would you depower yourself and go to another timeline?
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>>359165552
Love Exposure, except Noctis is dude, Stella is grill, and his dumbass dad dies.
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>>359165641
lol id pay for this
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>>359165573
That's some feminine king then. I could've sworn I saw womanly curves in that armor.
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>>359157317
>directed by Tetsuya Nomura
and nothing of value was lost
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WE WANT THE GTA AUDIENCE
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>>359165726
I love Eminem

>>359165683
Out of the 13 kings, there are at least 2 queens.
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>>359165824
>The king is a queen
Woah, that's progressive.
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>>359165518
>female kings

Then it's not a king. That's called a queen.
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>>359165928
you rang?
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>>359165928
Japan is a bit ahead of the West in that regard
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>more KH-like combat
Fuck no. This shit is bad enough.
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>>359159278
This is XV-kun autism.
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>>359165450
I made one.

Please share it, if you feel it necessary.

https://www.change.org/p/square-enix-let-tetsuya-nomura-direct-final-fantasy-versus-xv
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>>359166269
>Mad
Modern fans are trash
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>>359157317
Would be great if we actually got the game they showed off years ago, but that's never gonna happen. They'll probably make a 1 or 2 sequels - or maybe a prequel - if sales are good before moving onto XVI.
Having XV and then a few years later XV: Sorta Mostly Different Edition just wouldn't go down well.
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>>359166325
Really well written, signed
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>>359166420
people would eat that shit up, are you kidding me
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>>359166325
>the game he had been working on and planning for years was taken away and turned into something driven by a need for money, rather than something driven by an artistic vision.

I would change this slightly to be less derisive toward the company, because that's not a good look if you want them to acknowledge it. Arrange the post in a way that we graciously acknowledge XV being a thing, but we still want to see what Nomura actually envisioned.

It's a good start though, thanks for having it.
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I hope you retards realize you're posting in XV-kun aka Bazztek shitpost thread.

>>359160334 is a dead giveaway that it's him.
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>>359166887
Updated to be more gracious (as I am enjoying XV right now, it's just not what we were shown for the better part of a decade.)
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>>359167223
XV-kun is toxic and spouts shit to everyone, that's definitely not him.
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>>359158443
That didn't answer anon's question.

How do you know this?
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>>359167513
Read his other posts, he implies he's working with some team at SE that has this info.
Everyone look at the XV team signature list and look for all of the american sounding names, probably one of them.
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Source: OP's ass. Versus XIII is dead, deal with it.
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>>359157317
I fucking wish dude

I'm so damn salty over what Tabata did to Versus
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>>359167641
Maybe. But remember. Square Enix re-did FF14. There is nothing stating that it cannot happen. Its plausible at best, but certainly not ass level.
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>>359167596
>he implies
So it's fucking nothing.

OP, post your employee badge (you can censor your face and name you fuck) with a timestamp.
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>>359167724
man fuck toei for ruining this frame
they made him have an angry scowl instead of a somber pity and I will never get over it
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>>359167739
This is why the petition can be a huge help, SE will listen to feedback if the demand is strong enough. We just have to send the message
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>>359167739
FFXIV was a failed MMO. Quite different.
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>>359167830
tl;dr, share the fuck out of this anon's >>359166325
>>359166325
>>359166325
petition
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>>359167739
That's because 14 is an MMO meant to retain players for thousands of hours for subscription shekels, whereas single player games have got the most of your money after purchase.
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>>359167749
he's asleep
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>>359167739
The only reason they redid 14 was due to it being a literal blunder. An ok game with a 8.2 average and good pre-order numbers isn't a blunder. It's like you have no idea how truly terrible XIV 1.0 was.
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>>359167889
What this anon said also applies to why FF XIV was a rare instance. They wanted XIV to be the game they could have on the back burner to keep funds coming jn for all their other projects. 1.0 was so garbage that not even the most dedicated grindtard would put up with it.
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>>359167938
mmos are all blunders
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>>359168242
That just further proves my point that you have no idea of why 1.0 had to be rectified
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>>359167804
Like this game, nothing is sacred when a retardedly out of touch corporation is at the helm

Let me specify: corporations themselves aren't evil, it's the retards that run them that are.
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>>359168521
So when is Nomura going to make his own Outer Heaven?
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>>359168682
To be honest, I don't think Death Stranding looks good or has an interesting concept. MGSV wasn't that fun gameplay-wise either, and got old really fast. I've never finished a Kojima game because of this.
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>>359168682
He probably could do well if he joined Kojipro and had his own division.
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>>359168682
>yfw they join forces.
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>>359168742
Death Stranding dosen't look good because its literally just a cinematic trailer.

It dosent exist until there's actual gameplay
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>>359168742
Funny, I have over 500 hours in MGSV because I find the gameplay so enjoyable. Try not using the tranq on every mission, or infiltrate from another direction?

To each his own, I guess.
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>>359166325
I really hope you guys share this.
It's the year of the meme magic.
Kek made Trump president, and now we can kekstart the making of the Versus XIII we've been shown before it became the XV we have today.
This is the time, get this out there, I'll do my part too.
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>>359168849
>implying it hasn't already happened
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>>359168875
Not that guy but games that require you to gimp yourself just to be challenging are poorly designed games.

MGS lost its way the very moment it decided having 100 items that do the same thing was good design, it started somewhere around MGS3.
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XV-2 starring as Stella looking for her mom and dad who became gods :^) They get reunited and you can play as Luna, Noctis and Stella. Their mission is to stop the ultimate evil in the story. I do remember a mod on xv forums implying there's a 115th heir. Since XV's ending hints that Luna and Noctis got revived by the gods, they probably shagged in the afterlife or wherever they are.
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>>359168682
Never, he made KH pop so even if SE ditch him Disney will save his sorry ass, anyways.
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>>359168962
It's not gimping yourself, it's using the literally hundreds of other weapon choices in the game that the game lets you develop, and watching the enemies adapt to that playstyle, making you need to further adapt.
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>>359169042
If I can clear the entire game using the same tactics and loadout from the first level, all these many options are superficial at best. They're not actually needed in anyway.
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>>359167938
>rare instance
heh
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>>359168875
Don't get me wrong, I got like 50 hours out of the game

My preferred playing style was being a cardboard box ninja and breaking everyone's neck and using rocket launchers at inappropriate times.

That said, it just didn't tickle my nuggies if you get what I mean. Kojima is good for scratching a specific itch, I imagine.
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>>359168928
>they both show up on stage at E3, after both said they wouldn't be going that year
>present a trailer for a new IP they're working on together
>announce that it'll be releasing the following week

There's no way these two aren't up to something.
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What the fuck is with /v/'s dicksucking of Nomura lately?
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>>359168928
>>359169179
They do have dinner a lot, don't they...
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>>359168997
Noctis (can summon armiger) = Night
Luna (yellow orbs magic and has a connection with the gods) = Moon
Stella (can summon armiger w/ yellow orbs power and has a connection with the gods) = Star

This honestly would've been a perfect family.
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>>359169414
it's like op is right or something
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>>359169243
I wonder if they joke about how they both got kicked off their own projects
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>>359169490
Alright, what future game do I have to sacrifice to make Versus XV a thing?
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>>359169627
Automata
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>>359169627
Nioh
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>>359169490
I honestly want it to happen. It is implied that Noctis and Luna become gods too which would make Stella a special being as well. I would love a game where you could play as them, god, that would've been awesome and much more interesting than what we got.
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Square Enix employee here, OP is lying.

Screencap this post.
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>All these faggot that want Versus to some kind of tie in with XV
Faggot, this shit is not gonna have a sequel or reboot with Nomura vision, deal with it.
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>>359161163
was going to buy xv today, now I'll patiently wait for the actual game instead of wasting 60€ on an unfinished turd.
Really sick of these shitty rereleases, remakes, dlcs, season passes
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>OP lays out detailed explanations
>"lol no he lying!!1"
wonder who I'm more liable to believe
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>>359170703
>trust a literal who that claim to be employee of game company
Never learn aren't you?
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>>359170942
here's your (You)
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Bros, what if XV turned out to be a prequel of the real game?
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>>359157317
Luminous isn't the problem, the shocking amount of design blunders is the problem
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>>359157317
> Its a "/v/ can't handle their game wasn't what they'd hoped and are head canoning their way to success" thread
Every time
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>>359159278
>>359158443
>>359157317
>people will believe this
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>>359171363
Or Noctis having a dream while asleep in the back of the car.
I'd take anything over this being real.
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>>359165552
>>Implying anyone can understand Nomura's mind
If anything it won't be the crap that ff 15 was.
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>>359157317
FFXV-kun is going through the 5 stages of grief and just reached bargaining

>2 weeks ago
Denial over the incoming trainwreck
>Last 2 days
Lashing out in anger
>Today
Bargaining by pretending there's more to the game than there is
>Next few days
Depression
>Never ever
Acceptance
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>>359170703
>wonder who I'm more liable to believe
If you believe someone on 4chan without any semblance of proof then you deserve to be disappointed
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>>359172151
It's heading more on the prequel route. Noctis and Luna are the new gods in Eos. (Luna representing Eos and Noctis is a new god figure) Another catastrophe has happened and their new chosen champion is Stella who also happens to be their child. Final battle is them joining forces together and all 3 of them will be playable.
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This is some full blown autism right here.

Just accept the game isn't the game you hoped it was and move on. Making up an imaginary "fixed" version of the game is insanity.
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>>359172550
XV-kun was shitting on vsxiii though.
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>>359172742
He flip flops all the time anon
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>>359172718
Except it's what SE did with ff14 1.0
It's even profitable for them to do so.
Release a shitty disappointing game, drones will buy it anyway before realizing their mistake.
Apologize and promise them "the new and improved!" and they buy that too.
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I can see it happening. They expanded on XIII for years, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did something like that for XV again.
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>>359173005
Not even REMOTELY comparable.

>Main series
>Single payment
>Huge development costs
>Huge marketing costs

>MMO
>Continuously payment
>Mid tier development costs
>Marketing takes care of itself
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>>359173291
>implying mmos have lower development costs that singleplayer games
oh anon
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>>359173005
That one happens because 14v1 was such a cluster fuck and people trash like there's no tomorrow, this one despite being a crap of a game still not reach that level of a disaster yet,not to mention SE want to get out of this V13/XV as faster as possible and that is the reason they put Tabata in charge of the project to begin with because dude get shit done fast despite the shit quality.

>>359173174
Not when they already pull 7R and there's still KH3 to finish.
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>>359173291
The point is the development costs didn't have to be as high for this game as they were. There's games that have been in development for less than 3 years and have a fraction of the budget that put this game to shame.
It was just a huge clusterfuck, doesn't mean they couldn't do something else if they were actually competent.
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>>359173536
>If they were actually competent
SE is fucking incompetent.
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>>359168849
Not entirely implausible.

They're actually pretty good friends, and occasionally go out to eat and discuss all the media they've recently consumed.

Nomura also appeared as a guest on Hidechan! Radio Episode #77 way back in 2006: http://www.kjp.konami.jp/gs/hideoblog/2006/06/000144.html

But I also think Nomura sort of rules the roost at SE, so I doubt he feels any pressure to leave.
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>>359169552
Well, Kojima did tell Nomura that he wanted him to remake FFVII back in 2011.

And AFAIK, the transition of Nomura from director of FFXV to director of FFVIIR started all the way back in 2013.
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You're all insane if you think this is happening btw, it's the headcanon of a lunatic
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>>359173893
Nomura didnt know he was directing FF7R until the day it was announced.
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>>359173920
I believe him
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>>359173893
Nomura didn't get kicked out of anything.
SE wanted KH3 to happen sooner and made him move on to that.
People love to spin this shit as if there's always some inner turmoil happening.
Their priorities just change between one game to the next and they move their developers around.
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>>359174075
He effectively got kicked off Versus and was pretty pissed about it, he vented passive-aggressively when talking about Kh3
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>>359174075
How long ago did he switch? Was it long enough for the new lead to completely ruin the original vision for the game?
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>>359173967
Not true.

He was heavily involved in preproduction with Yoshinori Kitase, but didn't know that he was formally being considered the director of the project until he saw it in an internal presentation video. That was very early in development.

Took me like 2 minutes to find the information in an interview with Nomura from mid-2015.
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>>359174232
>but didn't know that he was formally being considered the director of the project until he saw it in an internal presentation video
thats what I was talking about
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>>359174232
That's what he just said, chump
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>>359174003
Then you're a moron
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>>359174207
I feel like Nomura has more to do with the current FFXV than people are willing to admit.
They act as if he's some god of a developer and can do no wrong.
Have you ever looked at the convoluted mess of a plot that is KH? It is literally catered to autistic man children.
It's almost on the level of Sonic.
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>>359174418
You wont be saying that when he's proven right
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>>359174442
You don't know Tabata if you think that, nor have you been keeping up with Versus and what it was going for.
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>>359166325
Give attention here, anons.

As largely hilarious as OP's claims for SE's future business decisions, it really isn't that far out. Fuck, nintendo was selling 3 versions of what amounted to the exact same game for EVERY GENERATION SINCE THE 90's, are still doing this, and make out like bandits every time.

Ultimate joke would be having planned this kind of stunt years in advance just to be able to milk all the assets and dev-time to the fullest extent, and you know what? That's brilliant. It's a win-win situation for everyone.

SE, you tricky dogs. We will all buy the everloving shit out of your games, and this you know too well.

All fucking hail. Anon is genuinely amused & impressed with this one.
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>>359173967
>Annonce
Yes but not in E3 2015 but when Kitase named him as director when the project was announce within the company in 2013-2014.
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>assume this is bullshit
>remember what happened with XIII
Anything could happen bros
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>>359174472
Nobody knows what it was going for. But based on how much sense the plot of KH makes, it's pretty much in line with what we have now with FFXV.
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>>359174661
You're just saying over and over again that you dont know shit.

KH was always a childrens' game, with Versus Nomura went out of his way to say that he wanted a more mature approach to Final Fantasy, and this is obvious as fuck if you look at the trailers and what dialogue remains of the game.
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>>359174207
We actually have solid information on the transition due to a 4chan insider, actually. Stuff posted earlier this year with a shitload of spoilers for the game we now know are true.

Nobody believed him at the time.


Nomura had intended for Versus XIII to be a trilogy, but following Nomura's original vision, the game likely wouldn't have been ready for release until 2017 or 2018.

They decided to transition him off of FFXV because they wanted a shorter, self-contained title, and because they wanted him to focus on KH3 and FF7R.

The transition from Nomura to Tabata happened gradually over the course of 2013. At the time of E3 2013, they were still using a proof of concept build based on Nomura's ideas, and Nomura directed the trailer, but by that time Tabata had already started work and was in the process of making changes to the game.

The game did undergo considerable changes in the transition from Versus XIII to FFXV. Most notable being that it changed from a trilogy into a self-contained story, which required considerable rewrites. They also reworked the cutscene-heavy first chapter of the game into the movie Kingsglaive, and then made further alterations to the script, story, and characters based on the development of Kingsglaive.

As of June 2016 they were still rewriting and rerecording dialogue based on feedback from testers and focus groups, and the poster had suspicions that they wouldn't be able to make the September 30 release date.
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I know OP is bullshit but I don´t like the way they treated Nomura´s project, they must hate FFXV universe that much to trying to avoid making sequels for it even though they made sequels of Lightning, fixed FFXIV and FF7R will be episode-like.
There are even rumours about a FFX-3 continuing that disgusting FFX-2.5 thing.

Idk I think Tabata is pretty bad with story-telling, yeah I know about Nomura but atleast versus was eye-catching and seemed way more unique.

If nips blamed Baba for Tales of the same should happens with Tabata.
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>>359174661
Uh, Tabata himself said XV under him is completely different from XV under Nomura, anon. Nomura fuck-off for good after he got kick out of the project. And the reason XV has been critisize is because the latter half is extremely rush and incomplete, not that Tabata's vision is bad or anything.
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>>359174776
If it's a children's game, shouldn't the plot to KH be even simpler?
Except it's got all this edgy shit that means nothing in it.
The DARKNESS. The power your your HEART. KEYBLADE.... KEYBLADE...
It means nothing, it's like a 12 year old wrote it.
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>>359174790

Holy shit what a disaster. Idk why they keep insisting to harm FF name like this, I hope when Nomura is free of FF7R and KH3 he can reboot it or something, after all FFXV was suppossed to be a spin off so it would make sense the FF Versus XIII-1, -2 and -3, Heck we had FFXIII-2 and LR and Type-0 will have a sequel, why the heck not Versus when it was the most wanted?
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>>359175105
I take it you never got into DBZ, Bleach, Naruto or One Piece

all of them being extremely convoluted pieces of shit, but each an every one of them popular with children.
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>>359175187
One Piece is good though
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>>359175312
riiiiight
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>>359174908
>they must hate FFXV universe that much to trying to avoid making sequels

I think they were just trying to create a clear distinction between FFXV and FFXIII, which included deliberately avoiding anything that would make it seem like they wanted to repeat what they did with the "Lightning Saga."

It behooves them to milk the property as much as they can now that it's doing well. It was an incredibly expensive and time-consuming game to get made and marketed, and those resources can be spread around now to help recoup costs.

Of course, I think OP is also full of shit because I don't see SE wanting to spread Nomura any thinner than he already is. FFVIIR is surely a top priority and its development will take many years, considering its episodic nature.
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>>359175167
Hopefully we will. The only difference is that Noctis and Luna are the new gods in Versus >>359169414 This would be really interesting especially if they kept the dark tone that Versus had and make them playable.
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>>359175342
What's wrong with it
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I think those japs are just getting shitter at making video games.
The good games coming out of there are getting fewer and far between as time goes on.
They should stick to their pedo comics.
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>>359175516
I think Versus XV should have no connection to XV and simply be a reboot of that same setting and characters.
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>>359175167
such fucking delusion from nomurafags. He was fired from the project because his "vision" was so fucking horrible it could not be allowed to see the light of day. Whatever we got from Tabata, what Nomura was creating was 100 times worse.

He probably tried to make levels composed entirely out of zippers
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>>359175105
KH writing is Shounen-tier with Nomura Chuuni shit in it.
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>>359158443
>Square Enix was / is in dire straights and needed a game / franchise to come out in the immediate future that could boost us where we wanted to be
Besides making a giant bank on their mobile titles and their mmo subs.
DIRE STRAIGHTS
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>>359175735
Nevermind their publishing and merchandising wings.
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>>359175629
The autists defending him just have a huge hardon for KH and don't want to accept that their lord and saviour is a hack.
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>>359175735
While he's full of shit he's not wrong that they need some big name title to redeem their credibility.
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>>359175735
Not just that, but if they were in such dire straight they wouldn't spend 10 years sinking money into this garbage.
They're just incompetent at making good games at this point, people can't accept that.
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What is this new fanfiction? I think a lot of people here are still in denial because the game turned out to be shit or the way they didn't want it to be. I don't see them expanding the game even further other than producing a ton shit of DLCs.
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This is pure autism, holy shit, this is pathetic.

You will get your Nomura special soon, with all the cringeworthy, chuuni diaogue you could ask for, in not one, but two games.

So get over it already, damnit you guys are a sad bunch.
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>>359174469
He won't be proven right because he's fabricating it
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>>359174790
>No proof

Wew
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>>359176738
Plus, they already have the script from Nojima. If they wanted to release the same game, they shouldn't have changed it in the first place. It doesn't make sense.
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>>359177254
>Implying Tabata and XV is not already cringe fest.
The amount of Chuuni shit must be something if Nomura is in charge, lol.
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>>359177546
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1233181

Might be screencaps or an archived 4chan thread but I'm not in the mood to look for them.
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>>359177654
Nomura wanted 3 games, so yeah there was no way to do it in one game. They had to make a movie for the invasion, anime for backstory, and DLC chapters for the party members for more backstory/character development
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>>359178310
That isn't really my point. If they really intended to keep the same story that Versus had, they shouldn't have scrapped it in the first place. Even if they had the movie, anime or DLCs for it, they should've kept the same script that it originally had.
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>>359178589
The script was made for 3 games, there was no keeping all of it. No one really knows why it took from 2006 to 2011 to even show Versus off in video form, but that was when it was canned and turned into XV. Nomura was still in charge of XV for a time at this point
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>>359157317
Just to throw this out there, Nomura specifically said a while back that KH3 won't have any Final Fantasy-based worlds in it.
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>>359178912
Everyone in their right mind would know that OP is just full of shit. It's just getting even sadder at this point.
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I'm really enjoying this game. Fun filled adventure to start, and then serious shit during the later half.
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No

Nomura already went full retard & decided to turn it into a roadtrip long before Tabata came into the picture

FFXV is the game Nomura wanted, it's just it turned out to be shit because Nomura spent 10 years on it & couldn't put forward a concrete vision early on, so in the end we got a mess, it's called development hell
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>>359160334
Is this VersusXV going to be a true entirely explorable open world like FFXV was supposed to be?
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>people shitting on the game have not found the hidden summons

top fuckin kek
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>>359158443
This sounds a little far-fetched, but fuck it, if we can get a great FFXV game let them do it.
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>>359179906
Nigger, there are no hidden summons. The guidebook confirms that there are only 6 summons in the game and you can't even use 2 of them (Bahamut and Ifrit). Shiva, Titan, Ramuh and Levi are all conditional.
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>>359157317
This is even more retarded than that Bloodborne 2 soundtrack 'leak' thread someone made not so long ago and you all are literal mouthbreathing mongoloids if you believe a single word of this crap. This is so dumb it's fucking hilarious.
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>>359181696
OP lost his mind once he found out the game isn't what he wanted anymore.
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>>359182193
He's just a person who slipped from his dimension to ours. It can happen to you too. Glitches in the matrix occur from time to time.
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Yeah, and MGSV's chapter 3 is coming reeeal soon. Trust me on this guys, I'm an insider at Konami.

There is no basis to even assume FFXIII Verses would have been good or better than what we got with FFXV anyways.
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>>359181696
Literally 50% of the posters here thinks this shit is real.
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>>359158443
"Dire straits", not "Dire Straights", you fucking retards.
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>>359157317

This is totally not happening. Spending another several million to save a mainline game, where they have another director come in and change up the storyline already written (which was exactly how it became a mess in the first place)? They're just going to move on from FFXV and be more cohesive with FFXVI



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