Why do they keep using Oda Nobunaga in anime that much
>>194930548because he is the Abraham Lincoln of japan
>>194930548he's their henry VIII
>>194930548He was the main unifying force who created the nation of japan from a chaos of warring stateshe had the vision and the drive and the brutality required, but he was also a very intelligent man and open to new ideas. He was betrayed by lesser men who went on to reap the spoils of Nobunaga’s superhuman efforts.then they made a PR campaign demonizing him in order to legitimize their own rule and cover for their own crimes of betrayal.he also had a big nose and a mustache and looked like a badass while Tokugawa Ieyasu and Toyotomi Hideyoshi just looked like a couple of fat chinks
>>194930548Why do they keep using>Iulius Caesa>Octavian Augustus >Constantine the Great>Karl the Great>Otto I>Friedrich Barbarossa>Karl V>Friedrich the Great>Bismarckand so on and so onHe´s literally one of their greatest historic figures, you fucking idiot.
Tokugawa can go fuck himself
>why do japanese keep using japanese historic figures in their japanese fiction?fucking Americans, I swear
>>194930904Nobunaga’s great great great great great great great (abridged) great grandson was a famous figure skater in japan a few years ago.He actually looks kind of like the old paintings of Nobunaga, unfortunately he acts like a total fag and was on tv crying like a little bitch when he won some figure skating tournament.I think he retired from skating to focus on his true calling of being a massive embarrassment to his bloodline
Nobunari Oda in case anybody cares, don’t look at his Wikipedia portrait pic, look at the action shots of him skating and you can see the family resemblance
>>194930548Literally a chad responsible for uniting Japan and kickstarting the drive to constantly innovate in all aspects. If it wasn't for him they'd probably end up getting cucked as hard by Europeans as the SEA region.
>>194930904>including Roman emperors as G*rman historyYou thought nobody would've noticed that, didn't you?
>>194930734Also he calls himself a -xxx-demon king-xxx-(666)_buddha_killer
>>194930548He's a broski.
>>194931521yo man> Additionally, Nobunaga was very interested in European culture which was still very new to Japan. He collected pieces of Western art as well as arms and armor, and he is considered to be among the first Japanese people in recorded history to wear European clothes. He also became the patron of the Jesuit missionaries in Japan and supported the establishment of the first Christian church in Kyoto in 1576, although he never converted to Christianity.Nobunaga was chill af unlike Tokugawa Ieyasu who literally went around executing Christians Nobunaga would be excited about the idea of shitposting with us while Tokugawa Ieyasu would send somebody to cut our heads off
shit man one of his sons was named Peter
>>194930548>that time nobunaga got a nigga as his most loyal and strongest confident
>>194930548because he is the Oliver Cromwell of japan
>>194932488> So bullshit then
>>194932488>>194932880He definitely supported Christians. He thought Christianity would make for more obedient sheep.
>>194930548>draw oda>make him look like a berber pirate
>>194933120He looked much more formal in a flashback image from Mitsuhide. However, you have to remember that this Nobunaga was isekaied while suddendly fleeing for his life from a burning castle.
How many Oda Nobunagas do we have in anime?
>>194930548Who cares about that oda fool. There is severe lack of Uesugi Kenshin in anime
>>194933120Before he was transported to the new world, he wore better clothes, had his hair up in a traditional Japanese pony tail, and likely was cleaner shaven. The current Nobunaga looks like a hobo in comparison.
>>194933277Remember winter of 2014 when we had Nobunagun and Nobunaga the Fool?Good times.
>>194933496so you're saying anyone wearing a robe and a regular pony tail is a jap, weebtard?
>Drifters anime will never be finishedIt hurts.
>>194933575At least we got a chapter recently.
>>194930548Because he was based. Question about Honnoji /a/nons, what do you think really happened?
>>194933575Is the Manga done?
>>194933688Not even close. The Ends are still alive and the main battle hasn't even started yet.Yoshitsune might be dying soon. Taking on Yoichi, Nobunaga, and Hannibal all at the same time. The centaur cavalry might pose a problem to the weary humanoid soldiers though.
>>194931236I mean Nobunaga was a massive embarrassment to his bloodline, he was literally called the Fool of Owari up until he started whipping everyone’s ass. He was probably of a similar disposition.
>>194932880>thinks citation needed invalidates the entire cited materialbrainlets should be sterilized along with their parents and siblings
>>194931236>crying from joy you sound like a pussy who never achieved anything in your life
>>194934031Shut the fuck up
>>194930548Because that dude was the coolest. He's was like a real life sunrise show protagonist.
>>194930904Don't forger Hitler
>>194934167Hitler was not a great leader
>>194934167Hitler was a good politician but not a great general or leader in comparison to those listed
>>194934055No he’s right, you definitely sound like a useless lump who’s biggest win was a really long fap
>>194934242Stop fucking replying to me
>>194934197>>194934238Oh yeah, but the post just said historical figures.
>>194930548Because he's cool.
>>194934265Or what? You gonna cry?
>>194934265What are you gonna do about it, fag?
>>194934360>>194934376Leave me alone already you fucking morans
>>194934426Keep fucking crying bitch
>>194933089I recently got interested in this era in japan. Do you have any historical sources? This seems interesting to me.
>>194931236Sounds like a fag.
>>194934529Just look up Nobunaga's conflict with Buddhist sects. He in part supported Christianity to undermine and spite the Buddhists.In was to a Buddhist he was arguing with that he dubbed himself "Demon King of the Sixth Heaven". Basically, if the Buddhists served heaven, then he was the ruler of Hell.
>>194934709well you can't blame him. the buddhists were crazy af
>>194935000Trips confirmed. Between the Catholics and Buddhists its hard to pick who had crazier zealots.
>>194935140Hirano knows this, which is why the Catholics in Hellsing were so insane and fanatical.I'm hoping that Jeanne in Drifters will eventually overcome her revenge madness only for it to be revealed that she's just as much if not more insane as a devout Catholic.
>>194935252Some of Nobunaga's devious tactics from Drifters were pulled from some of the atrocities that the Buddhists commited against Nobunaga in real life.
>>194935252they had literal warrior monk temples on mountains where the monks would just run down the mountain and kill you Nobunaga apparently had a lot of trouble with them and got fed up with their constant bullshit
>>194935252they had a bunch of guys that trained every day in their skill as a way of meditation, so you got monstrously skilled warriors, who would never swear fealty to any lord, but were motivated by power nonetheless.They were also synonymous with peasant uprisings. Violent, brutally skilled and out for themselves. they had to go is all.
>>194932488Sounds like Nobunaga was a (((western))) plant corrupting based Nipon and Tokugawa was the based student that knifed the commie wanting to destroy their country.
Even Rance respect Oda
>>194936499tokugawa had no hand in killing nobunaga, he didnt have the balls for it
>>194936534Rance respects no man. He tolerates Oda.
>>194936499there was no Nippon, if not for Nobunaga the Japanese islands would have gotten eaten up by colonialists like a bunch of podunk Filipino fiefdoms I understand what you’re saying because I too am a big nazi guy but the situation in this case is a little different
>>194936725When Oda fainted Rance reaction was not something common.
>>194936910It's been years since I played sengoku, you could be correct.
Wasn't he also the inventor of offensive volley fire formation?
Anyone here read Komachi?
>>194931236>nooo you're not allowed to feel emotion when you achieve your goals stop it!!!
>>194930589Sakamoto Ryoma is basically called that nowadays funnily enough
>>194933089He didn't, he liked Western tech and had an interest in the exotic in general. He was just Machiavellian, he'll use Christians until it doesn't suit him anymore and then toss them aside when he comes across something that benefits his aims more.
Who Nobunagun here?
>>194934709He burned that mountain where the Buddhists were because they were in his way, not because he was anti-Buddhist in general. The Honganji and those affiliated with them were anti-Oda and basically a military force in themselves.The demon king thing was literally him trolling Takeda Shingen.
>>194937827Forgotten masterpiece. I'd post god-tier ost too but most of it was blocked on jewtube.
>>194936499Tokugawa's grandson was the one who closed off the country, Tokugae himself was open to working with foreigners to an extent
>>194937827What a show.
>>194937827RESPECT FOR THE DEAD MEN
>>194930548Second season when?
>>194932488>Tokugawa Ieyasu who literally went around executing ChristiansI fail to see the issue with that
>>194932488>>194936499Ieyasu was a fat fuckinb4 t. Mitsunari
>>194932488That was Hideyoshi, not Ieyasu. Ieyasu's the one basically famous for doing jackshit the entire time, relatively speaking. Hideyoshi's a really interesting case because more than anyone else he benefitted under Nobunaga's policy of favoring talent above all else and was generally agreed to be his best general. Initially Hideyoshi continued Nobunaga's style of rule in most aspects, but after he certain point he goes batshit insane and does a total 180 on his outlook and starts doing all the shit he's more known for nowadays.
>>194937635Why is every Bakumatsu era anime/manga just bottom-of-the-barrel shoujoshit? Not saying it has to be a battle shounen or whatever, it doesn't really suit that either, but it's a legitimately really interesting and distinct chunk of their history
>>194937827And she actually won the jackbowl in the end what a fucking ride.
>>194930589He is the Pinochet of anime
>>194932775Yasuke anime when?
>>194930548Why don't we have a founding father animated series?
>>194941838>Drifters starts expanding its scope of isekai'd historical figures>Zog king of the bloodfued>Antoine de Tounens>Davit Bek
>>194937827New season ever?
>>194930548He was pretty awesome. He was both a kabukimono, a warlord and the defacto ruler, doesn't get better than that.
>>194930548Because they cant directly glorify a founding historical figure like tojo without getting serious backlash.
>>194930904Who's "they"? Julius and Augustus are the only two on that list that most people will be familiar with
>>194941838"Strong Men of History" battle royale series
Season 2 when?
>>194930548It's japanese Stalin.Stalin was cool.
Everything about him is prime chuunibait.
The Nobunaga from Hyouge Mono is the absolute best. Episode 10 is a masterpiece.
>>194943972When that fucking nigger get off his lazy ass and start drawing again. 4 chapters a year is a fucking joke
Season 4 when?
>>194940121Hideyoshi is endlessly entertaining >Lord Nobunaga united Japan, I will unite the world!>first I will conquer China>on the way to China let’s kill these guys in the funny hats>ok that took longer than expected but we finally got to China >what the fuck they said it was big but how can it be this fucking big>fuck this man I’m going home>fuck this sucks let’s kill some more of those guys in the funny hats on the way back to make ourselves feel better>ok I feel better now, start loading those ears on the boat so at least we don’t go back empty-handedthus was born 500 years of enmity between japan and korea
>>194943675>Tojo>thought it was a good idea to attack the USA directly on one of their strategically most important military bases because lol who would fight to keep some islands that let you project power over the entire Pacific Ocean?>ordered Yamamoto to draw up an attack plan despite Yamamoto’s objection that they could rule the pacific for 6 months after which they would get their shit pushed in from every direction >gave Roosevelt the casus belli that he wanted which would allow him to pursue his real goal of directly dicking around in Europe >proceeded to get the whole country corn-holed through his own incompetence and hubris>they’re still filling in the bomb craters to this day“Founding historical figure”
>>194947244it's sad he fell victim to one of the classic blunders
Its sucks the only material about the Sengoku Period in English is from Turnbull
>>194930548Japanese icon duh.
>>194930991>t. Amakusa Shiro
what the fuck was Akechi Mitsuhide’s fucking problem anyway
>>194951050He didn’t sleep so good
>>194930904>Caesar and 8 literally who'sAm I supposed to know these people?
>>194951136technically there are 2 Caesars there
>>194951221actually 3 if you consider Constantine a “Caesar” because that was technically one of his titles
>>194930548Too much feudal shitWhat about 20th century Japan?Why do they barely use japanese World war II heros in anime?
>>194930548Use your brain.
>>194951444They have 2. Kanno Naoshi and Yamaguchi Tamon.
>>194940482pinochet was a pussy