Why are you learning Japanese instead of Chinese? Chinese is superior in every way, and you have a higher chance of meeting a chink in your country than a jap.
To consume weebshit without having to rely on garbage translations. I couldn't care less about speaking the language with people in my country.
Well, I started learning Japanese in order to watch anime without subtitles, but my listening comprehension is so bad that I have to watch them with subtitles anyway, only this time they're Japanese subtitles. I guess if I learned Chinese then I'd be reading the Chinese subtitles. Still, I like that the voices phonetically match what's written in the subtitles, and there's the future prospect of relying on subtitles less by getting used to hearing the voice actors' Japanese speech. Therefore, I am happy with my choice to learn Japanese over Chinese. But truthfully, I wasn't considering Chinese anyway.
>>91046159Well let's see, because Chinese has 0 interesting media to me, and I have 0 interest in China.
>>91046159To be able to read Jap literature and watch old Jap movies. I hate anime and manga, though.Chinese is ugly and I'm not interested in China or whatever it offers.
>>91046159chinese has no interesting cultural content
Because my 2D waifu is jap
>>91046159the only thing you can do with chinese is speak to chinamen, which is a pretty awful prospect
Due to my native language structure, I feel Japanese is much easier language.Since I was a kindergarten student, I grew up receiving Japanese language education hosted by local public schools, because I live in the city nearest to Japan in my country (Ferry round-trip fare less than $50)
>>91046238>>91046252>>91046259>>91046289>>91046312>>91046322Most of the answers have basically been "to watch anime" and I'm not suprised whatsoever.
>>91046371I don't give a fuck about anime. I play video games.
>>91046371why don't you start by explaining why do you think chinese is superior in every way you fucking chink
>>91046384Sorry for the misunderstanding hombre
>>91046159>こんにちわdisgusting as fuck
>>91046371And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Fuck real people.
>>91046371Okay, the more I get into kanji the more I admire the natural environment of Chinese characters that the Chinese language is. When it comes to that sort of thing Chinese makes Japanese look like child's play. Chinese song lyrics can be very beautiful linguistically. I think it's also much easier to make friends with Chinese people than with Japanese people (Japanese guys are pretty lame and I don't have yellow fever tyvm). However, I don't generally like people, so it's not a priority for me to be friends with anyone. Chinese is still a difficult foreign language, even if you're comfortable with Japanese kanji and all, and it is not easily learned. There isn't much right now to keep my motivation up, were I to start learning it.
>>91046618It's clearly きんかは.
>learning dumbplified and not trad
>>91046715>Being part of PRC
>>91046715You can still learn Japanese and use 舊字體.
>>91046715>learning either and not just speaking English like you should
>>91046159>Can speak those two but still no guaranteed job whatsoever
>>91046828Dumb >>91046774Don't get me started "la">>91046773Dumb>>91046745Pathetic
>because animehow do grown watch something that is seemingly written for 12 year old girls? anime is the worst type of media available.
>>91046946>>91046953>stop liking things I don’t like!!!1!1!1!!1
>>91046917Come to the West, where you can be a NEET. Our women look like men, though...
>>91047028yeah that pretty much sums up my post. anime is the most retarded shit i've ever watched and you should feel embarrassed.
>>91046529Yes yes I understand
>>91046159No one wants to talk to roaches.
>>91046353Are you from Busan?
>>91046159>you have a higher chance of meeting a chink in your country than a japWhy would anyone ever want to talk to a chinkoid in their native language.
>>91047036I can only see how my body will be inflicted with pain in 1000 different ways for speaking 3 different ching chong languages
>>91046946I find that imagining myself to be a 12 year old girl (idealised) is the peak satisfaction I receive from life. Previously in my life I was lost and suffering, but with all those pretty girls ready-made for male self-insertion, I have at last found joy. Don't judge me, I've been through enough already.
>>91046238Wait for it, decade later China will produce more moe stuff than Japan.
>and you have a higher chance of meeting a chink in your country than a japNot in Brazil, Pedro Chang.
>>91047413Germany is tolerant (unless you speak up against Islam) and multicultural. I don't even know what are all those languages I hear every time I'm walking down the streets in my city. The world is moving here because it's better over here.
>>91046159Mandarin is an awful-sounding language.
>>91047464A decade later Japan will produce us android waifus.
chinese would be more marketable if we replaced pinyin with bopomofo so the weeaboos could think they were learning hiragana or smtht. chink
>>91048925As a weeb what I think you need is traditional characters, and their forms should follow the Kangxi dictionary, in which the eternal peak of printing aesthetics was achieved by Qing scholars. Going from Japanese to Chinese, supposed to be the damn original language, shouldn't feel like a downgrade. Even the Taiwanese character forms are weird.
>>91048839thisJapanese at least has a certain "europeaness" to it, phonologically speaking. But Chinese sounds completely alien and kinda disgusting. Also, the fact that the language is tonal makes it automatically unappealing to learn for gwailos. Finally, the fact that they switched to simplified characters kinda ruins what little appeal their logographic writing system could have possibly had.
>>91046159why not just learn both? brainlet
to talk with Japanese, you need to learn Japanese.to talk with Chinese, you speak English to them.
>>91049915and to talk with Malaysian, you speak Chinese to them
>>91049791I would but learning both at the same time is probably counter productive.
>>91046159I don't want to go to a shitty communist country like ChinaI want to learn a language that belongs to the first world and isn't European Japan is a better place to go as a white foreigner
ITT: weebs>not learning every asian language to integrate perfectly into a re-establishment of the greater east asia co prosperity sphere
>>91047239Yesmet many good kyusyu people here!
>>91046159>Chinese is superior in every waythisdon't waste your time to learn JapaneseChinese is more versatile
>>91046252>only this time they're Japanese subtitlesPlease teach me where to find anime (not dorama) with Japanese subtitlesPLEEEEEEEZ!
>>91046312Sad but true, bro
>>91046353Must be Busan-Fukuoka ferry line
>>91046159Chinese media is garbage and the country is a communist shithole.
>>91046715>used to be a part of British Empire>forgot the language of its Masters next day after re-joining ChinaNot even police is talking English in HK
>>91051833Nice English my brown Albanian friend.
>>91046159Chinese sound makes me Lough when I hear it.Sorry not offendBut it’s trueFor meChinese is not cool language
>>91051687I just use the subs from here:https://mega.nz/#!Mt100Q7B!HojFJHK4WVp0n9tcNlsStyHlOsXAd1Izoj-eippEuUcYou can also keep an eye on this place:https://kitsunekko.net/dirlist.php?dir=subtitles%2Fjapanese%2FMost of the people involved in producing Japanese subtitles for anime seem to be Chinese (so far to me). If true, the Chinese must be our the greatest weeb allies.
I met both chinks and japs and god, chinese is an atrocious language.
>>91050504I might eventually learn Mandarin before I turn thirty because after Japanese, Chinese seems to be only reasonably difficult instead of very difficult. I feel closer to Chinese grammar than to Japanese grammar even now. It's so ridiculously SVO and direct, it makes English sound complicated and meandering. I'll just hope China manages to make itself more culturally relevant than it is now before I grow old and die.
>>91046159Why do you always compare us with China?It is totally different as the language.You should study Spanish.
>>91053131>Chinese sound makes me Lough when I hear it.>Sorry not offend>But it’s true>For me>Chinese is not cool languageYour language is truly uncool!
>>91053698You have more in common with Chinese than any other language for the singular reason of using 漢字 to form common vocabulary, which is very large.
>>91053704NahJapanese sounds really manly.Chinese intonation is really chingchongchang and not cool
>>91053859>Nah>Japanese sounds really manly.>Chinese intonation is really chingchongchang and not coolyou motherfuckin bullshit!The Chinese language is profound and masculine than Japanese!Japanese is just a sissy language!
>>91053859In practice, aren't the Japanese the ones talking like söyboys always afraid to speak their mind, whereas the Chinese are always loud and clear? I have doubts about Japanese actually being a manly language, because of the way your society is.
>>91053760PRC(簡体) and Japan(国字) are different from Hong Kong /Taiwan(正体字) in the kanji.As for the grammar, the German bro of languages is close in China.
>>91054020Yeah but for example 経験 and 经验 are both the same shit. It's the same word. Other words where Japanese has 経, in simplified Chinese will also have 经. It's the same character, only that it looks somewhat different. Entire sentences in Mandarin are readable for Japanese people even in simplified script after minimal grammatical preparation. By the way, the traditional version of 経験/经验 is 經驗. It is different. But it's the same shit, really.Grammar takes a short time (other than getting fine nuance). Vocabulary takes a very long time. If your vocabulary is mostly shared because of 漢字, then you end up learning that language easily just because you already sort of know what you're learning. By the way, Chinese grammar is fucking primitive. It's just lining up 漢字 (漢字の並び方が文法、ということ). It makes English grammar look hard.
chinese are inferior than Japanese, definitely
>>91046159I don't care about anime and mildly interested in Japanese literature and movies. I started attending a Japanese course, though, to meet girls who are interested in Japanese and anime. So far it even pays off since I casually walk with a girl after the lessons and we talk quite personal stuff.No such prospect with the ちゅうごくご
>>91054632interesting.most of countries are living inferior than Japan but they always say "i don't care about anime or such a weeb things"
Chinese pronunciation is very difficult.
>>91053918Hey I told the truth whatever u mad or not.Look Chinese movies, every words coming from their mouth is Ching Chong nii Ching Chong Chang Ching .That’s why westerners bully u as Ching Chong.I don’t want to speak Ching Chong from my mouth.Look our glorious samurai movies.Cool macho language.SorryI just tell u the truth
>>91046159a weeb (or whatever you call him) friend of mine switched to chinese once we finished high school
im never learning either because I have no intention of ever moving from europe
>>91054766Do you have comprehension disability? What does what you said have anything with what I wrote?
>>91054887oh sorry, i didn't think reply to you
>>91054813>Look Chinese moviesAll movies from Chinese production have SUBTITLES.
>>91053082>Nice English, my brown Albanian friend.I fixed it for you.
>>91049247>Japanese at least has a certain "europeaness" to it, phonologically speaking.Japanese sounds more like the Austronesian languages than Indo-European, what the fuck are you on about?
>>91053918Why do you sound like an overseas chink?t. overseas chink
Die disgusting weebs
>>91055594PhoneticsIt is just as clear as with Italian and Spanish. It is spoken exactly in the same way it is written
>>91046159The benefits of learning Chinese to weebs is that it's far closer to English grammatically, and China's proximity to Japan makes watching anime far more convenient provided you can read Chinese subtitles.
>>91055680gook go home
>>91055745>It is spoken exactly in the same way it is writtenRead "中国" in Japanese, then read each character separately.
>>91053355it is pretty easyreading and writing are just fucking horrible and demotivate me t. studied it for three years
>>91046828>apprenant anglais au lieu du français comme on devrait
>>91055962>oui oui croissant
>>91047464Nobody cares about that chink shit.
>implying i didnt study both
>>91058940How fluent are you because of it?
My DPSS way overpowered laser which I use to knock flies out of the air and permablind cats on the streets was made in china...not nippon.Nippon wouldnt dare sell military grade lasers to civilian newfags like me.Mars bless China
>>91046527>>91046596>>91046618>>91046639>>91046659how did they manage to come up with a system worse than english?
>>91046159Because then I can't masturbate to my untranslated eroge.
>learn japanese>can read raws in peace, can into jap /lit/>can /trv/ in nipland when I eventually have both money and time off>learn chinese>not only have to look at and smell chinks, but now must understand their offensive babble, too>>91054232>経験 and 经验For what purpose? Fucking commies.
Chinese cartoons are actually better than japanese.
>>91063570Even if they are, Anime is a bigger market than Chinese cartoons
I have started learing japanese because it's in some way connected to all the things I like. >Watches >Anime>Knives >Technology Also, speaking japanese would look nice on my cv. Meanwhile it's kinda easier than chinese imo. So far it's been of a great advantage in my import/export business.
>>91063508I prefer the traditional version myself and fault both the PRC and postwar Japan.Honestly I don't know why the Asian countries have effectively all dropped the Kangxi forms (Korea technically did not but they essentially don't use Chinese characters anymore, which is even more stupid). There is nothing more beautiful. Japan has retained the most of all in use, but still... shinjitai and then "extended shinjitai", which -is- fixing a mess, but it's the wrong damn solution. Maybe I'm just too white to understand.
>>91046159Those h-games aren't going to translate themselves.
>>91067143Kanji are beautiful, but man. Imagine writing college notes in that shit. In english I can write "beautiful" in a fraction of a second. To write that shit in japanese takes about 10 seconds if writing reasonably fast. It's easier to read in kanji, but it's easier to write in a phonetic alphabet.
>>91067789美しい -> 11 strokesbeautiful -> 14 strokesIt's just practice my man.
>>91067789Speaking for myself, I'd only be able to write "beautiful" in a fraction of a second if I wasn't intending that word to be legible to anyone but myself. I'd need a full second to make it look decent...Well, computers appear to have saved kanji from further deterioration because anyone can now easily summon even the obscure and complex characters just by typing their sound out. The Japanese simplifications aren't too bad aesthetically, so even if extended shinjitai becomes the norm, I think I'll live with it.
>>91068692>write in cursive>it's 3 strokes and one dotWhere's your god now?
>>91069732>being over 18 years old>writing in cursive
>>91070917Cursive is patrician, and yes, that is what I meant.>fast>aesthetic>brainlets can't read it>>91068692>>91068737綺麗。Count those strokes.
>>91046159I'm not learning Japanese I refuse to because it's not the 70s anymore.Also, I'm trying to learn Chinese but I feel too old and I have almost no time. I still have books and audio though.
>>91071462Cursive is lazy, terrible and looks like shit.And why the fuck would you ever write 綺麗 using kanji
>>91046159Because I already learned both Chinese and Japanese.
>>91071792You are learning Japanese instead of Chinese because you already learned both Chinese and Japanese?
>>91046159Because Japanese is like a million times easier than mandarin and I can make better use of Japanese than mandarin when I read manga or watch anime without having to wait until translations or subtitles come out. But, I agree with you on that. Considering mandarin has the largest number of native speakers and the growing influence and power of china, it's a wiser choice to go with mandarin.
>>91071951mandarin grammar is easier. Simplified characters are a lot but, as far as i know, they do not randomly change the way you pronounce them if they are alone, at the start of words or at the end of words.
>>91071885Yeah. I'm focusing on Japanese more than Chinese because I watch anime
>>91046159>and you have a higher chance of meeting a chink in your country than a jap.no?
>>91072042True that mandarin has easier grammar since its an isolated language but memorising all the characters and getting used to pronouncing words accurately would be a bigger challenge for language learners since pronunciations and accents differentiate the meaning of words. But when speaking Japanese we don't have to care much about our accent or pronunciation like when we speak English with our distinctive accents.
>>91046159But I am learning Chinese
>>91046371why the fuck would you want to talk to fucking chinks of all races
>>91072408I completely agree with you on tones and the numbers of characters to learn but I still think Japanese comes close to Chinese.And japanese grammar is quite similar to Korean.
>>91046715>learning 10 more strokes to get autism and say you're superiorfuck off
>>91072508> Japanese grammar is similar to that of koreanThis is why it only takes Koreans around only 6 months on average to reach a level where they can practically and quite smoothly communicate in Japanese while it takes like years for europeans.
>>91055680>hangulliterally worse than even cantonese
>>91046159Why would I want to learn demon-speak?
>>91072763Both Cantonese and mandarin use the same writing system though..
>>91072966Except they're logographic and tonal and have almost no grammarSuperior
>>91072466>>91072839why are you all so racist
>>91073160They are inconvenient. I deal with dumb Chinese tourist and hackers is all.
Basic Chinese grammar
>>91046238damn, me too.
>>91074099"le" is the only particle whose use is confusing 2bhalso, there's very little grammar in chinese besides that stuff
>>91046371Some of my Chinese friends didn’t even bother going for Chinese exams in Secondary School