BUILD THAT RAIL!I want my wall as much as anyone else, but politically I want to spend my capital elsewhere. I think we should rebrand the wall to be a comprehensive infrastructure campaign. This means first and foremost HIGH SPEED PASSENGER AND CARGO RAIL ALONG THE SOUTHERN BORDER.This high-tech rail will be a boon for our economy, especially considering it will be built with AMERICAN STEEL. In addition to the Southern Rail we should begin work on a Northern Rail that spans our northern border.If we sprinkle in some more funds that MAKE AMERICAN ROADS AND BRIDGES GREAT AGAIN we will be on the road to untold prosperity.Once ALL Americans see how great investing in America is, our wall will build itself.
We can build a train on the top of the wall?
Bumping for a cool map.Infrastructure thread include space elevator, yes?
>>110345133That is the right way to think! Everyone wants high speed rail, we want a wall.LET'S MEME IT INTO REALITY!
>>110345133The Great Wall of China is wide enough to drive a car on, so why not? If Chinks can build a wall 2x larger than the US-Mexico border over 2,000 years ago we can do it better today with our modern technology.
[autisic screeching intensifies]but really the GOP will allow states to privatize highways which will mean a huge boost in rail investment as tolls are implemented
>>110345636Space elevators will give America the biggest technological advantage since the Internet (which King Nigger sold to the EU).MAKE AMERICAN INFRASTRUCTURE GREAT AGAIN!
>>110344964Seriously OP, how do we make this happen?I propose we call it AmRail and meme it into existence.
>>110345636>yfw the wall doubles as the base of a space elevatorthis is the best american timeline
>>110344964Grids are always the way op. you can ad lines, its not so crooked and messy. faster, better, easier. don't need to connect a lot of those cities. you can if you wish with a grid.
>>110344964>tfw everything meeting in Chicago>tfw not in the Crossroads of America, Indianapolis
>>110344964kek.Fuck Idaho.
>>110346532those are only good for non-passengerif they're passenger all that does is make people have 50 layovers and is awful for the consumerhave you ever gone on a train before?
>>110346532>trying to use perfect grids on the surface of a giant spherenot going to work hombre. that isn't even taking into account terrain that is so demanding it would just be easier and cheaper to reroute the rail line
One thing New Gingrich was right about was a moon base.A moon base is absolutely crucial to our future of space exploration. One of, if not the biggest issues for space travel is the cost of launching something from earth's atmosphere. It requires a massive amount of fuel to push just small objects up there (see Saturn Rockets, which unfortunately we haven't really advanced past because the death of the space program). Having a facility on the moon that would be able to be self sufficient that could house space craft would be absolutely huge. Maybe someday Newt, maybe someday.
>>110345133If it's wide enough, then, theoretically, yeah. Actually, If the train runs atop the wall, then you would have a harder time climbing over the tracks without getting killed. Not to mention there might be guardrails on the sides and the fall would probably kill you anyway... BUILD THE WALL EXPRESS
why is this UNITED STATES rail system going into canada and mexico
>>110346532you forgot all the mountains lakes and rivers they have to pass through
>>110344964fucktarded spur to Salt Lakewhy not run the red line directly through and then have it swing down to vegas>purple line in general Fuck the Leafs, just have the white line run in Detroit>Mexican stationsbetter be one way only, THEY HAVE TO GO BACK
>>110347223I want to see multiple space elevators creating the anchor for an orbital fabrication ring to build our fucking space fleetthe stars belong to humanity
>>110344964"high speed rail" is a boondoggle. california has been shovelling $6 million a day into the fire, every day, weekends and holidays included on "high speed rail" for nearly a decade and we have yet to see a single train travel a single mile of track. "high speed rail" only works in intensively planned economies, servicing a few distant locations with no stops between. in america, every small town, podunk village and two bit truckstop with a post office will expect the train to stop there so they can get a slice of the pie. as a result "high speed rail" becomes normal speed rail, and the feds already dump billions per year into that rat hole. "high speed rail" is a gravy train with biscuit wheels for developers, land speculators, pork barrel politicians and contractors, but in the end it is a waste of money. you can build a 6 lane freeway for less per mile and the users will fund it with their gas taxes instead of having to empty the coffers into the pockets of a few well connected fat cats.
>>110344964Investing in America is worthless because it's near it's very roman collapse. Also not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.
>>110344964Yet airplane still faster, and we don't have to build a ton of shit since its already up and running.
>wanting the government in charge of making a passenger rail systemyou must not be familiar with california or you wouldn't be asking for this
>>110344964A rail system like this would be hugely beneficial to the development of infrastructure and transportation in the South, especially the Carolinas, Georgia, Virginia, and Alabama. I'm all for it, those are 5 of the fastest growing states in the nation.
>>110344964High speed rail on a country as spread out as america is stupidA line up each coast would be viable, but across is just silly
>>110345926> derp derp derp> duh ebil republicans ib gunna privatize teh roadz! citation needed faggot. out here in the west we have no toll roads to speak of, while you east coast faggots drive on PRIVATELY BUILT ROADS, not "privatized" national highways. any attempt to turn public roads into a privately owned honeypot would be soundly rejected by the voters, and would be anathema to the very basic tenets of republicanism. if you want to whine about toll roads, complain to your representatives who didnt build any fucking roads, and then bitch and complain when private interests do.
>>110344964>Wanting Californians to be able to move into your state cheaper and fasterno thanks
>>110348727Wouldn't the logistics for keeping the plethora of satellites from hitting the ring be astronomically difficult?
>>110346335If you're serious, then write to your legislator and ask them to support highway privatization. Everything else will flow from there.>>110349300You're in luck because SEHSR is slowly starting to take form in the form of three projects (Richmond-DC commuter rail, Ralehiegh-Richmond HSR, and Altanta-Chattanoga HSR).http://dc2rvarail.com/https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/sehsr/http://www.dot.ga.gov/IS/Rail/AtlantatoCharlotteAnyway, Newt has long wanted to create an Atlanta Amtrak hub (ala Chicago, NYC or Los Angeles) which is now within reach.
>>110346532This is retarded the reason most people would use this is to go up and down the east and west coast and you completely destroy that with those grids.
>>110349203Enjoy "disappearing' one of these times anon out at sea
>>110349689>out here in the west we have no toll roads to speak ofWrong. Caltrans has exploited loopholes in USDOT policy to build paid HOV lanes. They'd expand the program into full-blown toll roads if given the opportunity.>if you want to whine about toll roads, complain to your representatives who didnt build any fucking roads, and then bitch and complain when private interests do.Guess what, highways are one of the few pieces of infrastructure in America not privately owned or operated. This will likely change over the next eight years. It'll mean more rail investment as a result.
>>110344964Oh here we go again, muh rails. Go move to Europe faggit.
>>110350179privatizing the national highways system is bullshit. train touts like you might want it, but nobody else does. i dont give a wet shit about your fetish for the romance and charm of rail travel, if you like that shit, ride the amtrak, or BART system basking in the pungent aromas of bum urine and curry muncher feces, i for one will keep my car.
>>110349916not really, we already know their orbital paths and altitudes
France, us and the Japs tried selling you high speed railways including meme tier monorails since forever, never worked since burgers just fly for everything that's further than 300 miles and drive to anything under. A bunch of ancient connections is all congress will allow budget wise.
>>110344964>building a rail through the rocky mountains in ColoradoGood luck with that. With all the snow and ice we get up here, trains won't be able to pass through without someone clearing it off. Not to mention Colorado is entirely above sea level, and most the western part of the state can be anywhere from 8000 to 11000 feet above sea level, which would cause most of you faggots to get altitude sickness.
>>110350650> paid hov lanesa pilot program, only in sf, la and san diegopaid for BY THE DEVELOPERS operating in parallel to the state highways that feed them. why must you be such a lying sack of shit?
>>110346532you have no idea about america if you think that shit is better
>>110350865>train touts like you might want it, but nobody else does. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio openly endorsed the idea when USDOT got their latest infusion of cash in 2015. They want to build upon the toll road model that has already proven to be successful in their own respective states. More broadly speaking Republicans support it because it means less government spending and Democrats support it because it means better urban land use and higher transit utilization.>i dont give a wet shit about your fetish for the romance and charm of rail travel, if you like that shit, ride the amtrak, or BART system basking in the pungent aromas of bum urine and curry muncher feces, i for one will keep my car.Then you can pay a toll like New Yorkers, Texans, and Floridians do. Stop being so Californian.
You want to steal from people, and use the money to build A FUCKING TRAIN?Fuck you
>>110347541well Amtrak already has a few stations in Canada so it's not that much of a stretch. although with all the shit currently going down with Mexico I doubt there would ever be any stations down there tho
>>110349203A high-speed rail is more practical for short-distance than a plane. Flying between Charlotte and Atlanta, for example, takes about and hour and a half because of the time it takes to leave/land at the two airports. A rail between the two would take about 2-2 and a half hours and be significantly cheaper. It may not be as fast but it's certainly more cost-efficient for most consumers. Also consider over medium distances you wouldn't have to wait on layovers, or worry about whether or not you'll make your flight.
>>110351212a "pilot program" that covers over 100 miles in roads and affects over 10 million CA residents daily >paid for BY THE DEVELOPERS operating in parallel to the state highways that feed them. "in parallel" includes a paid HOV lane
>>110344964
>>110351003>is all congress will allow budget wiseThey could've had rails everywhere, but do you know how much the American car and oil companies would lose? This is why they never really bothered investing in public transportation, and why it's all private.
>>110351555i already paid my toll, in highway taxes gas taxes property taxes, income taxes sales taxes. etc etc etc. only morons would propose selling off a utility to private interests, it has never worked.
>>110350919I mean, a lot of them would have to be adjusted though, correct? I'm assuming the ring wouldn't be at an altitude too much lower than many satellites.
>>110345133>tfw you climb the wall and get hit by a train>tfw I'm too lazy to put a face
>>110350638Easilt avoided by not flying to Malaysia or Africa
>>110349916An elevator would be at 500km height. satellites are 35000km away from earth.
>>110344964add minneapolis to omaha you fuckin dickdo you live in 'quincy' or something?
>>110344964>tfw chicago is once again a booming economy because of central location train hubPlease let this happen
Can the wall also be mobile and deployable? Would a VTOL wall or a tank-treaded wall be a better idea?Personally I like the idea of The Wall being a train track, base for a space elevator, and be a VTOL for speedy deployment.
>>110344964Fuck off we're full.There's already too much train traffic going through chicago.
>>110351555>Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio openly endorsedWow, a whole train made out of butter! My wife would love it.Who cares?
It would only work in a few corridors. West coast LA to SF and cities in between, Boston-NY-Washington DC, Midwest maybe twin cities to Chicago and towards Philadelphia.
No. Rail is a waste of money since we are way too big and there is a whole lot of nothing connecting the big cities. Its cheaper to fly. Now a high speed rail in New England only would be something to look into
>>110344964WHY IS IT GOING IN TO TJ!!!111!!
>>110344964I got a rail for ya
>>110351113well there's already an Amtrak rout that goes through Denver and the rocky mountains. In theory it could be converted to high speed rail, it would just be expensive as fuck tho.
>>110344964the reality is that you'll be sharing those trainlines with people who are hoodratsyou know that right?sounds great when you're around your little hipster clique, but you gotta share that ride with losersi'd be fine with it personally, but /pol/ wouldn't like it and likely would refuse to ride!
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>>110344964America is way too big for a high speed rail to be effective. It would be cheaper and faster for someone to fly from California to New York. And it's not like there's tons of traffic to the fly over states.
>>110352299O shit, I had no idea. Let's do this shit then. I want a space ring to build a fleet on.
>>110346618Crossroads of America has been St. Louis, MO for over 200 years.
>>110344964If those lines were walls, I'd help fund it.
>>110352234It works great for the government's budget, which is ultimately what matters. This is one of the few instances where both parties want to shrink the government.>>110353121Amtrak uses private security, not their own police force. This is one of the reasons why niggers and homeless people take buses instead.
First molten salt reactors, and now a high speed rail system. Trump is making the future.
>>110346532Ignoring middle American cities is NOT the way to revitalize American industry.Also,> A
>>110351878> 100 miles!!!!!!!california has 400,000 miles of roads dipshit 100 miles IS a fucking pilot program. the "paid hov lanes" run parallel to a few state highways, and feed to andfrom those roads, as a BYPASS for those who have more money than sense and want to dodge a mile or too of traffic congestionthey were bult and paid for BY THE OPERATORS under the supervision of Cal Trans as part of an experiment to see if they were feasible (so far they are not.) most people would rather sit in traffic for 20 minutes than spend $20 to skip ahead a few miles just so they can get back in traffic to exit, and remain in traffic until they reach their destination. i spent half my life between LA and San Francisco, , and i have driven coast to coast and back several times of all the infuriating and hellish things i have experienced behind the wheel, eastern toll roads are the worstthe west is free, you cant fence us i! go back to sucking dicks in the bathroom of your communist bookstore. we dont cotton to the likes of you round here.
>>110344964>Trump is building railways to eliminate the highway jewIts like my wants and dreams are manifesting into reality.
>>110353143A rare artifact, shitposting in print media. A true Australian national treasure
>>110344964https://discord.gg/aRUeRhttps://discord.gg/aRUeRhttps://discord.gg/aRUeR
>>110347141>sphere
>>110344964expensive to maintain and ardous to build, japan has one but its because its a tiny island. could be worth while.
>>110355251Japan is the size of the U.S. east coast, nig.
>>110344964Yes please! I want buisness back in America. Now if we can put one on the wall, then it's the best thing to possibly happen.
>>110348815>california has been shovelling $6 million a day into the fire, every day, weekends and holidays included on "high speed rail" for nearly a decade and we have yet to see a single train travel a single mile of track. This sounds like the plot of True Detective; fuck that shit
>>110344964Liberal non-voter here. That would be fucking fantastic. Wonder what the prices would be like.
>>110345133>Not building a row of houses at the wall>place all the army bases are the wall
>>110354702>100 miles IS a fucking pilot program. Those 100 miles include I-880 and I-580 in Alameda County, I-10 and I-5 in Los Angeles County. It's not a pilot program when it affects more than 10 million drivers.>the "paid hov lanes" run parallel to a few state highways, and feed to andfrom those roads, as a BYPASS for those who have more money than sense and want to dodge a mile or too of traffic congestionThe Nimitz Freeway is usually backed up from Vacaville all the way into Berryessa during commute hours. Also, there are only five through roads into San Francisco (the PCH, 101, 80, 280, and El Camino).>the west is free, you cant fence us i!you're being a stereotypical Californian again
>>110352450>Wall was built with nuclear rocket engines built in every 20 feet on each side>2022>6 years into Trump administration>Cartels defeated>Mexico Great Again>President Trump casts his baleful gaze North>2023>Completion of the Wall Pipeline is under budget and ahead of schedule>Completion of fueling is under budget and ahead of schedule>Trump declares National Holiday "Wall Moving Day>The world is watching>White House Press Conference is called at the border of Mexico>Trump declares the wall a success and is handed his sixth Nobel Peace Prize this year by the Mexican President>Countdown begins>Right as the countdown reaches zero, trump leans into the microphone>"Canada, You're Fired">Slams his palm down on the big red, white and blue launch button>Star Spangled Banner blasts from Dolby Atmos Speakers set up across the entire Mexican and Canadian Borders>Wall belches atomic fire as it ascends into the sky>All of the Midwest is treated to the spectacle of the entire wall flying across the heavens>Slams down on Canadian/American Border>Truedea cries extra hard that night while he watches his wife make love to refugeesScreencap this, History will redeem me
>>110355814>https://discord.gg/aRUeRits still like all compact cause of the mountains.
>>110344964>all those rails centered around going to Miamii live there and i still hate this idea
>>110354702Faggot.
>>110354702I was driving through the USA; I was so fucking pissed when I got to Illinois and they wanted me to pay stupid ass tolls to get through their shithole state with their retarded drivers and pothole infested roads.
>>110356222check'd
>>110356222They're converting the HOV lane on 880 to paid HOV bullshit.
>>110349916When we build the space elevator we will get rid of free floating satellites. Orbital rings can be built at any altitude and any inclination, so we'd just hook payloads to the ring structures wherever we want them and let them hang in place rather than orbit.After the first orbital ring elevator (around $450B), successive rings cost only about $1-2B a piece.It takes about 10 sequential rings to reach geosynchronous altitude if you are using kevlar as your elevator material between rings, so we'd want at least 10 rings.If you to be able to move anywhere on Earth quickly, we might eventually want something like 100 east-west rings and 100 north-south rings.If you'd like to travel from Los Angeles to Sydney, then you just go up an elevator in LA, traverse the ring system in space, and back down an elevator in Sydney. All of this is essentially free because you recover your climbing energy in LA on the descent in Sydney and similarly recover your acceleration around the Earth in the deceleration phase.At a comfy 1g of acceleration, the ride up an elevator to 300km orbital ring height takes around 5 minutes.Traversing the orbital ring system over some ~14,000 km would require a further 40 minutes.At about 95% efficiency in recovering energy, that would put the marginal cost of a sub-one hour trip between LA and Sydney at something like $100 allowing for payload size of 1200 kg / person (similar to major airliners).
>>110344964Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.
>>110356662It was done years ago, now it is simply being extended all the way through Fremont into San Jose itself. Fees will help pay for the BART extension to Santa Clara.
>>110356711We don't have a suitable material in industrial quantities to build one. Nothing we have except for carbon nanotubes has a tensile strength high enough.
>>110344964Nice Crop Dumb Fuck
This is a better map of proposed corridors, ones which quality for federal money.
>>110348727Good thing I'm in the navy, freeze me for my reenlistment in 3020
>>110352346This was something put out in 2013. I believe this proposal was touted by Obama but it never got done.Jesus Christ, Obama really did nothing. They can complain about Republican obstructionism all they want, but the man had no ability to work with people. Instead, he'll cry about his inability to get gun control expanded.
>>110356929
>>110347141smooth curves.. higher speed. eliminate the need for close to city stops..cities will move towards these points if it is effective.speed.. speed speed. 220 is slow.. 400 maglev shit is ONLY POINT
>>110358152stealing
>>110356222> the nimitz freeway is usually backed up from Vacaville all the way into Berryessa during commute hours> MFW "the nimitz" (880) runs from san jose to oakland, period. full stop.> Even More MFW the route from vacaville to berryessa is 80 to 505 to state highway 128, unless you wanna go through napa and the 121. > Ultimate MFW theres ZERO hov lanes along that route. the paid hov lanes ARE a pilot program, and no, there are no new ones planned. > it affects more than 10 million drivers you mean 10 million drivers see them and drive on by every year. i notice you used AFFECT instead of EFFECT, because there is no EFFECT, just feels. why must you be a slimy lying sack of shit?
I can get on board with this tran.
>>110357097Incorrect. Kevlar is perfectly fine for orbital ring space elevators because the elevator is only ~300km high rather than the ~40,000 you are typically told (lied to) is necessary.
>>110357858>high-speed>above 79 mphI'll take the comfy Hyperloops daddy Elon proposed over shitty diesel passenger Amtraks any day.
>>110358434create highspeed shuttles to these points if its a major city.. most cities thanks to the orginal freeway plan are close in line.
>>110358461Spread it like wild fire. Found on deep web 4chan
>>110358463look you seem really butthurt, the fact is that caltrans express lane program brings them in a lot of money so they're expanding it
>niggers are still trying to make the rail road system compatible in the age of planes
>>110357049I thought that was just 80 and 580. Pretty sure north 880 up through Oakland didn't have it.Fuck BART though. Shit is worthless for late night.
>>110358627hyperloops are a meme the japs won't even have a maglev system until the 2030susing off the shelf tech just werks
>>110358712thanks m80have some tendies.
>>110359037It hasn't even begun:http://www.vta.org/projects-and-programs/highway/silicon-valley-express-lanes
>>110344964Most of those rail lines would be a waste of money. The best one is the eastern seaboard one.
>>110356711Basically we make the earth look something like this?sounds sick. I'm all for it.
>>110344964no.... this is the dumbest fucking idea.....if we built these rail lines, it'd interfere with current infrastructure, roads, and farm land.
Mexico is paying for the wall we can have both.
>>110356328why're you linking me this gay ass discoard
>>110359359more like halo rings
Can we omit the part that goes into Canada?I don't want all those Muslims coming in on it.
>>110359060It's a way better thing to invest in than these ugly slow 1970s Amtrak trains people keep memeing into the definition "high speed rail", if we had to stick to rail for another couple decades at least learn something from the japs and chinks and make trains that can go 200+ MPH that look all sleek and neat.
>>110359467I didn't i must've misclicked.
>Connecting MSP with ChicagoNo thanks
>>110358463"Affect" is the proper word there, retard.
>>110359414Hell, Mexico can pay for both.
>>110346444sadly the mexican border is too high latitude for a space elevator. needs to be closer to the equator
>>110344964You're an idiot with no idea how useless this is. You'll be paying for this bullshit and it's going to be exorbitant to both ride and build.Have you even graduated high school yet?
>>110344964The thing about these train ideas is it would only make sense to take the train if its cheaper than an airplane flight. Substantially cheaper. You know looking at current train prices its literally more expensive to take a train than a plane in many cases, not only in the US but Europe as well. Its pretty annoying.
>>110344964We can do that AND a wall
>be geographer>watching people on 4chan debate high-speed rail
>>110359862i know "affect" is the right word. because there is no EFFECT, numbnuts. if the paid hov lanes actually had some tangible impact on anyone's life, then there would be an EFFECT that this faggot could complain about. but there aint. all he has is "affect". he feels ways about things, and thats whats really important in his life. i guess you got your pussy hat screwed on too tight, or did mustafa ride your ass too hard?
>>110346532how are you going to survive a sharp 90-degree turn though?
>>110360786> geographer> literally the last tier of science on the edge of the humanities cesspit.> one turgid phrase or melancholy observation away from being a poetry major
>>110344964Illinois wants to, but its gonna cost like 100Billion.Fuck that, its to much. Also have you ever ridden a train? Its expensive and people are akin to greyhound (hobos, drifters, and felons). Ill take a plane or drive
>>110360963tilt-a-whirl padded walls. or maybe those curved benches from the magic teacups ride...
>>110344964That rail system will cost way more than the wall
>>110344964Japan has perhaps the best rail system in the world and also taught me a valuable lesson. I can take trains from Sapporo to Osaka for around $250 and spend my entire day in transit or take a two hour flight from New Chitose to Kansai for around $55.
>>110360963Just dont die, it's simple
>>110361289What it like being retarded
>>110345133I thought that was already the secret that was leaked to /pol/
>>110360582Can I get a better image or quick rundown of that wall?
>>110361874edgy af
>>110353143member when simpsons had funny jokes?
>>110346444Triplicate digits indicate truthLet's make it happen
>>110346532You're gridlines are so fucking terrible.How would one go from Chicago to Dallas? Reroute in either New York or LA first?Do you really believe you are the first person to imagine US continental transportation as a grid? Or are you just the first one to not realize how retarded it is after 5 seconds of thought?
>>110347141Nigga, you can use grids on a sphere. Latitude and longitude lines are a gridA transcontinental grid wont work because of mountains and shit, though. It'll be a lot more practical to just go from major city to major city
>>1103596291970s era Amtrak trains cost (maybe) $1 million a mile and can use the existing tracks as both commuter and freight trains. Japan's Maglev costs about $290 million per mile. The hyperloop, which needs a completely sealed environment, would likely cost much more.Then there are issues with passenger throughput. A 10-car (800 foot) Amtrak train can hold about 2,000 paying customers. Japan's Maglev will probably hold a third of that, and the hyperloop (based on concept art that envisions a 3 meter wide tube and 4-passenger vehicle) would be comparable to a line of cars which can hold about 50 people. The boarding process is also slower, as the vehicle has to lock into designated dock (as opposed to simply stopping and opening it's doors).Also the only thing that matters is price. Buses are slow and shitty but they're cheap due to a lack of road tolls so they are commonly used.
>>110352580And Juarez, and Monterrey :D
>>110358942you seem really ass blasted over a tiny little experimental program that is OPTIONAL and doesnt have any measurable effect, despite your salty and over-the-top affect.
>>110344964Bernout here,I would instantly endorse a wall if it was packaged like this.
Or just build a super catapult and toss people across the country, catapults are cheaper than trains.
>>110356241>Canada, you're fired.I hurt.
>>110361898i dunno, youre the expert, perhaps you could share your thoughts on the issue? a fucking geographer. at least youre not a leaf. that would be too pathetic.
That must be a fucking nightmare to build and repair.
>>110362525>catapault>cant even launch a 90kg projectile over 300m
>>110344964Wait...It would still take almost two hours to get to portland? At 70mph average I've made the trip in less than 2 hours 30 min wtf.
>>110344964Why do you want the state to provide this? This can better be accomplished with privatizing Amtrak and allowing them to compete with the airline industry.
>>110344964This rail map doesn't consider actual flow of people.There's a reason texas is looking at dallas to houston, not dallas to austin.Basically the creator of this map just picked famous cities, not cities that need, and would use high speed rail.
>>110346444I miss space elevator
>>110362189That's the only image I have, it was posted by someone in another thread.
>>110344964Yes! America needs a thriving Train infrastructure like Europe and Japan!BUILD THAT RAIL!
>>110362985...from where?
>>110344964Yes please
>>110362304Grid coordinates and ground coordinates are vastly different at this scale. Of course you can wrap a sphere in an imaginary grid, that has nothing to do with thousands of miles of "straight" rails. I think either you missed his point, or you agree with him, and you just wanted to say nigga
>>110346532Youve clearly never played sid meiers railroads
>>110362629Lots of temporary and a few permanent jobs
>>110348815California can't do anything right, so the fact that theirs is a boondoggle doesn't necessarily mean that it will be as badly mismanaged elsewhere.
>>110344964>Denver to Juarezthis is a terrible idea
>>110363479>lacking that one critical variable
>>110344964Fuck you and your rail.
>>110363178>privatizing AmtrakSo remove the only passenger service in the US. Private industry wouldn't want to pick up the service, and even if they did they would only attach cars to slow ass freight trains.
>>110349689> any attempt to turn public roads into a privately owned honeypot would be soundly rejected by the voters, and would be anathema to the very basic tenets of republicanism. kek, clearly have not been paying any attention to the current political state if you really think "the voters" are going to stop Republican cramming as much of that USDildo up there ass as they can.
>>110362580at the end of the day, the only thing that has real value in a capitalist society is land valueexplain to me how geography is not relevant
>>110344964Nice try Biden
>>110364017true, california is run by assclowns of the first order, but the shady contractors, grasping land speculators and shiftless cockmongling politicians are the same everywhere. even jew york and chiraq, two cities dominated by the high speed jew and his fetish for trains still dont have "high speed rail"jews cant resist a train ride. how do you think they got tricked into the cattle cars? plus, since somebody else is always paying for it, the trains are FREE (from the kike perspective) rail travel is the jews favorite trick to cuck a nation. look at all the muzzies imported into germoney by rail.
>>110346618Nobody wants to go to Indianapolis.Also Mike Pence vetoed state funding for high speed rail so people would use his toll-road. He's the reason why the project is dead in the Midwest.
>>110344964Buffalo should be in bold lettering you dumb fuck
>>110364636typical leftist fearmongering. the voters dont want it, republicans dont want it, but democrats want to make us THINK it's coming. just like the tranny internment camps, right wing death squads and house to house searches for mexicans. you jews never stop using the same old tricks.
>>110363178>privatize amtrakAmtrak operates at a loss, it unable to be privatized
>>110361898If you were drowning I would stick a water hose in your mouth
>>110365141Pence didn't, Kasich and Walker did. Indiana never got to that stage in the first place because of it's low population.
>>110365405>republicans dont want itThe hell they don't. Every fucking year they push that shit in state legislatures; the only thing keeping them from doing it is the law on prohibiting federally funded highways from turning into toll roads.
>>110365735correction, amtrak operates at a MASSIVE lossi couldnt survive without huge federal grants and the slavish devotion of the east coast rootless cosmopolitan's feverish love of trains seriously, they cant get enough of rail travel. everyone else recognizes it as the second shittiest form of travel, its barely better than a bus.
>>110366240> republicans push it every year citation needed.
>>110344964Do this!
>>110359118You american or asian?Japan/Philippians #1 asian country friends <3
>>110366470It's been very successful on the state level, especially in Texas and Florida.
>>110367245Forgot to add:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_toll_roads_in_the_United_States
>>110344964We're gettin' that wall train. It's a two-fer.
>>110366239Maybe I'm misremembering things.
>>110366246Kek, just checked the statements, accumulated deficit of $33.6 billion. The sad thing is I would actually ride on it if I didn't have to pay airline-tier fares to take 4 hours longer than if I had driven.
>>110344964This can only be an option if they include a car transporter service as well.Imagine, drive your car onto a train, get out, get into a cozy cabin and cruise from New York to Chicago, then hopping another train down to Texas. Get there well rested with your vehicle.
>>110367245>>110367496Christ. The people who propose and approve of toll roads should be shot.
>>110367245and it's pushed by republicans...every fucking year? the fact that theres a few toll roads in texas doesnt prove your claims. i googled that shit and found NOTHING except slate, hypothesising that trump (being the devil himself, as well as literally hitler...) MIGHT propose such a thing, and of course thats why he should be impeached, under the provisions of the Pre-Crime bill, which doesnt exist yet, but theres always the Pre-Pre-crime billand some wackadoo leftist blog from 2 years ago claiming ebil rethuglicans want to privatize roads, so they can push children into traffic or some such nonsense, yet they didnt have a single proposed bill or measure that might turn a state or federal road into a toll rod, they just had wild claims, like you. time for you to prove your claims or shut your whore mouth.
>>110367966You are, Indiana is an odd case because the Hooiser State train is partially privatized despite having the lowest Amtrak ridership of all routes. Nobody really knows why it exists, but Pence never sought to end it. More to the point in 2013 Pence had Indiana pump money into some improvements to Amtrak's Blue Water and Wolverine trains which service the northern bit of the state.
>>110352274Like that fuckwad who was trying to sneak into Disneyland and got hit by the monorail.
I would like to see it. I would happily use it - $100 a seat would be fine for me for SouthFL to NY Kinda neglecting the Northwest there
>>110344964AWESOME NOW SHITSKINS CAN FLOOD TO OTHER PARTS OF OUR COUNTRY AT LIGHTSPEED!No, we need to kick out these savages, that is our first priority. We can use the money not spent on welfare and law enforcement for the rails.
>>110347251>meme powered high speed rail doubles as a Mexican crusherfuggin genius
>>110346444>it's an America conquers space episode
>>110344964Planes exist.
>>110368099toll roads are par for the course east of the mississippi river, and texas is just texas>>110368119>time for you to prove your claims or shut your whore mouth.https://www.wsj.com/articles/congress-strikes-compromise-on-5-year-highway-bill-1449001406http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2015/05/highway-trust-fund-basics-a-primer-on-federal-surface-transportation-spending>Collectively, these measures show that states have the capacity and willingness to determine their infrastructure spending at the state level without relying on Highway Trust Fund mandates or large gas tax hikes. Repealing the ban on tolling on segments of the interstate highway system, which are owned by the states in which they are located, would further states’ ability to self-fund their transportation systems.http://www.concordcoalition.org/issue-briefs/2016/0223/fixing-highway-trust-fund>The transportation financing commission also recommended a number of possible alternatives that Congress could look towards. These include a national vehicle registration fee, a drivers license surcharge, a carbon tax, a vehicle sales tax, taxing local transit fares, and expanded use of tolls.http://thefederalist.com/2014/07/14/republicans-should-stop-bailing-out-the-highway-trust-fund/more specific examples:http://www.wthr.com/article/house-republican-road-plan-includes-highway-tolling-optionshttp://www.politico.com/states/new-jersey/story/2016/02/republican-suggests-tolling-interstate-highways-031447http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/gop-ouster-of-inslee-appointee-may-preview-campaign-theme/http://www.njassemblyrepublicans.com/could-tolls-on-free-highways-fund-ttf-mike-davis-bymikedavis-523-p-m-edt-april-21-2016/
>>110346618That's actually St. Louis buddy
>>110344964Sweet yeezie yes.>[Also want nations Telephone wires put underground..]
>>110344964>chiraq being the main hub of anythingthat is a terrible Idea
>>110344964the trains definitely need to run to Deerborne, MIIt's populated with hardworking folk that deserve a chance to travel in trains!
>>110348815>"high speed rail" is a boondoggle. >california
MAG LEV BABY
>>110348815>highspeed rail is a waste because of land speculation>much larger 6 lane highway isn'tokay
>>110356929kys
>>110348221What about the pink line connecting Jacksonville to Juarez?
>>110359400Whoa.
I would prefer a Trump Train instead of wall, shit make the train even travel thru Mexico I would would love to go to Cancun with a 20/1 peso to dollar ratio, I could probably rent the presenting suite. would be EPIC!
>>110344964Can we build the rail so it just drops off in California, New York, and Illinois?
>>110345636Space elevators are completely infeasible regardless of tech level.The main reason is because once you discover the material needed to build the tether, you've been able to build other non-rocket launch systems for centuries. See space fountain, skyhooks, and launch loops.I cannot stress how far my opinion falls of someone when they talk about space elevators as something to strive for.
>>110344964Fuck I'm all for this Make a general for thisGot a meme into existence
>>110380875>Microwaves are completely infeasible regardless of tech level.>The main reason is because once you discover the principle needed to build the cavity, you've been able to build fires and burn gas for centuries. See wood, electric, gas.>I cannot stress how far my opinion falls of someone when they talk about microwaves as something to cook with.
