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>Egyptian civilization lasted 3000 years.
>We have 0.0001 of their documents
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inb4 revisionism memes
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Think of all the cultures and civilizations we have no written records of
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>>995241

Lost in time...like tears in rain...
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>>995234
>Africa

Perhaps if they had kept written records, we would be colonizing the galaxies...
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>You will never chill out in the library of Alexandria in 3rd century BC reading ancient knowledge
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>>995241
They are not worth of being mentioned in history
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>>995305
Not even the proto Indo-European speakers?
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>I will never be a historian in the House of Wisdom under the patronage of the Baghdadi elite
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You realize most of their documents wasn't some arcane knowledge but shit like "Jimmy bought a cart full of grain and exchanged it for two rocks"?
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>>995309
Civilization that did not stand the test of time are failures and do not deserve to be remembered
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>>995234
How did we get those numbers?
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>>995320
Well that's bullshit
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>>995316
>implying you are the one to tell everyone what the documents that even Plato and Pythagoras studied from contained
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>>995241
Will we ever truly know what life was like under the Hwan Empire?
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>>995316
Literally any insight as to how people lived in the past is valuable.
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>>995301
>be me
>be official US time traveler in the year 2472
>historians convince me to go back to the Library of Alexandria to gain valuable knowledge
>they give me a device that allows me to speak any language, and understand any language
>they prep me, tell me where to go, how to act politely and so on
>it's time
>I get in the pod
>after the smoke clears, I realize I'm outside the library
>ohshitnigga
>I go in, and try to act inconspicuously
>sweating like hell
>people walking past me smile
>i smile back
>mfw they're more jovial than american southerners
>i see the shelves filled with scrolls
>dick getting hard
>i go over to one of the shelves, mentally readying myself
>i'm sweating fucking bullets
>I pick up a scroll, slowly unfurling it
>this is it
>"Alcaeus exchanged 2 units of grain for 5 cattle"
>the fuck
>I pick up another scroll, and unroll it furiously
>it's a love letter by some dumb peasant who can't even spell
>what the fuck is going on
>where's all the insightful poetry and philosophy and shit
>I pick up another scroll, with tears starting to form in my eyes
>it's a fucking bird drawing
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>>995493

Got to read between those lines man. The ancients didn't just lay it all out there
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We have their pyramids and the few temples that haven't been destroyed
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>>995234

It's out there
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>>995320
The fuck?
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>>995320

Nothing can stand the test of time.

Conclusion: nothing deserves to be remembered for the sake of remembering, thus history is useless at best.
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>>995493
my sides
so damn accurate it actually hurts my sides in laughter
>"a fucking bird drawing"
fuckin top kek
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>>995320
t. lolbertarian social darwinist
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>>995545
This is why living for God is the only true life there is.
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>>995493
wasn't papyrus expensive back then?
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>>995514
>their pyramids
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>>995609
Yeah, hierographic inscriptions in the tombs are probably one of the only primary sources of Ancient Egypt
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>>995255

there are documents of several cultures that can't be interpeted beause entire populations were wiped out, and no one speaks those languages anymore.
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>>995320
Pppppsssshhhhh.... nothing personnel kid
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>>995234
Imagine where we'd be if we could get our hands on all those grain warehouse logs n shiet.
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>>995622
Have you heard of the things called papyrii?
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>>995579
It wasn't cheap, but it wasn't unattainably expensive like parchment.

I don't know about literacy rates in Egypt, but people in Mesopotamia wrote on anything that was flat for all kinds of reasons. I remember a ceramic fragment that had something like
>hey man, i was out of salt so i took some of yours, sry
scratched on it.
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>>996704
>I don't know about literacy rates in Egypt
Probably high compared to other Ancient societies but not a high as in Mesopotamia. There are Ostraka with small bills and stuff.
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>>995234
Come to think of it, don't we actually have a shit ton more source material on the high and late middle ages than say the Roman era.
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>>995241
I believe celts/gauls and Germans did this on purpose, they despised non-oral law and history.
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>>996726
sure. Valid theory bruh.
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>>996704
I think the Near Eastern cultures favored the wax tablet thing. Don't know if that applies to Egypt as well.
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>>996738
Okay, thanks.

Now could you point me to this legal code they wrote down? You know, one of the most basic things you would write down when you had a chance. Or perhaps something religious.
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>>996738
Caesar write about it, regarding the Gauls. They committed their beliefs to memory, believing that if written down, it would be forgotten for the convenience of being able to look it up later. Keeping it oral was a way of respecting their gods.

You can cry propaganda, but in that case it'd be far easier just to say they don't read because they're stupid and inferior.
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>>996751
What does the subject have to do with your theory?
>>996764
Thing is we find runes and pseudo-linguistic fragments (Pseudo-Buchstaben) in Scandinavia and Germany. Maybe Caesar was truthful and right but his statements don't apply to all Gauls/Germans.
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>>995316
Its funny because in the Philippines, the earliest written document from a 900's AD Indianized Tribal Kingdom ran along those lines.
>"This is to inform everyone that Chieftain Namawran has paid all his debts, and we are now returning his pawned property to him and he is now not a criminal anymore. Thnx"
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>>996771
This is true, we are talking about semi-nomadic tribes. People need to get this conception of all Gauls and Celts being the same out of their heads.
Caesar was referring largely to those living in present France.
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>>996771
I never said they couldn't write. Hell some even said the celtic druids could read and write latin. But as a principle matter celts and germans never wrote down stuff about their religion and law even though they had their own script. Throughout the world there are more people who do this, seeing the written word as being a dishonor towards their gods.
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>>996773
Literally the most important thing to write down. Not laws and religious crap. This stuff is known to people anyhow.
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>>995305
Knowledgeable people used to keep everything in their head to a relatively impressive extent, as monks in the medieval time period rememeber the entire bible and some other books word for word and copied them over or recited them. Don't underestimate oral traditions, they can have quite a deep history, it's just that because they didn't write their stories down or managed to pass them on further they were eventually forgotten.
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>>996788
Yeap, hence which is why its in copper while most pre-colonial Flip writing was in bamboo or whatever flat surface they could find.

It's a guys receipt/court clearance for his debts. He could flash it to anyone claiming that he still had debts
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>>995245

Now we will never know the Egyptian c-beam technology.
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>>996751
I can tell you vikings mostly ran around putting the runic version of ABC on everything because they couldn't read. Funnily enough, that also reads "pussy". So basically, mostly runic records written randomly across the world mean pussy, IIRC, including the idle tag in Hagia Sophia.
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>>996786
You said they didn't write on purpose a statement that is only backed up by Ceasars account.
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>>996830
...And the lack of written down religion and legal code.
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hopefully 3000 years from now someone will find my bird drawing
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>>996833
To add on that 90% of what we know about Norse mythology was written down by two 12th century men like four or five generations after the religion was wiped out.

Charlemagne toured Europe converting Germans at sword point and forced them to write down their legal code, it was then and only then that it was put to paper (or rather parchment).
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>>996833
Which was never contested by anyone. You brought this up for no apparent reason.
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>>996830
Again, why would he give a reason beyond "because they're a shit people" if there wasn't one? Especially considering he uses "they're a shit people" as his reason for why they can't fight him or obey treaties or whatever else annoys him about them on that particular day.
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>>996877
Short memory?

>>996738
>sure. Valid theory bruh.
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>>996843
If you post it here someone might.
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>>995301
Nawlege
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>>996885
>I believe celts/gauls and Germans did this on purpose
Untrue statement. It's simple.
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>future historians will have limited access to contemporary records because most of it is digital and in a few centuries no one will be able to read current file formats anymore

Will people think we are living in a dark age, like we think Late Antiquity was a dark age because so little documents from it survived?
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>>996901
So they didn't write down their religion or law for what reason?

I am legitimately curios now as to what other thing can explain why they wouldn't.
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>>996909
Please be more specific.
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>>995320
Fuck off.
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>>996903
Yeah, except we got other means of saving information. Not going to say it is not a problem but people are aware of it.
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>>996953
We have not found germans and celtic written legal code or religion.

Caesar says they did this out of principle

I stated they therefore refused to write any of it down on purpose

You say my statement is untrue without explanation

I ask what your explanation is for them not writing their legal code and religion down.
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>>996903

I doubt this is true. I would suggest that future generations will be able to cope with cracking old file formats.

Not only that but storage space is increasing massively year on year and anything worth keeping with be moved onto newer formats and stored anyway.
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>>995493
>I pick up another scroll, with tears starting to form in my eyes
>it's a fucking bird drawing

If our civilization falls beneath the sands and aliens or another species rises and finds a preserved hard drive, they are going to have a hard time explaining this.
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>>996773

Greece could use a man like Chieftain Namawran.
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>>996704
that's kind of endearing in a weird way
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>>995560
Glad to know my first greentext is good.
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>>995241
>>995245
And yet our dumbass memes will last until the last star dies thanks to redundant digital storage.
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>>995234
>>995301
>>995493
Is there anything specific that historians lament that was lost that they would be able to check out if the library wasn't destroyed?
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>>997920
There was likely a lot of texts regarding medicine and current science. Nothing groundbreaking for us, and most of it likely wrong but it'd be an interesting insight into the development of those things.

I would also imagine that it had a lot of the contemporary sources that people such as Polybius were working off of when they wrote their histories. Those would be cool to see.
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>>997522
>And yet our dumbass memes will last until the last star dies thanks to redundant digital storage.
Future archeologists will look at the shit we posted, scratch their heads, and will say, quite literally.

WHAT DID THEY MEAN BY THIS?
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>>998368
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY SMUG FROGS?
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>>998368
>Bane and CIA are interpreted as gods that primitives on the internet worshiped
>instead of neo-pagans the future has neo-baneposters who think it's the religion of their ancestors.
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>>998379
>a city is founded by the name of BillWilstontinople
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>>998379
"Wisdom, let us attend!"

"The Prayer is in the fifth tone!"

Somebody once told me that Bane was gonna troll me
I ain’t the biggest guy on the plane
I was lookin kinda dumb with my finger and my thumb
In the shape of a hook on my belt loops

"Well
The jeep starts coming and it don’t stop coming
Sold to the feds and I crash the plane gunning
Didn’t make sense not to talk about Bane
Pull the mask off and you’re in extreme pain
So much to shoot so much to throw
So whats wrong with taking the mask off?
You’ll never know if you don’t show
You’ll never fly if you don’t go"
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>>998379
>The dialogue of the TDKR becomes oral tradition and later on sacred text.
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>>998379
>>998404
>amen becomes for you
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>>995234
Tragic isn't it?
No use in crying over it though
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>>998404
>there are libraries filled with commentaries and studies of it. Such as Meaning of Big Guy.

>>998413
>someone sneezes
>"that was a big sneeze"
>"for you"
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>>996721

Well no shit.

Ab Urbe Condita Libri was a series of books which detailed the entire history of Rome from the foundation up until the beginning of the Empire period, we only have a handful of the books from the series.

The reason we know basically nothing about the Kingdom period of Rome is because those books were pretty much the only record of that era. We know a fair lot about the late Republic and Empire periods though so it's not so bad.

But the foundation of Rome and it's first few centuries will remain a mix of myth and fragmented truths forever.


I kind of wish the founders of Rome could have learned that their little settlement would inexplicably become the most important city in the world.
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We have very little of anything.

Anyone have that info-graphic about how much computer data has just vanished in to thin air?
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>>997920
information on what caused the collapse of the Bronze age for one, information on what kinds of civilizations lived in Europe at the time as well as stuff like who really invented the wheel and how? who invented writing and how? was Atlantis really just a meme? tons and tons of History and myths and origin stories that we just don't know

just being able to know when the real first civilizations began would be nice, but we really have no idea how old civilization really is
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>>998416
>Big Guy triggers a violent schism between "You're a big guy = for you" and "It would be extremely painful = for you."
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But we know exactly who/how/what/when everything was built :^)
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>>997920
I'd say Ptolemy's memoirs of his campaigns under Alexander are a big loss.
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>>996821
Or know how they got them to glitter at 10,000 K.
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>>995320
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>>995234
it's all written in our dna - if you're black
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>>995493
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>>997168
DELET THIS REEEEEEEE
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>>995234
Wow, only 0.0001? Not even a whole document, or at least half of a document. Just one ten thousandth of a document. Like a single glyph, not even a whole word. I had no idea we had so little.

Use a percentage sign next time.
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>>995234
If it makes you feel better, there are literally tens of thousands of administrative, court, legal, extralegal, and other records on tablets recovered at Persepolis that have yet to be translated which were found only 80 years ago and less than 1% of them have been translated so far.
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>>995234

The Egyptian Civilization was neither Egyptian nor Civilized
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>>1000380
>being this much of a pedant
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>>996751
well, there's the scanian law of codex runicus, and the icelandic gragas law...oh, and all of british common law is codified germanic law, so...

you're just a fucking idiot.
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>>995493
kek
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>>1000619
You're actually backing him up since all of those post date Christianization.
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>>995316
nice try Teal'c
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>>997920
greek fire

was it a system, or a substance? or both?
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>>995320
Agree.
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>>1000590
It's a valid point.
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>>1000585
The modern Egyptian civilization is neither modern, nor Egyptian, nor civilized.
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>massive cache of ancient documents found
>they're all variations of some shitty ancient meme
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>>996804
Muslims have been doing the same thing, many of the Muslims I know know the Quran word by word and can even refer which verse is on what page and in what chapter.
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>>995493

so fucking accurate. I'm specialized in reading documents produced in german speaking areas in the 16th-18th centuries. Doesnt really matter in which archive I go, these are mostly the kind of things i find
>Johannes called Ursula a whore because she wouldnt sleep with him. He spouted a 15 pages song at her while drunk, explaining what a huge whore she is. Condemned to a fine.
>Fritz has to pay a fine because he sold bread that had been made with less flour than usual
>the value in gold silver or money of bells, plates, musical intruments, you name it, anything people own, fuckloads of those
>10pages of a town council meeting about a religious uproar, nothing happens during the meeting because one guy was missing, who wrote a 5 pages excuse on how he fell ill after eating ginger root. You pretty much learn nothing about the uproar.

I can name many more like that.
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>>995305
everything is though
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>>995320
what a stupid view
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>>997920
Also I guess for edge-lords, the production of Damascus steel has be largely lost, although we can pretty much imitate it today
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>>1001498
>mfw 15th century village court rolls
>Peasants suing each other
>Slander
>Libel
>Slander
>libel
>Slander

etc etc. Especially Millers got the full brunt it seems.
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This thread has reminded me of the single most boring book I have ever read

I went from In the Shadow of the Sword to this
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>>1001498
Post more
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>>995255
W


E
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>>995320
You sound like a faggot
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>>995575
Here's your ( ALLAHU AKBAR )
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>>995320
YES I AM STRONK MAN GRRR
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>>995493
>i see the shelves filled with scrolls
>dick getting hard
this is /his/
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>>995320
>nothing deserve to be remembered
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>>1001562
>edge-lords

hearty kek
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>>1001302
It's also insignificant. That's what pedantry is.
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>>995234
>the Greeks, founders of western civilization, culture, science and maths had loads of anal sex
>my gf won't do anal
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>>995493
this is good
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>>995301
Why live?
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>>997025

>one day your external hard drive filled with hentai might make it's way into the hands of a museum archivist
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>>1003055
>works of such artists such as Rustle and Shindol are shown on exhibition
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>>995234
>We will never read about how they wuz kangz
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>>995493
>>it's a fucking bird drawing
Birds
Are
Very
Important
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>>995301
Who destroyed it again? The Romans?
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>>996764
Attitudes probably varied, as you see similar sentiments from the Greeks even at a time when the Greeks were writing.
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>>997920
I'm not a historian, but I lament the loss of Diogenes' and Hypatia's writings.
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>>995493
A
FUCKING
BIRD
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>>995493
Perhaps it's a well painted copy of the imperial symbol
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>>1001868
>not getting hard at the sight of ancient scrolls

Get out normie
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>>1003297
arabs

Augustus went to the library I think, he also visited Alexander's tomb and saw his corpse (bones really)
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>>1004563
It had already been burned repeatedly centuries before the Islamic invasion
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so many people in this thread have never heard of
The ancient Egyptian tradition of burning the library
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>>1003221
They've been relevant for a long time.
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>>997186
Underrated post
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>>1001576
not even talking about villages here. Actual biggest HRE cites like Dresden and Augsburg.
>>1001604
>during municipal, regional or imperial nobility gatherings, small and big princes used to fight about the right to wear more of these
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiocchi
>the count of the Palatinate declares at one point to be so much of a king to each living thing on his territory that he declares the fishes of every river to be also his subjects
>School teacher accused by drunk catholics to convert the children to another failth, teacher left the place, cahtolics beat up his maid who knows nothing.
>german catholics overall
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Daily reminder because of copyright law, much of the media of the late 20th and 21st century will disappear and never be experienced by future generations as it makes archival essentially impossible.

We've already lost countless video games to copywright law.

What if in the future they want to talk about Vanilla WoW and it's impact on pop culture and the internet in the mid 00s? They will never be allowed to actually emulate or publicly show that game. No one is legally allowed to touch WoW until 2145.

Also because most media these days is stored digitally, with DRM out the ass, it will be near impossible to keep around for future generations.
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Bump
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>>1005065
>Video games
Past 2004 who cares?
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>>995320
wew lad
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>>995320
(you)
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>>995320
wew
WEW
E
W
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>>1005065
I hate copyright past 20~ years.
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>>995493
This brought me many keks, but this thread seems to be missing the point. If you took a random cross-section of today's internet it would be filled with the boring, the mundane, the frivolous, and the stupid. All those things are useful in at least a small way for shining a light on the past. But it only takes one page of cool stream-engine prototypes or some dank proto-calculus mathematics to change history.
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>>1005043
>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiocchi
I cant read defeatist runes, plox translate.
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>You will never see tenochtitlan
>The spainish ruined a fucking mega city out of a fantasy novel built on a lake with amazing urban planning and hydroculture that rivaled anything in eurasia and had a population comparable to Constantinople that was built without any metal tools for fucking shitastic modern day mexico city
>And the lakes dried up so Axolotls are extinct

Literally worse then the burning of the library of Alexandria.
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>>1005494
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>>1005494
i don't buy it
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>>1005586
why
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>>1005494
Aztecs had metal tools
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>>1005603
I know they had some bronze tools and weapons but my understanding was they weren't used widely.
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>>1004536
i think he was saying more like
>"this is the heart and soul of this board"
>"this is what being a true historian is all afucking bout"
why you gotta be so defensive senpai? don't forget that your perceptions create your reality. mzbye head on over to /sci/ or you know get some help.
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>>995234
>all those gook cultures the mongols literaly wiped out
Has there been a more worthless existence than mongols?
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>>1005494
>And the lakes dried up so Axolotls are extinct
Dude what? My friend has a pet Axolotl, they're not extinct.
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>Egyptian civilization lasted 3000 years.
>Literally contributed nothing to western civilization other than a few impressive piles of rocks.
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>>997025
>I doubt this is true. I would suggest that future generations will be able to cope with cracking old file formats.
No, it's undoubtedly true. We have a hard time getting information out of shit discovered from the 80s. Not to mention bit rot, which destroys a lot of information over time. There's also the fact that loads of information is stored on remote servers, once you stop paying the upkeep those servers are used for something else and your information is lost forever.

Digital storage is very perishable, if you want to specifically produce something that'll last a long time, carve it into stone or etch it into metal.
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>>995320
W
WEW
EWE
WEW
W
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>>1007957
>he actually believes this
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>>995234
Remember this next time some fedora edgelord says there's no evidence of Moses in Egypt.
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>>998469
Kek unerrated post
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recommend me a book on ancient egypt pls
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>>1005596
seems kinda exagerated
must've been cool there, but not that cool
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>>1000000
test
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>>1005065
>>>/v/
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>>1005065
We only lost games that required online services.
Movies don't work like that, music doesn't work like that.

They still release new versions of movies from 1960 each year. Same with music. Don't worry so much
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>tfw hero of alexandria's steam engine was considered a toy novelty

Silly Greeks could have pushed humanity so much further forward.
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>>995320

>you will never be this wilfully ignorant

Feel godman
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>>999097
Think of all the Ancient memes lost to time.
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>>997920

A lot of Homer's poems I imagine. That'd make a lot of historians cum.
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>>998379

>it becomes against the law to wear a mask
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>>1007906
Sorry, should have specified: In the wild. Last survey to get numbers on how they were doing found zero.
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>>1009245
Fucking Numidium making shit disappear.
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I had to take an afrocentricity class in college and towards the end of the semester the professor started talking about how ancient egyptians had a "mystery school" where they learned magical powers, but they didn't record anything on paper because they were afraid others would abuse its power.

Unfortunately the other classes in muh required diversity units were even worse.
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>>996773
Another -- unrelated -- fun-fact: the earliest mention of the word "Albanian" was a crime report mentioning the alleged criminal speaking the language:

The first written mention of the Albanian language was on 14 July 1285 in Dubrovnik (modern-day Croatia), when a certain Matthew, witness of a crime, stated "I heard a voice shouting on the mountainside in the Albanian tongue" (Latin: Audivi unam vocem, clamantem in monte in lingua albanesca).
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>>1010259
I would formally ask for that professor to be removed.
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>>1010517
No chance, he's black and he even wore african dresses with dreadlocks.

The class was a huge joke, he wrote his own "book" (it was actually a collection of photocopied material that wss stapled together) but we almost never read or referenced it. Every lecture was just him rambling about some nonsense that was unrelated to the course, which actually kept it interesting. Comphy A for an upper division course but still a waste of time.
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>>1010565
>No chance, he's black and he even wore african dresses with dreadlocks.
>this puts him above scrutiny
Truly a dystopian society.
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>>995320
It must be painful to live while suffering from autism
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>>995320
Fuck yes. Does /his/ agree?
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>>1001478
Its a tradition. The idea is that the human heart was specially created to be able to contain the quran. The book is just a vassal, the true form of the quran is spoken and held in the heart. We dont refer to the physical book as the quran, we call them Mushaf, which means "bound between two covers".
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>>1001498
have you ever thought to yourself that maybe you are just a shit translator, and that's why they give you the garbage to translate?

Or, more realistically, most of the valuable and important texts have already been translated and heavily studied, while the relatively uninteresting piles of court records and birth records have not? don't be a moron.
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>>1005354
this
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>>995493
top lel
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>>998379
>every year in christmas evening theres a voluntary sacrifice, a plane full of people [/spoiler] crash with no survivors[spoiler]
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>>1005603
look how happy is that smug cunt sitting over there doing nothing just laying with an axe in front of him
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>>997920
Pretty much every historical record and piece of fiction in existence at that point in time with an origin in the med or near east.
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>>995234
That's because Egypt was the last stage of human civilization which recognized and developed the shared, collective knowledge of the species, and after the development of cuneiform and hieroglyphs, they began arguing over what was said and how it would be viewed by others, which led to the disintegration of what we would call telepathic powers.

Or, maybe the estimate of how many "documents" Egyptian culture had is literally impossible to calculate without actually having all the documents, and just sheer guesswork based on faulty assumptions of the consistency and quantity of Egyptian publishing practices.

I could pretty much go for either, or a combination of both.

>inb4 George Tsukalos
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>>1005494
Yeah, well they committed a shit ton of human sacrificing, too. So it's not like Aztec society is an innocent victim.
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>>1011261
Well, yes, I wasn't really talking about if they were innocent or not, I was just saying they built a lot of cool shit.

That said though; The scale and barabirty of the sacrifices are exaggerated. For one, on a per capita basis, london had twice as many public executions annually then aztecs had human sacrifices, and were just as gruesome.

>b-but those were criminals!
Most of which committed petty crimes or were probably innocent. Also, the vast majority of aztec human sacrifice victims were war prisoners, and it was considered highly honorable and the victims were well treated if not outright revered both prior to the sacrifice and in regards to the remains.
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>>995316
Kek this is true, mostly. But their mathematical papyri indicate a knowledge of math that wasn't used in checking their work. They really didn't need to desu due to its simplicity in application... but that's not to say they used simple math. In fact some problems show evidence of their knowledge of the quadratic formula
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>>995622
Google Oxyrhynchus Papyri, although to be fair that's hardly Ancient Egypt
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>>1011341
Is that Coptic?
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I bought a book with CD images of the Lahun Papyri, will dump. There are a lot though, would you rather see
Literary
Mathematical
Legal
or Religious?

Can provide translations too, but I'll have to cross reference with the provided book
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>>1011368
Says Greek here http://www.papyri.info/ddbdp/p.oxy;3;533

But his penmanship was kind of crappy
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>>1011387
Oh I see. Didn't even look at the link and assumed it was Egyptian. I think Coptic is the closest thing to Greek in the hieroglyphic lineage
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AYO HOL UP
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>>995301
Theophrastus' Golden Book

*tips fedora*
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>>1011375
What dynasty are those from?
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>>1011451
They're much later, most of the texts are Hieratic. Not sure if they all come from a single dynasty
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>>1011464
>Hieratic
Not an expert at all. 1st millenium BC?
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>>995234
>Polybius’ Histories were originally written in 40 volumes
>only the first five of which are extant in their entirety.

>The Res Gestae (Rerum gestarum Libri XXXI) was originally composed of thirty-one books
>but the first thirteen have been lost

>Together the Histories and the Annals amounted to 30 books.
>and about half of them have survived

>Timaeus; The Histories, probably some 40 books
>Very few parts of the elaborate work of this historian were preserved after Antiquity

Nice thread OP. I literally get angry every time I read a book and see the author point out "in X's books Y, only 8 of the original 20 survive".

It hurts so badly that you'll NEVER, EVER know what happened in those years.

So many triumphs and losses, all gone, never for me to read.
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>>998368
>>998379
as much fun as it is to speculate, we've look got sites explaining memes. so they'll be very aware they're meaningless jokes.
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>>1011490
Looking through the book there aren't any dates at all. Strange. They may range a good bit in themselves maybe. If I find something hinting to an era I'll post.

But here's a cool resource for learning Egyptian math via the papyri:

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/museums-static/digitalegypt//lahun/mathintro.html

Site also says that Lahun's history can be traced back to the Middle Kingdom (2025 - 1700 BC)
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>>1011567
>>1011490
And my mistake, the texts would mostly be in hieroglyphic then, though looking at the papyri, they start having traces of heavy shorthanding in the symbols
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>>1011301
So it's a choice between being put to death after a period of torture, starvation and unsanitary conditions by my own culture, or being put to death after a period of pleasure and reverence by another culture that kidnapped me from my village? Life sucks
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>>1011787
Well, you weren't exactly kidnapped: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_war

It's also worth noting that the focus on human sacrifice only really became a huge thing after a particular high priest came to power, burned all the previous religious texts, and rewrote the religion to have a much larger focus on it and the gods it was associated with.

Obviously it was still a hing before then as most mesoamerican cultures have religious siignfcance to blood and that dates way back, but it only became as big a deal as it was due to that happening.
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>>996903


>He doesn't know about the rapefugee crisis.

Dude we are like ROME now and the barbarians/germans are those rapefugees with their Islam.

We will be getting the islamic dark ages- i.a earthquakes are caused by the wrath of Allah and etc.

And they will last for much longer then the christian dark ages.
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>>995320
WELL CONGRATULATIONS, YOU GOT YOURSELF REPLIES.

NOW WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP IN YOUR MASTER PLAN?
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>>1009164
oh shit

does /his/ not have an archive?

jesus fuck someone get on that shit
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>>1012130
https://desustorage.org/his/
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>>1012130
nevermind
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>>1012142
This is a good way to bypass internet filters
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>Egyptian civilization

Are you talking about Biblical Egypt?
Are you talking about Hellenic Egypt?
Are you talking about Roman Egypt?
Are you talking about Islamic Egypt?
Are you talking about Ottoman Egypt?
Are you talking about British Egypt?
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>>1001498
I really enjoy these inane stories from centuries ago.
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>>995301
>Get time machine
>get a large usb
>install an enterprise scanner
>Go the the library and scan everything
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>>1007957
7 out of the 10 commandments are from the book of the deads, Egyptians practiced mathematics and built the oldest statues too, they did a lot.
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>>1012450
>Biblical

No, he's talking about the real ancient Egyp, aka from 3000 bc to the persian conquest.
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>>1012450
he is talking about "pyramids and shit" egypt
also you skipped Mamluke Egypt
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>>1004563
oh the boogeyman
>>1003297
the library was probably burned down during julius ceasars civil war in like 50 bc
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>>995320
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>>995320
>Civilization that did not stand the test of time are failures and do not deserve to be remembered
Well I hope your pathetic little Western civilization gets pounded to the ground by Islam and be completely forgotten.
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>>995493
I was here last night and wished I had capped this, luckily it's still here today
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>>995320
The Earth will be swallowed by the sun in about 5 billion years.

Should we just stop caring about everything and sit here twiddling our thumbs until we go extinct?
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>>1015120
Why does that guy actively shave his chin and jawline but leave the rest? Is this Muslim tradition?
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>>1015260
It's like it's their very purpose to look ridiculous. Wahabbism is the ultimate beta neckbeard religion in all of its aspects.
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>>995241
that'd be the greatest tactic of warfare though.
>beat a civilization into the dust
>literally burn / destroy everything, thus removing them from history
not only is your civilization gone, so is your legacy
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>>1003127
Imagine an As109 loli gangrape doujin being spoken of in the same reverence as a Bernini statue.
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>>1009720
Bruh, they went extinct because the Aztec descendants pollute the water so badly that the surviving Newts couldn't breathe underwater

Don't blame Don Pedro de la Mancha y Castile for that
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>>1016318
The whole series of lakes getting drained as part of the expansion of new spain aka mexico city was also a huge factor, which is what I was referencing.
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>>996764

The gaelic had a very active druid circle that would call on many of them to have council every year. They were very well respected, and their decisions would decide wars etc. The run of mill knowledge would have been most certainly oral. Testaments and charters may have been for a different purpose.
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>>995493
Someone please draw wojak crying holding a scroll with a pepe bird on it
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>>995241
To be fair shit only started getting real 20 thousand years when we finished off neanderthals and started in on eachother
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>>997920
I would want to read any other copies of the Trojan cycle.
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>>998379
>>instead of neo-pagans the future has neo-baneposters who think it's the religion of their ancestors.

>Implying they wouldn't be correct
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>>1012450
>Are you talking about Biblical Egypt?
Why would he be talking about fictional places when discussing actual history?
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>>1016726
This.
This was how I first learned about the library of Alexandria, never been so angry in my life.

Also,I'd like to point out that even though we don't have all of the epic of Gilgamesh, its pretty cool that we have enough to figure a full story out of it. Hell, I think I heard that we discovered more of it recently.
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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/04/160419-Islamic-State-ISIS-ISIL-Nineveh-gates-Iraq-Mosul-destroyed/#close
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>>1011915
Crashing this civilization...

With no rememberance!
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>>998378
AND YET THEY'RE CALLED RARE
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>>1018111
Just a 70's reconstruction, bruh. We'll rebuild it again some day.
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>>1010441
The first romanian written record is a letter which was basically a guy saying "yo, turks coming, get the fuck out"
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>>1000000
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>>1005494
fuck you, early colonial mexico was a GOAT City aswell, just depends if you prefer cathedrals over pyramids
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Hoping the Herculaneum scrolls have something.
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>>996804
Of course. Knowledge is power, but if it becomes well known knowledge then it loses some of that influence. The guy that knew how to make fire and what herbs made he best medicine wouldnt be the tribe sorceror/witchdoctor/etc if everyone knew his secrets
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>>1001595
>boring
But it's astonishing...with eerie relevance.
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>>995234
>0.0001 of their documents
how would you even know that number?
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>guys let's burn down the alexandria library
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>>995241
that's most of africa
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>>995493
Who are you quoting? That's not in that post.
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>>1001498
>He spouted a 15 pages song at her while drunk, explaining what a huge whore she is
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>>1005494
my nigga
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>>1025305
pretty much. This bait is pretty effective though.
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>>1011522
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FUCK EVERYTHING
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>>1012655
DUBS FOR GOOD IDEA
>tfw timetravel to the past is impossible and will never happen
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>>1022943
>tfw magic is no longer magic
>tfw I'd be a wizard if I timetraveled back 1000 years, but am nothing now
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>>995234
Wasnt much destroyed of what was left of the great library when muslims spread for the first time?
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>>1025515
It was destroyed by different factions over the time, why you are pointing at Muslims specifically?
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>>995301
Who even cares? There's nothing we could actually learn from them nowadays, it would just be a novelty to read some more of the lost Greek tragedies or whatever. Nothing actually useful
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>>1015731
Damnatio memoriae doesn't always work considering the guy who's actions that coined the term in the first place is still known



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