Explain to me how Trump is like Hitler.
>>112161518>white male
>>112161518>a-are you kidding me?
>>112161518Are you serious? Like, are you kidding me right now?
>>112161518
>are you fucking kidding? don't you know that Trump supports the KKK just like hitler did?
>>112161518Anne Frank's relative said something along those lines, so...
>>112161518Why are you hassling two young girls?
>>112162193Who creates these dank meme
>>112161518(1) Note that society has an energy throughput deficiency. This manifests in a variety of ways like polluted water, dumps, inadequate food, housing, health care and so on. Billions of lives are negatively impacted and death is widespread because of it.(2) Note that we have the ability to solve the energy throughput deficiency, but Trump has done nothing to make it happen.(3) Conclude that Trump is a genocidal freak and enemy of mankind like all other politicians.Is it possible to build a space elevator today?Yes:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qezLhypA0Y The key idea is the Orbital Ring version of the space elevator, not the geosynchronous tether concept you are familiar with.See, for example, Paul Birch's writings:http://www.orionsarm.com/fm_store/OrbitalRings-I.pdfThe orbital ring only requires tethers about 300 kilometers long which is technically feasible with common material like steel, but ridiculously straightforward with better and already available material like kevlar.
>>112162595There are some important questions. First, how much would it cost to do something like this?We need to send about 160 million kilograms of material into space (See Birch's boot strap estimates in part 2: http://www.orionsarm.com/fm_store/OrbitalRings-II.pdf)We have rockets available at $2000/kg costs to LEO today in "mass production" mode, which is only about 10-20 launches per year. Compared with the couple thousand launches necessary for a space elevator, $2000 is an unreasonably high upper bound for launch costs.We also need to include the cost of materials. A space elevator is about 98% steel and aluminum, 1% kevlar, and 1% other such as superconducting magnets. Most of the mass (98%) cost around $1/kg, with an average cost per kilogram of no more than about $10 per kilogram.Summing the above up, we get about $430 billion in launch costs plus another $1-2 billion in material costs.In other words, we can have a space elevator for less than $450 billion - significantly less than one year worth of DoD spending, one bank bailout, many times less than a variety of pointless wars, etc. This is well within our reach financially in other words.
>>112161518https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9m-Vi951RZM Help him out goys
>>112162637What do we get in return for this $450 billion investment?Virtually unlimited value. For example, with a space elevator we can reliably launch our nuclear waste into the sun. We've spent $100 billion building a waste repository in Nevada, but it was ultimately decided not to even use it. Now it costs only a dollar or two per kilogram to get rid of all of the nuclear waste in the world.Second, we have immediate access to viable asteroid mining industry. Because the cost of delivering payloads to LEO drops to about $1/kilogram, we can not retrieve asteroids with trillions of dollars worth of minerals for mere tens millions of dollars in addition to having an easy viable way of returning those resources back to the surface.We acquire the ability to deploy profitable solar power in orbit above cloud cover and with the ability to return said power back to the surface with near zero loss by running power transmission cables down the elevator.Just how profitable?With increased luminosity in space, enhanced exposure time, and the ability to deliver base loads, solar panels pay for themselves in only 1-2 years while having a 20 year life time.In other words, if you put $5 trillion of solar panels into space, you get your $5 trillion back by the end of year two and a $5 trillion income stream each year thereafter.In other words, the US could cut everyone's taxes, both personal and business, income, capital, death, or otherwise, all to 0%, not even cut any benefits or current spending, and pay off the national debt within a decade.
>>112162661It should already be obvious that the entirety of the political debate spectrum is cointelpro.Are taxes too high or too low? Irrelevant, we don't actually need taxes.Is social spending bankrupting us? Irrelevant, we can retire the national debt without cutting spending all while having no tax whatsoever.What does this have to do with taking the red pill?We've had the technological ability to undertake such a project for decades.That means all the squabbling you have heard your entire life, money, debt, spending, taxes, scarcity, whatever, is all bullshit. Not only is it bullshit, anyone with rudimentary knowledge of the world has known that it is all bullshit for all of this time.In other words, once you come to understand the such a project is and has been technically feasible for decades, you have to reevaluate many things.Why is there nothing of this in the conspiracy media? They are not really trying to expose or solve any problems. One hundred percent of it is cointelpro. From the Young Turks to Infowars or whatever, they are all completely full of shit because solutions to our problems not only exist, are easy to carry out, but this has been the case for a very long time.Similarly, you now know that 20%+ annual GDP growth is possible. If Trump gives you 3-4% instead of Obama's 2%, he is simply working with the establishment to try to placate and subvert a rising tide. If we see the easily achievable 20%+ growth rates, it is at least possible that he isn't a subversive. Anything less and you know he is a fraud.
>>112161518this dude always look like he just woke up at 5 A.M
>>112161518>how Trump is like HitlerI'll get back to you when congress votes him in as dictator, he annexes Canada and starts putting mexicans in camps
>>112161518He named the jew and is against globalism
I wish he was HitlerGoodnight ... sweet prince
>>112162589I don't know, I just save them desu
Shroyer is a prussian cuck
>>112161518He is not. Actually the leftists (BLM and anti-fa) are more like the Nazis:http://ijr.com/2017/02/797086-youve-heard-people-compare-trump-to-hitler-so-we-asked-a-woman-who-was-born-in-nazi-germany/ "What is going on in this country is giving me chills. Trump is not like Hitler. Just because a leader wants order doesn't mean they're like a dictator. What reminds me more of Hitler than anything else isn't Trump, it's the destruction of freedom of speech on the college campuses — the agendas fueled by the professors. That's how Hitler started, he pulled in the youth to miseducate them, to brainwash them, it's happening today."
>>112162270OH GOD HERE WE GO.... there was no KKK during Hitlers time you idiot. Trump has never supported them.Just shows how ignorant the communist left has gottenits desperateTrump is anti establishment, created a movement to take our country back from the corrupt banks and special interest groups, and promises to give the country back to the people.Hitler was a socialistTrump is a billionare capitalistand Trump is an American leading AmericaHitler was an Austrian leading GermanyThere are no valid comparisons
>>112162695I've seen this multi-post before...what is your plan, demon?
>>112161518He made promises to the peopleThen once he gained power - He fulfilled all of those promises immediately He then started massive infrastructure projects, like improving the motorways (wall) to create massive employment and get the people working again, with money in their hands.also, German.If you believe the fact that Hitler didnt know about "the holocaust" and that it was all the work of Goebbels, also that "mass killings" in the concentration camps were only happening across the last few months of the war - Then you can say that Hitler did nothing wrong (as he didnt know)And thus, would make Trump, literally Hitler - A man of the people, for the people, who came through on all his promises and saved his own country from a great depression and shit economy.
>>112162270The KKK was the covert military wing of the Democrats.
Literally shaking
>>112163018>leftists are more like NazisBlue-pilled thinking.Nazis were a reaction to Communists in the 20s doing the exact same thing Communists are doing today. The leftists of today are just doing what leftists always do.
>>112161518Becuaue Trump is white!
>>112162270>tfw no leftist qt gf to dominate and redpill
>>112163070There was KKK during Hitler's time, though. They've literally been around since just after the civil war.
>>112163453wtf im a democrat now
>>112162270Did he fuck her afterwards?
>>112162661A space elevator would be ideal, but built out of what materials? Carbon nanotubes lose half their strength when one atom is misaligned.https://www.newscientist.com/article/2093356-carbon-nanotubes-too-weak-to-get-a-space-elevator-off-the-ground/There are plans for a 20 kilometre high platform/launching site that might be feasible.President Trump might build it if it was to be known as the ultimate "Trump Tower". Heh.
>>112161518>tfw i'm an oldfag and know this meme
They both have powerful eyes that pierce through the veil of lies spun by the Jewish menace.
>>112163906It's not my opinion. It's the opinion of the woman in the article. The tactics of the brown shirts are very similar to antifa/blmSorry, I am all for a national state with law and borders, but socialism is fucking poison. It was poison in Germany and it's still poison. If you want an ethno-state for white people, fine. But you are shooting yourself in the foot with this socialist garbage. I agree that Hitler would never have been possible if it were not for the communists though.
>>112164344You didn't read obviously.>The orbital ring only requires tethers about 300 kilometers long which is technically feasible with common material like steel, but ridiculously straightforward with better and already available material like kevlar.
>>112163070>Wow, you really showed me. You Nazi.
>>112161518Easy, he's making America great again.
>>112163906Hitler was a socialist too though and socialism is cancer. Being a response to double cancer of communism wasn't really the best solution.
>hard right >populist>nationalist>'stong man' style leader that admires other strong men>attacks media, judiciary - seeks to destroy legitimacy of core institutions that oppose him>lies to public in pants on fire fashion>scapegoats outsiders>supports social programs but otherwise far right>'might makes right' style>wants to replace ideals based foreign policy with interest based foreign policyEven you /pol/ fucks glorify the ties/similarities. Just yesterday I was in a thread where you dumb shits were talking about his nationalist and socialist tendencies make him 'some sort of social nationalist', which received much kudos and keks
>>112162589the finnish :DDD
>>112165017Kevlar would do it.
>>112162595how many tethers?
>>112161518are you blind or something?If you can't see that he's literally hitler you are no better than a fucking nazi.
>>112162661Not to rain on your parade, but if the United States had $5 trillion worth of electricity pouring out of the sky, wouldn't that pretty much crash the value of it? Google says that our annual energy expenditures are $1.2 trillion. OPEC is only swimming in money from oil because they keep the supply artificially low. $5 trillion in solar seems impossible to cash out.
>>112161518Adolf Hitler was infinitely more calculating, and hateful, and at the end of the day, had barely anything to show for it. Had Hitler chosen good over evil, he might've been something... else. A phenomenon. Nope, from the very start, he was just angry at things, but he had the gifts to shit on the world, rather than his own pants.
>>112165043hnnng
>>112166195This has the pretense of being an interesting line of thought but really is no such thing.Ultimately, we would like to drive the price of everything down to zero. That is to say, we'd like to live in a post-scarcity society where you can have what you want.Collapsing the price of input commodities is among the greatest achievements that mankind can strive towards. It means you in turn collapse the prices of food, housing, health care, cars, whatever. This is where we want to go.How you want to account for the value of such achievements is essentially a semantic game. One could hypothesize a post-scarcity society where prices across all commodities are zero and say, aha! the market no longer delivers any value! Or something less extreme, a world nearing post-scarcity and therefore systemic downtrends of prices towards zero and thus a semantic trick available of saying 'less' value is being delivered by noting falling prices. But obviously this is absurd, and you are doing the same sort of thing.
>>112167936Well, yeah. It kinda throws a wrench into your plan to pay for the debt and the construction with the returns from solar energy.You claimed that we could pay off the debt, and that financing the construction would pay for itself because we'd have a $5 trillion revenue stream. If we crash the value down to zero, then hey, congratulations, we've eliminated energy costs as soon as we can power everything from a battery, but...If we went asteroid mining and came back with 200,000 tons of gold, we couldn't sell it for anything, and gold would instantly become worthless. If you were planning on paying off the national debt with all that gold, you were either stupid or disingenuous when you proposed the plan.
why do leftists compare trump supporters to nazis as if that's a bad thing
>>112161518HE'S A CIS WHITE MALE YOU SHITLORD
>>112161518REEEEEEEEEEE!
>>112168937Again, pretending to be interesting but obviously not.By deploying a space elevator and solar generation, we can produce energy at costs about 30x lower than prevailing market rates.Nothing compels us to sell at the acquisition cost however. If we sell power at 15x the cost of acquisition, that is still undercutting the current generators by 50% while retaining hundreds of billions of profit from the US market. Global energy consumption is around $9T per year, so we could profit in excess of $4T per year by selling at half of the current price.Of course, the more nuanced view is even better for us. By slashing energy prices 50%, consumption would increase dramatically. Because we have the cheapest form of energy available, 100% of this growth in consumption represents growth in the profitability of the project which already has a baseline of many trillions of dollars in benefit per year.
>>112161518>"BECAUSE I SAID SO REEEEEEEEEEEE"Every answer I've gotten.
>>112171786Your arguments are all over the place, guy. First we can sell our energy at market rate and make $5 trillion a year. Then the point that the energy market will crash is brushed aside by saying that crashing is desirable, that there's nothing better than eliminating the cost of an input resource. Now that you're trying to explain how you're going to make money off of this, your plan is to withhold supply and/or refuse to sell it for anything except a 1500% profit.You've got to be 15, at the most. Do you have any idea how difficult it would be to sign up the whole world to receive all of their energy costs from the United States? We wouldn't even have time to enjoy any benefit, because of World War III. Petroleum is one fourth of Russia's GDP. Their export earnings from oil and gas are 14% of their GDP. I don't think they're going to be as casual as you are about eliminating that industry and buying all of their energy from us at an arbitrary price we set. Not to mention other countries who rely much more on energy resources. This is exactly the kind of stuff that starts wars.If our plan for profiting off of this is to wreck and take over the global energy markets, we're going to get nuked. Making a move to eliminate huge chunks of nations' economies is effectively an act of war.
>>112161518>at recent family gathering>majority of family (who didn't vote) butt devastated trump won>they're going on and on comparing him to Hitler and saying people who voted for him should be killed>my aunt braggingly says she went through her facebook and deleted lifelong friends and family who voted for him>rest of family says awesome good for you>I stand up and say to everyone don't you think its kind of fucked up to get rid of lifelong friends and family because of who they voted for? Maybe we should judge people on how they treat us and not who they politically endorse. Maybe we should try working together instead of fighting with people who have different viewpoints>everyone goes quiet and you can see anger boiling over in their faces>my dad chimes up and says you don't know what you're talking about trump is literally the next hitlerKeep in mind none of my family voted including myself. I had no dog in this fight. Just seems like common sense to me
>>112161518I don' have to explain anything to a white fucking male
>>112161518He's more like Batman DESU, the hero we deserve.
>>112161518he's a white male
>>112167611>knee chisurely that's enough to turn a kraut off?
>>112174210Now you know how American liberalism is a mental disorder
>>112174160It's nice of you to concede that the economic potential is so great that it severely disrupts geopolitics.You're right about the monumental significance and that is precisely why we should do it.
>>112167611Does she know that there are a bunch of Trump supporters on an anonymous message board trading and blowing loads to pictures of her? If not, I think she deserves to know.
>>112175580So how does this go back to your original claim that we could drop taxes to zero, pay for it, pay off the debt, and collect $5 trillion a year in revenue. According to you, I haven't made any actual points, yet it seems like you've been shifting all over the place. Just to clarify, you are still sticking with the original claim?
>>112175543Its so shocking seeing people you've known for so long acting this way. Its scary. I didn't realize how bad it has gotten.
>>112161518HE'S A FUCKING WHITE MALE
>>112176055check her twitter.she retweed a "do it for her" collage. in fact i think she secretly like the attention she gets from us
>How Is Trump Like Hitler? Your Jewish Friends Explain! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oeiNkwsWaQ
>>112176213I find it hard to believe that you are serious.The market is willing to pay trillions of dollars per year for a commodity which we can produce for 30x less than the going rate.You are asking why is selling donuts for $1 when they cost $0.10 is a profitable venture. If you'd like to pose a serious question, I'd be happy to answer it but you are not presently doing it.
>>112161518i cant, but i wish he was
>>112164442checked
>>112161518Damm seeing that guy hit me with nostalgia. Feels like that video was forever ago
>>112178348Anon asked a legit question. You have not answered.>Do you have any idea how difficult it would be to sign up the whole world to receive all of their energy costs from the United States?
>>112178348The world spends $6 trillion on energy a year. Are you still maintaining that the United States can finance the project, reduce taxes to zero, pay off the debt, and have a steady revenue stream?My position is that no, you can't. You can bring the cost of producing energy in the United States down to effectively zero and make money off of consumers here by still charging them a much smaller amount, decrease the cost of manufacturing, etc. I do think that there is a serious limit to how much money you can make, and your numbers are complete fantasy.How do you even plan on providing solar energy to China? Are we running cables or sending them batteries? What your proposing isn't serious. It will either not in any way pay for what you claim, or it will start World War III before it becomes operational. Russia is not going to allow us to eliminate 25% of their GDP. That is an existential threat to them. Best make sure your elevator can survive a nuclear attack or drastically scale down your idea of how much money we can make from it.
>>112161518We re going to make Germany great again, our actual status is jews fault.
>>112178348To help you understand, let me put it another way:Say that China built your elevator, and they came to the United States with a proposition. We could stop all drilling, close down all oil, gas, solar, hydro industries in America, buy all of our energy from them, and we'd save money. Does that seem like a good deal? Shut down all the refineries, the drilling, fire all the petroleum engineers and geoscientists. Think about what happens to our country's economic growth when the price of oil drops. What do you think our response would be to the Chinese proposition?
>>112162270>tfw no aug gf
>>112181208The US already does this in effect - it is called the petrodollar regime. We force the world to trade energy supplies in dollars, propping up the value of the dollar, which we in turn use to effectively skim a cut off of every transaction for free.The present circumstances of world geopolitics in other words is that the US is committing highway robbery by force.The only real geopolitical shift we are talking about is one of mutually improved circumstances, i.e., energy is cheaper and more abundant for us all. The usury class and the degenerate politicians who depend upon economic hardship to suppress and distract the masses would be in serious trouble, but no one else really.
>>112181916The notion that Russia or China is going to nuke our infrastructure is just as absurd, if not more so, than the idea that they are going to nuke D.C.As to power delivery, the existence of elevators means you can run power transmission lines down to Earth in addition to microwave beams. Either is perfectly fine and highly profitable.
>>112184017The petrodollar started after World War II, and the US had a gold-backed currency until 45 or so years ago. Russia, China, Iran, India, Venezuela, and such trade oil in other currencies. Try again.
>>112183094We already do this, except not with energy but rather with most manufactured goods.The world is already operating in the way you are suggesting is impossible.
>>112184017>The US already does this in effect - it is called the petrodollar regime.>The present circumstances of world geopolitics in other words is that the US is committing highway robbery by force.This is no news! That's why the credibility of the US backed energy project may be low.>The usury class and the degenerate politicians So what about them? Shall we wait for them to die out?
>>112185007So you think the United States would accept the proposition? We would stop producing energy and become entirely dependent on another country to save money?Outsourcing is not the same as a resource monopoly. Why can't you just admit that we can't make trillions and trillions of dollars selling solar power to the world?
>>112184901Your points are of no consequence. The portion of trade conducted in dollars throughout the world is about 2/3, rising to about 95% if you include a couple geopolitically inseparable entities like the EU/Euro and British/Pound.The world reserve currency enforced by military supremacy is a geopolitical reality regardless of a handful of transactions outside the domain. In other words, the enforcement of US trade superiority by force is already the way in which the world works, so suggesting that the project is not viable because we can't act unilaterally is laughably absurd. We already do it.
>>112176055Yes. She deleted her social media and made her twitter private after posting a do it for her collage
>>112185167The US does indeed have low moral credibility in the world, but reorienting our developmental goals in this way would only raise the credibility. Vastly increasing the energy throughput of the world economy is the same thing as eliminating poverty, hunger, homeless, and so on. We have the power to drive economic growth levels not yet known to mankind and restore the moral standing of the US in the world as a direct result of billions of lives being markedly improved.
>>112162589Nobody creates them. Kek wills them into existence
>>112185504Let's just put it this way. China has no choice in the matter. If they do not want cheaper energy from us, then we sell to someone else who can in turn produce cheaper goods than they can. Thus, China sacrifices its export market by declining the cheapest energy available (from us). This is a decision that they cannot make.
>>112185007But even going with your example of manufacturing, the reduction in manufacturing and the increase in outsourcing has caused a lot of discontent and a lot of problems. Eliminating 25% of Russia's GDP is not going to be accepted, and becoming entirely dependent on the United States is going to be accepted even less. What would happen to China if, fifteen years down the line, we turned off their power? The chaos it would cause in other countries would be the equivalent of what would happen here if the dollar became worthless. I think our country would go to war to prevent that from happening; I think others would do the same.The world is moving away from the petrodollar precisely because they don't like us having such influence. Why would they quadruple down and secure total US power over the globe by giving us a monopoly on energy?
>>112162270Why do the jews hate us so much?
>>112186816(1) We have no reason to cut off the power.(2) The world has no choice but to accept the dictation of the US regime owing to military supremacy(3) More importantly, the whole point here is shifting towards a more mutually beneficial paradigm which is good for us all anyway, so there is no reason to resistWe need not be slaves to the errors of the past.
>>112186761Economic warfare. China exerts its influence up to and including military force on countries within its reach to preserve themselves. Backing people into corners, yield or collapse, will start World War III. And yes, I absolutely believe that China and/or Russia would attack our energy infrastructure if we set out to collapse their economy unless they yielded to our interests.
>>112161518YOU'RE
>>112186131>restore the moral standing of the US in the worldHigh time you started. Cannot wait. Will we see some of your war criminals in Hague? Probably not, but some kind of catharsis would be useful. It's good for the blood pressure. Ukraine, Syria, Libya...the list is very long, to name just the some recent cases.
He doesn't want the Jews to rule his country anymore and we wants to bring the people together
>>112187467The world doesn't work that way. Countries have gone to war over far less. China barely tolerates our Navy near its waters. What your proposing is the single biggest power grab ever imagined. The idea that we can send the world into the greatest depression in history and get rich at the same time isn't going to work, and people aren't going to let us do it. If you go around the world giving people the choice of either accepting our power over them or being invaded, you'll find that a lot of people won't take that deal. Our military is strong, and we can deploy it anywhere in the world, but an invasion of China, Russia, Venezuela, etc is stretching it pretty thin, and nuclear weapons are a great equalizer.
>>112187496> I absolutely believe that China and/or Russia would attack our energy infrastructure if we set out to collapse their economy unless they yielded to our interests.We forgive your ignorance then. The US has already done this to Russia after the Cold War when we flew in literal planeloads of cocaine cash to buy off the mob and seized control of all of their major state industry.Nuclear powers bend the knee to US economic warfare. This is not merely a description of potentiality in the future, but a description of things which have already occurred. Your point of view is not grounded in reality.
>>112187657I concur.>>112188638There is no reason to invade anyone.If China declines to purchase cheap energy, we sell to Nigeria who can now produce goods cheaper than the shops in China. China collapses as a result.They have no choice in the matter.Fortunately, we wouldn't be asking them to accept anything bad. It is to their advantage and ours that the world's energy is more abundant.
>that unifying sense of community immediately following this event as we all teamed up to deliver a super-saiyan BTFOI've never seen a human being so utterly destroyed in such a small window of time.
>>112188884Well, I forgive your naïveté. The collapse of the Soviet Union can not be compared to the single targeted act your proposing. If you don't understand that, there's not much helping you.
He aims to do whats best for his country and her people. He has the power to reignite the fire of nationalism sleeping dormant inside the people, with speeches that make the people love their homeland again. He wants to restore his country to it's former state of world power and influence. He wants to rebuild the economy to be greater than it ever had been before, and bring the unemployment rate lower than it has ever been in the past. He wants to rebuild our military and bring back imperialistic tendency, so if we do go to war, we get something out of it. Resources like oil, new territory, war will benefit us directly.
>>112189171I thought the world had no choice but to bend? Energy costs are only one aspect of manufacturing. China-US exports are $500 billion. That'll take a lot of Nigerians for not much in the way of cost savings, unless you're back to giving away electricity.
>>112189171Other countries don't have an option besides war. Oil price fluctuations affect our economy. Many other countries are much, much more reliant on energy production as a percentage of their GDP. That big shale boom? Bumped oil and gas up to 1.6% of GDP. It's never been above 5%. By comparison, Russia is a gas station with a country attached. 1/4 of their GDP is oil and gas. 15% of their GDP is oil and gas exports. Almost 70% of their export revenues come from oil and gas. Whether Russia accepts your proposition or not, they're going to collapse. Even the hit oil would take from countries that do accept would cause massive problems throughout the world.Trying to make anywhere near the amount of money you're trying to make is impossible without half the world descending into chaos. It's questionable if Russia could survive cheap oil. No oil is the end of Russia. I doubt they'd be happy when we told them that they only owe us a hundred billion dollars or however much a year to keep the lights on.
>>112189171If you really think war is so impossible, that no country would do it, ask yourself this:If we were alerted that in six months, China would finish construction on something that would destroy our currency and economy. That when China finished this project, the United States would fall into something ten times worse than the Great Depression with no end in sight. Do you think we'd try and stop them from finishing?
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