So I went to visit my old prof in Cambridge who i did a phd with, beacuse he was hosting his retiring party.Anyway long story short we get talking. He had a lot to say about Elon Mask.Apparatenlty Elon Mask is a total fraud and dumb as bricks. Its all going to crumble one day and all his investors have no idea.He is pulling of one of the biggest scams of 21st century with his space programme and Tesla.
>>108097762Could you elaborate?
>>108097762My dad said the same thing. He said Elon came to nintendo one day and he was a real dummy
Cool.My dad works for Nintendo and says you can find Mew under the truck.
>>108097762A South African is better at launching stuff in space than the whole British Empire and it makes you mad
>>108098106 Really because my dad said he came to sony one day and said he was real dummy.
Doesn't matter. He has the money to commit to R&D.
>>108097762Yeah, my dad worked at Ford and said when they inspected the Tesla they literally laughed because it was so shittily made. Said not even our own shitty workers could do this poorly.
>>108097762Elon Musk owns the company and employs hundreds of talented intelligent workers.A good company doesn't rely on the intelligence of one man. He's essentially just the figurehead. The head of state.OP, which college did you go to and what was your PhD?
better than the other dickless corporate jews who are currently in control of all the major corporations. At least this guy seems to care about people
>>108097762His space program is a literal ponzi scheme, using US Gov funds to pay Russians to get his stuff into space cause his own rockets keep blowing up
My dad said the same thing. He said Elon came to Carl's Jr. one day and he was a real dummy
>>108097762Funny, a PhD who cannot write well.I call bullshit.
>>108098868Agreed. He is more like Zuckerberg, a total retard but still successful.
I work for Musk and I can confirm he is actually a robot.
>>108099415>capitalism worksFuck you Bernie
>>108097762happy cringing gentlemenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KK_kzrJPS8
They've been saying that for a while now and he's been shitting on their predictions over and over again.
>>108097762wtf I hate space and electric cars now
FUD posting is getting elaborate. I wonder who sponsored this post?
>>108098496/Bread
My dads a 6'4 chef at Wendy's with a 9 inch cock and he said the same thing. He said Elon came into Wendy's one day and he was a real dummy.
>>108098155I like that there actually was a way to glitch and catch Mew in the end.
Let's see tesla make money for more than a few months before we declare it successful. Until recently tesla has made basically no moneyI hate him more because Reddit worships him then anything else
>>108099921My life is already cringy enough, I can't handle this
>>108097762No wonder his rockets always blow up.
My dad said the same thing. He said Elon came into Red Robin one day and he was a real dummy.
>>108097762Its actually true. I make airbag inflators and apparently we had a meeting with Tesla people about contracts. The Tesla team showed up in extremely casual clothes and apparently the meeting was embarrassing to say the least. I always knew this guy was full of shit.
>>108100561I think the most important thing we learned this election is...Always bet against redditNo exceptions
>>108099415How is zuckerberg a retard
>>108101296elaborate
>>108097762>My old nobody jealous professor says elon in a fraud.Yeah ok op.Real good thread.
>>108101296>>108101376>>108100561>>108097762Yeah, I'm sure Elon Tesla is just a huge fraud who just happened to get accepted into Stanford University's PhD engineering program. I'm sure that was just a big fluke.
>>108097762This. He will be brutally exposed, as technology that has been classified, like the kind used on 9/11, gets declassified for prosperous use.It will ultimately usher out the fossil fuel era.Yay free energy
>>108097762>1 post by this ID
>>108097762http://www.focus.de/auto/elektroauto/interview-mit-friedrich-indra-es-gibt-einen-hass-gegen-verbrenner-motoren-papst-rechnet-mit-elektromobilitaet-ab_id_6512817.htmlElectric cars are a scam
>>108097762>So I went to visit my old prof in Cambridge who i did a phd withFiver says non STEM field.
>>108097762I saw Elon Musk at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
>>108101420Got lucky with penisbook marketing and selling info. At least musk creates cool shit and thats all that matters.
>>108099145Honestly wtf are you talking about? There's no money going to Russia from SpaceX
>>108097762he can't even speak properly
>>108101704>I have a degree, therefore I can't scam people or make stupid decisions Kek k retard
>>108101460Can't really, I wasn't there. I just make the explosives, I'm not management. I was just told the story by our safety and hazard guy.
>>108101704Sam Harris doesn't know anything about philosophy or neuroscience and he still got a PhD at UCLA. Barack Obama never wrote a single law editorial and yet he became President of the Harvard Law Review.Never doubt our ability to propel even the dumbest cronies through pedigreed institutions. Especially when it's politically expedient.
>>108097762Elon is in good company
My dad said the same thing. He said Elon came into Burger King one day and he was a real dummy.
My dad knows Mr Nintendo personally and said Mario Mask is dumb as a bomb-omb
my peepop didn't work 20 hours in a coal shaft each day so a bald cuck can come along and build faggy plug in cars and horde billions of dollars
My dad said the same thing. He said he came into elon one day and he was a real cummy.
>>108098249FOOKIN PRAWNS
>>108099921What the fuck is wrong with him? He looks worse than Baron.
>>108097762>My prof said that that Musk is dumb and a fraud and all his companies will crumbleFascinating, who gives a shit?I think he bought bonds in Tesla using SpaceX fund or something like that, which is insane, and that Tesla is kept afloat on gibsmedat, but what are the actual details besides "my prof says tesla sucks"?
>>108097762I had the opportunity to chat with Elon musk. He was wildly stupid.
>>108097762>1 post by this IDI don't know whether to sell my bit of Tesla stock.
Musk is a sperg who worked his ass off and ended up in charge of the companies that will shape the future of mankind.Don't get butthurt because an aspie with a vision for the future is orders of magnitude more successful than you.
>>108103610Ah didn't quite get it right, bought bonds in solar city, which Tesla bought. So same thing in the end.
>1 postNice try general motors shill
>>108097762Who do I invest in to make money when he fails?
>>108097762>He is pulling of one of the biggest scams of 21st century with his space programme and Tesla.Tesla is just selling expensive shit to rich liberals and jews. Same as yacht manufacturers.The space program looks fairly legit, but don't see how it's profitable.His idea to send people to Mars is nuts though. It's the most awful environment imaginable. There is literally nothing there of interest.
>a bunch of transferred NASA employees>a bunch of old NASA tech documentation Wooow, that dude is sooo smart, he's totally gonna bring the future to us, reddit. Private space programs are so cool (just ignore that it is yet to create something new).
>>108102019musk scams investors and leeches off of government grants. his rockets are old soviet pieces of shit that poor ivan digs out of the ground and sells to spacex.i think he's brilliant for playing the system like a violin, but his businesses are garbage.
>>108105437WE DID IT, LEDDIT
>>108097762>1 post by this id
>>108105433>His idea to send people to Mars is nuts though. It's the most awful environment imaginable. There is literally nothing there of interest.Aside from the geological and possibly biological history of an almost entirely untouched world to study and learn from, sure. Nothing. That's not why he wants to send people there, though. His single purpose in life, as he's stated every single time he talks about the future of Spacex and his goals, is to make humanity a multiplanetary species, in order to make it more difficult for us to go extinct. He's concerned about the survival of the species, first and foremost, and the best way to do that is to establish off-planet colonies. Having lots of human populations on many celestial bodies, insulated by millions of miles of empty space from the wars and natural disasters that could befall the others, is a much more viable strategy than keeping everyone cooped up on the same planet, where we could all simultaneously fall prey to supervolcanoes, enormous asteroids, or our own weapons.
>>108097762YEAH, BECAUSE EARTH IS FLAT, THERE'S NO OUTER SPACE YOU DUMBASSES
>>108105437
The earth is flat and it's not possible to go to mars or the moon. Once you realize this all it's extremely obvious all the space cons that are taking place.
>>108098106>>108098409My dad said the same thing. He said Elon came to Microsoft one day and he was a real dummy
>>108097762You know a lot of academics have an innate petty jealousy of those in industry
>>108101420How is Zuckerberg not a retard?He had the largest, fastest growing social media on earth and what he's done is made it boring, useless, attention-whoring circlejerk.He just made people more boring. Facebook is as fun as when it didn't exist. Love how 80% of the content is "tag your friend who would love to take your cock up his ass".And they say 4chan humor is shit.
>>108098106kek
>>108097762>muh Elon Musk is dum bruh>he totally didn't create the best electric car in the market>he totally doesn't have the most advanced rockets>he totally isn't bankrupting the ULA jewBoeing/Lockmart shill GTFO
>>108097762>Its all going to crumble one day and all his investors have no idea.Close, but no cigar. He sure is a fraud but everyone who needs to know does and Tesla will be fine as long as his puppetmasters have a use for it. Dude is a deep state stooge just like Zucks.
>prof telling a story about how someone else is a fraud and that they would totally do better than themThis is literally every professor ever
Elon's playing the long con. Invent an autonomous electric vehicle, invent a rocket that can take off and land. Mwhahahaha, they are all falling right into the trap of this idiot.
>>108097762>Elon Mask is a total fraud and dumb as bricksI've had occasion to speak with him. You couldn't be more wrong if you were a media matters troll.
>>108101878And they'll save the enviroment too!:https://youtu.be/pqcmMJrKcbI
>>108099370kek
>>108097762Think of Elon Musk like this>He's this annoying boy>Still knows how to look cool>Still somehow knows how to get funds from the government>Lets everybody else work for him, do the cool stuff, brags about it being him to come up with all the cool stuff>Some cool stuff actually comes out>Still, nothing really specialAll his wealth comes from your government's funds. but some of the directions he's taking are legitimately cool.
>>108097762but the space x scientists and engineers have come up with some brilliant shit.
>>108097762That's true>Its all going to crumble one day and all his investors have no idea.Those "investors" are all newbies, because you must be fucking retarded to buy into (probably) the most volatile stock that's being bailed by the government constantly. I personally do not give the slightest fuck as their retardation makes skilled investors' work profitable. Also, if you're looking for a long-term auto manufacturer stock to hold onto, go with Toyota. Oh, and short Tesla mid-2017
>>108097762But Tesla appears to have been a solid investment. You don't actually think Musk is out in the garage designing and building cars and spaceships do you? He hires people who know how to do those things like any good manager would.
>>108097762 found the oil lobbiest
>>108097762Of course he's a fraud. He's a "futurist" aka a person who dreams of sci fi shit but has no idea how to do anything himself.But he's able to hire talented people and beat them with sticks until they're docile and compliant and spit out results, just like Bezos did with Amazon and Thomas Edison did with his slave workers. He's going to go down in history just as Edison has.
>>108114575thishe's a crony capitalist, nothing more, nothing less
>>108097762Of course he is anon, (pic related)
He seems like a pretty cool guyImagine if soros just want to travel to other planets instead of destroy western civilization
>>108113558Also forgot to add, the general consensus is that TSLA's stock price is overpriced by about 50% and that the real value of the company lies around the $140 stock price range (as opposed to the current $244). The sole reason for the high over-valuation is the hype he generates by talking constantly. Maybe he could've ran for senate or president with a campaign for a technocracy-like government if he wasn't from SA, at least he's good at rallying baseless hype from the nerds and would get some relevant support, even if he's autistic and stutters
>>108109812My dad can beat up your dad.
>>108113300You people are incredibly stupid. His wealth came from zip2 and paypal. He currently sells cars to private individuals, and launches rockets his company builds for private businesses and the government.
its true ask weevhttp://www.dssk.press/elon-musk-is-an-obvious-fraud/
>>108097762The reason this guy is even popular is because he makes unaccomplished people feel good about "saving the environment with SCIENCE."Every retard who worships this guy builds some narrative that he's a self-made genius who has dedicated himself to saving the planet Elon Musk is a meme
>>108115634hed probly be bankrupt multiple times over without all the free govt money he gets
>>108116350What free government money?
>>108097762kill yourself kike.
>>108097762Brit bong go to bed you retard
>>108097762>great works of self-insert fiction
>>108106058So his end game is just to get rich? Are electric cars just a meme?
>>108102885I wasn't ready man. You got me.
>>108099921holy god hes dumber than i ever imagiend what the FUCK
>>108097762I don't think you or your prof understand how this world works.Money talks cheap asses walk.It doesnt matter how dumb he is. If he can afford to hire scientists to develop his projects hes golden.HE personally isnt developing the rockets in Space Xget real you autistic fuck. Most Royalty are borderline retard from inbreeding yet they have masses of wealth...NOT cause they are smart, but cause money gets more money.
>>108116611http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html> Elon Musk's growing empire is fueled by $4.9 billion in government subsidies
>>108111054lol this is probably true
>>108117363Oh you're one of those retards that think a tax credit for other individuals is a government subsidy and that loans you pay back early are free government money.
>>108097762>Its all going to crumble one day and all his investors have no idea.Quick super spy. make some money from informing them.
>>108117363Who cares. The idea was he could make a viable electric car of the future. You saying its impossible? We might as well try.
>>108098106well that is weird, my dad said the same thing. He said Elon came to nokia one day and he was a real dummy
>>108097762I thought everyone knew this. He doesn't do anything but sell shit he made with government loands. The dude is a meme engineer like Jobs.
>>108098106wtf guys, my Dad who works at 4chan said the same thing.
I've talked about Elon Musk scam a lot in the past. He is just a tech shill orchestrated and deigned by (((them))) to impose carbon tax.If you watch this video you will actually see how retarde he really is, he struggles to put together a sentencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju94O8vD1XkHe did not introduce anything new-electric cars have existed for 100 years-solar city does not do anything revolutionary, they simply lease solar panels-SpaceX simply dreams about going to Mars, but doesn't do anything productive...etc
>>108098106My dad said he came to Mozart's Schnitzelhouse one day and couldn't even cook a wiener.
>>108099388This
>>108097762>his investors have no ideaThis is a good meme.
anyone who is responsible for a design like this should probably be shot in the head.
>>108097762http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-06/how-elon-musk-used-broken-marketplace-play-us-all
So, is anyone going to say why he's a fraud or was OP full of shit as usual?
>>108101420>dropped out of Harvard>made a shitty websiteSeems pretty retarded to me, unless the Kikes promised him that he'd be successful from day one
>>108111054100% true.
>>108117698uhhhhh they are you can sell them
>>108118887>shittyearly facebook was god-tier anon
>>108108685>His single purpose in life .... is to make humanity a multiplanetary speciesExcept that this is obviously false. We have the ability to colonize Mars today, but not by following the roadmap outlined by Musk.Musk proposes that we resign ourselves to leaving Earth via rockets, that is to say, he insists that leaving Earth should always be extremely expensive and therefore rare and without much self-sustaining economic rationale.Instead, we should be pursuing the fact that a space elevator is both technologically possible and extremely cheap today.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qezLhypA0Y [Embed] [Embed]The key idea is the Orbital Ring version of the space elevator, not the geosynchronous tether concept you are familiar with.See, for example, Paul Birch's writings:http://www.orionsarm.com/fm_store/OrbitalRings-I.pdfThe orbital ring only requires tethers about 300 kilometers long which is technically feasible with common material like steel, but ridiculously straightforward with better and already available material like kevlar.
>>108119220There are some important questions. First, how much would it cost to do something like this?We need to send about 160 million kilograms of material into space (See Birch's boot strap estimates in part 2: http://www.orionsarm.com/fm_store/OrbitalRings-II.pdf)We have rockets available at $2000/kg costs to LEO today in "mass production" mode, which is only about 10-20 launches per year. Compared with the couple thousand launches necessary for a space elevator, $2000 is an unreasonably high upper bound for launch costs.We also need to include the cost of materials. A space elevator is about 98% steel and aluminum, 1% kevlar, and 1% other such as superconducting magnets. Most of the mass (98%) cost around $1/kg, with an average cost per kilogram of no more than about $10 per kilogram.Summing the above up, we get about $430 billion in launch costs plus another $1-2 billion in material costs.In other words, we can have a space elevator for less than $450 billion - significantly less than one year worth of DoD spending, one bank bailout, many times less than a variety of pointless wars, etc. This is well within our reach financially in other words.
>>108117698you smug fucking idiotget some humility you useless moron piece of trash
>>108118887he's from jewish family so...
>>108097762If he is so dumb, why did you make millions with Paypal?pic not related
>>108102880kek'd hard
>>108098496///Thread///
>>108119300What do we get in return for this $450 billion investment?Virtually unlimited value. For example, with a space elevator we can reliably launch our nuclear waste into the sun. We've spent $100 billion building a waste repository in Nevada, but it was ultimately decided not to even use it. Now it costs only a dollar or two per kilogram to get rid of all of the nuclear waste in the world.Second, we have immediate access to viable asteroid mining industry. Because the cost of delivering payloads to LEO drops to about $1/kilogram, we can not retrieve asteroids with trillions of dollars worth of minerals for mere tens millions of dollars in addition to having an easy viable way of returning those resources back to the surface.We acquire the ability to deploy profitable solar power in orbit above cloud cover and with the ability to return said power back to the surface with near zero loss by running power transmission cables down the elevator.Just how profitable?With increased luminosity in space, enhanced exposure time, and the ability to deliver base loads, solar panels pay for themselves in only 1-2 years while having a 20 year life time.In other words, if you put $5 trillion of solar panels into space, you get your $5 trillion back by the end of year two and a $5 trillion income stream each year thereafter.In other words, the US could cut everyone's taxes, both personal and business, income, capital, death, or otherwise, all to 0%, not even cut any benefits or current spending, and pay off the national debt within a decade.
>>108101903Add some ketchup to your pasta. It's stale and inedible.
ITT: Jealous Dumb poorfags
>>108105433>His idea to send people to Mars is nuts though. It's the most awful environment imaginable. There is literally nothing there of interest.You underestimate how interested people are in being able to live on a planet with 0.0000% niggers, even if it means living in a metal box with five other people total.
The hyperloop is a good example.He is pouring money in to he retarded dream project which will never work in practice...
>>108119220And how are you going to get your orbital ring into space?
>>108097762well he buys into the "we're all in a simulation" maymay so he's obviously a retard
>>108119666Witnessed Praise Kek
>>108119532>retrieve asteroids with trillions of dollars worth of minerals for mere tens millions of dollars in addition to having an easy viable way of returning those resources back to the surface.Buttfuck the economy like a mad cunt, but I like the idea anyway
>>108119532Here you can see why the fraud perpetrated by the likes of Elon Musk is so important to maintaining the status quo for the regime.The desire for mankind to reach to the stars, to strive for something greater has to be subverted because this desire immediately leads to an unburdening of the species of the weight of governments.Not only is a space elevator possible today, building a space elevator leads immediately to massive economic growth, obviates the need for taxation, unburdens the world of the debt-scheme frauds, and so on.In short, proper dreaming of reaching for the stars frees mankind in a broadly systemic way. Therefore your attention must be directed away from what can work in a self-sustaining and profitable way towards ultimately pointless one-off endeavors like brief visits to Mars with no schema for supporting sustainable adventure.People like Musk and their misdirection can only thrive in an environment of ignorance though. Relieve yourself of it, and then do the same to others.
>>108097762Doesn't really matter if Musk is stupid, he has hundreds of incredibly bright people working under him. You don't need someone incredibly intelligent to sell a company, you just need a smart figurehead. I'm not convinced Elon is actually stupid, I think he probably contributes in some way to his company. But it doesn't matter, because he sells the ideas well enough and there's enough behind him that it's all working out.If you're actually as educated as you claim to be I feel like you'd know this.
>>108119935he seemed to buy into it then also say we were the 1 in a billion LMFAO Elon Please
>>108119329You think a loan he paid back early is free government money and expect to be taken seriously?
>>108117337the thing is sir. he is not personally hiring people. he is doing this with other poeple's money.tesla will never make money. every half year they say "this is the last capital raise we will ever need" and then theres another one in 6 months because its bleeding money. look at the executive turnover. does not spell good things.
>>108101903I saw this copy pasta on /sci/ but with Michio Kaku
>>108119532Why on earth would we want to launch nuclear waste into the sun when it can be burned in modern reactors?
>>108120356yea the loans are all he gets LMFAOGET GASSED>The figure compiled by The Times comprises a variety of government incentives, including grants, tax breaks, factory construction, discounted loans and environmental credits that Tesla can sell. It also includes tax credits and rebates to buyers of solar panels and electric cars.
>>108097762>Maskpls
>>108097762>>108098106>>108098409>>108117865>>108118052>>108118212My dad said he came to the White House one day and he was real little league.
>>108120578You are incredibly stupid.
>went to Stanford >richer than everyone in this thread combined Who are you calling a dumbass again?
>>108101903Please stop this pasta lol, i've seen this so many times over the years for different celebs
>>108119140If you started using it when you were 12 like me because all the cool kids were doing it then yeah, if you like holding onto nostalgic memories
>>108120266it's just shit people say to make others think they are smart. there are about 6 gorillion holes in the argument for simulation and at the end of the day, if the simulation is as rich in complexity and information as the actual universe then what's the fucking difference?It would make more sense to say we will someday come up with the technology to create another universe and that all universes are recursively created in this way.
>>108101501Nice strawman. Just because he may be a nobody that doesn't make Elon not a fraud.
>>108099850>Mr. BurgerGod bless, America!
>>108120176Have you considered Musk may want to do this, but there are people on Earth who DONT want a Space Elevator?
>>108097762Scientists can be very vindictive if they are jealous. Their Car works I do not understand how this is a scam. The product fucking works and mercedes/vw/audi/porsche also bring products to the market. How can it be a scam.I think he is just jealous if he exists.
>>108098249South Africa was part of the British Empire you white flag waving piss flap.
>>108097762my dad is elon musk and i've the sub 80 IQ to prove it
>>108098249>Why would you want to move to South Ifrika?>But but but you're blek!
>>108121050yeah, the only genius behind facebook was copying myspace and then making it exclusive by only allowing access at elite colleges, then at colleges. All the highschoolers wanna imitate the cool college kids, and the middle schoolers wanna imitate the cool high school kids, and the adults wanna pretend they are still hip and fun like they were in college and now BAM 1 billion users, all vapid self absorbed normie cunts afraid of missing out on the newest trend and other people having fun without them. Oh and several people using it to organize group events which it actually works quite well for.
My dad said the same thing. He said Elon came to Tesco one day and was a real dummy.
>>108097762I think your prof is jelly as fuck. Post proof nigger!
Alot of his company is based around harvesting tax dollars from the government. Tesla gets a lot of money through ev credits from California and the only reason anyone buys his cars in the first place is because of the substantial tax breaks and other subsidies. Solar City is completely reliant on certain favorable government policies that require energy providers to effectively subsidize consumer solar panels. He's not a total hack but not nearly the genius people pretend he is.
>>108099921>>108100685>>108103338>>108116995And is he wrong about what he said? You can't say for sure.
>>108121346Except Elon has actually created and continues to create the technology that he promises. How is that fraud?
>>108097762elon isnt a fraud but spaceX wont provide any real innovation. the ammount dumped into spaceX is secretly mostly the american government looking for a replacement to the icbm system. currently and ever since it was created your talking appolo class rockets which are huge , cant be used just any where and cannot be fueled and ready to go. there are no silos waiting to be used at a moments notice that was debunked by the american government. most of the alleged silos are to small to house a appolo class rocket and where toxic waste that varuous states had agreed to have buried on their land for additional government money. icbms have to be assembled then fueled then fired thats time you may not have. solid fuel rockets can be a viable solution since they are not super cold like liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen but spaceX only tested the concept and uses liquid fuel (hydrogen + oxygen) for almost all their test
>>108119569Have you ever tried ketchup with pasta? Fucking disgusting
>>108097762Wtf I hate Elon now
>>108121355It's a scam because the business is only profitable due to government subsidies. Consumers get thousands of dollars in tax credits for buying the cars on top of the already generous subsidies that governments give to electric vehicle producers. Look up california's EV credit system sometime. Tesla gets handed a shit ton of money from other car manufacturers just so they can comply with California EV quotas.
>>108116925He's putting a lot of money in R&D (your burger tax money of course). Many of these ideas are retarded and will end up giving nothing and being a massive scam. Tesla cars I leave to your appreciation, but they still cost much to produce and there just isn't the demand for this type of car.
He builds fucking cars and rockets.Thats already more than the entire BUnited Kingdom is capable of, and certainly much more than what you will EVER EVER achieve. Just let that sink in.
>>108110827It's not like he made electric cars by himself. He is literally funding scientists to break us out of the so-called matrix we live in. What the hell does he expect to accomplish by doing this? Funding this will either lead him nowhere (which will most likely be the case, with millions of dollars lost) or it will fuck up the universe, which will never happen
I could've told you this 4 years ago. This guy is literally the embodiment of a Ted Talk
>>108098106My Dad says that Tesla is a car for girls, and that he's going to get me a Shelby Mustang when I turn 16
>>108097762He's very intelligent just incredibly autistic. Watch an interview, he just has zero social skills and can't convey his message to normies at all.His vision however is actually fucking awesome, more human should be striving towards becoming an interplanetary species. This rock could get absolutely cucked by an asteroid tomorrow and everything the human race (well really just the white race) has worked for will be erased forever.Colonizing other planets is truly securing the existence of our people and a future for white children.>tfw you realize he's a secret techno white nationalist
>>108097762you don't exactly have to be a rocket scientist to be a great businessman. I somewhat doubt Elon is a moron, though.
>>108097762Really not difficult to believe.
Tesla = ScamMusk = Scammer
>>108101704It's the current year. Academia is about as relevant as the media. Between the internet, cheap books outside the academic circuits and many other developments, you have access to more information in your bedroom than in class. Academia is really more of a social club now.
>>108122620EVs are being subsidized by EU too not just America. Also there are cities in germany that in the future will not even allow non electric cars during certain periods to drive there for example Stuttgart and Munich. Paris is planning to ban all cars that have combustion engines.Musk used all of this to his advantage and he will succeed with his Tesla business unless other automakers are going to be better.His business model works and will work the subsidies are working in his favor so what ?
>>108099921wtf is with the looking up and eyes tracking left to right just to remember shitthat's odd as fuck
>>108098106My dad works at Tesla and he said one day Elon came one day and he says he's very dummy
>>108123399Also sustainable energy is a more serious issue than you who've been shilled by the corporatists think. Again, if the earth gets fucked we're fucked.Tesla works towards sustainable energy even though it's not the most immediately profitable thing. If he was a scammer he would just make normal gasoline cars. The average corporation is frauding you pretty hard right now, Elon is trying to show you smallbrains the light.
>>108097762I was all on board for electric cars before this push for autonomous driving startedI see their end game now, They want to ban people from driving on the road, they can can control us better
>>108123711Losing thousands on every unit = successful business model.Tesla = ScamMusk = ScammerMusk = CuckRiley = Cucker
>>108101704The dude just said in the above video that the chances this universe is real (and not a simulation) is 1 in a billion.
>>108098106I am my dad and I know the guy from working at Lego, he's a complete cunt
>>108123886>Again, if the earth gets fucked we're fucked.nah, humans are like roaches. we will survive anything
>>108123769he's just an autist
>>108102245This. Stop falling for the logical fallacy "appeal to authority" when the fucking left is handing out diplomas to their favorite children like Halloween treats.
>>108098106Nice. I'm sick of these newfags
>>108097762To Elon I ask... HOW DO I GET IN ON THE FRAUD?
>>108105300You would short his stock right before it tanks.
>>108120701underrated
>>108123711>subsidizing industries that cannot stop on their own two feetI'm sure it will work out great, just like it did with american car factories and british mines.
>>108124943fug, i meant stand*
>>108124477And autism is not odd?
>>108124082He is not losing thousands on every unit. He make a profit for sure. The thing is he uses the profit for his supercharger free power and to expand the network. But he will not give the energy for free anymore beginning now so everybody buying now will have to pay for the power he will make a very healthy profit and his businessmodel is brilliant. Through kickstarting this race other manufacturers will also build vehicle and increase demand. I am sure he will sell batteries to mercedes and Volkswagen.We will see similar EVs from german manufacturers. With similar or even better range. And they will make profits. So Musk is making profits or the big players would never adopt the same businessmodel.He is not a scammer atleast with Tesla. Maybe with Space X he is I did not look into this.
>>108125060On Tesla cars? Bullshit. They're heavily subsidized and sold for far below cost.
>>108118128he wants a carbon tax because he has an ev company and a solar companyso when gasoline powered shit is expensive enough people go to himthats the thing about renewable, they need to cheat in order to be affordable.. but we need enewables if we want to free ourselves from sandniggers and many other oilniggers like norway
>>108125060Elon Musk's growing empire is fueled by $4.9 billion in government subsidies--LA Times
>>108120787he uses govt money for all the initial issues then either his ponzi scheme works and he dupes investors or he shuts it down having lost nothing. its a pretty good kike scheme but none of these are real businesses or good ideas or good tech
>>108125339Oil is renewable. Don't fall for the dinosaur jew.
>>108125060The Jew is truly our collective misfortune!
>>108125517Two China is Best China!
>>108116925his end game is definitely just to get rich. right now electric cars are a meme; it requires greater capital and energy to manufacture and power the batteries than it does an internal combustion engine with a turbocharger. government subsidies are the only thing keeping electric cars """"""viable""""""
>>108125368> (((la times)))> having the government as a client means subisdydoes that number counts the comercial crw program? i hope not, for the sake of your dignity you baboonese jamal
Starting sentences with "so" makes you sound like a condescending redditfag, pls stop.
>>108097762I was a security guard in the Marshall Islands.Got to meet his staff. They seemed to like him.
>>108125036what i was trying to say that it's nothing unusual for an autist like him
>>108125464sounds like bs but what do i knoweven then, its dependable on geopolitics... too dependable and too jewable, its also too monopolizedits the catastrophe of this era, everything around the oil jew is a shit. from wars with mudslimes, to pipelines, to wars, to spills, to opec, to barrel prices. its all bullshit
>>108125756Cool story Flo.
>>108125196No he makes money or other companies would not copy him. I know people working in the autoindustry they are all trying to come up with the tesla killer.Check here how much he makes per car:http://seekingalpha.com/article/3978806-much-tesla-lose-per-carIf you disagree with those numbers show me the numbers you are basing your claim on and tell me why they are true.In 5 years it will be apparent how big this shit is going to be. People here buy I3s and Teslas more and more people want one. I3 makes a profit too.
>>108098605that's a great joke.t. ford driver
>>108099921He's literally autistic, but most tech people are
COOL FACT:After a total logic power supply loss every Tesla defaults to immediately mapping a route to the nearest Bosley Medical Group location.
>>108125368Other industries get even more subsidies:https://electrek.co/2016/11/25/tesla-subsidies-big-three-oil-industry/Oil Industry for example gets magnitudes more subsidies. His businessmodell works.
>>108126504Fuck off Jude. TESLA loses 19K+ on every vehicle even when amortised looking forward.
>>108127073Oil = proven product.
>>108101376>implying the majority of /pol/'s current userbase aren't newfags from r/the_donaldyou have to le go back xD
>>108098249he's a white south african though, most likely 2-3 generations ago was british
>>108097762>Solar panels for all>produce own energy>All lights can be self-provided for>Get off the oil jew and enjoy free (as in freedom and no cost) energy>This is somehow bad
OP. I just talked to your Prof and we we're laughing at what a dumb fucking idiot you are for believing him. If you have a problem with me, come on down here and say it to my face you cowardly vermin. You swine. You absolutely worthless maggot. You'll never be as rich as me. You'll never be as smart as me. You'll never be the man that is responsible for humanity's leap into Mars.
>>108127259I just showed you numbers where it says otherwise. So stop your faggotry and show me the fucking source you stupid chinese nigger.
>>108127504Solar panels are made from oil. Fuck off.
>>108127782Solar panels are made from silicon anon...
>>108127404>electricity isn't
Tesla's GAAP net loss per vehicle was $19,059.Dumb Jews are dumb and scam Jews will scam.
>>108097762>Elon Mask>Mask
>>108102245UCLA is not Harvard, and i'm willing to put down money that it wasn't an ENGINEERING DEGREE. when will you neets get that not all degrees are made equal
>>108128414Tesla invented electricity! Hoky Smoles!Fuck off retard.
>>108097762He's also going to get 'just' by captain jacks whore ex. >>108124598You donate millions to the current administration then get kick backs in the form of policy (soros), green energy (musk), climate change (gore), or whatever is the hip scam at the moment. (deep sea oil/shale?)
>>108097762>He is pulling of one of the biggest scams of 21st century with his space programme and Tesla.Musk is an actor, why else would he get that much press coveragehe's a CIA frontman
>>108127519>humanity's leap into Mars.Another gullible obese brainless television casualty.
>>108127782>Taiwan intellectuals
>>108097762>Apparatenlty Elon Mask is a total fraud and dumb as bricks. Its all going to crumble one day and all his investors have no idea.What makes your professor think that?I have met any professors who are emotionally unstable, have a shitty life, lots of financial problem (even though they are paid really well), really arrogant asses, autistic, really dense, with a really narrow world view, etc... And I think they are the worst people that could estimate someone else's intelligence.
>>108128320Another 3 way tie for last place "winner".
>>108129155>many
>>108127504>When you get the taxpayers to fund shitty solar panels that are more costly and less efficient than chink shit
How about you pull your thumb out your ass. I'm memeing here you fruitbowl.
>>108128989I'll debate that risible epicene faggot at any time and mindrape him worse than Talulah & MPB did.I guarantee I can make him cry.
>>108129478>>108129195
>>108097762I heard once his company has not made one dime, it's all been government subsidies
>>108129530It's difficult to discern that from actual Musk propaganda if at all.
>>108119385he made billions off paypal
>>108099921yes>>108119532yeah and one rpg from a semi-irritable jihadi and there goes your money
>>108129787Buy his stock...all the hedge fund managers drive a TESLA!!!!!
>>108099850Using this image. Australian are triggered
>>108129895He wasn't PayPal faggot.
>>108119666Witnessed.The number of the beast. The beast of truth.Praise Kek.
>>108129418>Cheaper than normal roof tiles>Generate energy for youWell, you don't have to, but it seems like a waste to me.A good part of this thread shows one of the biggest challenges on the 21st century, those that don't work in tech don't understand how quickly development happens. Kinda sad really.
>>108130156His tiles are fabulous...I've covered my flying car in them!
BETWEEN SOLAR (ENERGY)SPACE X(ROCKETS)AND ENERGY TRANSMISSION (discovered by the real tesla)HE WANTS TO BUILD A FUCKING DEATH STAR.prove me wronga giant solar factoryship in space that can shoot down to the earth beams of energy. japanese scientists have done this already. TESLA himself already invented a death ray
>>108130454Why are you so butthurt about this anon?
>>108130572Man has never and will never trespass beyond LEO on anything but suicide missions and if you believe otherwise you are a drooling dolt.
did anyone else see the falcon 9 reusable launch vehicle test the other day or did i hallucinate that?
>>108130769ingrish prease>>108130572I were him I'd build a damn death star...DO IT PUSSY
>>108130769Its like he fucked your wife. Or maybe he fucked your ass ?
>>108097762Sounds like your professor is jealous. I don't think Musk is the super genius he is made out to be but he has an immense talent for marketing ideas and surrounding himself with winners and attracting people who will work for him for like half of what other places pay less talented people. If he gets us to mars on savvy and hype instead of overpowering IQ what difference does it make?
>>108099921So this is what happens when STEMtards try to talk philosophy Apparently they are scientists and they don't even know what 'unfalsifiable' is
I've seen that movie before
>>108130624Don't project TeslaGurl. His stock = $000.00 five minutes after stepping on stage with me.
>>108113457actually, they haven;t. Elon musk is a bit like an autistic steve jobs - great motivator, clever, but not brilliant, and neither are his engineers necessarily. A lot of the work on space-X engines was done on (quietly negotiated) contract , their rocket design is really nothing to write home about, and the whole landing-vertical thing is a bit of a meme, though that's a longer story with a deep technical background and years of internal gov't-run-space-agency arguments.as for Tesla, literally the only thing unique about it is the battery pack using consumer electronic spec small cells. there are arguments against this being a good idea as well, and there is a good reason that the some 100,000+ engineers in the auto industry still aren't hopping on that particular bandwagon.also, the home batteries are fucking retarded. they're literally designed to take adavantage of electric company pricing policies. guess what happens when a bunch of people use them - companies change their policies, and then they're just useless.
>>108131270Muh powerwalls! Muh alimony! Muh hair plugs!
>>108120701top jej
>>108131273Thanks Sheisty Shekelwitz now where is the prospectus?
>>108131913I can not follow your autistic train of thought. You need to explain your thoughts better for other people to be able to interpret your thoughts. I understand that you are bad emphatically and that you rage against Musk because you yourself want to be King Autismo.But to have a semi rational discussion we will need to understand what you are writing.
>>108130156>Shingles - 5k to 10k>SolarCity - 10k to 15k>Chinese - 6k-12kEveryone went with generic chinese panels because they were more energy efficient, durable and cost effective. They only way it's less then roof tiles is if the tiles were premium ceramic or polymer (10k-16k)
>>108131856>literally the only thing unique about it is the battery pack using consumer electronic spec small cells.Not unique and I know the person he stole it from.I know the person he stole his motor design from.I know the person he stole the controller design from.I know it all and will ultrapwn that faggot so quickly that he will probably fake a medical emergency and flee the stage.Musk = garbage guru.
My dad said the same thing. He said Elon came to his dummy factory one day and they couldn't find him.
>>108132423Fuck off you deluded subnormally intelligent kike.
>>108097762I believe it. Dude is carney
>>108097762A business "leader" being full of shit? That hasn't been surprising since, what, 1091 BC? Musky's plan has always been a transparent operation to funnel taxpayer money into his own pockets - anyone who willfully invested in him, rather than just doing it through his state subsidies, is retarded.
>>108098106He came to our Gender Studies class and didn't even know what internalized oppression was
>>108130156If funny that they seem to need so much subsidy then.
>>108097762>>108098106you guys are utter morons. I know a lot of people who work at Tesla and talk to Elon daily. He is not a fraud, and by the off chance he is, he has some of the top minds designing, researching, developing, and manufacturing the Tesla. Every single person who owns a Telsa backs it 100% and they are now trying to make them more affordable - also the lifetime warranty really does make it a reason to believe it's the last car you'll ever own. I sell their marketing department a lot of camera equipment and have to do special classes with them to show them advanced techniques with our gear. I do the same with B&H photo as they are one of our Resellers - and the Tesla guys are by far some of the brightest Ops Ive dealt with in the industry.
>>108132820Clearly the person he stole from was unable to achieve anything. Gates also stole DOS and Zuckerberg also fucked over people.Its good that he stole it from a weak faggot unable to articulate himself.
>>108133627Tesla = scam.Musk = scammer.Tesla = loss.Musk = loser.
>>108133627Oh my! With that sterling anonymous pat on the back I will definitely purchase 10K shares of SKF! SAD!
>>108133718Whinge unhinged a bit more JEWdy.
tfw my father says no matter what we're going to see the first falcon heavy launch
>tfw will one day be able to buy a cheap as fuck self-driving car and just cruise, enjoying the scenery and listen to music.
>>108130156>how quickly development happensdevelopment doesn't happen quickly. Optimization happens quickly. Idea-Mixing is fast. fundamental R&D takes decades. the things that we as consumers enjoy today are almost universally 60-50 years old. in some cases, "cutting edge" technologies existed in laboratories as long as 90 years ago. the list includes --Cellular phones - concept is now over 70 years old, early prototypes were 40 years ago. -Solid State electronics - the physics were understood as far back as 100 years ago, and simple transistor-like assemblies existed by the 1930's-LED's - effect discovered 110 years ago, first real honest-to-god LED is 90 years old. -Photovoltaics - over 1110 years old, consumer grade is over 50 years old, efficiency of consumer grade PV's has not improved significantly since then. the 20 - 30% efficiencies being reported in labs are expected to take 15 - 20 years to reach market. -3D printing - deposition of adhesive coated spheres dates back to the 1960's, UV cured polymer Stereolitography was being done in labs a short while later, some 45 - 50 years ago. -Electric Cars - over 110 years old. early electric cars were actually significantly better than early gas cars. so basically, all of this shit we think of as being amazing has been in the academic sphere for almost a century in many cases. the thing that allows technology to advance, and the biggest Boon to progress in this century has been the awakening of the public to things long forgotten or considered un-economic. More to the point with your roof tiles - those tiles aren;t very efficient, they cost a fuckload compared to traditional roofing, and they have to be replaced and maintained before you break even with being "on the grid" this is true world-round. Never mind that they're still an intermittent energy solution at best, and they they consume tons of oil to produce, and that the Chinese control the poly silicon market
>>108133627>Every single person who owns a Telsa backs it 100%^^^ Good stuff right up there! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>108134872https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularityGet ready to hit mach speed anon, 'cause we're not gonna be slowing down.
Musk should start selling through AMWAY!
>be millionaire>decide to scam everyone for more munz>create successful rocket company unlike ever seen before>create successful electric car company unlike ever seen before>mfw these idiots dont kno i wuz jus pretenin
>>108135407How fat are you? Can't wait for the Bernie Madoff edition Tesla!
>>108098106Really? My dad said the same thing, he benches 600lbs and said Elon is a real dummy.
>>108135869Keep your day joblessness Yucky Yukelwitz.
>>108123111>He scams the government for billions of dollars to pay others to build overpriced cars and rockets that don't workftfy
>>108097762>He is pulling of one of the biggest scams of 21st century with his space programme and Tesla.people don't realise they're just memes to milk government subsidies, kek
>>108136537>>He scams the government for billions of dollars to pay others to build overpriced cars and rockets that don't workDelusional shitposting at it's finest. You should be Canadian.
>>108097762dude, do you realize that being smart as a scientist doesn't make you rich or some shit?you can be an ace in STEM and being poor as fuck, with global recognition, remembered by history but poor or without above average income.you can be dumb as fuck in everything else but good at business and you will be rich. It's a different kind of skillset.Even if Elon is not the brightest guy out there, he is rich so I guess your professor is just salty that he with a PhD and working in a prestigious university isn't as rich as him.Study and work in what you love, but if you want to be rich, you are no gonna get it having high scores or working your ass till night.
So I went to visit my old prof in Cambridge who i did a phd with, beacuse he was hosting his retiring party.Anyway long story short we get talking. He had a lot to say about ur mum. Apparently she's a whore, and you suck cocks.
>>108136913
>>108097762Oh cool. Your broke no name unsuccessful college professor thinks Elon is a fraud. Maybe he is and if reddit likes him he's probably a kite cuckold pos, but he's still done more and worth more and a million times cooler than some failure in academia who lives in a studio apartment with his cat.
>>108136719Hollywood conditions idiot Amerikans to ally themselves with the false notion of a plucky noble hero that falls a bit short because he tried too hard for too much. The media Jew sets 'em up and Elonboi knocks 'em down......*sniff at least we were part of something special...*sniff.
>>108137740>>108137388>>108136913>>108135869>>108135407Shill faggots spilling out of a yuk-yuk clown car.
>>108097762doesn't surprise me
>>108098106My Elon said the same thing. He said Dad came to dummy one day and he was a real Xbox360
>>108138344M E T AE T A
>>108135239nice memehave we evne had anything revolutionary in the past 30 years
>>108129895>Musk made paypal>who is Peter Thielmuh lucky merge, Musk is a crony
>>108138833Almost everything truly useful has been stolen from Hitler's Allemande because he instituted the princip of novel technology being driven by a demonstrable need.
>>108121405SA is rightful Dutch clay!
>>108138959Exactly. Modernity = false inference headlines.
>>108139399ZA faggot. I used to surf there and it was beautiful.
Musk will eventually run some scam involving a projekt in Israel and will end up never leaving there for protection from big bad meany jellus counterparties.
Ciao faggots.
