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This is a very good book if you are ignorant about Islam and desire to learn more or clear up misconception. I will quote a few passages

>Unfortunately, the way the Western media presents it, you would think that in Islam chopping off a hand or a nose or a toe was the norm in for punishing people. In fact, there are only a few crimes that incur physical punishment and even then Islamic Law allows the judge forgo those if mitigating circumstances allow. (The only physical punishments are cutting off the hand for repeated theft, flogging for certain crimes like fornication, and capital punishment for murder, treachery, and the like.)

>If we have been cast into Hell temporarily but have finished our sentence, the angels will locate and remove us, though we will be mere charred skeletons by then. A substance called the Water of Life will be poured over us, and our bodies will regenerate and be restored good as new.

>The Prophet Muhammad once told a story to illustrate the mercy of Allah. A harlot was walking down a road when she saw a deep well. As she climbed down its walls to get a drink, she noticed a thirsty dog pacing back and forth above. She felt pity for it and removed her leather sock, filled it with water, and brought it up for the dog to drink. On account of this act of kindness, God forgave all her sins.

>"That will be the Day of ultimate recompense," the Qur'an declares, and Islam is very firm in promoting a full justice that is everyone's right. Even plants and animals whom we have wronged for unjust or cruel reasons will be able to make their claim.

More to follow
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>The Shari'ah (Islamic Law) states that a fetus has rights. No one has the right to kill a baby in the womb, especially when it has no defense. Abortion is quite forbids. Islam considers it to be taking away the right of Allah to allow--or not allow--a pregnancy to come to full term. Despite popular ideas today about personal choice and freedom to birth or abort, Islam does not change with the times and stands squarely against Roe v. Wade.

>Animals and plants are also considered to be Muslim in that they follow their innate instincts, which are sort of like their programming.

>Islam allows prospective mates to meet only in chaperoned circumstances. Never are two unmarried people to be alone together on account of the dangers of temptation.
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Did Muhammad really fuck a 9 year old girl?
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Name one Muslim majority country that isn’t a shit hole. Yup....thought so.

I mean, it’s not like their religion is used for domination and political agenda.....oh wait, there’s a clear Muslim aggression through history. Just research the crusades and Byzantine empire. Decades of Muslim aggression necessitated pushing back. Y’all really need to read a book other than the Quran and learn your history.

Btw, there’s no such thing as Palestine.
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>>6244053
No, most likely not. He might well have married her at that age, but Islam teaches against sex before puberty. And the Prophet had other wives, marrying her just means he took her into his household, not that he consummated the marriage immediately.
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>>6244084
Of course they are economically worse. However I don't consider them worse for not being ruled by feminism, finance, individualism, drugs, homosexuality and pornography, as many in the west do.
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>>6243923
>In fact, there are only a few crimes that incur physical punishment and even then Islamic Law allows the judge forgo those if mitigating circumstances allow.
So cutting hands is standard. Also no source on "Islamic Law." Dropped.

>If we have been cast into Hell temporarily (...) our bodies will regenerate and be restored good as new.
No source.

>The Prophet Muhammad once told a story to illustrate the mercy of Allah.
No source.

>Islam is very firm in promoting a full justice that is everyone's right.
No source.

>>6243930
>The Shari'ah (Islamic Law) states that a fetus has rights.
Not specific to Islam.

>Animals and plants are also considered to be Muslim in that they follow their innate instincts, which are sort of like their programming.
Praising Muhammad is not an instinct. Only Muslims think otherwise.

>Islam allows prospective mates to meet only in chaperoned circumstances. Never are two unmarried people to be alone together on account of the dangers of temptation.
Actually, the Muslim sources (Sahih Muslim 3424-3428) state the woman must breastfeed the man 10 times so he considers her like his mom so they don't fuck.

>>6244053
Yes, and she was playing with dolls at the time, which is forbidden to girls with their period in Islam.
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why mohammad fuck 9 year old aisha
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>>6244084
>Name one Muslim majority country that isn’t a shit hole
Sweden
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>>6244053
There are many hadith and other bits of Islamic fluff that say he did, so it depends what you mean by "really". In the Sunni Muslim tradition the canonical answer would be yes but I dunno if the hadith pass muster for any proper historical inquiry.
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>>6243923
>Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment.
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>>6244612
based and Islampilled
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>>6244084
UAE
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>>6244084
Based and redpilled post
I don't know why cucks pretend that islam is a normal religion so hard.
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>>6244707
t. seething wh*Teboi
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>>6244106
>married at 9
but the book you are referring to states that the marriage was a 6

>hey follow their innate instincts, which are sort of like their programming.
I guess that's why muslims are a bunch of inbreeding violent rapists. And still think them selves as the pinnacle of morality.
Simply following their instincts.
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>>6244719
False, see here >>6244698
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>>6243923
>>The Prophet Muhammad once told a story to illustrate the mercy of Allah. A harlot was walking down a road when she saw a deep well. As she climbed down its walls to get a drink, she noticed a thirsty dog pacing back and forth above. She felt pity for it and removed her leather sock, filled it with water, and brought it up for the dog to drink. On account of this act of kindness, God forgave all her sins.
Wow this a PERFECT encapsulation of how a psychopath would see mercy. Just a totally random and grandiose gesture of largess, completely devoid from any moral context.
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>>6244751
Wtf i hate Islam now
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>>6244728
then why do muslim allow marrige of 6 year olds on the basis that "mohamed did it so it's good enough for me"
also is it moral to chop of a persons hands and feet just to dump them in the desert because they let some camels wander of?
And how would you make this rime with muh religion of peace and mercy. When this is but one of the many acts of brutality and savagery committed by your prophet (piss literally be upon him because those camels where used for piss medicine and where his) and best of men.

It's almost like those savages in ISIS are copying him. The mass executions, corporal punishment, war, terrorism, slave girls being taken as wives, killing the non-believer and breaking every deal they ever made.
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>>6244787
Look I'm not an islam apologist, i dislike all Abrahamic faiths, but you can't criticise the values of a religion by citing the behaviour of a sample of its supposed adherents.
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>>6244053
>>6244106
>>6244184
>>6244719
>>6244787

Muhallad married Aisha when she was six and he had sex with her when she was nine.

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/63/120

https://sunnah.com/search/%3Fq%3Daisha%2Bsix%2Byears

>"Narrated Aisha: The prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Harith Kharzraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's messenger came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age."

>"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""

http://www.muhammadanism.org/Hadith/Topics/Marriage.htm

https://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/childbrides.htm
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>>6243923
>The Prophet Muhammad once told a story to illustrate the mercy of Allah. A harlot was walking down a road when she saw a deep well. As she climbed down its walls to get a drink, she noticed a thirsty dog pacing back and forth above. She felt pity for it and removed her leather sock, filled it with water, and brought it up for the dog to drink. On account of this act of kindness, God forgave all her sins.

In your religion, ISIS terrorist rapists will have their sins forgiven after spending only temprary time in hell and will go to paradise while the Yezidi women they raped will go to hell forever because the only unforgiveable sin is being an infidel. All other sins are forgiven eventually including rape, mass murder and those aren't even considered sins when directed against infidels during war.
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>>6244834
>This is disputed by many Muslim scholars; firstly because the Hadith was first transcribed over 200 years after Muhammad's death, making it an unreliable source, and because under Islamic law a woman cannot marry until she has reached sexual maturity. [13] If the age of Aisha is calculated based on the more detailed information known about her sister conclude that she could not have been less than ten years old at the time of her marriage and could not have been less than 15 years old at the time of consummation. [14]
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>>6244868
Isn’t that the same in many Christian denominations? At least Lutheranism is basically obsessed in telling you how faith is the only thing that can save you, and every deed will be forgiven if you just believe in God?
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>>6244821
But can you judge the faith by it's founders?
If you compere jesus and the apostals with mohammed and his generals you get completely different people living completely different lives.
considering that these are the exemplars for the faithful. the behavior of the faithful will also differ.
That is why ISIS is very relevant. They are following the example of mohamed the warlord.
We might prefer they did not, we may prefer that the example does not exist.
But it does. Islam has the exemplar template of a bloodthirsty warlord.
It is not inferring the evil of the muslims onto islam. It is seeing that the evil of muslims is due to islam.

>>6244883
among protestant denominations perhaps. But the Church rejects salvation only on faith and excepts salvation trough deed even without faith in rare cases.
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>>6244911
Jesus is a prophet in Islam also and mary was 14 at the time of Jesus's birth according to some just like aisha was 15 when she lost her virginity according to some
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>>6244871
they regularly marry off 9 and 10 year olds in Islamic states and fuck underage boys as well.
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>>6244821
yes you can
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>>6243930
But abortion is permotted of the fetus os younger 4 weeks.
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>>6243923
Nice try OP but you can't have a normal thread on here it's /pol/ with dates afterall.
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>>6244933
>islam also took jesus in like a bunch of thieves
>ergo islam and Christianity is the sameish
oh lord
>according to some
yes but what is the doctrine held by the majority and how do the faithful act on this
muslims around the world use aisha to excuse child marriages up to as young as 6 years old
Christians see Mary as the mother of God, a saint. She is never represented as a young girl or a teenager but always as a mature woman. Christians do not cite Mary as a reason to marry 8 year olds.
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>>6244987
The age of consent in most muslim countries is higher than most european countries though.
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>>6244997
nice try at apologia but we are talking marriage.
and in europe the sexuality of a women is considered her own. In most muslim countries it is still the families and honor murders even when formally illegal are tolerated.
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>>6245011
>cuckadoodledoo
This is why degeneracy is destroying the West.
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>>6244053
I'm not sure what the actual problem with this is.
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>>6243923
I'm going to kick your "prophet" in the ribs.
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>>6244933
I thought Mary was 11?
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>>6244911
>But the Church rejects salvation only on faith and excepts salvation trough deed even without faith in rare cases.
Would that be 'The Church' with rampant pedophilia or some other chuch?
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>>6244871
>This is disputed by many Muslim scholars; firstly because the Hadith was first transcribed over 200 years after Muhammad's death,
Well then the current praying practices can be bought into question since they first prayed toward the east, the Sun, then in the expansion to Egypt, then to Jerusalem and once they were stalled by the Byzantines it turned back to Mecca.

It is Umar and Uthman who under the orders of Abu Bakr burned all the other copies of the Quran except for the one he compiled after the death of most of the companions who could recite the quran or whatever the surahs were,n at the Battle of Yamama, to consolidate his power and authority to avoid a third fitna he restructured and made up the Quran as it is known now.

This is not lies, this is the truth.
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>>6245021
Which slav animation is this?
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>>6244871
>of course these hadith are false, look, this hadith proves it so
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>>6244933
>mary was 14
[citation needed]
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>>6245086
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm
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It's a mistake for westerns to analize Islam from a western point of view, I mean, for us religion is a system of personal beliefs and norms that dictates or moral values, this view of religion comes from centuries of Renaissance, Enlightment and Humanism. Islam, for muslims, it's a complete way of life, it's a total submission to God who dictates every conduct in life, for muslims religion is not an idea or philosophy, it's THE reality.
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I don't get all these Islamic apologetics. If you truly believe in an objective morality the source of which is an all powerful god, why would you contort yourself into all these weird positions to justify Mohammed's behaviour and Allah's punishments to people who follow modern western secular morality? Why not just say "yeah having sex with children is moral and so is slavery god says so, fuck you I'm gonna murder some apostates"?

By trying to come up with a contorted view of Islam that is more compatible with western secularism they are implicitly saying that there is another source of morality superior to the standard interpretations of Islam that stood for centuries.
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>>6245127
>The West increased the age of consent recently so lets bomb the fuck out of some Muslims.
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>>6245180
How has that got anything to do with what I posted?
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>>6245180
Not him but why do you straw man? It's your kind or if you are a liberal, your favorite pet jihadists who have been invading non Muslim countries and persecuting Middle Eastern Christians. Turkey invaded Cyprus and raped Greek girls. Coptic Christians are harassed, murdered, kidnapped and spat on by your kind or your pet jihadists. Khutba sermons during Friday prayers at Mosques openly call for jihad to take over the world and conquer non Muslims and curse non Muslims every day. Hizb ut-Tahrir and the Muslim Brotherhood call for a caliphate to conquer the world. The President of Turkey regularly threatens Christian countries with war and reminders of past conquests.
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>>6244181
The author is a Sunni imam and scholar

>>6244612
Yes. But this does not mean anyone who isn't a Muslim. The Quran says do no violence to people of the book.

>>6244719
Some accounts say six, others nine

>>6244871
Thanks for posting this

>>6244868
You miss the point. The point is that Allah (SWT) looks for any "excuse" to get people into heaven, not that he is random about whom he let's in.
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>>6245127
Islam does support the death penalty for apostates.

Adulthood is puberty in Islam and always has been. Having sex with someone under this age has never been accepted

Owning slaves is certainly not forbidden in Islam but enslaving free people is considered the highest level of sin, in par with murder. Also freeing slaves is considered the highest level of charity and it causes sins to be forgiven.
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>>6244962
Not in mainstream Islam.
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>>6245776
How slaves were treated.

https://islamicvirtues.com/2013/12/25/killing-non-muslims-and-slaves/

https://islamicvirtues.com/2013/12/21/god-condemns-the-slaves-who-run-away-from-their-masters/

https://islamicvirtues.com/2013/12/12/superiority-of-the-race-of-arabs-over-non-arabs/

https://islamicvirtues.com/2013/12/13/non-arab-men-are-not-suitable-for-marriage/

https://islamicvirtues.com/2013/12/02/benefits-of-drinking-the-blessed-urine-of-our-holy-prophet-s/

https://scholarspen.blogspot.com/2005/05/prophets-urine_10.html

>This article is written in defense of al-Seyyid Muhammad al-Yaqubi’s subsequent statement which he expressed during His talk on the national Mawlid gathering in London, ‘I wish I was His urine which passed out of Him; pure and a cure’
>‘I wish I was His urine which passed out of Him; pure and a cure’

https://islamicvirtues.com/2014/02/01/scientific-miracle-islam-meat-spoilage/

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/76/9

Narrated Anas:

The climate of Medina did not suit some people, so the Prophet (ﷺ) ordered them to follow his shepherd, i.e. his camels, and drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they followed the shepherd that is the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. When the news reached the Prophet (ﷺ) he sent some people in their pursuit. When they were brought, he cut their hands and feet and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron.
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>>6245856
The Arab Muslims in the caliphates had a massive fetish for white european blonde women and prophet Muhammad told the Arab Muslims he would give them blonde byzantine sex slaves.

http://humanevents.com/2015/07/30/why-muslim-rapists-prefer-blondes-a-history/

>The Byzantines as a people were considered as fine examples of physical beauty, and youthful slaves and slave-girls of Byzantine origin were highly valued…. The Arab’s appreciation of the Byzantine female has a long history indeed. For the Islamic period, the earliest literary evidence we have is a hadith (saying of the Prophet). Muhammad is said to have addressed a newly converted [to Islam] Arab: “Would you like the girls of Banu al-Asfar?” Not only were Byzantine slave girls sought after for caliphal and other palaces (where some became mothers of future caliphs), but they also became the epitome of physical beauty, home economy, and refined accomplishments. The typical Byzantine maiden who captures the imagination of litterateurs and poets, had blond hair, blue or green eyes, a pure and healthy visage, lovely breasts, a delicate waist, and a body that is like camphor or a flood of dazzling light.

https://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/blonde_fetish.html

>(Of them is he who saith: Grant me leave (to stay at home) and tempt me not…) [9:49]. This was revealed about Jadd ibn Qays the hypocrite. This is because when the Messenger of Allah was preparing for the Battle of Tabuk, he said to him: “O Abu Wahb, would you not like to have SCORES OF BYZANTINE WOMEN AND MEN AS CONCUBINES AND SERVANTS?”
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>>6245856
Hadith wisdom.

Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:

The Prophet (ﷺ), was asked about water (in desert country) and what is frequented by animals and wild beasts. He replied: When there is enough water to fill two pitchers, it bears no impurity.
https://sunnah.com/abudawud/1/63

Anas b. Malik reported that some people belonging (to the tribe) of 'Uraina came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) at Medina, but they found its climate uncogenial. So Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said to them:
If you so like, you may go to the camels of Sadaqa and drink their milk and urine. They did so and were all right.
https://sunnah.com/muslim/28/12

'Ibn Mas'ud narrated:
"The Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) stood among us and said: 'One thing does not infect another.' So a Bedouin said: 'O Messenger of Allah! If a camel gets mangy glands and we leave it at the resting place of camels, then all of the camels get mange?' The Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) said: 'Who caused the first to get manage? There is no 'Adwa nor safar. Allah created every soul, so he wrote its life, its provision, and its afflictions.'"
https://sunnah.com/urn/674460

Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri:

The people asked the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): Can we perform ablution out of the well of Buda'ah, which is a well into which menstrual clothes, dead dogs and stinking things were thrown? He replied: Water is pure and is not defiled by anything.

https://sunnah.com/abudawud/1/66
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>>6245860
http://alifta.net/Fatawa/FatawaSubjects.aspx?languagename=en&View=Page&HajjEntryID=0&HajjEntryName=&RamadanEntryID=0&RamadanEntryName=&NodeID=68&PageID=11433&SectionID=7&SubjectPageTitlesID=11894&MarkIndex=1&0

Fatwas of the Permanent Committee
Browse by subject > Acts of worship > Taharah (ritual purification) > Performing Taharah with water > Remaining water left by animals > Q 3: Is it permissible to perform Wudu' (ablution) with drinking water left over by animals, such as cows, buffalos, goats, sheep, and donkeys, even if this water is placed in a container?
The third question of Fatwa no. 21264
Q 3: Is it permissible to perform Wudu' (ablution) with drinking water left over by animals, such as cows, buffalos, goats, sheep, and donkeys, even if this water is placed in a container?
A: The drinking water left over by any of the animals that are lawful to eat is Tahir (ritually pure), because the Prophet (peace be upon him) ordered a person sick with fever to drink the urine and milk of camels.
May Allah grant us success. May peace and blessings be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family, and Companions.
The Permanent Committee for Scholarly Research and Ifta'
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>>6245856
>>6245860
>>6245863
Medical benefits of female circumcision - Islam Question & Answer

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/45528

>Circumcision is prescribed for both males and females. The correct view is that circumcision is obligatory for males and that it is one

Circumcision of girls and some doctors' criticism thereof - Islam Question & Answer

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/60314

>This hadeeth includes circumcision of both males and females. 2-. Muslim ( 349) narrated that 'Aa'ishah (may Allaah be pleased with

Circumcision: how it is done and the rulings on it - Islam Question & Answer

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/9412

>It is mustahabb to circumcise females provided

Is there any saheeh hadeeth about the circumcision of females? - Islam Question & Answer

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/82859/is-there-any-saheeh-hadeeth-about-the-circumcision-of-females

He is twenty years old… and he has not been circumcised - Islam Question & Answer

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/46849

>Circumcision is one of the Sunnahs of the Fitrah, for both males and females, but it is obligatory for males and a Sunnah and an honour for women.

Ruling on female circumcision - Islam Question & Answer

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/1188
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>>6245776
>>6245856

Slave women

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_malakat_aymanukum


https://islamqa.info/en/answers/20085/intercourse-with-female-prisoners-of-war

>In the answer to question no. 10382 we have stated that Islam permits a man to have intercourse with his slave woman whether he has one or more wives or he is not married.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/20802/intercourse-with-a-slave-woman-is-not-regarded-as-zina-adultery

>Allaah has permitted intimacy with a slave woman if the man owns her. This is not regarded as adultery as suggested in the question. Allaah says, describing the believers (interpretation of the meaning):

>“those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts)

>Except from their wives or (the slaves) that their right hands possess,__ for then, they are free from blame”

>[al-Mu’minoon 23:5]

>What is meant by “those whom their right hands possess” is slave women or concubines. See also question no. 10382, 12562.

>Once this is understood, it should be noted that what is suggested in the question, that this was zina, never occurred to the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them). What they were asking about was the ruling on practicing ‘azl with the slave women whom they had acquired in the course of jihad.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/13737/what-is-the-ruling-on-intimacy-with-slave-women

>Allaah is Most Wise in the laws that He decrees for His slaves, but this wisdom is only apparent to those who seek it and believe that Allaah is All Wise, and looks at the interests that are served by the laws of Allaah which no man can see unless he ponders the matter, especially when there are those who attack those laws because they go against what they think are right and wise.

>With regard to your question about it being permissible for a master to be intimate with his slave woman, the answer is that that is because Allaah has permitted it. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
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>>6245867
>That is subject to the condition that he has acquired her in a proper manner, and that this slave woman has not been given by her master in marriage to another man to whom she is still married. The reason why this is permitted is that this slave woman belongs to him, either because he has paid money to buy her or he has fought for the sake of Allaah (and acquired her among the war booty).

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/21380/ruling-on-a-muslim-man-marrying-a-non-muslim-woman-and-vice-versa
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>>6245871
https://sunnah.com/muslim/16/147

>Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Mes- senger (ﷺ), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160106101656/http://islamqa.info/en/10382

>Islam allows a man to have intercourse with his slave woman, whether he has a wife or wives or he is not married.

>A slave woman with whom a man has intercourse is known as a sariyyah (concubine) from the word sirr, which means marriage.

>Our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) also did that, as did the Sahaabah, the righteous and the scholars. The scholars are unanimously agreed on that and it is not permissible for anyone to regard it as haraam or to forbid it. Whoever regards that as haraam is a sinner who is going against the consensus of the scholars.

>The Book of Allaah indicates that the sexual relationships that are permitted are only of two types, either marriage or those (women slaves) whom one’s right hand possesses.

>The wife has no right to object to her husband owning female slaves or to his having intercourse with them.

https://islamqa.info/ar/answers/10382/%D8%AD%D9%83%D9%85-%D8%AC%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%B9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%A1-%D9%85%D8%B9-%D9%88%D8%AC%D9%88%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B2%D9%88%D8%AC%D8%A9
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>>6245875
https://sunnah.com/abudawud/12/126

(715)Chapter: Regarding 'Azl (Withdrawing Before Ejaculation)(49) باب مَا جَاءَ فِي الْعَزْلِ
Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri:

A man said: Messenger of Allah, I have a slave-girl and I withdraw the penis from her (while having intercourse), and I dislike that she becomes pregnant. I intend (by intercourse) what the men intend by it.

The Jews say that withdrawing the penis (azl) is burying the living girls on a small scale. He (the Prophet) said: The Jews told a lie. If Allah intends to create it, you cannot turn it away.

حَدَّثَنَا مُوسَى بْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبَانُ، حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى، أَنَّ مُحَمَّدَ بْنَ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ ثَوْبَانَ، حَدَّثَهُ أَنَّ رِفَاعَةَ حَدَّثَهُ عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ، أَنَّ رَجُلاً، قَالَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ إِنَّ لِي جَارِيَةً وَأَنَا أَعْزِلُ عَنْهَا وَأَنَا أَكْرَهُ أَنْ تَحْمِلَ وَأَنَا أُرِيدُ مَا يُرِيدُ الرِّجَالُ وَإِنَّ الْيَهُودَ تُحَدِّثُ أَنَّ الْعَزْلَ مَوْءُودَةُ الصُّغْرَى . قَالَ " كَذَبَتْ يَهُودُ لَوْ أَرَادَ اللَّهُ أَنْ يَخْلُقَهُ مَا اسْتَطَعْتَ أَنْ تَصْرِفَهُ " .
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>>6245877
https://sunnah.com/abudawud/12/128

(715)Chapter: Regarding 'Azl (Withdrawing Before Ejaculation)(49) باب مَا جَاءَ فِي الْعَزْلِ
Jabir said “A man from the Ansar came to the Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) and said “I have a slave girl and I have intercourse with her. But I dislike her to conceive. He replied “Withdraw your penis from her if you wish for what is decreed for her will come to her.” After a time the man came to him and said “The girl has become pregnant”. He said “I told you that what was decreed for her would come to her.”

حَدَّثَنَا عُثْمَانُ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا الْفَضْلُ بْنُ دُكَيْنٍ، حَدَّثَنَا زُهَيْرٌ، عَنْ أَبِي الزُّبَيْرِ، عَنْ جَابِرٍ، قَالَ جَاءَ رَجُلٌ مِنَ الأَنْصَارِ إِلَى رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ إِنَّ لِي جَارِيَةً أَطُوفُ عَلَيْهَا وَأَنَا أَكْرَهُ أَنْ تَحْمِلَ . فَقَالَ " اعْزِلْ عَنْهَا إِنْ شِئْتَ فَإِنَّهُ سَيَأْتِيهَا مَا قُدِّرَ لَهَا " . قَالَ فَلَبِثَ الرَّجُلُ ثُمَّ أَتَاهُ فَقَالَ إِنَّ الْجَارِيَةَ قَدْ حَمَلَتْ . قَالَ " قَدْ أَخْبَرْتُكَ أَنَّهُ سَيَأْتِيهَا مَا قُدِّرَ لَهَا " .
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>>6245859

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_ibn_Ziyad

The 16th-century historian Ahmed Mohammed al-Maqqari, in his The Breath of Perfume, places the following speech into Ṭāriq's mouth to his troops before Guadalete:

> Remember that if you suffer a few moments in patience, you will afterward enjoy supreme delight. Do not imagine that your fate can be separated from mine, and rest assured that if you fall, I shall perish with you, or avenge you. You have heard that in this country there are a large number of ravishingly beautiful Greek maidens, their graceful forms are draped in sumptuous gowns on which gleam pearls, coral, and purest gold, and they live in the palaces of royal kings. The Commander of True Believers, Alwalid, son of Abdalmelik, has chosen you for this attack from among all his Arab warriors; and he promises that you shall become his comrades and shall hold the rank of kings in this country. Such is his confidence in your intrepidity. The one fruit which he desires to obtain from your bravery is that the word of God shall be exalted in this country, and that the true religion shall be established here. The spoils will belong to yourselves.
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>>6245881
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/121

Narrated `Aisha and Ibn `Abbas:

On his death-bed Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) put a sheet over his-face and when he felt hot, he would remove it from his face. When in that state (of putting and removing the sheet) he said, "May Allah's Curse be on the Jews and the Christians for they build places of worship at the graves of their prophets." (By that) he intended to warn (the Muslim) from what they (i.e. Jews and Christians) had done.

حَدَّثَنِي بِشْرُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ، أَخْبَرَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ، أَخْبَرَنِي مَعْمَرٌ، وَيُونُسُ، عَنِ الزُّهْرِيِّ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِي عُبَيْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، أَنَّ عَائِشَةَ، وَابْنَ، عَبَّاسٍ رضى الله عنهم قَالاَ لَمَّا نَزَلَ بِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم طَفِقَ يَطْرَحُ خَمِيصَةً عَلَى وَجْهِهِ، فَإِذَا اغْتَمَّ كَشَفَهَا عَنْ وَجْهِهِ، فَقَالَ وَهْوَ كَذَلِكَ " لَعْنَةُ اللَّهِ عَلَى الْيَهُودِ وَالنَّصَارَى، اتَّخَذُوا قُبُورَ أَنْبِيَائِهِمْ مَسَاجِدَ ". يُحَذِّرُ مَا صَنَعُوا.
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>>6245888
https://sunnah.com/nasai/21/231

It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Messenger of Allah said:
"May Allah curse the Jews and Christians who took the graves of their prophets as Masjids." (Sahih) Chpater 107. It Is Disliked to Walk Between Grave Wearing Sibtiyah Sandals
أَخْبَرَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحِيمِ أَبُو يَحْيَى، صَاعِقَةُ قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو سَلَمَةَ الْخُزَاعِيُّ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا اللَّيْثُ بْنُ سَعْدٍ، عَنْ يَزِيدَ بْنِ الْهَادِ، عَنِ ابْنِ شِهَابٍ، عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ الْمُسَيَّبِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " لَعَنَ اللَّهُ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى اتَّخَذُوا قُبُورَ أَنْبِيَائِهِمْ مَسَاجِدَ " .
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>>6245891
https://sunnah.com/muslim/5/27

'A'isha and Abdullah reported:

As the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was about to breathe his last, he drew his sheet upon his face and when he felt uneasy, he uncovered his face and said in that very state: Let there be curse upon the Jews and the Christians that they have taken the graves of their apostles as places of worship. He in fact warned (his men) against what they (the Jews and the Christians) did.
وَحَدَّثَنِي هَارُونُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ الأَيْلِيُّ، وَحَرْمَلَةُ بْنُ يَحْيَى، قَالَ حَرْمَلَةُ أَخْبَرَنَا وَقَالَ، هَارُونُ حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ وَهْبٍ، أَخْبَرَنِي يُونُسُ، عَنِ ابْنِ شِهَابٍ، أَخْبَرَنِي عُبَيْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، أَنَّ عَائِشَةَ، وَعَبْدَ اللَّهِ بْنَ عَبَّاسٍ، قَالاَ لَمَّا نَزَلَتْ بِرَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم طَفِقَ يَطْرَحُ خَمِيصَةً لَهُ عَلَى وَجْهِهِ فَإِذَا اغْتَمَّ كَشَفَهَا عَنْ وَجْهِهِ فَقَالَ وَهُوَ كَذَلِكَ " لَعْنَةُ اللَّهِ عَلَى الْيَهُودِ وَالنَّصَارَى اتَّخَذُوا قُبُورَ أَنْبِيَائِهِمْ مَسَاجِدَ " . يُحَذِّرُ مِثْلَ مَا صَنَعُوا .
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>>6245895

https://sunnah.com/muslim/5/26

Abu Huraira reported:

The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Let there be curse of Allah upon the Jews and the Christians for they have taken the graves of their apostles as places of worship.
وَحَدَّثَنِي قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا الْفَزَارِيُّ، عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ الأَصَمِّ، حَدَّثَنَا يَزِيدُ بْنُ الأَصَمِّ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " لَعَنَ اللَّهُ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى اتَّخَذُوا قُبُورَ أَنْبِيَائِهِمْ مَسَاجِدَ " .
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>>6245867
>>6245871
>>6245875

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallgr%C3%ADmur_P%C3%A9tursson

>During his last year of study there, Hallgrímur was employed to re-educate a group of Icelanders who had been kidnapped by Barbary pirates in the Turkish Abductions in 1627 and ransomed. Among them was a woman, Guðríður Símonardóttir, sixteen years Hallgrímur's senior, with whom he fell in love. Guðríður was married to a man from the Westman Islands, who had not been captured in the raid. After Guðríður became pregnant by Hallgrímur, he left the seminary and returned with the group to Iceland. On their arrival it emerged that Guðríður's husband had died, leaving her a widow; she and Hallgrímur promptly married and he worked as a labourer for a number of years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%C3%B0r%C3%AD%C3%B0ur_S%C3%ADmonard%C3%B3ttir

>Guðríður Símonardóttir (1598 – December 18, 1682) was an Icelandic woman who was one of 242 people abducted from the Westman Islands, Iceland in 1627 in a raid by Barbary pirates.[1] These raids came to be known as the Turkish abductions and Guðríður became known as Tyrkja-Gudda. After being held as a slave and concubine for nearly a decade, she was one of a few captives ransomed by the Danish king. She returned to Iceland, marrying the young pastor Hallgrímur Pétursson, who became known for his poetry and hymns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Abductions

>The most notable captive was Guðríður Símonardóttir. She was sold as a concubine in Ottoman Algeria and was among the few Icelandic who were redeemed nearly a decade later by King Christian IV of Denmark. She returned to Iceland and is known for having later married Hallgrímur Pétursson, who became a Lutheran minister and one of Iceland's most famous poets.
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>>6245901

72 virgins are mentioned right in Hadith which claims there would be 72 virgins for martyrs who died in battle.
https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/22/46
>Narrated Al-Miqdam bin Ma'diykarib:
>That the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "There are six things with Allah for the martyr. He is forgiven with the first flow of blood (he suffers), he is shown his place in Paradise, he is protected from punishment in the grave, secured from the greatest terror, the crown of dignity is placed upon his head - and its gems are better than the world and what is in it - he is married to seventy two wives along Al-Huril-'Ayn of Paradise, and he may intercede for seventy of his close relatives."
>[Abu 'Eisa said:] This Hadith is Hasan Sahih.

Virgins are mentioned in the Quran.
https://quran.com/56/35-45
https://quran.com/55/56-66
https://quran.com/37/48
https://quran.com/78/33

Tabari's history and Hadith accounts of Sahaba show some of them mentioning that they were going to get the virgins in paradise in they died in battle. I believe it was the Battle of Siffin.
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>>6245865
Muslim women are forbidden to travel without a Mahram.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/122630
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/101520
https://archive.islamonline.net/?p=1378
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>>6245901

The hadith that mentions the 72 virgins being given to Muslim men are strong hadith, not weak hadith. The virgins are mentioned in the Qur'an.

72 virgins are mentioned right in Hadith which claims there would be 72 virgins for martyrs who died in battle.
https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/22/46
>Narrated Al-Miqdam bin Ma'diykarib:
>That the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "There are six things with Allah for the martyr. He is forgiven with the first flow of blood (he suffers), he is shown his place in Paradise, he is protected from punishment in the grave, secured from the greatest terror, the crown of dignity is placed upon his head - and its gems are better than the world and what is in it - he is married to seventy two wives along Al-Huril-'Ayn of Paradise, and he may intercede for seventy of his close relatives."
>[Abu 'Eisa said:] This Hadith is Hasan Sahih.

Virgins are mentioned in the Quran.
https://quran.com/56/35-45
https://quran.com/55/56-66
https://quran.com/37/48
https://quran.com/78/33

Tabari's history and Hadith accounts of Sahaba show some of them mentioning that they were going to get the virgins in paradise in they died in battle. I believe it was the Battle of Siffin.

The weak hadith says the 70 females will be taken from infidel women from hell and sent to sexually service Muslim men along with 2 houris. Otherwise the hadith which says 72 virgins exist but don't say they are from infidel women from hell are strong
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>>6245901
>>6245913

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/72_Virgins#Relevant_Quotations

Lo! We have created them a (new) creation, And made them virgins, Lovers, friends, For those on the right hand;
Quran 56:35-38
Abu Umama narrated: "The Messenger of God said, 'Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.' "
Sunan Ibn Majah, Zuhd (Book of Abstinence) 39
It was mentioned by Daraj Ibn Abi Hatim, that Abu al-Haytham 'Adullah Ibn Wahb narrated from Abu Sa'id al-Khudhri, who heard the Prophet Muhammad PBUH saying, 'The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and seventy-two houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a.
Al-Tirmidhi, Vol. 4, Ch. 21, No. 2687
Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [i.e. Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas.
Al-Itqan fi Ulum al-Qur'an, p. 351
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>>6245915
Anas said, Allah be well-pleased with him: The Messenger of Allah said, upon him blessings and peace: “The servant in Paradise shall be married with seventy wives.” Someone said, “Messenger of Allah, can he bear it?” He said: “He will be given strength for a hundred.” From Zayd ibn Arqam, Allah be well-pleased with him, when an incredulous Jew or Christian asked the Prophet, upon him blessings and peace, “Are you claiming that a man will eat and drink in Paradise??” He replied: “Yes, by the One in Whose hand is my soul, and each of them will be given the strength of a hundred men in his eating, drinking, coitus, and pleasure.”
Sifat al-Janna, al-`Uqayli in the Du`afa’, and Musnad of Abu Bakr al-Bazzar
This [Qur'an 78:33] means round breasts. They meant by this that the breasts of these girls will be fully rounded and not sagging, because they will be virgins, equal in age.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Abridged, Volume 10 Surat At-Tagabun to the end of the Qur'an, 333-334
“According to Prophet Muhammad (SW), the Hurs of Paradise will be pure women, free of menstruation, urine, stool, cough and children. The Hurs will sing in Paradise on divine purity and praise—we are most beautiful Hurs and we are for the honored husbands. Muhammad said that an inmate of Paradise will have the sexual strength of 70 men. Muhammad said, “An inmate of Paradise will have 500 Hurs, 4,000 unmarried women and 8,000 widowed women. Each of them will keep embracing him for the duration of his whole worldly life.”
al-Ghazzali, Ihya Uloom Ed-Din, vol.4 p.4.
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>>6243923
Muhammad's character looked evil and greedy to Medieval Christian thinkers. Saint John of Damascus was born less than 100 years after the death of Muhammad commented on Muhammad's hypocrisy in stealing Zaynab from Zeid (Zayd). He was a Syrian Christian who viewed Islam as evil and lived in the Arab Umayyad caliphate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Damascus
http://orthodoxinfo.com/general/stjohn_islam.aspx
>As has been related, this Mohammed wrote many ridiculous books, to each one of which he set a title. For example, there is the book On Woman, [109] in which he plainly makes legal provision for taking four wives and, if it be possible, a thousand concubines—as many as one can maintain, besides the four wives. He also made it legal to put away whichever wife one might wish, and, should one so wish, to take to oneself another in the same way. Mohammed had a friend named Zeid. This man had a beautiful wife with whom Mohammed fell in love. Once, when they were sitting together, Mohammed said: ‘Oh, by the way, God has commanded me to take your wife.’ The other answered: ‘You are an apostle. Do as God has told you and take my wife.’ Rather—to tell the story over from the beginning—he said to him: ‘God has given me the command that you put away your wife.’ And he put her away. Then several days later: ‘Now,’ he said, ‘God has commanded me to take her.’ Then, after he had taken her and committed adultery with her, he made this law: ‘Let him who will put away his wife. And if, after having put her away, he should return to her, let another marry her. For it is not lawful to take her unless she have been married by another. Furthermore, if a brother puts away his wife, let his brother marry her, should he so wish.’ [110] In the same book he gives such precepts as this: ‘Work the land which God hath given thee and beautify it. And do this, and do it in such a manner” [111]—not to repeat all the obscene things that he did.
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>>6245919
>And again, in the book of The Heifer, [114] he says some other stupid and ridiculous things, which, because of their great number, I think must be passed over. He made it a law that they be circumcised and the women, too, and he ordered them not to keep the Sabbath and not to be baptized.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaynab_bint_Jahsh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zayd_ibn_Harithah

Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Palaiologos in a debate with a Muslim:
>Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.
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>>6245921
Muhammad revealed this verse in the Qur'an saying that Allah orders his followers to stop annoying him because he is too shy to tell them to stop.
http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=33&verse=53
>Muhammad Sarwar: Believers, do not enter the houses of the Prophet for a meal without permission. if you are invited, you may enter, but be punctual (so that you will not be waiting while the meal is being prepared). When you have finished eating, leave his home. Do not sit around chatting among yourselves. This will annoy the Prophet but he will feel embarrassed to tell you. God does not feel embarrassed to tell you the truth. When you want to ask something from the wives of the Prophet, ask them from behind the curtain. This would be more proper for you and for them. You are not supposed to trouble the Prophet or to ever marry his wives after his death, for this would be a grave offense in the sight of God.
>Mohsin Khan: O you who believe! Enter not the Prophet's houses, except when leave is given to you for a meal, (and then) not (so early as) to wait for its preparation. But when you are invited, enter, and when you have taken your meal, disperse, without sitting for a talk. Verily, such (behaviour) annoys the Prophet, and he is shy of (asking) you (to go), but Allah is not shy of (telling you) the truth. And when you ask (his wives) for anything you want, ask them from behind a screen, that is purer for your hearts and for their hearts. And it is not (right) for you that you should annoy Allah's Messenger, nor that you should ever marry his wives after him (his death). Verily! With Allah that shall be an enormity.
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>>6245867
>>6245871
>>6245875

http://www.pragyata.com/mag/sex-slavery-in-islamic-india-376

>Women and children were special targets for enslavement throughout the medieval period, that is, during Muslim invasions and Muslim rule. Captive children of both sexes grew up as Muslims and served the sultans, nobles and men of means in various captives. Enslavement of young women was also due to many reasons; their being sex objects was the primary consideration and hence concentration on their captivity.

>Psychology regarding Sex

>Islam originated in the Arabian peninsula which is by and large stony and sandy. There is no luxuriant herbage, there are no lofty trees or winding rivers. Muhammad used to say that “three things gladden the eye of the gazer: green fields, running water, and fair faces.” [1] Since green fields and running water were denied to the medieval Arab, he concentrated on deriving comfort and society mainly in fair faces. This phenomenon became prominent in the course of Islamic history throughout the world.

>In the campaigns launched by Muslims, it was easy to capture women, more so after their menfolk had been massacred. The Prophet’s one great aim was propagation of his religion and as Margoliouth observes, “Abu Bakr (the chief campaigner for Muhammad’s creed) probably was aware that women are more amenable to conversion than men.... slaves than freemen, persons in distress than persons in prosperity and affluence.”[2] Women slaves turned concubines could increase Muslim population by leaps and bounds when captured in large numbers[3]. Hence there was particular keenness on enslaving women from the very beginning of Islam.
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>>6245928

>This was also encouraged by the injunctions of the Quran. Muslims are allowed four wives besides they are allowed to cohabit with any of their female slaves. Surah iv:3 says, “Then marry what seem to be good to you of women”; Surah iv:29, “Take what your right hand possesses of young women”, and Surah xxxiii:49, “Verily we make lawful for thee what thy right hand possesses out of the booty God hath granted thee.” Muslims are allowed to take possession of married women if they are slaves. Surah iv:28 declares, “Unlawful for you are... married women, save such as your right hand possesses”, that is, female slaves captured in war. Manucci’s observation on the seventeenth century India is significant in this regard. He says that “all Muhammadans are fond of women, who are their principal relaxation and almost their only pleasure.” [4]

>From the teachings of the Quran quoted above, it will be seen that while Muhammad restricted the number of lawful wives, he did not restrict the number of slave girls and concubines.[5] All female slaves taken as plunder in war are the lawful property of their master, and the master has power to take to himself any female slave married or single. T.P. Hughes adds that “there is absolutely no limit to the number of slave girls with whom a Muhammadan may cohabit, and it is the consecration of this illimitable indulgence which so popularizes the Muhammadan religion amongst uncivilized nations, and so popularizes slavery in the Muslim religion”.[6]
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>>6245930

>In brief, the climatic conditions of Arabia the birth-place of Islam, Muhammad’s life-style as a model for Muslims, and injunctions in the Quran and the Hadis, determined Muslim psychology about women. Islam permits polygamy with unbelievable liberality. A man can have four wives at any point of time, that is, if he chooses to have a fifth one, he can divorce one of the already at hand and keep the number within the legal limits of four. Besides, he can have as many slave girls or concubines as he pleases. It is related in the Hadis that Muhammad said that “when the servant of God marries, he perfects half his religion.... Consequently in Islam, even the ascetic orders are rather married than single.” [7] In Islam there is provision for temporary marriage (muta), multi-marriages, divorce, remarriage of widows, concubinage — in short, there is freedom from all inhibitions and reservations in matters of sex. The insistence is on everybody marrying and celibacy is frowned upon. According to a tradition derived from Ibn Abbas and quoted by Ibn S’ad, popularly known as Katib al-Waqidi the Prophet’s biographer, Muhammad said that “in my ummah, he is the best who has the largest number of wives.” [8]
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>>6245931

>It has been repeatedly said Musalmans are allowed by the Quran and the Hadis to have four wives. The aphorisms and maxims current about this phenomenon indicate that all wives could not have been procured in the normal way; some would have been purchased, some others captured. One aphorism says, “One quarrels with you, two are sure to involve you in their quarrels; when you have three, factions are formed against her you love best; but four find society and occupation among themselves, leaving the husband in peace.” [9] According to another, “Wives there be four: there’s Bedfellow, Muckheap [dirty], Gadabout [idle] and Queen O’ women. The more the pity that the last is one in a hundred.” [10] Yet another says, “A man should marry four wives: A Persian to have some one to talk to; a Khurasani woman for his housework; a Hindu for nursing his children; a woman from Mawaraun nahr, or Transoxiana, to have someone to whip as a warning to the other three.” [11] The mention of so many nationalities in the sayings show that obtaining wives and concubines through all kinds of means — capture, purchase, enslavement — was in vogue among medieval Muslims.
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>>6245933

>In later times, this encouragement to polygamy was taken advantage of by Muslim conquerors. That Muhammad restricted the number of lawful wives but did not restrict the number of slave concubines, came handy to Musalmans. He “thus left upon the minds of his followers the inevitable impression that an unrestricted polygamy was the higher state...” [12] Hazrat Umar, the second Caliph, was the first to allow instant divorce (by the pronouncement of talaq, talaq, talaq, three times) called talaq-i-bidat (innovative form of divorce), “to meet an extraordinary situation brought on by wars of conquests”. Those wars brought in such an influx of women that constant divorce became necessary to falicitate quick acquisition of fresh spouses by divorcing the old ones. “Victory over an enemy would seem to have been consummated only when the enemy’s daughter was introduced into the conqueror’s harem” [13] — a precept so enthusiastically practised by Muslim conquerors and rulers in India.

>It is therefore no wonder that from the day the Muslim invaders marched into India to the time when their political power declined, women were systematically captured and enslaved throughout the length and breadth of the country. Two instances pertaining to two extreme points of time would suffice as examples. When Muhammad bin Qasim mounted his attack on Debal in 712, all males of the age of seventeen and upwards were put to the sword and their women and children were enslaved.[14] And after the Third Battle of Panipat (1761), “the unhappy prisoners were paraded in long lines, given a little parched grain and a drink of water, and beheaded... and the women and children who survived were driven off as slaves — twenty-two thousand, many of them of the highest rank in the land, says the Siyar- ul-Mutakh irin ,” [15]
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>>6245935

>The special interest of Muslims in sex slavery was universal and widespread and a plethora of evidence is available in contemporary Persian chronicles. In fact, Muslim historians derive extra delight in narrating anecdotes and stating facts about Muslim indulgence in sex and allied activities. Two incidents from the lives of the first two Sultans, Qutbuddin Aibak and Shamsuddin Iltutmish, may be mentioned here as examples.

>On the arrival of Qutbuddin Aibak at Karman (situated between Kabul and Bannu), Tajuddin Yaldoz received him with great kindness and honour and gave him his daughter in marriage. A fete was held on the occasion and poetical descriptions in Hasan Nizami’s Taj-ul-Maasir follow — “of stars, female beauty, cup-bearers, curls, cheeks, eyes, lips, mouths, stature, elegance, cups, wine, singers, guitars, bar- bets, trumpets, flutes, drums, of the morning, and the sun.”- [16] And again, when Aibak, some years later tried to remove Yaldoz form his kingdom, he marched to Ghazni and occupied the throne. But only for forty days, for during this period he was “wholly engaged in revelry”, wine and riot, and the affairs of the country through this constant festivity were neglected, and the “Turks of Ghazni and Muizzi Maliks” invited Yaldoz back to his capital. Aibak was incapable of opposing him and retired to Delhi.[17]
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>>6245937

>The following anecdote is related of Sultan Shamsuddin Iltutmish. He was greatly enamoured of a Turkish slave girl in his harem, whom he had purchased, and sought her caresses, but was always unable to achieve his object. One day he was seated, having his head anointed with some perfumed oil by the hands of the same slave girl, when he felt some tears fall on his head. On looking up, he found that she was weeping. He inquired of her the cause. She replied, “Once I had a brother who had such a bald place on his head as you have, and it reminds me of him.” On making further inquiries it was found that the slave girl was his own sister. They had both been sold as slaves, in their early childhood, by their half-brothers; and thus had Almighty God saved him from committing a great sin. Badaoni states in his work, “I heard this story myself, from the emperor Akbar’s own lips, and the monarch stated that this anecdote had been orally traced to Sultan Ghiyasuddin Balban himself.” [18]

>Distribution of Slave Girls

>Marriages brought servants and bandis, but the largest number of slave girls was collected during raids, campaigns and wars throughout the medieval period. We have briefly seen the achievements of Muslims in this regard from the time of Muhammad bin Qasim onwards. It was a consistent policy to kill all males, especially those capable of bearing arms, and enslave their hapless women.[19] Al Biladuri writes that “the governors (who succeeded Qasim) continued to kill the enemy, taking whatever they could acquire...” [20] Most of the captives were distributed among nobles and soldiers. Two examples of this custom may be given, one from the Sultanate and the other form the Mughal period.
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>>6245940

>Muhammad bin Tughlaq became notorious for enslaving women and his reputation in this regard spread far and wide. Ibn Battuta who visited India during his reign and stayed at the Court for a long time writes:

> “At (one) time there arrived in Delhi some female infidel captives, ten of whom the Vazir sent to me. I gave one of them to the man who had brought them to me.... My companion took three girls, and — I do not know what happened to the rest.” [21]

>On the large scale distribution of girl slaves on the occasion of Muslim festivals like Id, he writes:

>“First of all, daughters of Kafir (Hindu) Rajas captured during the course of the year, come and sing and dance. Thereafter they are bestowed upon Amirs and important foreigners. After this daughters of other Kafirs dance and sing... The Sultan gives them to his brothers, relatives, sons of Maliks etc. On the second day the durbar is held in a similar fashion after Asr. Female singers are brought out... the Sultan distributes them among the Mameluke Amirs” [22]

>Thousands of non-Muslim women were distributed in the above manner in later years.[23]

>Shahjahan attacked the Portuguese in Hugh in 1632, and captured many women. One such was Maria de Taides “one of the sisters living in the palace of king Sahajahan.” [24] Maria de Taides was later married to Ali Mardan Khan.[25] One Thomazia Martins also had been taken captive during the fall of Hugli. Many more like these were distributed among the nobles.
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>>6245941

>Concubinage

>Slave girls had two main functions to perform, domestic service and providing sex if and when required. In medieval Muslim society sex slavery and concubinage were almost interchangeable terms. For the polygamous Muslim men of means slave girls and maids were as much in demand as kanchanis or dancing girls, concubines or even free born women. Whether they were purchased in the open market [26], or captured during war, or selected during excursions, or came as maids of brides, in short whatever their channel of entry into the harem, the slave girls kept in the palace of the king or mahals of the nobles were invariably good looking. Their faces determined their place in the harem and in the heart of the master. Their being a little sexy was an additional attraction [27], but those with bad breath and odour in the arm- pits were avoided as unpleasant smell was repugnant to kissing and caressing.[28] They used to be elegantly attired. Their garments were sometimes gifted to them by their masters or mistresses. It was a custom that the princesses did not wear again the dresses they put on once, and gave them away to their bandis.[29] Some favourite slave girls were taught to sing and play on musical instruments. Many of them were trained to recite verses, naghmas and gbazals. The habit of speaking elegantly in correct diction and immaculate pronunciation was so familiar to the females of Muslim society that maids too were readily distinguished by their refined language. Placed as they were, they knew how to win the hearts of their masters who gave them lovely and caressing names like Gulab, Champa, Chameli, Nargis, Kesar, Kasturi, Gul-i- Badam, Sosan, Yasmin, Gul-i-Rana, Gul Andam, Gul Anar, Saloni, Madhumati, Sugandhara, Koil, Gulrang, Mehndi, Dil Afroz, Moti, Ketki, Mrig Nain, Kamal Nain, Basanti etc., etc. Elaborating on their ethnic status Manucci adds that
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>>6245943

>“All the above names are Hindu, and ordinarily these ...are Hindus by race, who had been carried off in infancy from various villages or the houses of different rebel Hindu princes. In spite of their Hindu names, they are however,-Mahomedans.” [30]

>As a rule, “being kafir is a defect in both ghulam and bandi as by nature the Musalman detests to associate with or keep company of a kafir.” [31] Obviously, the number of such converted slave girls was so large that even Hindu names of all of them could not be changed to Islamic ones. For instance, while under Aurangzeb women and children of the Rajputs and Marathas [32] were regularly enslaved during raids and invasions, even nobles of lesser note indulged in reckless enslavement throughout. Sidi Yaqut of Janjira or Zanjira (Zanj is used for black African), once took a Maratha fort and seven hundred persons came out. Notwithstanding his word to grant quarter to the garrison “he made the children and pretty women slaves, and forcibly converted them to Islam... but the men he put to death.” [33]

>Hijras

>Early in the eighteenth century Muslim rule in India set on its path of decline. The harems of royalty and nobility began to suffer from a financial crunch. Many slave girls in these establishments, unable to bear the rigours of penury, left their palaces and mansions and took up quarters in the cities to fend for themselves. Thousands of eunuch guards of the harems also took to the streets when their services were dispensed with or starvation knocked at their doors.[34]

>In their effort to provide means of livelihood for themselves many slave girls adopted the profession of dancing girls and prostitutes and hundreds of eunuchs, thrown out of employment, turned bhands and hijras. Prostitution is practised the world over, hijras are a people peculiar to India. Basically, and historically, they have come down or ‘descended’ from the medieval eunuchs.
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>>6245944

>A typical and complete hijra was Sultan Qutbuddin Mubarak Khalji (1316-1320). He occasionally dressed himself in female attire, embroidered with laces and adorned with gems, and went about dancing in the houses of the nobles like a typical hijra. Similarly, Hasan Kangu, the ruler of Malabar, often used to come to court {darbar-i-am) dressed in the fashion of females. He bedecked his arms and neck with jewellery and ornaments and used to ask his nobles to treat him to sexual passivity.[35] In short, the courts of Qutbuddin and Hasan Kangu presented licence and obscenity of the hijras in utter nakedness.

>In the polygamous Muslim society some men possessed a plurality of women leaving many other men to remain unmarried. This led the latter to entice, abduct and enslave girls wherever possible as well as to make love to beardless boys (amrads) and hijras. Thus need combined with perversion contributed to the proliferation of hijras. This is amply reflected in a brief survey of life in Delhi in Muraqqa-i-Dihli (Album of Delhi) written by Dargah Quli Khan who visited the metropolis in 1738-39 and often walked through its streets. Like in the fourteenth, in the eighteenth century also one found in the city of Delhi boys dancing in a world of lecherous sinners soliciting their hearts’ desire. Amrads were as much in demand as courtesans.[36] During and after the decline of the Mughal empire, hijras did not remain confined to cities like Delhi or Agra. They spread far and wide but especially where the scions or governors of the Mughals established independent states like in Avadh or Hyderabad. A good number of hijras are found in Lucknow and in Hyderabad, as well as in cities like Bombay where ‘composite culture’ and a respectable presence of Muslims obtains.
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>>6245946

>These unfortunate hijras, who have continued as a legacy of the Muslim slave system, still play a pernicious and parasitical role in Indian society. Their aggressive demand for benefaction makes them detested. There are many negative aspects of Muslim slave system of which probably the hijra is the worst. But in medieval times hijras were as essential a part of Muslim society as any other section. In Delhi and its environs there are extant a number of mausoleums, called Gumbads, of the Saiyyad and Lodi period. It is an interesting fact that with Bare Khan Ka Gumbad (Dome and Tomb), Chhote Khan Ka Gumbad, Dadi ka Gumbad, and Poti Ka Gumbad, there is also the famous Hijre Ka Gumbad.[37]

>This excerpt is taken from MUSLIM SLAVE SYSTEM IN INDIA by KS Lal and reproduced with the kind permission of the publisher.

>Excerpt

>Sex Slavery In Islamic India

>Enslavement of women, children and men, followed by their sexual exploitation was an integral part of the Muslim rule in Medieval India.

>by KS Lal
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>>6245948

This is an article on the sale of Circassian, Syrian and Nubian sex slave girls in 19th century Ottoman Stamboul (Constantinople). The "Armenian renegade" helping pimp the slaves in this story was a convert to Islam. Renegade was a term used for any Christian who converted to Islam and defected to the Ottomans.

https://www.nytimes.com/1886/03/28/archives/slaves-sold-to-the-turk-how-the-vile-traffic-is-still-carried-on-in.html

https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1886/03/28/106300694.pdf
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>>6245856
You seem to mistake me for a liberal. I am an American and I think this country went downhill when the tyrant Lincoln subjugated the South.

Yes, they became healthy, the medicine worked. Then they repaid his kindness with treachery.

>>6245859
Preferring white women is not a sin, although enslaving free people is a serious sin. No orthodox Hadith supports enslavement, although owning slaves per we is permissible

>>6245860
>>6245863

Muslims *cannot pray without doing ablution*. Absolution lasts until you go to the bathroom or ejaculate or some other things. Once that happens, you have to do it again before praying, and Islam requires five ornate prayers every day. So is saying all water works to ritually cleanse you (if there is literally no water, sand is permitted). He is not talking about it being safe to drink.

>>6245865
Mainstream Islam does not support, let alone require, female circumcision. Some Muslims recognize or read Hadiths as requiring it, but they are a minority. Just like most Muslims say women must where the hijab, but only a small minority say women must cover their face

>>6245867
Abraham had a child by his slave, Islam is the religion of Abraham. But if she is a Muslim you must marry her (which Abraham did)
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>>6245906

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-preacher-who-raped-and-tortured-his-five-year-old-daughter-to-death-is-released-after-paying-8480440.html

>Saudi preacher who 'raped and tortured' his five -year-old daughter to death is released after paying 'blood money'

>A ‘celebrity’ Saudi preacher accused of raping, torturing and killing his five-year-old daughter has reportedly been released from custody after agreeing to pay ‘blood money’.

>Fayhan al-Ghamdi had been accused of killing his daughter Lama, who suffered multiple injuries including a crushed skull, broken back, broken ribs, a broken left arm and extensive bruising and burns. Social workers say she had also been repeatedly raped and burnt.
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>>6245970
The Sunni Hanafi, Hanbali and Maliki Madhhabs said female circumcision is honorable and sunnah. The Sunni Shafi'i madhhab says female circumcision is mandatory upon women. Female circumcisiin is widely practiced in Shafi'i Sunni Yemen, Dhofar, Dagestan, Hormuzgan, Egypt, Malaysia and Indonesia.
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>>6245978
Why should the Muslims be blamed for the crimes of the Wahhabi Khawariji who the West installed in power and who only exist due to western support?
If you left the Muslims alone we would rejoin Turkey and reform the ottoman khilafat.
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>>6245856
Arab superiority.

Yemen Arab Sadah (plural for Sayyid) forbade Arab Sadah girls from marrying non-Arab Muslim men. Look up kafa'ah among Arabs.

https://islamicvirtues.com/2013/12/12/superiority-of-the-race-of-arabs-over-non-arabs/

https://islamicvirtues.com/2013/12/13/non-arab-men-are-not-suitable-for-marriage/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafa%27ah#The_Hadhrami_Controversy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Surkati#At_Jamiat_Kheir


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakdiyah_Ma%27ruf

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/11/04/the-angry-hijabi-who-finds-solace-comedy.html

>'For Hadrami-Arab men, it is OK to marry outside their community, but as women, we have this burden of upholding our identity, whatever that means. We don't even speak Arabic for heaven's sake,' said the woman, who learned English on her own by watching TV shows.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sakdiyah-maruf/muslim-comedienne-in-indonesia_b_5590076.html

>Comedy found me in 2009. I have been enjoying U.S. sitcoms and comedy features since I was at elementary school. Little did I know that this will be one of my paths of devotion to God, my community and my country, Indonesia. In 2009, I found the DVD of Robin Williams’ Live on Broadway, watched it several times and immediately knew that “this is it.” Comedy is amazingly subtle, yet profoundly controversial, in its wordplays and wit. From then on, I started doing stand-up. Stand-up teaches me to be completely honest with myself, my experience and my flaws. I remember starting mild by talking about myself being an old-maid in the eyes of Arab descent community, but that Javanese men also have no mercy as they firmly belief that I should and will marry someone from Arab descent community. No hope, no boyfriend, no nothing. I then gradually move to addressing issues of violence committed in the name of Islam and issues surrounding the irony of Muslim fashionistas.
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>>6245990
Not even all Sunnis recognised the Ottomans claims to the caliphate. Morocco refused to recognise Ottomans as khilafat. The Moroccan Sultans called themselves Amir ul-Mu'mineen and rejected the Ottoman claim. The Sudanese Mahdi did not recognise the Ottomans as khilafat. Zaidi Shia had their own Imams and fought against the Ottomans.
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>>6245989
So are honor killings. No widely accepted Hadith quotes the Prophet advocating it

>>6246001
Oh dear, they don't try to push the "one race, the human race" meme. So?
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>>6246061
It's okay for Sadah Arab men to marry and fuck non Sadah non Arab women but not okay for non Arab men to marry Sadah and Arab women in the Shafi'i, Hanafi and Hanbali Madhhabs. It advocates Sadah and Arab superiority.
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>>6246072
It isn't exactly a common Hadith, but I don't see why it would hinder their spirituality.
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>>6246061
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Female_Genital_Mutilation#Hadith

A preservation of honor for women
Abu al- Malih ibn `Usama's father relates that the Prophet said: "Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honour for women."
Ahmad Ibn Hanbal 5:75; Abu Dawud, Adab 167.
Do not cut "severely"
Note that the judgement concerning what is severe is relative.
Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah: A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.
Sunan Abu Dawud 41:5251
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>>6246132
>>6246061
When the circumcised parts touch each other
Abu Musa reported: There cropped up a difference of opinion between a group of Muhajirs (Emigrants and a group of Ansar (Helpers) (and the point of dispute was) that the Ansar said: The bath (because of sexual intercourse) becomes obligatory only-when the semen spurts out or ejaculates. But the Muhajirs said: When a man has sexual intercourse (with the woman), a bath becomes obligatory (no matter whether or not there is seminal emission or ejaculation). Abu Musa said: Well, I satisfy you on this (issue). He (Abu Musa, the narrator) said: I got up (and went) to 'A'isha and sought her permission and it was granted, and I said to her: 0 Mother, or Mother of the Faithful, I want to ask you about a matter on which I feel shy. She said: Don't feel shy of asking me about a thing which you can ask your mother, who gave you birth, for I am too your mother. Upon this I said: What makes a bath obligatory for a person? She replied: You have come across one well informed! The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: When anyone sits amidst four parts (of the woman) and the circumcised parts touch each other a bath becomes obligatory.
Sahih Muslim 3:684

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_on_female_genital_mutilation#Southeast_Asia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_female_genital_mutilation_by_country#Middle_East
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>>6245867
>>6245871
>>6245875

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/14/world/middleeast/isis-enshrines-a-theology-of-rape.html

>ISIS Enshrines a Theology of Rape
>Claiming the Quran’s support, the Islamic State codifies sex slavery in conquered regions of Iraq and Syria and uses the practice as a recruiting tool.

>QADIYA, Iraq — In the moments before he raped the 12-year-old girl, the Islamic State fighter took the time to explain that what he was about to do was not a sin. Because the preteen girl practiced a religion other than Islam, the Quran not only gave him the right to rape her — it condoned and encouraged it, he insisted.

>He bound her hands and gagged her. >Then he knelt beside the bed and prostrated himself in prayer before getting on top of her.

>When it was over, he knelt to pray again, bookending the rape with acts of religious devotion.

>“I kept telling him it hurts — please stop,” said the girl, whose body is so small an adult could circle her waist with two hands. “He told me that according to Islam he is allowed to rape an unbeliever. He said that by raping me, he is drawing closer to God,” she said in an interview alongside her family in a refugee camp here, to which she escaped after 11 months of captivity.

>The systematic rape of women and girls from the Yazidi religious minority has become deeply enmeshed in the organization and the radical theology of the Islamic State in the year since the group announced it was reviving slavery as an institution. Interviews with 21 women and girls who recently escaped the Islamic State, as well as an examination of the group’s official communications, illuminate how the practice has been enshrined in the group’s core tenets.
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>>6246141

>The trade in Yazidi women and girls has created a persistent infrastructure, with a network of warehouses where the victims are held, viewing rooms where they are inspected and marketed, and a dedicated fleet of buses used to transport them.

>A total of 5,270 Yazidis were abducted last year, and at least 3,144 are still being held, according to community leaders. To handle them, the Islamic State has developed a detailed bureaucracy of sex slavery, including sales contracts notarized by the ISIS-run Islamic courts. And the practice has become an established recruiting tool to lure men from deeply conservative Muslim societies, where casual sex is taboo and dating is forbidden.

>A growing body of internal policy memos and theological discussions has established guidelines for slavery, including a lengthy how-to manual issued by the Islamic State Research and Fatwa Department just last month. Repeatedly, the ISIS leadership has emphasized a narrow and selective reading of the Quran and other religious rulings to not only justify violence, but also to elevate and celebrate each sexual assault as spiritually beneficial, even virtuous.

>“Every time that he came to rape me, he would pray,” said F, a 15-year-old girl who was captured on the shoulder of Mount Sinjar one year ago and was sold to an Iraqi fighter in his 20s. Like some others interviewed by The New York Times, she wanted to be identified only by her first initial because of the shame associated with rape.

>“He kept telling me this is ibadah,” she said, using a term from Islamic scripture meaning worship.
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>>6246143

>A 15-year-old girl who wished to be identified only as F, right, with her father and 4-year-old brother. “Every time that he came to rape me, he would pray,” said F, who was captured by the Islamic State on Mount Sinjar one year ago and sold to an Iraqi fighter.Credit Mauricio Lima for The New York Times
>“He said that raping me is his prayer to God. I said to him, ‘What you’re doing to me is wrong, and it will not bring you closer to God.’ And he said, ‘No, it’s allowed. It’s halal,’ ” said the teenager, who escaped in April with the help of smugglers after being enslaved for nearly nine months.
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>>6243923
>chungus
hahaha
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>>6246144

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsworld-middle-east-45245173

>Nadia Murad, a Yazidi woman who survived horrific abuse at the hands of the Islamic State (IS) militant group, has revealed she is engaged to a fellow Yazidi human rights activist.

>The 25-year-old said "the struggle for our people" brought her together with Abid Shamdeen.

>The announcement comes days after the fourth anniversary of the IS attack on Ms Murad's village, Kocho.

>Six of her brothers were killed in the massacre, and she was kidnapped.

>During her time in captivity, she was bought and sold several times, and was subjected to sexual and physical abuse - including gang rape.

>Ms Murad shared her story after managing to escape, and was appointed the first UNODC Goodwill Ambassador for the Dignity of Survivors of Human Trafficking in 2016.

>On Monday, both Ms Murad and Mr Shamdeen shared a picture of themselves as they announced their engagement.
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>>6246151

http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/reports/459150
>The day IS attacked
>Before the IS militants attacked Sinjar region on 3rd August 2014, Ashwaq was living with her family in Khanasore subdistrict of Sinjar. They were a large family who were happy together.
>“The day Daesh [IS] attacked we were informed that Snune [a nearby subdistrict] had already fallen into IS hands, but we couldn’t escape Khanasore because other routes were also blocked. At the beginning there were only a few IS militants with their vehicles, but, very soon, the Muslim Arabs who were living in the nearby villages joined them with their guns in hand,” Ashwaq’s father said.
>He explained that before IS attacked, the Yezidis were living in the area peacefully with the Muslims, but, all of a sudden, everything changed.
>“The militants who attacked our home were under the command of a man known as ‘Nashmi Asali’. He was the nephew of the chief in the nearby Hasawek village. We were 77 people from our family when we were caught. They asked us to convert to Islam immediately; but I told them that we cannot do that before talking to our religious leaders.”
>Ashwaq’s father pointed out that Asali had asked him to talk to other Yezidis who had already fled to Mount Sinjar to return and they will be safe. The militants want them to gather in Ashwaq’s home and hold a large meeting between Yezidis and attacking the IS militants.
>“When Asali and his men left we decided to escape, but it was not possible because other Muslim Arabs in the area reported our plan to the militants. They immediately arrived, singled out 66 people from our family and drove them to Syria. It was only me, my sister, her husband, three of their children who were all disabled, and my uncle’s family left.”
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>>6246153
>They stayed under home arrest for 45 days, but could not risk more than that as they fled after midnight to Mount Sinjar. “Only God knows how we carried the elderlies and the three disabled children through all those dangers in darkness,” Ashwaq’s father said in a soft tone.
>Up to the moment, five brothers of Ashwaq are missing and her sister is still in IS captivity. Dozens of other family members, including uncles and aunts, are still suffering at the hand of IS. Some others were either rescued or bought back from IS.
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>>6246155

https://twitter.com/PollaGarmiany/status/1029470902055051264

>This is Ashwaq, a Yazidi girl who was kidnapped by ISIS in 2014 when the terrorist group attacked Kurdistan-Iraq. After her escape and her migration to Germany, she met the man who had bought her as a slave, walking around freely in Germany. This is unacceptable!

https://twitter.com/Rojavian/status/1029487056672776192

>Ashwaq a Yazidi girl, kidnapped by ISIS in 2014, she fled to Germany. And there she saw the ISIS man who bought her for 100$ walking free in Germany. He even confronted her After talking to German police, the officers told her that the man is an asylum seeker just like her

https://twitter.com/Ezidi2/status/1029355740308402176

>In #Germany
>Ashwaq meets Abu Humam,the ISIS militant who hd bought her in Iraq’s Mosul for $100
>“The police told me that he is also a refugee,just like me,&that they could not d anything about it.They just gave me a phone No. that I could contact in case AbuHumam ever stopped me
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>>6246157

https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/1048215896043507715

>Inspiring that @NadiaMuradBasee won the 2018 Nobel Peace Price. She is a a Yazidi survivor of sexual slavery by the Islamic State in Iraq. Never forget the unimaginable pain that the Yazidis had to endure. Read my thread from when I was in Raqqa last year.

https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/893182653767319552

>1/ When I was in Syria, ISIS women told me how Yazidi slaves had to endure virginity tests, rapes &jealous ISIS wives. Thread in English.

>2/ Today marks 3yrs after horrible ISIS slaughter of Yazidis in Sinjar. At least 3100 male Yazidis killed, 7000+ women &children enslaved.

>3/ Yazidis have testified about ISIS crimes extensively. But rarely have ISIS members spoken about topic of Yazidi slavery. @akhbar

>4/ That's why during my stay in Syria I specifically asked captured ISIS wives to tell me their version of slavery stories. Very disturbing.

>5/ I will now translate my interview with Lebanese ISIS wife on slavery of Yazidis. You can see her interview in 1st tweet of this thread.

>6/ "When ISIS took Sinjar, all Yazidi men they found were killed. ISIS considers them real kuffar (unbelievers) so they had to be killed"

>7/ "The women, they were all gathered. They (ISIS) told the women: "Take off your clothes". And then ISIS brought a doctor to inspect them."

>8/ "The ISIS doctor checked who is virgin and who is married. Because otherwise ISIS cannot know who is virgin and who is not a virgin."

>9/ "Upon inspection the doctor would say: 'This is a virgin, this not.' ISIS then separated the virgins from the none virgins."

>10/ "They also collected the none adult males (they call them abeed or male slaves) and they separated them into a different group too."

>11/ "Many ISIS soldiers participated in the Sinjar battle and afterwards every fighter got a sabiya (female Yazidi slave) as a gift."
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>>6246160

https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/893192479306022912

>12/ "All soldiers were happy to get female slaves, because they could have sex with them. Slave owners offered own slaves to their friends."

>13/ "Each day a different friend slept with slave. Sometimes they slept with slave from back (anal intercourse). It's forbidden in Islam."

>14/ "They end up taking slaves 2hospital because they got injured from way they had sex with them. Some of slaves were really young in age."

>15/ "When they sleep with the young girls, they start bleeding, so ISIS fighters sometimes would take them to the hospital for treatment."

>16/ "When it reached al-Baghdadi how fighters were sleeping with slaves, he didnt accept that. This isn't way to deal with slaves, he said."

>17/ "Baghdadi told ISIS fighters: Slave owners must do sharia/religious course. This course will teach you rules on how 2deal with slavery"

>18/ "After completion of sharia course, ISIS fighters kept slaves to themselves. And didn't allow friends to have sex with their slaves."

>19/ "Also a new rule: If you want to sell your slave, you have 2wait until she passes 1 menstrual cycle before new owner can sleep with her"

>20/ "Later selling slaves became a business. ISIS fighter would buy a slave for $1000. Then he sells her for 3000 dollars to make profit."

>21/ "There was slave auctions. 1fighter said: "I want for my slave $10.000." Others said: "No mine is better, she's virgin,$20.000 for her!"

>22/ I sat in shock listening to this emotionless ISIS wive. Then I asked if her own husband had a slave.
>https://twitter.com/akhbar/status/893126997068488704

>23/ "My first husband, who was Lebanese, had a friend who owned a female (Yazidi) slave. He asked my husband's help to sell his slave."

>24/ "My husband explained to him: There is a Telegram channel, it is called 'Souk lil Sabaya'. All the fighters of ISIS are in this group."
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>>6246163

https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/893206402747035648

>25/ "I saw many pics on this telegram channel. ISIS puts pics of slave w/good clothes, makeup, showing her body to get best selling price."

>26/ "ISIS fighters start bidding for slave. If she's beautiful, high price. If she's pretty &virgin VERY expensive. Some sold for $30.000."

>27/ "My husband was on that channel, selling &buying slaves. Friend of husband loved 2have slaves, always changing them, sleeping with them"

>28/ "If he wants to buy a slave, he not only wants to see pic, he will touch her body. He checks if it's good for him, if her breasts OK..."

>29/ "Some ISIS guys ask: We will not buy slave until we see it all, they have to undress. Others were okay with seeing only pic and buy."

>30/ "Some (ISIS fighters) would say: I want to see her naked, why should I get cheated and get a bad quality slave?"

>31/ "In Raqqa there was market for slaves. I can’t remember which day. When it's slave market, it gets so crowded esp Saudi ISIS fighters"

>32/ "ISIS fighters start fighting in market over slaves. And when they take slave home, their wives fight with them bcz they feel jealous"

>33/ "Some ISIS fighters would treat their female slaves better than their own wives. He will buy for the slave make-up &nice clothes."

>34/ "Some (ISIS) fighters will basically treat their slave good for personal reasons because he wants to sleep with her."

>35/ "Others would treat their slave good because they want to sell the slave and you get more money when the slave looks good."

>36/ "It's just like when you are selling a car, you have to show the car in its best condition to get the best price. Same goes for slaves."

>37/ "My Lebanese husband, he did not mind having a slave. But he did not have enough money to buy one."

>38/ "My current Tunisian (ISIS) husband he did not want to have a slave. His friend gave him one slave as a gift, but he didn’t take her."
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>>6246165

https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/893219726318604288

>39/ "My husband hates the issue of slaves. He said: I don’t accept it that woman I sleep with has slept with many different guys before."

>40/ "One time I saw (in Raqqa) a slave girl &she was crying very loud because every time they would sell her to a different fighter."

>41/ "I told her: I cant help you. Either convert to Islam, become Muslim or try to run away. If I help her, ISIS would arrest me or kill me”

>42/ Above tweets are word-by-word translation of what ISIS wife told me. I interviewed another woman on same topic. Maybe I translate later.

>43/ When u read my thread on ISIS slavery it's shocking 2realize there's no int mechanism to punish ISIS. No UN court. Many ISIS walk free.

>44/ Anyhow, this was a long thread. Hope it was helpful. Thank you all for your attention.

https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/1096024802886856709

>There are still everywhere in ex-ISIS territories mass graves. There are many enslaved yazidi women still missing.

https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/1097963753281409024

>On the importance of investigating ISIS female members and bringing those who were involved in the enslavement of Yazidi women to justice
>https://twitter.com/Free_Yezidi/status/1097960559067234305
>Captured ISIS perps and ISIS wives #ISIS #Yezidi #Yazidi #YazidiGenocide #ISIScrimes #ISISwives

https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/1025468297825927169

>ISIS views Yazidis as “devil worshippers” & treated them in most horrible way. Killing, raping, slavery…genocide. Nobody can imagine what Yazidis went/going through. May justice come quickly.
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Rape is not a sin in Islam, murder is not a sin in Islam, pedophilia is not a sin in Islam, lying is not a sin in Islam, Islam is cancer. Momo was pedo schizo
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>>6246174
Those are all very serious sins in Sunni Islam
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>>6246048
All those are fringe minorities. Vast majority of Middle East would rejoin an Ottoman Empire by Democratic popular acclamation tomorrow if given the chance. You could hold a plebiscite if you want.

Ottomans didn’t fall because they were unpopular or hated, and despite western memes to the contrary the Muslims want them back.
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>>6245881
She, the slave girl, must have gotten pregnant from his pre-cum.
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>>6245591
>The Quran says do no violence to people of the book.

>O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.
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>>6246303
Yes, but see 5:69. Muslims are not to be friends or allies with Christians or Jews, but this does not mean to hurt them
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>>6244084
I really don't understand why Westerners pretend to have this moral high ground over Islam. You people genocided pagans conquered a third of the world and the literal reason the Byzantines were attacked is because they killed a local king who converted.
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>>6245591
>The author is a Sunni imam and scholar
The Holocaust didn't happen.

Source: I'm a Nazi.
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>if you leave our Iron Age cult the punishment is death
>b-but we're not violent
Haha.
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>>6246628
>you people
"Us people" being some people 1500 years ago. And if you didn't notice Christianity is not the law in modern European countries. We don't murder people for leaving Christianity or "offending Jesus". We don't shape our society to conform to the ideas of Iron Age Arabs.
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>>6245591
>But this does not mean anyone who isn't a Muslim
I want to eat pork, in public, all day any day. I don't care it's your holy month, it's not my holy month, and I want to eat my salami sandwich in the street, so I'm going to eat my salami sandwich in the street.
Muslims think this is "waging war against Allah" merely because I am showing I don't give a shit about their god and their religion, AS IS MY RIGHT TO.
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>>6246761
I don't care if you do that and I doubt any Muslim does. If you denigrated the Prophet however you would cause outrage but Islam would also says going out of the way to denigrate Christianity by burning Christian iconography or holy books is wrong. But your priorities are all messed up if you think freedom to disrespect religion is what you should be focused on conserving right now while moral turpitude is running rampant.
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>>6246749
That you allow blasphemy of Jesus openly while "antisemitism" gets you ostracized or even persecuted in some countries (and in America it is often illegal to even boycott Israel), is nothing to be proud of.
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>>6246816
You're absolutely allowed to mock Judaism wherever you want. And no, it won't make you ostracized.
Anti-Semitism is something else.
>proud of
I'm proud that my people evolved beyond Iron Age myths. If you can't say bullshit is bullshit, that's quite a shit situation. Except in Islam they will murder you for pointing out 2+2 is 4.
Sorry, we just have different mentality. How "good" is your is evidenced by the fact that Muslim countries are some of the most miserable, corrupt and dysgenic places in the world.
Are you "proud" of that?
Or did the evil Jews and Christians do that?
Which bullshit excuse is it, that will allow you to ignore the elephant in the room?
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>>6246806
>I don't care if you do that and I doubt any Muslim does
Yeah, that's why public pork is forbidden in muslims countries, to non-muslims too. As is everything good!
>If you denigrated the Prophet however you would cause outrage
Except that to you pieces of shit saying "I don't believe in your god or in your prophet, I think it's a bunch of bollocks and that you want to force something you can't prove on me" gets you outraged anyway, you do not let me disagree about the existence of your god politely or not. You lying asshole.
>your priorities are all messed up if you think freedom to disrespect religion is what you should be focused on
My focus is keeping my freedom to live as I want. Those absolutely normal things you consider "bad"? They are good to me and I want my freedom to do them no matter what you or your god think about them, your opinion doesn't mean shit to me, you can go commit suicide.
>moral turpitude
The only moral turpitude here is yours.
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>>6246816
based ISIS faggot trying to recruit people afraid of jews. If you genuinely are a southerner you need to get your shit together instead of crying over being a loser. Post a pic of your face.
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>>6246072
We turks have the same rule. You might be muslim but we still want turkish grandchildren so no way you're going to marry our kids. There is a difference between not being racist and giving your kids to foreigners even if they are brothers in faith.
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>>6246850
Lel if a US politician even thinks of critisizing Israel he or she gets blacklisted. Anyway keeo sucking that cut jew cock you seem to like it.
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>>6246864
That's bullshit though most muslim countries do openly sell pork its just that almost nobody buys it aside from atheists.
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Do the people who write western apologetics of islam even realise how westernised they are?

the only reason they are seeking to white-wash sharia law is either because western norms have elevated their morality and made them less brutal and more empathetic and fair-minded than islamic norms, or because they know that their audience would not accept say female genital mutilation.

Meanwhile if they still lived in a muslim-majority country and seeked out a fatwa from the senior scholars of indonesia or saudi arabia or al azhar they would unanimously be told that the person who converts away from islam sshould be killed, or that female genital mutilation is obligatory (if they're part of the shafi school of islamic law, which none of the other schools of islamic law denounce as backward and barbaric because of this)
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>>6247052
It's so sad that the only "defense" of Islam that you have is sperging out about Jews. That might work on /pol/ illiterates but not here.
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>>6247036
Your second class status is enshrined in the religion you illiterate. It's not an informal social rule, those Madhhabs says Arabs are superior to non Arabs and that they should be able to take your women while you are not suitible for their women. Read the first two links in >>6246001
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>>6246806
You are lying. The rules for dhimma under the caliphates forbid non Muslims from flaunting their religion in public. Today it's still enforced by the majority, a non Muslim eating in public during Ramadan in a Middle Eastern country (besides Christian Lebanon) risks getting physically assaulted.
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>>6246213
12er Shia, Zaidi Shia, Nizari Ismaili Shia, Mustali Ismaili Shia, Alawis, Druze, Ibadis, Christians, Yazidis, Saudi Sunnis and Moroccan Sunnis would all reject joining the Ottoman Empire.
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>>6245020
based and redpilled
no fbi por favor
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>>6246196
Sunnis permit offensive lying. The Shafi fiqh book Reliance of the Traveller says lying is allowed to advance goals (the goals of Sunnis against non Muslims during war) and to settle disputes by lying to the parties involved. It's just called lying, not taqiyya. The minimum age for sex in Sunnism for underage girls is nine years old. Sunnis permit rape of slave women taken in war. Murder of slaves and non Muslims is only punished ny a small fine, a fraction of the price paid for the murder of a Muslim and a Muslim's family could demand execution while non Muslim family of a non Muslim victim cannot demand execution if the killer is a Muslim. Reliance of the Traveller demands female circumcision be done on women.
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>>6246806
>>6247121
Reposting this relevant post from another thread.

Caliph Umar forced dhimmis to shave the front of their heads and other humuliating requirements.

Ignoring the apologia claiming Europe treated others worse and that this was good the stipulations of the Pact of Umar are listed here.

https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/source/pact-umar.asp

http://www.bu.edu/mzank/Jerusalem/tx/pactofumar.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pact_of_Umar#Origin_and_authenticity

Ibn Taymiyyah means they have to fight against fellow Christians to free themselves from the pact.
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>>6247297
Repost:

We heard from 'Abd al-Rahman ibn Ghanam [died 78/697] as follows: When Umar ibn al-Khattab, may God be pleased with him, accorded a peace to the Christians of Syria, we wrote to him as follows:

In the name of God, the Merciful and Compassionate. This is a letter to the servant of God Umar [ibn al-Khattab], Commander of the Faithful, from the Christians of such-and-such a city. When you came against us, we asked you for safe-conduct (aman) for ourselves, our descendants, our property, and the people of our community, and we undertook the following obligations toward you:

We shall not build, in our cities or in their neighborhood, new monasteries, Churches, convents, or monks' cells, nor shall we repair, by day or by night, such of them as fall in ruins or are situated in the quarters of the Muslims.

We shall keep our gates wide open for passersby and travelers. We shall give board and lodging to all Muslims who pass our way for three days.

We shall not give shelter in our churches or in our dwellings to any spy, nor bide him from the Muslims.

We shall not teach the Qur'an to our children.

We shall not manifest our religion publicly nor convert anyone to it. We shall not prevent any of our kin from entering Islam if they wish it.

We shall show respect toward the Muslims, and we shall rise from our seats when they wish to sit.

We shall not seek to resemble the Muslims by imitating any of their garments, the qalansuwa, the turban, footwear, or the parting of the hair. We shall not speak as they do, nor shall we adopt their kunyas.

We shall not mount on saddles, nor shall we gird swords nor bear any kind of arms nor carry them on our- persons.

We shall not engrave Arabic inscriptions on our seals.

We shall not sell fermented drinks.

We shall clip the fronts of our heads.

We shall always dress in the same way wherever we may be, and we shall bind the zunar round our waists
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>>6247299
Repost:

We shall not display our crosses or our books in the roads or markets of the Muslims. We shall use only clappers in our churches very softly. We shall not raise our voices when following our dead. We shall not show lights on any of the roads of the Muslims or in their markets. We shall not bury our dead near the Muslims.

We shall not take slaves who have been allotted to Muslims.

We shall not build houses overtopping the houses of the Muslims.
(When I brought the letter to Umar, may God be pleased with him, he added, "We shall not strike a Muslim.")

We accept these conditions for ourselves and for the people of our community, and in return we receive safe-conduct.

If we in any way violate these undertakings for which we ourselves stand surety, we forfeit our covenant [dhimma], and we become liable to the penalties for contumacy and sedition.

Umar ibn al-Khittab replied: Sign what they ask, but add two clauses and impose them in addition to those which they have undertaken. They are: "They shall not buy anyone made prisoner by the Muslims," and "Whoever strikes a Muslim with deliberate intent shall forfeit the protection of this pact."

from Al-Turtushi, Siraj al-Muluk, pp. 229-230.

[This was a from hand out at an Islamic History Class at the University of Edinburgh in 1979. Source of translation not given.]
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>>6247053
No, your post is bullshit because muslims countries do not let shops openly sell pork to the public. Pic related. There's no shop sporting a drawing of a pig cut in pork cuts on open display open to the public during ramadan where people can go in and out without being blocked, threatened, harmed, harassed or insulted by muslims. I don't want islam I want pork. You want to kill and hurt anyone who doesn't give a shit about your bullshit religion. You should get killed you piece of crap.
>atheists
As if. They don't even need to do anything, you just murder them the moment you realize they're atheists, you subhuman.
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(Pis)slam getting BTFO ITT.
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>>6246850
Are you proud of being ruled by homosexuality and matriarchy?

Your persecute the blasphemy of racism more than blasphemy of God and his prophets, is nothing to be proud of

>>6247202
Don't know enough about Shafi to speak on this, you will have to cite

>>6247297
>>6247299
>>6247308

These are hardly worse than contemporary Christian stipulations for Jews
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>>6247501
Kill yourself pork hater
Death to all those who insult delicious bacon
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>>6247377
You country is mass murdering babies and promoting sodomy and promiscuity yet pork is your major concern?
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>>6247516
Your country is mass murdering everyone who doesn't give a shit about your shit religion and promoting pisslam, your country is a shithole I don't want to live in
Pork > pisslam
Muslims die
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>>6247501
I just cited the specific Shafi fiqh book or are you unable to read?
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>>6247549
My country is America


>>6247572
No, but could you cite which parts or passage you are making your claims about?
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>>6247501
>homosexuality
You tell me, since it's prevalent in Islamic countries.
>nothing to be proud of
Highest human development, rule of law, material wealth in general, life oportunities, immense cultural and technological output. Europeans and North Americans have a lot to be proud about.
What are YOU proud about? Violence, sodomy, rape, poverty, illiteracy, dogmas?
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>>6247763
>'When it is possible to achieve an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible, and lying is obligatory if the goal is obligatory.' (Reliance of the Traveler, r8.2)
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>>6247763
>shitskin parasite trying to ruin a superior country and turn it into the shithole his turd family comes from
typical
Your country is whatever islamic shithole your family comes from
You don't deserve America
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>>6246806
Ah yes, Best keep my Moral turpitude in check. Lest i be stoned by a Muslim.
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>>6247763
>>6247771
Relliance of the Traveller on female circumcision.

https://answering-islam.org/Sharia/fem_circumcision.html

>Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female)
>by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male,
>but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the clitoris
>(this is called HufaaD). {bold emphasis ours}

I can read Arabic and this is the correct translation.
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>>6247763
>his country is America
>hates people having liberty, rights and freedom
You're not American.
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>>6246850
>ruled by secular jews and degeneracy
>thinks hes free
top kek
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>>6247789
Muslims should be burned alive all
When the slavs genocided all muslims turkroaches they only did good, should have genocided the whole of turk*y too
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>>6247807
The secular LGBTQ feminist Jews are the ones who do the most apologia and defense for your cult in the western world.
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>>6247807
the only degeneracy that exists is letting muslims live
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>>6247807
>degeneracy
Average Muslim Arab is far more ''degenerate'' than average Westerner.
Difference is that degenerates in West are rather open about it while in Muslim countries they keep it under the mattress.
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>>6244123
>>6247501
Pakistan is full of transgender Hijras and drugs. Hashish and marijuana can be found all over Muslim countries.
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I bet you're real fun at parties. Pic related is the effect of Islam on civilization
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>>6244712
Encouraging drinking camels urine is good? Water in any quantity cannot spread disease? Pork is unclean though ;)
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>>6245970
You might be the worst tripfag I've ever seen. A southern apologist and a fundamentalist Muslim. Almost certainly LARP, although truth is sometimes stranger than fiction. Slavery is perfectly fine for both aspects of this and you seem quite okay with it. How would your jihadi brothers feel if they knew you were here? A site full of images of people and especially women you are not married to nude? You're not worth even a spit in your general direction.
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>>6246806
Moral turpitude? Says the guy advocating slavery and polygamy. Yours is much better than individualists ;)
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>>6244834
it is for the man to speak or not speak on what goes on in his bedroom. afaik Muhammad did say that the marriage was consummated when Aisha was 9. However, Aisha was the daugher of Abu Bakr, a long-time companion to Muhammad and powerful political figure. Abu Bakr was the first caliph after Muhammad died. This indicates that the marriage might have had a diplomatic dimension. Further a marriage must be consummated within a prescribed time, or it is considered void. And further yet: Muhammad married 13 times, and only one of his wives was what we would call underage (Aisha). If he had a proclivity for fucking children, there should have been more children among his wives.

So: the marriage to Aisha was almost certainly political, since Muhammad did not generally marry children, and since her father was Abu Bakr; and the fact that the consummation is confirmed is not the same as the consummation actually happening: this is a private matter, but announcing it might have been politically important.

Ultimately: I don't know, but there is a credible alternative.
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>>6243923
Repost from another thread on jizya

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Sirhindi

The Naqshbandī sufi Ahmad Sirhindi said this:

>Kufr and Islam are opposed to each other. The progress of one is possible only at the expense of the other and co-existences between these two contradictory faiths in unthinkable.
>The honor of Islam lies in insulting kufr and kafirs. One who respects kafirs, dishonors the Muslims. To respect them does not merely mean honouring them and assigning them a seat of honor in any assembly, but it also implies keeping company with them or showing considerations to them. They should be kept at an arm's length like dogs. ... If some worldly business cannot be performed without them, in that case only a minimum of contact should be established with them but without taking them into confidence. The highest Islamic sentiment asserts that it is better to forego that worldly business and that no relationship should be established with the kafirs.
>The real purpose in levying jizya on them is to humiliate them to such an extent that, on account of fear of jizya, they may not be able to dress well and to live in grandeur. They should constantly remain terrified and trembling. It is intended to hold them under contempt and to uphold the honor and might of Islam.
>Whenever a Jew is killed, it is for the benefit of Islam
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>>6247771
>>6247790
Sorry for doubting you, brother, but as you probably know, a lot of fabricated quotes and ascriptions get tossed around the internet about Islam and Judaism.

I will read the relevant sections of the Traveler to see the context, but it sounds like Shafi is cancer despite some illustrious adherents in its history

>>6247799
I don't oppose the rights and freedoms they had in the late 18th Century. In fact I admire libertarians such as Rothbard and especially Hoppe, despite disagreeing on some things. I don't support Sharia being applied to non Muslims even though I am still very conservative even then

>>6247813
Which is ironic, the let's obsession with inclusiveness and tolerance causes them to support an antithetical element.

>>6248005
I don't know what you mean by fundamentalist, but yes, I am a Southern apologist. They were noble and I would have fought and died for their cause if circumstances permitted

I only go on 4channel
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>>6248040
I do not "advocate" for them, but even the New Testament explicitly condones slavery. I think freeing slaves is morally superior to keeping them, and that enslavement of a free man or woman is generally evil.
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>>6244084
Oman. Turkey. Malaysia.
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>>6248223
Oman is an Ibadi country. Turkey and Malaysia are failures. Malaysia is a corrupt country and has a large non-Muslim country who provide a major part of it's economic growth and Malaysia has a religious apartheid system with non-Muslims. Muslims have economic and political privileges in Malaysia and still lag behind non-Muslims despite the advantages they are given. Turkey is a corrupt shithole with an ongoing Kurdish insurgency and Turkey provides sanctuary to Al-Qaeda terrorists waging war against Syria. Turkey only became marginally more advance politically when Ataturk modernized the country and abolished the Ottoman caliphate and shariah.
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It's okay to abuse non-Muslim religions according to these hadith. Abu Bakr tells a pagan to suck the clitoris of the goddess Allat. sunnah.com refused to translate it in the English version but you can read it in Arabic.

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/54/19

امْصُصْ بَظْرَ اللاَّتِ

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/86/53

This hadith says cursing people is good.

https://sunnah.com/muslim/45/112

> Allah's Messenger, the good would reach everyone but it would not reach these two. He said: Why so? I said: Because you have invoked curse and hurled malediction upon both of them. He said: Don't you know that I have made condition with my Lord saying thus: O Allah, I am a human being and that for a Muslim upon whom I invoke curse or hurl malediction make it a source of purity and reward.

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/86/53

>When Ma'iz bin Malik came to the Prophet (in order to confess), the Prophet (ﷺ) said to him, "Probably you have only kissed (the lady), or winked, or looked at her?" He said, "No, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)!" The Prophet said, using no euphemism, "Did you have sexual intercourse with her?" The narrator added: At that, (i.e. after his confession) the Prophet (ﷺ) ordered that he be stoned (to death).
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https://sunnah.com/bukhari/60/77

>Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "(The Prophet) Moses was a shy person and used to cover his body completely because of his extensive shyness. One of the children of Israel hurt him by saying, 'He covers his body in this way only because of some defect in his skin, either leprosy or scrotal hernia, or he has some other defect.' Allah wished to clear Moses of what they said about him, so one day while Moses was in seclusion, he took off his clothes and put them on a stone and started taking a bath. When he had finished the bath, he moved towards his clothes so as to take them, but the stone took his clothes and fled; Moses picked up his stick and ran after the stone saying, 'O stone! Give me my garment!' Till he reached a group of Bani Israel who saw him naked then, and found him the best of what Allah had created, and Allah cleared him of what they had accused him of. The stone stopped there and Moses took and put his garment on and started hitting the stone with his stick. By Allah, the stone still has some traces of the hitting, three, four or five marks. This was what Allah refers to in His Saying:-- "O you who believe! Be you not like those Who annoyed Moses, But Allah proved his innocence of that which they alleged, And he was honorable In Allah's Sight." (33.69)
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>>6248231
Muslims and even Christians in the Middle East would be much better off if the Ottoman Empire endured. WWI also destroyed the Romanovs, the Hapsburgs, the Hohenzollerns. All for the worse. What a tragic war
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>>6248231
>and has a large non-Muslim country
and has a large non-Muslim minority. The native Iban and Orang Asli in Malaysia are non-Muslims and are not given the privileges that Muslims have. An Indian Muslim can get classified as a Malay bumiputera and have economic and legal privileges while non-Muslim native Iban and Orang Asli are second class citizens in Malaysia.
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>>6248249
This is no worse than most Christian states until after WWI.
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>>6243923

Scientific errors in the Quran and Hadith.

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Qur%27anic_scientific_errors

https://answering-islam.org/Authors/Newton/grammar.html

We Live on a Stationary, Flat Earth Inside a Solid Firmament – According to the Quran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDSMK34QNfI

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Conquest_of_Space#Rebuttal

https://www.namb.net/apologetics-blog/muhammad-on-astronomy/

FLAT EARTH: Muslim preacher: The Earth does not revolve around itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmetQD1q4bY
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why
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>>6244106
>No, most likely not. He might well have married her at that age, but Islam teaches against sex before puberty
No it doesn't. I'm getting tired of this lie
>https://islamqa.info/en/answers/22442/on-acting-and-the-ruling-on-marrying-young-girls
>Marrying a young girl before she reaches the age of adolescence is permitted in sharee’ah; indeed it was narrated that there was scholarly consensus on this point.
> Al-Nawawi said: With regard to the wedding-party of a young married girl at the time of consummating the marriage, if the husband and the guardian of the girl agree upon something that will not cause harm to the young girl, then that may be done. If they disagree, then Ahmad and Abu ‘Ubayd say that one a girl reaches the age of nine then the marriage may be consummated even without her consent, but that does not apply in the case of who is younger. Maalik, al-Shaafa’i and Abu Haneefah said: the marriage may be consummated when the girl is able for intercourse, which varies from one girl to another, so no age limit can be set. This is the correct view.
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>>6243923
Follow the Quran only, If you read it,you will see it as a true guide. Not this made up Hadith
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>>6245970
>Mainstream Islam does not support, let alone require, female circumcision
Lol
>FGC, however, is not merely a customary practice incorrectly understood as having religious authority despite its lack of sanction in authoritative scholarly sources. Rather, female circumcision of some type is either recommended or required by the dominant classical views of all Sunni Schools of Islamic jurisprudence, and seems to have been generally approved by Shi‘i jurists as well. (Kecia Ali, Sexial Ethics & Islam, p. 102)
>On the basis of these hadiths, the Islamic jurists constructed a variety of opinions
which, although differing in nuance, were overwhelmingly favorable to the practice
of female excision. (Jonathan Berkey, "Circumcision Circumscribed", p. 25)
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>>6248239
Mose is a Mesopotamian hero-god of the morning star or the moon which is why he went up the mountain, fought angels and came down again horned/shining,
This is an obvious astrological allegory about the phases of the moon.
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>>6244053
No, he married her at 9 then fucked her when she had her first period at 12
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>>6249620
Muhammad married aisha at 6 and had sex with her at 9. See the proof at >>6244834
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>>6244751
the word you’re looking for is “arbitrary” but yes I agree
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>>6250343
The point is that Allah looks for any "excuse" to get people into to heaven.
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>>6244084
>When Europeans invade weaker countries for all their existence
No problems
>When muslims invade 2 superpowers and win
Bad

You guys wouldn't say shit if Muslims expanded only eastwards. It's because your precious rome was taken.
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>>6252320
Difference is that its all Muslims have ever been. Started out a war cult, and still keeps going on.
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>>6243923
Nah, all you need to read is the Koran itself to see how fucked up the religion is at it's core.
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>>6252320
The Europeans who started invading other countries were the ones who were victims of Islamist imperialism, Spain and Portugal. The reason Portugal even started going around Africa to Asia is because the Ottomans cut off the spice trade between Asia and Europe and raised prices. The Portuguese and Spanish learned from the cruelty and experience of Islamist imperialism and after driving them out they imitated them.
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>>6252477
>Persians expand
Based
>Greeks take over
Based
>Rome takes over
Based
>Arabs take over
Nooooo stop it


You can't blame the Muslims for doing what others did before them and did after them
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>>6252652
Achaemenid Persians, Greeks and Romans did not conquer in the name of religion, did not try to change the religions of native peoples and force their religion on them. Persian and Greek did not replace the native Aramaic language or Coptic language.
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>>6244053
Muhammad was a milf and loli connoisseur. Patrician tastes
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>>6247771
spontaneously this seems to run counter to the continuous command in the Quran to always use proper scales and measures in commerce. Principally it is far worse to gain something than to not gain it, if the only way to gain it is a dishonest one. God will care for his own, there is no need for such greed.
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brothers and sisters, I must ask you something

industrialism became necessary to solve overpopulation. that's the official story anyways: the old way of organising labor wasn't producing enough, but in the new manner of organisation there was no real way to distribute resources (before you'd work a plot of land and have a right to some of the produce: if you're no longer needed in agriculture because it has been effectivised- where do you get food?) And so humanity can continue to grow, and wage-labor and innovation become the norm.

Why am I telling you this? Because the religious law was written in a pre-industrial world. The one Big difference between orthodox Islam and the modern world is the treatment of women. Personally I believe that the old laws regulating the lives of men and women were ideal for a pre-industrial world, but that perhaps they are not so now, for several reasons. In short: it becomes reasonable to enter women into the workforce, and once you do that everything about the old order is shattered.

One of two things is true about the world as it is now: either we are close to the Day, or God means for us to continue living in this new state. Either it is possible for humanity to be industrialized without necessarily perishing in the process, or it is not. Defending human life is a solemn duty, so we have to live as though we are expected to live on. And I personally strongly doubt that the religious law is ideal in the modern world. I do believe that Muhammad was the last prophet of the world. However, I do believe we are now waiting for a prophet. Because the world is not the world, the world is new.

What are your opinioins on these things? inb4 "kufar": don't think I'm not taking all of this very seriously.
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>>6252891
Nizari Ismailis are Muslims who are in tune with the modern world. Sunni theology is unchangeable and they will never adapt. Sunnis have to literally ignore their religion or scholars have to write fatawa literally twisting the logic of their sect around to justify participating in usury based economies and having women's rights.
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>>6252660
So the Muslim were effective? Meep moving the goalposts.

>>6252891
Religious law is eternal friend. The prophet your waiting for is Jesus. Besides nothing in religious law stops industrialisation. Pre or post industrialisation, humans are the same.

>>6252922
Being a nizari is like being an atheist but wanting to larp
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>>6253054
>Pre or post industrialisation, humans are the same.
it changes everything about how we live. in an industrialised society you move to wherever there is work. Your parents do not. This means that the big families of old die out.

In the situation we're in, where we need to solve very difficult scientific problems if we're to have a chance, and where technical solutions must get more and more sophisticated: children need to be schooled, in the hopes that the brightest among them get a chance to help all humanity. We must get more knowledge if we're to have a chance, and school is meant to help that, and I think it does help it.

This means that if you're a housewife today you don't have access to your husband: he isn't in the fields, where you could go see him, but rather he's in an office where you can not. You can not see your parents or grandparents, or your siblings. You don't know your neighbors. And you can not spend your day with your children: they are at school. No wonder the stereotypical stay at home wife starts drinking at noon.

these are just some things.
maybe it is Jesus, yea.
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>>6243923
>muhammad once told a story

Yeah he totally didnt you know completely make up these “stories” the same way he completely make up every thing else he said and the quran itself.

Anyone can make up some story. Muhammad making up bullshit stories was how islam started in the first place.
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>>6244871
>the hadith is all of a sudden unreliable when it has information that makes us look bad.
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>>6253445
well, the hadith are classified according to their credibility in the litterature. somewhere on
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/63/120
it should say "rated: yadayada", but it doesn't as far as I can see. "sahih" or something like it would mean "true".
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>>6244834
>>6244871
>>6253536

The Hadith narrated by Aisha that Muhammad married Aisha at 6 and had sex with her at 9 is Sahih (authentic).
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>>6247763
So your country is one obsessed with freedom, and not one of the shithole muslim sandboxes where your beliefs are enforced?
Hmmmm...
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>>6243923
>don't be cruel to animals
>slits throats of live animals

Nice bait, mate.
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>>6254112
That is meant to kill them as quickly as possible, derp. The point is not to cause them to feel terror, that's also why other animals can't be around while it is being done
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>>6243923
i've done some shitty things throughout my life but i've always been kind to animals. is there chance of jannah for me
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>>6254198
>that's also why other animals can't be around while it is being done
morbid as it is, this is really sweet
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>>6243923
When Muhammad permanently forgot some Quran verses and could not recall them, he claimed Allah sent him another verse saying that he would remember every verse except the ones Allah deliberately made him forget.

Muhammad had to insert a verse into the Qur'an saying that Allah would will him to forget Qur'an verses as an excuse when his memory failed.

https://www.answering-islam.org/Green/forgot.htm

>By degrees shall we teach thee to declare (the message), so thou shalt not forget, except as God wills (Sura 87:6-7).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfkkFjHsKjg

There are Surahs (chapters) which were lost from the Quran. One was forgotten by a Muslim who was supposed to memorise it. A verse from another Surah was written down but eaten by a goat.

https://www.answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/Jam/chap4.html

> We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Bara'at. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: "If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust". ( Sahih Muslim, Vol. 2, p.501).

> We used to recite a surah similar to one of the Musabbihaat, and I no longer remember it, but this much I have indeed preserved: 'O you who truly believe, why do you preach that which you do not practise?' (and) 'that is inscribed on your necks as a witness and you will be examined about it on the Day of Resurrection'. (as-Suyuti, Al-Itqan fii Ulum al-Qur'an, p.526).

https://sunnah.com/urn/1262630

> “The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed1, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.”
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>>6243923
Did Muhammad lead war parties, raze caravans, fight in battles, conquer cities, have people mass executed and tortured? If yes, what would a religion that looked at such man as a role model look like?
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>>6243923
>hadiths are central to the faith
>they were compiled centuries after muhammed's death
what a fucking joke
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>>6245591
> strive upon earth [to cause] corruption

Literally means all non-muslims.
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>>6254198
>>6255889
Sikhs instantly behead animals to spare them suffering. Muslims slit the throats of animals and let them beed to death painfully as the blood drains from the wound.
>that's also why other animals can't be around while it is being done
This is a lie, sheep are mass butchered in public by Muslims on Eid al-Adha.
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>>6258751
Cutting the throat of animals actually results in less brain activity than with a pin like its done most western countries. Also he is right it is forbidden for the animal to see the knife before his throat is cut and they aren't allowed to see others being cut either.
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>>6245021
This looks fucking interesting, sauce?
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>>6258751
>let them beed to death painfully as the blood drains from the wound.
you black out in less than 10 seconds from a wound like that
the blood is emptied and can't contaminate the meat
it's easier than a full beheading. really the only risk of significant pain in either case is a failed cut.
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>>6244053
1) It was an arranged political marriage and the other ruler had no older unwed daughters.
2) She ended up his favorite wife and after he died she's the one that traveled around and consolidated his teachings into what became the Quran while everyone else was busy planning to kill eachother over who the prophet's successor was.
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>>6258957
>2) She ended up his favorite wife and after he died she's the one that traveled around and consolidated his teachings into what became the Quran while everyone else was busy planning to kill eachother over who the prophet's successor was.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Camel
>The Battle of the Camel, sometimes called the Battle of Jamal or the Battle of Bassorah, took place at Basra, Iraq on 7 November 656 (13 Jumada Al-Awwal 36 AH). The battle was fought between Ali ibn Abi Talib, who was the cousin and son-in-law of the deceased Prophet of Islam, Muhammad, considered the fourth Rashidun Caliph of the Sunnis and the first Imam of the Shias, and A'isha (the wife of Muhammad), Talhah and Zubayr who led the war against Ali claiming that they want to take revenge on the killers of the third caliph Uthman who was recently killed as a result of rebellion. Marking the second chapter of the First Fitna, the fateful battle ended with victory of Ali and defeat of Ayesha who later apologized for her wrongdoing and was pardoned by Ali.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_view_of_Aisha#Status_as_favorite_wife

>The Shi'a view of Aisha is generally unfavourable. This is primarily due to what they see as her contempt for the Ahl al-Bayt (the prophet Muhammad's family) and her actions in the First Fitna (civil war) of the time. Her participation in the Battle of Jamal is widely considered her most significant sign of such contempt. They also do not believe that she conducted herself in an appropriate manner in her role as Muhammad's wife. Several prominent Shia accounts even report that she, along with Hafsa, brought about Muhammad’s death by giving him poison.[1]

>Shias reject the idea that Aisha was Muhammad's favorite wife and believe that Muhammad favored none of his wives in compliance with the Qur'anic verse:
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>>6258968
>Shias reject the idea that Aisha was Muhammad's favorite wife and believe that Muhammad favored none of his wives in compliance with the Qur'anic verse
This really sounds like one of those things religious people do where they insist their favorite comic book prophet is physically incapable of acting in a manner contrary to his own teachings, but far be it from me to challenge Shia Islam on its dogma.
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>>6258936
You have proof of that?
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https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Main_Page
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>religious fundamentalism and theocracy are okay when brown people do it
This board has no principles at all.
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>>6244941
This.
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>>6247156
Population wise those groups are still small.
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>>6244941
Any proof?
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>>6243923
bad
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>>6261355

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfBsCWJIhWs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nujood_Ali

>Nujood Ali (نجود علي) (born 1998) is a central figure in Yemen's movement against forced marriage and child marriage. At the age of ten she obtained a divorce, breaking with the tribal tradition.[2][3] In November 2008, the U.S. women's magazine Glamour designated Nujood Ali and her lawyer Shada Nasser as Women of the Year.[3][4] Ali's courage was praised by prominent women including Hillary Clinton and Condoleezza Rice.[5]

>Nujood Ali was nine when her parents arranged a marriage to Faez Ali Thamer, a man in his thirties.[7] Regularly beaten by her in-laws and raped by her husband, Ali escaped on April 2, 2008, two months after the wedding. On the advice of her father's second wife, she went directly to court to seek a divorce. After waiting for half a day, she was noticed by a judge, Mohammed al-għadha, who took it upon himself to give her temporary refuge, and had both her father and husband taken into custody.[8]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_19_xIYEmI

https://www.weeklystandard.com/kaylee-mcghee/meet-the-yemeni-child-brides-of-dearborn-michigan

https://yemen.unfpa.org/en/video/testimony-harms-child-marriage-yemen

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/22/middleeast/yemen-child-marriage-asequals/index.html

https://www.parhlo.com/137505-2/death-of-yemeni-child-bride

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nada_al-Ahdal
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>>6261355

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age#Asia

>Yemen 15 None HRW notes no legal minimum age for marriage under Sharia law, and UNSD notes that child marriage is permitted where "such marriage will entail some clear benefit."[176]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age#Islam

>Hanafi 12 9

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage#Western_Asia

>Over half of Yemeni girls are married before 18, some by the age eight.[153][154] Yemen government's Sharia Legislative Committee has blocked attempts to raise marriage age to either 15 or 18, on grounds that any law setting minimum age for girls is un-Islamic. Yemeni Muslim activists argue that some girls are ready for marriage at age 9.[155][156] According to HRW, in 1999 the minimum marriage age 15 for women was abolished; the onset of puberty, interpreted by conservatives to be at age nine, was set as a requirement for consummation of marriage.[157] In practice "Yemeni law allows girls of any age to wed, but it forbids sex with them until the indefinite time they're 'suitable for sexual intercourse'."[153] As with Africa, the marriage incidence data for Yemen in HRW report is from surveys between 1990 and 2000. Current data is difficult to obtain, given regional violence.
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>>6247297

> implying European kingdoms didn’t put Jews in ghettos, make them wear distinctive clothing, and persecute those deemed heretics

Nigga please
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>>6245102
>It will not be without interest to recall here, unreliable though they are, the lengthy stories concerning St. Joseph's marriage contained in the apocryphal writings. When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, "the Lord's brother"). A year after his wife's death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age.
>It will not be without interest to recall here, unreliable though they are, the lengthy stories concerning St. Joseph's marriage contained in the apocryphal writings.
>the lengthy stories concerning St. Joseph's marriage contained in the apocryphal writings
>contained in the apocryphal writings
>apocryphal writings
Muhammad, you suck at lying.
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>>6247867

> implying Muhammad didn’t suggest duties for the mukhannathun (effeminate men) or banish them instead of kill them
> implying they didn’t form a recognized part of society at the time of the caliphates

An effeminate man (mukhannath) who had dyed his hands and feet with henna was brought to the Prophet. He asked: What is the matter with this man? He was told: "Messenger of Allah! He imitates the look of women." So he issued an order regarding him and he was banished to an-Naqi'. The people said: Messenger of Allah! Should we not kill him? He said: I have been prohibited from killing people who pray.
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>>6243923
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Mauritania

>Slavery has been called "deeply rooted" in the structure of the northwestern African country of Mauritania, and "closely tied" to the ethnic composition of the country.[1]

>In 1905, an end of slavery in Mauritania was declared by the colonial French administration but the vastness of Mauritania mostly gave the law very few successes.[2] In 1981, Mauritania became the last country in the world to abolish slavery,[3] when a presidential decree abolished the practice. However, no criminal laws were passed to enforce the ban.[3][4][5] In 2007, "under international pressure", the government passed a law allowing slaveholders to be prosecuted.[3] Despite this, the number of slaves in the country has been estimated by Global Slavery Index to be 43,000 (or 1.058% of the population) in 2015[6] and by the organization SOS Slavery to be up to 600,000 (or 17% of the population).[7] Sociologist Kevin Bales and Global Slavery Index estimate that Mauritania has the highest proportion of people in slavery of any country in the world.[8][9] While other countries in the region have people in "slavelike conditions", the situation in Mauritania is "unusually severe", according to African history professor Bruce Hall.[3]

>The position of the government of Mauritania is that slavery is "totally finished ... all people are free",[10] and that talk of it "suggests manipulation by the West, an act of enmity toward Islam, or influence from the worldwide Jewish conspiracy."[3] However, Amnesty International estimates that 43,000 people still live in slavery in Mauritania.

>"The country has jailed more anti-slavery activists than slave owners, rights groups say." [1]
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>>6264417
Neither Christianity nor Islam prohibits slavery, although most states, both Christian and Muslim, have banned it for other reasons
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>>6261355
https://youtu.be/iEt0095__Ys
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>>6261355
bacha baazi
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>>6243923
Sounds gay.
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>>6260403
based
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>>6244053
Yes
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I learned all I need to know about Islam on 9/11
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>>6252736
Muhammad got all of Khadija's money when she died and started marrying his other wives after that. He didn't dare do it when she was alive.
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>>6267329
Many of his wives were old or widows and he most likely married them out or compassion. He wasn't a sex fiend, apart from one child with a slave, all of his kids were borne by his first wife
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>>6243923
You're no authority on Islam, most of your religion can't agree on some of the most basic principles, and its lead to conflict and war within the factions of Islam for years. So dont give me this bullshit about muh religion of peace when I can go into debate chatrooms every night and talk to a bunch of other "educated westernized" muslims who defend beheadings and bigotry and would consider you an apostate
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>>6268425
Beheadings (down by rule of law, not vigilantes) and bigotry are absolutely halal.

Most Muslims agree on the fundamental principles. It's application that there is dissent about. Muslims who call those who accept the five pillars "apostates" are way out of line, as Islam itself requires such accusations to be backed substantially or else it is a serious sin
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>>6266484
I learned all I need to know about Christianity from the Thirty Years War
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>>6268476
I learned all I need to know about Islam from the actions and words of Muhammad and every single faqih after him.
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>>6268503
>not Obama
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>>6268751
>Those who curse prophet Muhammad PBUH will burn in hell forever while the believers look down on them from paradise.
Wrong, you see hell going through judgement but after you have been sorted to paradise, it is not something you can even hear.
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>>6268783

The kuffar experience torment of the grave in the akhira. There is no disputing this and we will see them dropping into hell on the day when all are judged.
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>>6268807
But you don't watch them being tormented while you're in paradise. You only see what it looks like during your judgement
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>>6268870
Before the day comes, the shuhada will be in the green birds of paradise while the kuffar are being tormented in the akhira.
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>>6268882
Though I don't think you see their fate during this period.
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>>6268751
>White women drool over us Iraqi
Ahaha
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>>6244691
What about the UAE?
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>>6244084
>Btw, there’s no such thing as Palestine.
Based
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>>6271550
No, not really, neither is apologetics anything bad
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>>6244883
>At least Lutheranism is basically obsessed in telling you how faith is the only thing that can save you, and every deed will be forgiven if you just believe in God?
Prots teach that faith alone is enough for salvation (sola fide) but for anyone who isn't converting on their deathbed you're also expected to bear fruit expressing an exemplary Christian life. Catholics love to focus in on the first part about faith alone and then bring up a bunch of retarded Americans as examples of how all prods are retarded when in fact anyone teaching anything akin to "once saved always saved" or "just beleev and do what you want" are heretics leading others astray. People saying they're Christian and not acting like it isn't a phenomenon exclusive to Protestants, it's also found in Catholics and would you look at that, people of ALL religions.
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>>6248062
Certainly the most reasonable post I've read today.
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Funny how a lot of these alt right fags on his are saying how Muslims are all pedophiles, while there is a thread on pol right now, where they are defending fucking a toddler.
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>>6273011
We are not alt right and how do you know the thread on pol isn't full of Muslims? Plenty of Muslims post on /pol/.
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>>6273011
>someone points out that your prophet had sex with a little girl so it must be muh /pol/ or muh alt right
Mohamad was a pedophile warlord according to muslim sources in the koran and the hadith.
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>>6273137
So the fuck what? Catholicism was built by pedophiles. Rome and Greece were ruled by sick fucks. Fuck some saints and prophets themselves were pedophiles. Joseph was a pedophile. Abraham was a pedophile. Moses himself ordered his men to rape young girls. You guys are filthy hypocrites.
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>>6273137
Yeah not involved in this thread until now but Christcucks accusing anyone else of pedophilia is throwing rocks in a glass house.
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>>6274583
First of all ad hominem, second none of those people are held as the examples for Catholic people to imitate. Muhammad is held as the perfect human in Islam to be imitated to the last atom.
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>>6274583
>So the fuck what?
Muslims indulge in pedophilia.
>Fuck some saints and prophets themselves were pedophiles
No, only mohamad was the pedo prophet.
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>>6274591
Narrated `Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death). (Sahih al-Bukhari 5134)
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>>6274583
What do you mean so what? Nobody is saying that those people are the ideal moral example for all times and places. Anyone who fucks a child has done something wrong and is not an excellent example, especially not an excellent example for all time.

Where's the hypocrisy you retard? Get muslims to agree en masse that muhammad is not a great moral role model then Islam will be on the same footing with those other things you mentioned.
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>>6244691
It's run on migrant slave labor.
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>>6243923
Soon we'll drag your European muslim whores out of their houses, to rape them in your own mosques. Fuck your death cult you fucking sandnigger.
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>>6275398
>doesn't reproduce
>promotes abortion, sterility, euthanasia
>values individual above family, society, civilization and God

I would say secular humanism is the real "death cult" here
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>>6252320
>Rome taken by Muslims
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>>6275642
He meant Eastern Roman empire.
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>>6243923
bad



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