>>112329192
second

>>112329192
Yes. Even by just purchasing my neighbor's lawnmower for 30$, somewhere in the world and unnamed ((man))'s nose will grow outward by 3mm.

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>>112329192
Not, that would be cronyism. Capitalism has not been seen at its full form since Reagan. The problem is cronyism making more and more regulations and putting more taxation on top of it. What countries need to be full on capitalist is a flat tax of say between 20-45%

>>112329192
Yes, and any promoter of free market capitalism is a kike puppet.

Capitalism is a buzzword and commie propaganda - there is non, maybe for black markets. We have state corporatism. And (((monopolists))) on legal tender in the private sector.

Also, Austrian economics, read it - bye

>>112329598
Damn...
Really makes me think

All you need is these documentaries:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4wU9ZnAKAw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvKjsIxT_8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyV0OfU3-FU

What uneducated hole did you crawl out of to conflate economics and capitalism? Economics is a study, capitalism is a system.

Also, if anyone talks about the Austrians school, it's a surefire way to tell they know nothing about economics.

>>112329192
The fact that there are many economic philosophies makes me doubt if economics can be taken seriously.

>>112329686
>I-it isn't TRUE capitalism!

Cronyism is literally the natural outcome of capitalism, just like a totalitarian state is the outcome of communism. Once a few people get to the top, they use their money and influence to put gates in place to keep everyone else out.

>>112329686
A 20%-45% tax is way more than needed 10-15% federal and 5-10% local would be plenty. The free market will take care of the rest. There is no need for such a large government. What is the government needed for beyond defence?

>>112330052
This unironically made me think

>>112330052
Huh.

I hadn't really put that together before.

I'm with this guy >>112330233

Economics is completly fake.

The currency every nation uses is called "fiat currncy" and can be printed as much as needed with no restrictions. Doing so will devalue the currency, but the vast masses are too busy and dumbed down to recognise this as a problem. In fact, many people believe that prices going up of food, houses etc. is demostrative of a booming / healthy economy, when in fact, it is a sign of your currencys value going down.

for eg, your house doesnt spawn a new floor, or new land around it, yet the price goes up typically. This is because the units of value you use to measure the value of your house is going down as more are printed it effectively dilutes the value of each single unit - £ or $ or what ever.

>>112329686
>Capitalism has not been seen at its full form since Reagan
it was close in 1850. none after.

you can't get "redpilled" on economics instantly

The main economist you need to read is Gottfried Feder. He drafted the National Socialist's original 25 points and was behind the core of national socialist economic policy.

FOr the most part he based his economic policies on the then current mainstream economic schools i America (started by Alexander Hamilton and the American School) and Germany (started by the German Historical school, namely Fredrich List) which relied on nationalism, protectionism, infrastructure, public utilities, wtc in order to build up their countries so they could stand up to the British Empire. Another key historical and political figure to focus on is Henry George, the man who more or less ended the gilded age in America by focusing on the key issues of classical economics and paved the way for the "progressive era", under Teddy Roosevelt, Taft, etc.

Modern writers and economists you needs to read today are

Michael Hudson
Randall Wray
Bill Black
Mike Whitney
James Petras

under no circumstances should you read Mises or any bullshit Austrian site and assume they know what they are talking about, 9 out of 10 times they are wrong.

>>112329192

>""""""""Free market""""""""""
>Le magic invisible hand
>the present financial system is totally natural you stupid fucking goy, we can't control it, oy vey sorry you can't afford to buy a home

Lotta good goys ITT

Capital is actual value. Like an actual physical asset.

The fiat currency that circulates in the economy is "fiat" and can be created at will.

We dont live in a capitalist society. Our moneytary system is a socialist one.

Your working ANY job doesn't add value to the economy - it adds debt.

All currency in circulation is DEBT.

If the national debt was paid off there would be no currency in circulation.

The more the economy grows the larger the national debt grows.

Economic Collapse is a mathematical certainty.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

>itt nobody understands capitalism

>>112330917
>repeating what his liberal (((prof))) told him
good goy

>Is capitalism a tool of the (((globalists))) used to control us?
You are so fucking retarded if you think this

>>112331397
>repeating what (((Mises))), ((Rand))), (((Rotherbard))), and (((Friedman))) tell you verbatim

best goy

Leftwing systems are inefficient and prone to corruption.

They always will devolve to oppressive regimes so a few remain rich while everyone starves.


But the problem with right wing systems like capitalism is that in general it has been co-opted by the rich so they want a system that only benefits them.

That is why you never see capitalist/right wingers talk about quality of life, fair work standards, worker rights, etc.

The ideal system is a pro-worker/average people capitalist market.

>>112330052
This. Also another thing that you might want to consider, theoretically of course. There are four different types of economies.

1. A free market economy where there are no regulations and supply and demand fulfill the needs of the citizens of a state. Ironically, America is less of a free market economy than our country maple-bro. Best example is Switzerland.

2.A Command Economy is made of an authority that makes supply and demand based on what the authority considers is the need of the state. USSR and North Korea are prime examples of this.

3.. Traditional Economies, supply and demand is usually dictated by the traditions of the society or state. A good example of this is an Amish community.

4. Mixed Economies are a combination of all the different economies and it is usually said that every economy is a mixed economy.

As the quoted anon said; there is a contrary outcome of both positives and negatives when operating in any style of economy.

>>112329192
taxation is theft

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>>112331529
>he doesn't know that wages rise with consumer price inflation


this is why libertarians are so useless

The real problem is the increase of prices "independent" of consumer price inflation i.e. rising rates of real estate, healthcare, education, and other financial goods that get people in debt.

>>112331233
Yes, in microeconomics. In Macroeconomics it is the tools necessary for production. One of the three essential resources which includes labor and land.

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>>112331837
public debt doesn't matter

only private debt is relevant

>>112332148
Government is based on force

feel free to start your own government without getting invaded and overthrown.

>>112331964
And the "ideal economy" is subjective, relative to its society.

Some races naturally gravitate towards certain cultural mindsets. And economies are more successful when they adapt to their people.

>>112332271
>he doesn't know that fiat is the most utterly severe cause of inflation

>>112331233
didn't read the rest of what you said. Yes precisely! The Collapse you are referring to is a depression.

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yep, "property ownership" is a spook

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>>112329192
Yes. The end result of capitalism is cronyism and oligarchy especially when you have a race of tribalistic bankers who control all of the money in the world.

>>112332450
>AHrVlQqd

Dankeschon

It's not capitalism anymore because banks get bailed out so they can behave pretty much how they want.

It's has much more in common with socialism/communism. It just differs in that the main beneficiaries are not the poor it's the rich and speculators.

The left bailed them out. Not that the mainstream right wouldn't have. But it just adds more insult to injury coming from the deranged morons that is the left.

>>112331771
This

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>>112332450
fiat money results in consumer price inflation which means wages rise with prices

the real problem is when a good rises faster than Consumer price Inflation (CPI). This results in mass private debt, which unlike public debt, is bad for the economy.


In america the biggest causes of private debt are real estat, education, healthcare.

This is largely caused by financial firms giving cheap credit to consumers creating massive private debt bubbles (like the 2008 sub prime scandal, which was mainly wall street jews lending out cheap loans to Mexicans and then omitting mass financial fraud and repackaging those loans as triple AAA rated debt on the market)

This has nothing to do with fiat currency and everything to do with lack of regulation of banks and an obsession with allowing giant debt bubbles.

The solution is tight credit for private lending and mass government spending in public infrastructure, military, utilities, education, projects, etc to spur the economy.

>>112332427
Surely the more public debt the greater the rate of devaluation of the currency we all use. The public finances and the private individuals use THE SAME currency.

and taxation IS theft. Any interaction with the state has to be VOLUNTARY otherwise you gonna get a very disgruntled populace.... providing they are thinking and aware of right from wrong

>>112332286
You can trade debt.

>>112333034
>"our jewish fantasy coin currency has intrinsic value r-right prof. zuckerstein?"

Fractional-reserve banking is a mathematical meme lad. We are never paying back nominal debt back. Are you that ignorant?

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>>112333078
>devaluation of the currency we all use
Which is irrelevant beyond giving you an advantage as a net exporter of goods which means more domestic jobs

>The public finances and the private individuals use THE SAME currency

assuming they are in the same country they legally have to.
>taxation IS theft

All government is force

Don't like it? Try to build your own country with your AR-15 then (as if you could get one legally in the UK)

>Any interaction with the state has to be VOLUNTARY

If interaction with a state is voluntary then the state ceases to exist. It might as well be a book club.

>a very disgruntled populace

Whoever wants to rebel can try

>>112333034
They know what the problem is. The "regulation" of which you speak would cause immeduate economic collapse, which is a mathematical certainty anyway.

Free markets (REAL free markets) need no regulation and will regulate them selves if currency is backed by value, or eveyonr is correctly educated to recognise money creation as devaluing the currency and to have their pay increased in line with that devaluation to stay afloat as it were

>>112329192
that is what the commies wants you to believe, all part from a jews plan towards the awakening of the URSS

>>112333672
>Free markets (REAL free markets) need no regulation and will regulate them selves if [pointless garbage after this point]

If you take an entry level course in micro or macro, you'll be introduced to many shortcomings of a free market society. You would spend a great amount of time in such a course examining market failures and their remedies.

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Capitalism is an economic stepping stone toward post-scarcity tech.
If left without any impetus to improve itself and make way for post-scarcity tech, capitalism will simply consume and expand repeatedly, too shortsighted to plan ahead and ultimately dashing itself upon the rocks once everything's been consumed.

>>112334002
>200 years later
>s..surely it w-will dash itself upon the rocks any day now

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>>112333517
>jewish fantasy coin currency

You realize that your libertarian gold fetishism is a common jewish stereotype right?


>Fractional-reserve banking is a mathematical meme

Fractional reserve banking doesn't exist

all money is created out of nothing. If the country doesn't control the currency then the banks control the currency. And when the banks control the currency they create endless bubbles that wipe out the savings of their depositors.

This happened again and again in America under the "wildcat" banks in the 19th century.

Do you like having your savings wiped out every 3 years? Then adopt wildcat banking.,

>>112333672
>immeduate economic collapse,

regulation would fix our economy by purging the parasitic jewish financial elements and replacing them with productive (STEM) enterprise.

The west had a production based economy until Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan began deregulating wall street in the 70s and 80s.

After that the US abandoned protectionism (which had existed since the 1790s under Hamilton) and began exporting jobs overseas while importing millions of illegal Mexicans to work for low wages (Reagan's 1984 amnesty)

>>112329686
>It's not true capitalism because it doesn't produce the results I want!
Lol you faggot
Same shit the commies come out with

>>112333970
I wouldnt trust those couses at all, friend.

Who writes the curriculum?

Of course they are going to play down the free market thing.

In reality free markets work and regulated or manipulated market fail. 100%. Guaranteed. Every time.

Poor service or product in a free market simply wont survive and will be forced to improve by natural means

>>112334304
>Fractional
yeah thats the nominal meme here faggot dont sidetrack

you have to deprive state monopoly on legal tender to end that jew bubble

>>112329773
Holy fuck you are retarded, bosche. Capitalism is making money off a cache of money, I do it every day. The fact that I unfortunately have to pay taxes does not change this. You really are a dumb fucking teenage kraut.

>>112329192
So basically the United States?

>>112334591
>deprive state monopoly on legal tender

That only creates numerous jew bubbles that can never be ended.

Banks create money from nothing. Without a central bank you simply have numerous banks creating their own bubbles endlessly, wiping out the savings of their customers every few years.

This has already been put into practice before in the US, and it doesn't work.

>>112334716
nope that would be called interest you massive burger.

capitalism is contract individualism between two or more consensual parties

>>112334716
This system of "making money off a cache of money" is unsustainable and BOUND to fail.

Its a mathematical certainty.

Read Austrian economics like the man said.

>>112334571
You don't need to trust the courses, you need to critically look at the information. My mentioning courses at all instead of self research is because you clearly can't do the latter, which is much harder than the former. As I said though, there's tons of market failures which all occur in a free market.

>Poor service or product in a free market simply wont survive and will be forced to improve by natural means

Your view is too narrow. Try thinking of scenarios which wouldn't be able to adjust in timely fashion or at all.

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>>112329192
The only useful way to think about economics is how do you produce more from what you have.

I'll outline an easy, tangible, concrete path towards 20%+ GDP growth, well beyond anything that any school of thought in the public domain offers you. Importantly, it won't depend upon abstractions or theories (lower/higher taxes), only actionable (and falsifiable!) plan.

Is it possible to build a space elevator today?

Yes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qezLhypA0Y

The key idea is the Orbital Ring version of the space elevator, not the geosynchronous tether concept you are familiar with.

See, for example, Paul Birch's writings:

http://www.orionsarm.com/fm_store/OrbitalRings-I.pdf

The orbital ring only requires tethers about 300 kilometers long which is technically feasible with common material like steel, but ridiculously straightforward with better and already available material like kevlar.

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>>112335209
There are some important questions. First, how much would it cost to do something like this?

We need to send about 160 million kilograms of material into space (See Birch's boot strap estimates in part 2: http://www.orionsarm.com/fm_store/OrbitalRings-II.pdf)

We have rockets available at $2000/kg costs to LEO today in "mass production" mode, which is only about 10-20 launches per year. Compared with the couple thousand launches necessary for a space elevator, $2000 is an unreasonably high upper bound for launch costs.

We also need to include the cost of materials. A space elevator is about 98% steel and aluminum, 1% kevlar, and 1% other such as superconducting magnets. Most of the mass (98%) cost around $1/kg, with an average cost per kilogram of no more than about $10 per kilogram.

Summing the above up, we get about $430 billion in launch costs plus another $1-2 billion in material costs.

In other words, we can have a space elevator for less than $450 billion - significantly less than one year worth of DoD spending, one bank bailout, many times less than a variety of pointless wars, etc. This is well within our reach financially in other words.

>>112334304
Fractonal Reserve banking exists.

But if you say it doesnt - then theres no problem, right?

Problem solved.

That was easy

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>>112335260
What do we get in return for this $450 billion investment?

Virtually unlimited value. For example, with a space elevator we can reliably launch our nuclear waste into the sun. We've spent $100 billion building a waste repository in Nevada, but it was ultimately decided not to even use it. Now it costs only a dollar or two per kilogram to get rid of all of the nuclear waste in the world.

Second, we have immediate access to viable asteroid mining industry. Because the cost of delivering payloads to LEO drops to about $1/kilogram, we can not retrieve asteroids with trillions of dollars worth of minerals for mere tens millions of dollars in addition to having an easy viable way of returning those resources back to the surface.

We acquire the ability to deploy profitable solar power in orbit above cloud cover and with the ability to return said power back to the surface with near zero loss by running power transmission cables down the elevator.

Just how profitable?

With increased luminosity in space, enhanced exposure time, and the ability to deliver base loads, solar panels pay for themselves in only 1-2 years while having a 20 year life time.

In other words, if you put $5 trillion of solar panels into space, you get your $5 trillion back by the end of year two and a $5 trillion income stream each year thereafter.

In other words, the US could cut everyone's taxes, both personal and business, income, capital, death, or otherwise, all to 0%, not even cut any benefits or current spending, and pay off the national debt within a decade.

>>112334980
a contract cannot exist unless there is a state mechanism (force) to ensure there is a legal system to back up a contract

Without an enforcement mechanism a contract is merely words scrawled on a piece of paper, and is meaningless (much like money)

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>>112335296
It should already be obvious that the entirety of the political debate spectrum is cointelpro.

Are taxes too high or too low? Irrelevant, we don't actually need taxes.

Is social spending bankrupting us? Irrelevant, we can retire the national debt without cutting spending all while having no tax whatsoever.

What does this have to do with taking the red pill?

We've had the technological ability to undertake such a project for decades.

That means all the squabbling you have heard your entire life, money, debt, spending, taxes, scarcity, whatever, is all bullshit. Not only is it bullshit, anyone with rudimentary knowledge of the world has known that it is all bullshit for all of this time.

In other words, once you come to understand the such a project is and has been technically feasible for decades, you have to reevaluate many things.

Why is there nothing of this in the conspiracy media? They are not really trying to expose or solve any problems. One hundred percent of it is cointelpro. From the Young Turks to Infowars or whatever, they are all completely full of shit because solutions to our problems not only exist, are easy to carry out, but this has been the case for a very long time.

Similarly, you now know that 20%+ annual GDP growth is possible. If Trump gives you 3-4% instead of Obama's 2%, he is simply working with the establishment to try to placate and subvert a rising tide. If we see the easily achievable 20%+ growth rates, it is at least possible that he isn't a subversive. Anything less and you know he is a fraud.

>>112334972
>have central banking system right now
>systems gonna fail -- again
hmmmmmmm really made me cringe lad

>>112335178
In a free market you'd be protected by actual assets.

There's no such thing as a failure because your assets are owned by yourself and you have them physically to hand.

>>112335281
Fractional reserve banking doesn't exist because there are no "fractions" or "reserves"

banks don't lend out deposits, they craete money (debt) out of nothing.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/022416/why-banks-dont-need-your-money-make-loans.asp

>>112335410
The system isn't "failing"

It is working perfectly for the jewish billionaires and bankers that Germans seem to love giving power.

The question is whether there is any political will to amend central banking so it works for the people again. The more libertarian fantasies about abolishing the state and the central bank there are the less possible real change becomes.

>>112332693
>we're not commies because we hate jews
End yourself you dumb nazi

>>112335562
Ok so you don't know the widely used definition of market failure, that's ok. I should've known better. Consider scenarios in which the free market would inefficiently allocate resources and result in a negative outcome in such a way that the issue wouldn't be market-adjustable in decent time, or at all.

>>112335562
>only literal physical objects should be used to trade
>none of those damn new fangled credit cards are allowed

kek. Good luck bartering your house plant for food at the supermarket

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>>112335932
Libertarians are just communists by other means.

>>112335944
You would use the free market to keep your self protected at all times, going liquid when neccessary.

Theres no need to allow for time.

You wouldnt keep your wealth liquid

>>112336269
im not talking about a house plant

or supermarkets for that matter

i'd only want (((them))) to delete taxes and state patents. id welcome monarchy with a 10% tax cap too.

>>112335562
>Muh free market
Lmao, how's being 16

>>112335793
For the central banking system to work currencies need to be pegged to something physical to regulate capital flows between nations. Without that you inevitably end up in a race to the bottom with infinite debt/liquidity systems based on trying to obtain a comparative advantage in a free trade system. This benefits speculation and those in the position to profit from inflation rather than real wealth creators until the system collapses

>>112336932
financially secure, apparently

>>112336469
>going liquid
>in your ancap utopia where cash is banned

lol

1. you could never have a system where cash is banned, assuming banks all made their own money they would issue their own debt, so at any moment the bankscould fail and you would lose your life savings

Bravo ancapistan

2. If you DID ban cash you could never use bank debt/credit (i.e. currency) to purchase anything. You would be forced to use physical assets to barter. So again have fun pawning off your cat to try and afford this month's rent.


>>112336653
because your dumb gold fetishist (ancap) system can't account for even the most mundane of economic transactions

>>112337004
pegging currencies to commodities is what makes them fail.

The government needs to have full reign to issue debt whenever it wants to

>>112337316
Did I mention banning cash, anywhere?

Or is your autism playing up?

>>112336469
Ok I don't know how to break it down for you in a further digestible manner so I'm going to spoon feed you.

>Externalities
Non-market participant being affected by activities of other parties in the market.
ex./ Noise Pollution, endangering ecosystems, positive externalities where someone benefits without engaging in the market, the widely known Coase Theorem

>Information asymmetry
Market participants cannot come to an ideal outcome because one party has more or less information than their counterpart and engages in an inefficient manner
ex./ Organ trade, insurance, used goods

>Time varied preferences
Non-ideal market engagement based on preferences varying with time and participants not accounting for or being blind to future preferences
ex./ Again, organ trade, tobacco use, taking less money now than more in the future in scenarios where there's no more necessity to having it now than later

>The big M word, Monopoly and it's cousin, Monopsony
Monopolies forming because there's no regulation to prevent them. Barriers to entry can be placed to prevent proper competition.
ex./ pick your favorite monopoly for monopoly, university hiring in the labor market for monopsony example

>>112337526
Cash can't exist without a banking system that issues debt (money)

it seems you just want a barter economy where debt can never be issued. Good luck ever getting the money (or in this case bricks of solid gold) to start up a business.

>>112332286
Jews

>>112337914
This is a advert for why mainstream education is bad.

This massive tangent is unneccessary.

You need to recognise the basics and fundementals.

You can go off onto tangents like this ad infinitum and still be paying off your student loan for you useless college qualification

>>112338623
>dude fuck facts and history and shieet I have muh Austrian Mises.org ideology

>>112338156
Money has existed for thousands of years before banking systems existed.

Ask yourself -- -- Why does the aristocracy value gold?

>>112339124
They require it for sustenance.

>>112338623
I have no debt because I had a scholarship. I studied economics and math and am currently employed. I'd love to know what fundamentals you learned which throw out basic outcomes that you can observe for yourself. These don't just spring up in abstract models, I literally listed a bunch of examples. I tried guiding you towards reaching this conclusion in prior posts, but you keep droning on about tangible assets, like that will somehow resolve issues that have been debated for god knows how long now.

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>>112330052

>Cronyism is literally the natural outcome of capitalism

Nice try. Cronyism/Corporatism physically cannot exist without the state. When you have a monopoly on force, any regulation you make will tend to favor one enterprise vs. another.

Communism RELIES on force, so greater control -> totalitarianism is an obvious outcome.

>>112338807
History shows monetary systems thrive under free markets and fail under regulation and manipulation.

Just got to teach the fundementals to the masses, and avoid the endless polava you are trying to describe, and everone will hve some actual wealth.

and not debt-currency

100%. Guaranteed. Every time

>>112339222
thats interesting. Care to elaborate?

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>>112332286

>>112339260
You have no "issues" if you hold tangible assets.

Your "education" has taught you wrong my friend.

All those guys on wall st. are "educated" too, you know

>>112329192
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>>112329598
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>>112329752
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>>112339549
>>112339664
>>112339754
>not knowing it's actually the privately owned central banks that run everything

>>112339549
>History shows monetary systems thrive under free markets and fail under regulation

Stop painting in broad strokes. Market systems thrive (for the most part) under free markets and fail under (over) regulation. There's unresolvable or difficult to resolve in a decent amount of time issues that pop up in the free market that are easily made more efficient with minor regulation.

>>112340016
Are you actually a troll? Did you just read the list of shit I spoonfed you? Nothing there gets resolved by your obsession with tangibility.

>>112339754
No.

All countries borrow from the IMF.

no one "sends" poor countries money

>>112339664
Our ancestral leaders aren't and never were human. The Normans (and certain other noble families) are from beyond the pale and propagated across Europe in a desperate search for valuable minerals, which they require the presence of to survive. The older they get, the more they need. While most of them have passed away, their ruthless conquering and "adventuring" inspired European politics and warfare and the feudal system, which evolved into modern day. What I'm trying to say is, the gold vampires which took over Europe have created "Western" society, and only outsider cultures such as the jews and islam and throwbacks such as neo-paganists can see the evil inhumanism of it. We're all brainwashed into a culture and system mainly influenced by creatures who, in their desperate lust for gold, corrupted an entire continent.

>>112340045

>Privately owned banks that receive a constant supply of "loans" from the federal reserve

Yeah, totally private

>>112339124
money is debt and the banking system is based on debt.

abolishing the banking system would require abolishing debt and money. Good luck in your barter utopia.

>aristocracy value gold

They value their nobility and titles that give them claims to taxation of the peasantry that work the land far more than anything else.

>>112340240

You missed the point britbong

>>112340494
Sure buddy, sure

You're too stupid to know banks are not public, they "technically" are but depend on the privatley owned FED

>>112340353
This

Ultimate economics red-pill here

Everyone reading this google "monoatomic gold"

>>112339549
>monetary systems thrive under free markets

There is no such thing as a monetary "free market"

The government decides what is and isn't money. Under a largely "deregulated" system that means wildcat banks and constant bubbles bursting as happened during the 19th century in the US, or in the US post 1980. see Sub prime mortgage crisis, dot com bubble, and the current asset bubble today.

Regulation is needed to stop banks from creating endless debt bubbles.

>>112340353
>>112340885
lol

>>112340944
We have, today, more reguation than ever AND the biggest debt bubble ever......

Think about it

>>112340885
>monoatomic gold
close, but not quite. Those people are just trying to replicate the incredibly effect gold has on the fae creatures who led us. They will inevitably fail.

>>112341184
You can't just lump all regulation in a bundle and decide it's all bad you mongoloid. We have good and bad regulation going on right now and that has nothing to do with the principle that the free market is less efficient than a market with some regulations.

>>112341075
You say why the aristocracy values gold so much.

Your answer "nobility...taxation...pesantry... blah" doesnt even mention gold.#

Why do the aristocracy value gold ? ? ? ? ?

>>112340791

>You're too stupid to know banks are not public

I never said they were public.

>privatley owned FED

LOL, the FED was created by US Congress and doesn't run on profit. Not to mention can print money at a whim to distribute to "private" banks. Try again leafcuck

>>112341422
You got any links that I can chew on?

You know your shit

>>112341946
I can't risk linking my sources on the surface web. But check history and do some exploring, and it will all become clear.

>>112342171
The real question is, what will happen when HUMANITY stands alone. America will fracture?

>>112342171
how about some terms to google?

Got to give me something to go on im intrigued!

>>112341634

The FED has shareholders, hihi

>>112329192
JESUS is LORD

>>112340353
>we are secretly ruled by vampire ayy lmaos
LOL
The extent you cunts have to go to to avoid admitting that democratic control of the markets is a necessity is comic

>>112342465
I hate to say it friend, but America is a cancerous lie and you need to return to your ancestral roots and try and reconcile your broken history with your bloodpast.

>>112343020
>secretly ruled

Oh, not anymore. They simply created the society then died out. It's why western society is now slowly dying.

>>112341184
we have very little monetary regulation in our banking system thanks to decades of deregulation since the 1980s

>>112341616
gold is a common fetish of the parasitic and non productive class (aristocrats, bankers, jews etc)

it can be easily hoarded, non perishable, and is shiny

>>112342171
>>112341946
we have actual ancient alien posters on this board now

I blame reddit

>>112342699
the FED exists largely to hand over billions of dollars to the banking system

Our system has always been fairly corrupt. Germany had a far better Central Bank than us prior to the end of WW2

>>112343137
can you recommend books or literature to learn more??

You seem to have a deeper esoteric understanding of all this

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>>112343020
It's classic Libertarian autism

the second they begin to lose an argument they burn the whole thing to the ground by bringing up ghosts, aliens, and Ayn Rand

>>112343454
Read Manly P Hall for why gold is valuable.

Not ancient aliens - its just over your head

>>112343553
I'm writing a book on it, but this is mostly either self discovered, or, again, from my sources which I am unable to reveal here. If you give me some way to contact you anonymously, I would be happy to send you the evidence.

Sadly, the leaders of western society are too invested in denying reality and sustaining the lie, so try and destroy any of the evidence of their ideological ancestors.

>>112330025
Some big general rules seem to be true (lower taxes increase economic activity) but besides that basically everything else is debated with no consensus.
That's why you shouldn't take most (((economists))) seriously

>>112343683
>these are the people supporting the gold standard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8cErokGFs

>>112343775
oh no it's not ancient aliens

it's ancient VAMPIRE aliens

please spare me your LSD induced libertarian fanatsies

>>112343683
The "libertarian" in this gif is obviously a set up to discredit libertarianism.

Sent in by statists presumably

>>112343834
you can send to gabai888@gmx.com

Its a throwaway email

>>112343834
I knew a schizo like you in highschool

He was always ranting about some mystical alien/fantasy nonsense thanks to his years of hallucinatory drug abuse and claimed he'd be writing a book about it soon.
>>112344130
He was probably sent by the vampire aliens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXhR41lsEJY

>>112344007
I recommend any esoteric philosophy to understand why the aristocracy value gold.

>>112344411
yes - again - Gary Johnson sent in to discredit libertarianism.

Its obvious

They dont want you to know how to protect your wealth and blunder into giving up your rights to earn value and not debt.

>>112344411
Nice digits.

I am not a schizo, mental illnesses were invented to discredit those who realised the lie of society by their inbuilt racial memories rebelling. This is why so many blacks are violent - they are not yet properly brainwashed by the west. Thankfully, when the west collapses, we will all be freed and will naturally gravitate to our ancestral homes - conquest and violence only happens when cultures instinctively sense the other, the inhuman, within other cultures.

>>112344708
Im certain at this point that "Zoj1kyys" is their guy.

Trying to discredit valuable information and bamboozle anyone reading into endless polava

Its 2017, buddy - the veil has lifted.

We can all see whats going on

>>112344852
I need to read your book

>>112345467
It will be finished soon, ideally. I am likely not entirely correct - the elites are excellent in their misedirection and destruction of the truth, but I have seen a fundamental - the same lie that you, too, have seen - that something is deeply wrong with the West and only a few people can see it. But we're waking up.

>>112345872
Send a link to my email above where i can buy it when its ready and I'll be very interested to read it, im sure

>>112340194
Say that when your bank account means nothing because nobody trusts the currency. Tangible assets are theoretically much better than a non tangible asset in a depression/Dollar crash.

>>112329192
There is a difference between Capitalism and a Free Market. Capitalism is state sponsored Usury. Free Markets are labor backed economies.

>>112346521
this

I already dont trust the currencies.

£, $ whatever - they are all a lie

Designed to keep us all in need of their services and keep them therefore relevant

>>112346417
I will be certain to.

>>112346898
nice one brother

>>112347279
In the mean time, I would urge you to explore your ancestry and return to your roots to await the end of the west.

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>>112329192
We need nat soc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ

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>>112329192
>Giving the kikes home-field advantage
Using "capitalism" to defeat (((the globalists))) is like....using gasoline to douse a fire.

National Socialism/Fascism is the first and the last redpill anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le-9uWKe2dk

>>112347763
Will do

The end of the west is palpable at this point

>>112329894
Thanks m8, hope theyre worth the time

>>112349002
No probs.

The Money masters is the best - It s ike 3 1/2 hours long but its well worth it.