>All them filler arcs between the Daniel and Jesus arcs
>half of the second volume and the entirety of volumes 3 and 4 focus on establishing the rules of the world
>Moses is a massive Gary Stu until the author decides to kill him off
>Job is just MUH SUFFERING and then because of the power of LOYALTY and LOVE, gets a good end.
>Ruth is the biggest Mary Sue
>Hurr durr, "I'm gonna follow you step-okaa-san where you go."
>The only good arcs of the first half of the manga are the Noah arcs with its incest rape, the David arc and the Daniel arc with its crazy magic and heavy foreshadowing.
>Jesus is the biggest Gary Stu in all of manga
>Paul's character development is extremely poorly done
>and dat "to be continued ending" with all the crazy power level bullshit and 4 horsemen who are just too HAX.
Why is this manga so popular, /a/?
I used the wrong pic.
Let's not forget that the prequel had the most overpowered Big Bad ever. Killing off almost the entire world? I know its fiction but come one.
If it was a harem, it would be way better. At least Islam guarantees 72 virgins, so I'd choose that personally.
>Mary Magdalene never won the Jesusb owl.
>fans get mad
>LOL, just kidding, he comes back from the dead.
Talking about a stupid retcon
but best girl peter won
>Peter is hyped up as the hero for the rest of the story
>gets sidelined by this new character Paul
ALL THAT SHIT WRITING.
>tried to read that as a manga
>brain just exploded
I really hate the whole Revelations final arc. It's really a shitty way to end the story. Much circlejerking and fan pandering...
Honestly, the "unofficial" book of Judas is a better read.
The Solomon Arc was pretty good though.
Is God the secret villain?
Joshua is olev
yweh did nothing wrong
Is it any better than the Book of Enoch?
(Most fans consider it a doujin, but some take it as cannon.)
Don't remember how it ended, but it was full of fallen angel shit and monster babies or something.
Who's the best archangel and why is it Raphael?
> John 21:25
25 Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.
this motherfucking writers and their sequel hooks. SEASON 2 WHEN
>4 horsemen who are just too HAX.
And based Jesus STILL wipes them out.
Who's your favorite gay stu?
>The only good arcs of the first half of the manga are the Noah arcs
>yfw you realize the Battle of Armageddon will never be aired on TV.
All that graphic violence and bloodshed. The Son of God knows how to end a series.
Blu-ray release when?
Do you even beloved disciple?
>bring up all this crazy evil shit
>Bu..bu...but don't worry fans, GOOD WINS IN THE END.
Should have used a pic of Carlos instead.
>muh Shulamite waifu
>muh delicious brown Ethiopian waifu
>muh meme-tastic proverbs
No, anon. The punmeister is the one who posts the carlos, not the pun-catcher.
Who got the keys to Heaven again? Oh right his best friend Peter!
>Peterfags in charge of Sola Scriptura
>originally write the messiah as the king of Jews who will come and reestablish the kingdom of Judea and make it conquer the world
>LOL NOPE! I didn't mean that in a literal sense
People like this retconned filled shit.
The rise of the Islamic Empire would be a much better manga to write about.
>actual Harem starting with Muhammad's first wife being an older Christmas Cake widow and even including Aisha his loli wife that ends up becoming important even after Muhammad dies
>Shota Ali, Muhammad's cousin. Later becomes important as the fourth Caliph and fights Aisha for his title.
>Battles against other Arab tribes and the Byzantines, Persians
Be honest OP, you are doing that on purpose right?
It's fine, I actually laughing at it.
Cain and Abel best of bros.
Judges was the best arc. It's a scientific fact.
Doing what on purpose?
Why is she so perfect?
Because she's a mother without having to be a desecrated unvirgin.
Trips confirmed for fact.
It's because she is pure no-slut.
Even give a virgin birth without sex!
Godly trips confirm Mary for immaculate.
>eternal virgin and untouched by men
>ultimate otaku fodder
>The holy trinity
>dat Godly post.
Anon confirmed for being taken up to heaven.
>Some north romans lord dislike eating while sleeeping with low table.
He died for our sins
>Old orthodox catholic chapter
>Virgin until death
>Waifu is Mother Mary until they dead.
>/a/ +70% Virgin
Wait, so anime and manga turn us into Catholic priest?
>Supposed to be son of god
>God why have you forsaken me?
Shit character deserved to die
Jesus arc is for nostalgiafags.
Nag Hammadi arc is where it's at.
Wait, isn't he also god?
i bet you draw OC's in deviantart too
Please watch Kamisama Kazoku.
Same thing happened, except the son of god fall in love with the Angel.
For a second there, I thought it was a black man wearing a girls body
>Son of God
I wish the author would make up his mind.
Asspull ,rips off of every other shonen as well.
>Samatarou Kamiyama is the son of a god and must live in the human world with his family to learn about them, in order to become a better god when the time comes to succeed his father.
Do you even Trinitarian?
It's not "deep", it's just the author being a massive hack. If he were God, why would he talk to God like he was another person?
>STILL no BDs
Can jesus kill servants?
Did you even realize, son of god is also a god?
Just like son of human is also a human.
We Christian mistaking that part.
what, you can't into holy trinity?
Think of it like Zangetsu, hollow Ichigo, and Ichigo
Hollow Ichigo is actually Ichigo's shinigami power, but exists simultaneously
Zangetsu is his quincy power, also simultaneous
Ichigo is his human spiritual power, also simultaneous
Each can be independent, know things the others don't, and use their powers in different ways
But the Ichigo that people see is the culmination of all three
Ezekiel was my favourite arc
>RMVB > MKV
Trully nostalgiafags heaven
He can kill any human on earth and is morally justified in doing so.
>was deemed as a savior
>literally saved no one
That's not how the = sign works.
At least use equivalence relation ~.
>David NTR story
Every Dense harem MC ever.
What? Can't handle NTR taste anon?
That NTR are the best, I like how MC Daud-kun making a plot to steal other people wife.
If Cain was my brother, things would be different around here.
I can take his role if you want
Why didn't God just send out specifically targetted lightning bolts to the evil people on Earth instead of making Noah build a boat and collect animals?
Why didn't Noah just use the Eagles to fly over the water instead of a boat?
>forgetting bros before hoes pack
>sacrificing his best fighter for some slut
David a shit
Because you wouldn't be alive to shitpost?
Why, you ask?
>Grand tale of truly epic scale, from the creation of the universe to its end
>The main character, God, gets a ton of characterization and is really likable
>Consistent themes of love, wisdom, honor and so on
>Heavy foreshadowing all throughout the Old Testament arc that finally comes to pass in the New Testament while surpassing everyone's expectations
>Great writing that blows out every LN and VN
>People say it's cliched, but it was the original work that every other anime just ripped off
Just don't treat the fanfiction as canon and you'll see what a masterpiece it is.
It's like Utena all over again.
Cain pls go, you are too old for 4chan
I just wish it stopped time skipping so much,my'know?
>Peter has a big escape from prison
>Literally never heard from again
>Ark of the Covenant is built up as the most holy object in all of creation
>Gets taken off to Babylon
>Literally never heard of again
So much wasted potential. Also:
>Governor is willing to acquit Paul of his crimes if he stands trial in Jerusalem
>Appeals to Caesar anyway
>THE CITY OF ST. PAUL
Lucifer did nothing wrong.
B-but that was best plot from Hentai anime could produce!
Did you forget Daud and Samuel are harem MC?
This is Harem MC plot writing done right!
>Consistent themes of love
>there are page on how to stone someone to death
Because every other person outside of Noah was evil or young enough to not be morally culpable and thus had nothing to fear from dying.
Because the eagles can't carry the elephants duh!
>Purging Sodom and Gomorah just because they like to fuck traps and shotas
God really do are worst character.
Would you kill someone you love, because of love?
Except you know challenging the creator whom he should have known was unbeatable.
>killing one of your best fighters so you can bang his wife because you saw her bathing naked on the roof.
That was one of the few moments that I agreed with God.
>just because of faggots
>Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
>wanting degeneracy to spread
God did nothing wrong
Rance did challenge 3 Supreme God and Ludo-rathowm
Yes, I know, he lose badly, but hey, not only Lucifer did this kind of thing.
Cain did nothing wrong.
>First half of the manga is literally lifted from the Hebrew Bible
>Second half of the manga is a rip off of the Quran
Pretty soon, I heard!
original translation made Sodom yuri
>Did nothing wrong
>literally butthurt because God made humans to be his waifu
Lucifer is like 3DPD who get butthurt when men talk about 2D women.
>bu..but she's a cartoon. How can you say that she's better than me. You're disgusting.
Only if you're George Lucas.
What happened with God anyway? In the beginning he was this constant presence, but later on he barerly appeared, and he miracles just got less and less impressive.
>Not wanting Yuri sadpanda where girl fondling each other
>Not wanting to see more sadpanda Shota and trap fucking.
back to fanfic.net with you.
>First half of the manga is literally lifted from the Hebrew Bible
Duh, it's the same series. Jews just don't consider the second half canon. It's like how DtB S2 doesn't exist.
>Second half of the manga is a rip off of the Quran
Nigger please, check the publication dates.
>rip off of the Quran
>ripping off a Chinese fanfiction that came out years later.
That's like saying that the Cell and Buu saga ripped off Naruto, or that EoE ripped off RahXephon.
If he appeared more, it would've made Jesus "Mary Sue" Christ look bad.
Lilith > Eve
>Delusional Johnfags being delusional
You had your chance satan
>rip off from Quran
>originals are now rip offs from fanfics
>It's like how DtB S2 doesn't exist.
Just like electric chinese batman without power is a shit writing. God decide to become a human is also a retarded plot.
Just be an OP God that didn't gave a fuck like usual please!
>muh SJW fanfiction
Animeonlyfag here. So which version is actually canon?
Except we rape little girls instead of little boys.
>Rip of quran
Your bait is so obvious.
Muhammad must get sued so bad by Jesus in the future.
>Always all up in everyone's business
>Immediately punishes anyone who fucks up
>Collective punishment for everyone
>Guy fucks up? Better stone his wife, kids, and animals too
>Better kill every firstborn son
>Better kill everyone on Earth except Noah and friends.
>Never directly says anything to anyone (as God, not Jesus)
>Willing to forgive everyone, everywhere, forever because of one man-god's sacrifice
>Doesn't show up to correct anyone when people start to get confused about what they're supposed to do to be good.
Did the author just decide to give two characters the same name, or did he just completely heel-face him?
It's Darker than black S2-tier writing >>115355381
>Okay, maybe I'll just settle with this race of Israel
>Damn man, if I can't get them to listen with this one race, the rest of the production line won't work
>Try to make it normalfag friendly.
Why did God make that apple again?
Because He want to see our reaction to how retarded Death Note is.
Monogatari 12 disciples by SHAFT when?
>Did the author just decide to give two characters the same name, or did he just completely heel-face him?
It's a collaborative work. Every writer made him less and less horrible throughout OT and it's revisions so that it would fit with NT.
Kind of like how haruhi gets less unlikable as books go by.
Why you all faggot not read the newest mango with a gary tsu MC, implemented the concept of harem and also loli?
So humanity could have a choice to disobey.
I enjoyed the ending.
Gotta have a plot don't you.
>Saul who was persecuting the Christians.
>Get shot by lightning
>Now Paul, faithful Christian
Meh, need faster character development
But they didn't even understand the consequence of that!
So we could get the chaos route
They made it an apple for one of the adaptations.
Read the source though, an actual fruit is never specified, and I doubt they got word of god confirmation on the type of fruit.
Judas did nothing wrong!
At least he didn't cut his hair.
No, you have women to do that...Damn philistines whore
People always bring this up but it's like they never read Psalms. OT God was always really loving and kind too, he just couldn't stand sin. It wasn't until Jesus came along that he could really forgive and forget the way he does in NT. And yeah, NT God does speak directly to people.
>They made it an apple for one of the adaptations.
Fuck you 4kids for naming it apple when it was clearly a riceball
Was the snake supposed to be Lucifer? And if it was, why did God punish snakes everywhere? Just because Lucifer tricked some stupid butch
It's a plot author made to make Jesus look like a savior.
Because he's the hero Israel and humanity deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.
It's the fans who can't make up their mind which it is.
> do you even test
First and only real woman.
Was so shit he had to discontinue production and seal the only copy available.
Then creates the new women's production line by using man as a base.
Eve > Lilith
All for the cost of 30 silver!
>don't eat that fruit or you'll die!
>dude eat the fruit, you'll be like God!
>Man eats it and dies (eventually)
>Because he's the hero Israel
>did nothing wrong
he did everything wrong by being the hero of israel in the first place
>Final villain teased at the end of the manga
>author takes a hiatus
You gotta be fucking kidding me
Every fucking time.
God's like the biggest yandere ever
>OR ELSE I'M GOING TO BURN YOU FOREVER
>so greedy that even Jews point out his greediness
It's like you have a fetish to side with antagonist character.
>Noah spent 40 dyas and 40 nights on a boat
Noah confirmed for rip off from berserk
>The original Jewgi
>did nothing wrong.
But Yandere kill themselves after they kill the MC.
>If you can't be mine you better be dead so noone can have you
>God can do anything
>doesn't give everyone magic
>Moses parting the Sea
>Only Beach Episode
Bible confirms that something great must have a beach episode.
You got it reversed.
What, and have things turn out like SSY? No thanks.
>40 days and 40 nights
>Gutz has been stuck on the ship since the big bang
Noah is small time.
>All the fans tell me it's the most realistic story ever
>mfw they want me to believe Noah fitted every animal on a single boat.
>forgetting about Peter walking on water
Is Joseph the biggest beta in all of manga?
>Honey I'm pregnant
>But I swear I never had sex... it's... it was God!! I'm still a virgin
Oh I'm sure you are honey, lets go cuddle or something.
Get it on sadpanda, pharaoh and his slave harem chapter.
>lake is now a beach
Yeah but who wants a beach episode with only dudes?
>He doesn't watch Free!
can anyone wrotes a scenario about muhammad?
as an eroge and strategy game like utawarerumono?
first he got milf
and then loli.
am not really know the history but i think that would be good
>he cant fit every animal on a single boat
get gud skrub
That's not how you spell "Pure love for you're waifu who got raped daily by same anon who have same waifu as yours"
Dont get me started on the fans, fucking mental chuunis all of them
But Peter is a shit tier character
He was ready to stone her or at the very least gtfo but then God sent an Angel to tell him it's true.
I can see this going now.
HOLLY FUCK, isn't Utawarerumono MC also hailed as God and savior?
If God is good why did he create insects?
Depending on interpretation.
In some interpretations, Joseph is actually aware that he got ntr'd (and everyone knows too, that's why Jesus is said to be the son of Mary when adrssing him, instead of the son of Joseph) but loves her in spite of that.
Nobody mentions the insects.
For monstergirls of course.
Not just NTR anon, suspected loli NTR!
>On a caravan trail
>loli Aisha gets left behind because she left something at the stop (a toy I think?)
>guard get sent to find her
>everyone saying Aisha is a slut who had sex with the guard because she was out of Muhammad's sight for so long
>Muhammad believes his loli waifu and says she's pure
servants aren't human though
Eh. It was alright. The first half was pretty episodic, but it was decent overall. Second half a shit that's basically just edgy fanfiction. "Son" of the MC who's whole plan is to get tortured and die only to come back? Jesus
So he's a huge fucking beta.
Jesus christ my raging boner just calling me to stroke him right on the head, thanks to your post.
Fucking goddamnit, gonna need to go now to satisfy myself.
Well to be fair if the God story is true how the fuck are you going to say no to God?
First half was the edgy part with all the war, famine, slavery, smiting and sodomy.
I always tell people, at least watch until our lord and saviour Jesus turns up.
>No one mentions Rachel as most devoted waifu material
Step it up
Paul a shit
>killing whole villages
Yea, the first half is edgy as fuck.
Why does no one ever mentions Jesus' siblings?
>Steals pagan idols from her dad
Nah. I'd rather have Ruth, used goods though she may be. No heresy in my household.
>Implying that's not the best part
>Implying the second season NT where Jesus being a dense harem MC is good.
Why does no one ever mention Raditz?
>dense harem MC
He's not dense, he knows what people are thinking.
Yet he never give them the D.
What's wrong with him!
Could Jesus beat Archangel Michael in a fight?
Because they're either just followers of Christ or children of Joseph from an earlier marriage.
If Jesus actually had siblings from Mary then why didn't he have any of them watch over his mother? Pretty sure they're described as being adult men.
I thought that was basically one long yaoi doujin.
Who's the best antagonist?
he gave his disciples the D.
Samson is GAR as fuck
Ichigo confirmed for lord and savior
Is this supposed to be funny?
He had the best bread recipes.
Judas and Lucifer
Also Snake having a sex with eve on sadpanda is best doujin.
>Snake slithering between Eve wet tight
I don't remember that but the part where Judas betrays and kisses Jesus seems like nothing but Fujoshi bait.
It's a pretty contrived reason to two guys to kiss.
Here's the Hadith, not sure if its the entire story I just started reading it myself.
Confirmed for lewd adult novel.
Yet children can read this.
Fucking crazy author.
>No Fedoras quoting from Ecclesiastes.
ABEL IS A HUGE FAGGOT
to be fair, the damn thing was written, at the latest writings included, over 1700 years ago, the earliest writings over 2000 years old. there weren't exactly writing schools back then on how to tell a good story, plus a few of the many writers (multiple writers working on completely different passages with little to no collusion between writers will fuck up any written work) were convinced that they were taking dictations from some "higher voice", or so they claim, and some still were just trying to shove their propaganda into a preexisting work.
But hey, they did pretty well for their time. Don't be so harsh. OP.
Caine is the original edgelord.
>Hey I did this even before Anime, Manga, Light Novel and Visual novel invented.
Trully they are worst hipster.
But God demanded blood!
you're thinking of the offshot "Paradise Lost", which isn't canon.
Also, Judas is hardly an antagonist; he was the antagonists puppet
He was the Sasuke of his time
Now I want a coldsteel image with Caine
Cainefags pls go
King James scanlations lack cultural literacy
Why does this manga have the most cancerous fanbase ever? Worse than fucking SAO.
Caine only gave kami-sama the best secret offering, and got eternal life in return.
Forget pandering; the sheer retardation of everything there is OT tier.
>hurr I will kill 24 trillion people and drown the Earth in their blood
Edgy garbage, fucking dropped.
What why? Because it's free translation?
Abraham is quite underrated.
someone edit that picture of the comparison for different subs to fit this.
>I will return within your lifetime
>it's never mentioned again
Even the fans don't like to read this shit and write fanfics instead.
I never read any of the fanfics which are the most hilarious ones?
Was there any point to the three Magi?
The Mormon one. Now that is hillarious. My Immortal levels.
>Why is this manga so popular, /a/?
It's fans literally burned you alive if you didn't liked it.
Jesus's friends were his bros anon
>makes his kids retarded, doesn't teach them what consequences mean
>gets asspained when his retarded creations do something retarded
>allegedly omniscient, but somehow doesn't expect this
Either shit writing or God has IQ of a frog.
Don't forget that the fanbase is pretty chill.
giv shit to Jeus ofc what else
Is there any show that is worse than Muhammad? Worst show, worst gary stu, even worse than worst fanbase.
Isn't that how /a/ doing their things?
>Read Mushoku Tensei
Yeah that explain everything.
But the gifts were never mentioned again.
Did Mary simply throw it in the trash can the morning after?
It's symbolism. All those gifts are King-level, so it means Jesus must be a King.
Look up the second volume of corinthians on page 4 on the 4th image
Melchior > Caspar > Shit > Balthasar
Pontious Pilot is actually a pretty good villain.
He never gets into the conflict, but he does control a much of the plot during Jesus's trial
Pontius Pilate did nothing wrong.
What the fuck is with that ending?
SHIT WRITING IS SHIT
Just how many characters did nothing wrong in this clusterfuck?
I'm a secondary and I heard islam was based of this manga. Should I read it or is there no point ?
Jesus and Judas is my OTP. I'm not just wearing goggles! They were truly in love.
By the power of Ra!
>Playing with the big goys
>islam was based of this
No. God is the author and hired several different people to write and draw his manga. There are three main versions: Christian, Islam, and Jewish. They all depict God's stories in slightly different ways and have their own spin offs but it's the same universe.
Holy Grail War:
Servant: Moses as Caster
>Angel of death
>Parting the Red Sea
MC who ripped his mother's hymen with his head
Jesus this is new
Why didn't he make one single version then ? Not to mention some are contradictory, why would he say to the jews that they are the chosen people ? How come you can only become jew by being born from a jewish mother ? And why would he urge muslims to try and convert iconodules, christians and jews, who technicaly worshi the same god ? It makes no sense.
Actually the "virgin birth" is wrong.
Mary being virgin was mistranslation from hebrew "young woman".
I'm still bitter that this and all it's spin offs killed my favorite pagan manga. Hell, I don't even think it's that bad, I just want more crazy Celtic legends, they felt way more interesting for being smaller in scope.
Please let this be true, I can already taste the butthurt of my christian friends.
More for your christian friends:
We seem to lack the ability to go through with said burning. We'd like to, but the logistics just don't exist to facilitate it.
Thanks bro, but my sister and some of my friends wouldn't talk to me anymore if I showed them this. I had a good laugh though.
For greater good.
Nah, /a/ doesn't actually feel that strongly about its favorite Chinese cartoons. Besides, we're too autistic to have hurt feelings about someone calling our favorite animu shit.
It's okay man, I live in France, nobody here will stone you for not having a religion (which is roughly 40% of people here). It's just that calling people out on their beliefs is rude.
>It's just that calling people out on their beliefs is rude.
No. Its doing them a favor. It should be considered a help if you clear their misunderstandings.
Does anyone have a powerlevels chart for this manga?
The real question is who did nothing right?
The answer is Eve.
Eve did absolutely nothing right and was worst girl.
The autism is off the fucking charts.
>>Moses is a massive Gary Stu until the author decides to kill him off
>Fucking Moses a Gary Stu
Guy had a known temper issue, when he was denied access into heaven ever because he struck a rock that god led him to once out of anger for the Jews constantly complaining. Though he was still one of God's most beloved who was granted privileges in life even, but even then he did some things out of anger like when he killed that Egyptian who was beating his slave out of nowhere.
Even now he sits outside the gate of Heaven, just hanging out not able to get in, but still treated pretty well all things considered. There out front with St.Peter.
That'd imply there is a reasoning behind their faith. There isn't. That's why it's called faith.
When I was a snotty arrogant brat I actually did call religious people out and tried reasoning with them but I realized it was useless and what I was doing was rude. I don't like it when a religious person is trying to convert me in the street, why would a religious person like it when I try to make them understand that the god they worship is a fabrication ? Not to mention religion is essential to some people, some can't live without it, and some found real joy in living thanks to it. I'm not cruel enough to try and rob them of that.
Also that time he broke the Ten Commandments in anger after seeing the Jews worshipping cattle after he leaves for one or two days, right after God saved them all from Egypt literally days ago.
Then Moses had to carve them himself this time, because God wasn't giving him a second copy.
>That'd imply there is a reasoning behind their faith. There isn't. That's why it's called faith.
Thats what you should be calling them out for.
That they are not rational beings for having "faith" and thinking fairy tales from bronze age have any relevance in modern world.
Time for you kids to learn some Bible History
Reason isn't the only thing to go by in this world. Instinct is arguably irrational, yet many give priority to instinct over reason. Some people live according to their feelings too.
Of course they're being irrational, but I'm pretty sure they're aware of it. At least the people I discussed this with do. It may be different in america, I always had a feeling their christians as a whole were much more brainwashed than our own catholic ones. Of course we have christian integrists too, but nobody takes them seriously.
I love it.
>but I'm pretty sure they're aware of it
Thats actually where you are wrong.
Quite often, religious people cling to their faith exactly because they know no better.
Instincts can be rational or irrational depending on time and context. Suspecting that everything around you is potentially dangerous and therefore evil or unclean made sense when we were primitives in Africa, surrounded by lions, hyenas and an infinite number of parasites and bacterial diseases, but in a modern man such thinking would be retarded paranoia. Thinking that anecdotal tales say something about the world as a whole made sense when somebody's tales were the only source of info, but today but we can find out much more.
So yes, living according to your "feelings" can be objectively wrong and mistaken.
That's sad then, but I guess you can't help it when you're raised into it and you don't question what people teach you. But here in France it's becoming harder and harder not to "know better" as you say. As a whole non religious people may only be 40% of the population, but in the youngest strata of the population it reaches 70%. Children discuss this shit. I least I did, I remember not even knowing what baptism was when they taught us about Clovis and I was pretty surprised when a friend of mine told me I would be going to "hell".
Lot's wife deserved everything she got. She was so hesitant to leave she almost got her entire family burnt with her.
Also >skipping the part about Lot's daughters seducing him
France is the leader in atheism in Europe.
Please, it's pretty much as bad as western capeshit with the ridiculous amount of reinterpretations and retconning that each apostle does to push their own agenda.
No one ever remembers John the Baptist
Guy was one of the best
Anyone else own this? It was a Christmas gift, but the ideal itself makes it all worth it.
I-it's not like this makes me happy or anything.
These stats heavily depend on how the questions are worded, though. For example pic related; actual believers make up about 20% of the population, but most people care so little about religion that they don't think about their position at all and don't identify as anything.
Amos was a great arc he basically spends all of it shouting angrily at things that upset him.
It's not like France is in a good condition right now anyway.
Can't wait for the TUMBLING DOWN.
We're still better off than 90% of the world.
I guess this is one thing I can be proud as a Czech.
Have you accepted Marie LePen as your next PM already?
Good for you, fellow brave-theist.
If you're a retard who gets proud over trivial things, I guess.
All said and done minus the being banished Caine got a pretty good deal with that mark.
10x return damage.
Watching videos about Christians vs. Atheists in US of A. I think this is far from trivial matter.
Consider this: our national mentality is supposedly so bizarre that even Nazis were puzzled. Heydrich of all people called us "the laughing beasts".
Oh nooooo, stupid clickbait videos. Whatever will the world do?
Trivial. But I guess as a Czech you'll cling on to whatever you can get, huh?
Lidice deserved it.
The car accident one triggers me. I've been hit by a car and gotten horribly injured how am I not lucky for surviving?
>Oh nooooo, stupid clickbait videos.
You mean those discussions where religious nonsense is taken more seriously than scientific research?
Yeah. Be delusional. Your nation is going to shit and there is little you can do about it.
The problem is that many religious people link luck with divine intervention. And so think high of themselves because of that.
I hope you don't do that.
>You mean those discussions where religious nonsense is taken more seriously than scientific research?
Has nothing to do with atheism since atheists are also superstitious.
Some of the most atheist countries on the planet are also the ones that most widely believe in ghosts.
Also a retarded point since multiple religious people currently serve on the Board for Skeptical Inquiry.
I just try not to think too much about it. I trust my fellow people will vote massively against her should she reach second round but who knows what might happen until then and who will be against her. Anyone's fine (preferably Juppé, Aubry or Segolène) as long as it's not Hollande or Sarkozy. If it were, I can't be guarantee Marine won't be president.
Well duh, but still surviving is pretty nice.
>Your nation is going to shit
>Says the Pepik
>You'll never be Lot and get raped by your daughterus
>not realizing he was the beloved because he was the shota
>Has nothing to do with atheism since atheists are also superstitious.
>Some of the most atheist countries on the planet are also the ones that most widely believe in ghosts.
But there is major difference between believing in ghosts and thinking that your believes give your live higher meaning.
>Also a retarded point since multiple religious people currently serve on the Board for Skeptical Inquiry.
Out of how many?
Well. We are all going to shit. USA is just going into deeper shit.
Atheists please, take it elsewhere. This thread was fun.
>the National Academy of Science charted belief in God as low as 5.5 percent among biologists and 7.5 percent among physicist and astronomers
Christfag pls go and stay go. The more educated you are the less likely you are to believe in fairytales.
>The problem is that many religious people link luck with divine intervention.
The Bible itself directly says that's bullshit; Karma isn't how it works, and sometimes you can suffer so that others are given a chance to shine by helping you or that you get a chance to shine by being tested.
That's the moral of a lot of stories there, rather than "Do good and nothing but good things will happen to you forever", rather life is a test, and all things will come upon you to seek your failure at times if you pick the true path. True path is worth it though, since eternal peace and goodness and all that if you keep to the straight and narrow despite temptation.
Just look at the story of Lot to understand how luck is bullshit. Some people in that story were even "What did you do to God, he must have cursed you for doing bad". At the end God was all "Why did you think he did something bad just because he had poor luck? Go bed his forgiveness, if he agrees then will I grant you such a thing, but he is far more noble than any of you".
No matter how devout you are, life is a test in the end, shit things happen to us all to test us or whatever
>But there is major difference between believing in ghosts and thinking that your believes give your live higher meaning
What is the difference and why does it matter?
What makes you think believing in ghosts can't convince someone their life has higher meaning?
>Out of how many
An amount significant enough to nullify anti-theist philosophies.
>USA is just going into deeper shit.
What is the quantitative scientific scale for measuring how 'deep in shit' a country goes?
>Just look at the story of Lot to understand how luck is bullshit.
It was Job
>implying he wasn't just pretending to be asleep
Most of them are just agnostics who have no problem with religion at all.
They could even be agnostic theists.
The profession of not having absolute knowledge in no way invalidates religion.
Look, I understand you use terms like that to be inflammatory but you're misusing the English language. At most, Biblical stories would be considered 'folk narratives'. They don't fit with the definition of fairy tales in any way.
Please don't perpetuate inaccuracies.
>The Bible itself directly says that's bullshit
It also says slavery is OK and killing kids who don't listen is fine too.
Also. If it life is test, what I get for passing that test? What I get for failing that test? What if I picked the wrong test? Where are guarantess that I really get what I'm supposed to get?
Well, Lot's story was pretty bullshit too.
>incestfags chosen for their goodness and virtue
>death penalty for turning your head
He got incest end after his waifu died.
>not running and heading for the hills
>wasting time by looking at explosions
>What is the difference and why does it matter?
>What makes you think believing in ghosts can't convince someone their life has higher meaning?
Because then people can do shit that would normally be immoral or dangerous to others.
Religion breeds extremists. And extremists are always bad. Even if most religious people are harmless, they create breeding ground and give justification to people who would crash themselves with plane into scyscraper just because their religion tells them so.
>>incestfags chosen for their goodness and virtue
Bible never said incest was wrong from what I recall. The stigma for that is mainly in modern day society, and even then it won't come with immediate ill effects, until it's a few generations of incest down the line when you start getting the freaks.
>>death penalty for turning your head
God said don't turn to look back at that shit for a reason. It was also noted when that one guy went to Heaven that the Seraphim concealed themselves with their many wings because even looking upon them would incinerate a mortal soul quite instantly because they were too holy to comprehend.
Saddam and Gomorrah could have been cleansed by the holy light, and such light will burn you the fuck out if you look at it directly.
>Because then people can do shit that would normally be immoral or dangerous to others.
Doesn't believing in ghosts do the same thing?
>Religion breeds extremists. And extremists are always bad.
No they aren't. Are extreme pacifists always bad? Are extreme peace activists always bad? Is extremism bad when it's aimed towards an oppressive regime?
>Even if most religious people are harmless, they create breeding ground and give justification to people who would crash themselves with plane into scyscraper just because their religion tells them so.
Is there a scientific scale that measures how likely it is for someone to do this? Or are you just guessing?
What makes religion different from anything else? Aren't there irreligious extremists?
Can I not do the same thing with patriotism? Or a political philosophy?
Every single thing you are describing is not inherent to religion. It is inherent to any organized system of thought. You're letting preconceived notions and personal biases make you irrational.
>Saddam and Gomorrah could have been cleansed by the holy light
Good thing Saddam and Gomorrah never existed and are made up story.
>Assblasted Fedoras derail thread
Meh, it was inevitable.
>polled about their belief in higher power
>say they don't believe in any
>i-it doesn't mean anything! T-They still could be theists!
Look at him and laugh. Also:
>Main Entry: fairy tale
>1 a : a story (as for children) involving fantastic forces and beings —called also fairy story b : a story in which improbable events lead to a happy ending
>2 : a made-up story usually designed to mislead
The word fairytale fits nicely.
When's the last time a Christian flew a plane into a building? Or a Jain? Or a Buddhist?
You're placing blame on religion in this case when there's no objective way of saying it was the fault of religion. Emotionally appealing to 9/11 is also a pretty cheap way to continue an argument.
Could 9/11 not have happened without religion? I mean, when you get down to it it was an act of political revenge. It could've easily been justified by simply that.
If religion didn't exist then 9/11 would have still happened for political reasons. Logically, the same elements that caused it to happen would still exist even without religion.
Your examples are poor. This is textbook uneducated atheism.
>They could still be theists
Yes, anon. They could. Agnostic theists exist.
See, there are gnostic theists, agnostic theists, gnostic atheists, and agnostic atheists. Agnostic theists acknowledge lack of certainty. But they are still theists.
>The word fairytale fits nicely.
It does not. A fairy tale, in purely academic terms, is a short story of European folkloric fantasy. Your definitions are incorrect.
The point is that removing religion would mean removing one more form of extremism.
Of course, there are other forms of extremism, but they quite often work on same social principles.
Many propagators of atheims say that many extreme political regimes (Fashism, South Korea) are practically religions with their leader as their god.
The point is that we need to educate people. We need to show them that they are creators of their own happiness. And that there is nothing to save you other than yourself and people who are close to you.
That was obviously just an example. But there are clear historical facts that show Christianity as justification for what we consider wrong now. The Crusades, slavery, etc.. are all great example.
The reason why Christians are relatively meek nowadays is because there is massive counter-weight of atheists.
Also, there are clear psychological and social studies that show that religion is harmfull in the long run.
>Do not have sexual relations with your sister or half sister, whether she is your father's daughter or your mother's daughter, whether she was born into your household or someone else's.
>Do not have sexual relations with your son's daughter or your daughter's daughter; that would dishonor you.
Bible disapproves of incest only when it suits the author.
Suppose that's why Lot had to be drunk first so his virtue would remain intact.
It never approved. Cousins don't count.
>Cousins don't count.
Yes they do.
No they don't.
>The point is that removing religion would mean removing one more form of extremism.
This relies on the idea that without religion, the entirety of the religious extremist population would no longer be extremist. This is a logical fallacy.
>Many propagators of atheims say that many extreme political regimes (Fashism, South Korea) are practically religions with their leader as their god.
Well, they're wrong, clearly. You don't have religion without some kind of supernatural or mystic element.
>The point is that we need to educate people.
Plenty of educated people choose religion.
>But there are clear historical facts that show Christianity as justification for what we consider wrong now.
There are also clear historical facts that show atheism as justification for what we consider wrong.
What about Choibalsan's massacre of Buddhist clergymen? What about Mao Zedong starving millions of religious people by placing on the lowest priority for food rationing?
In the last 100 years or so, atheist world leaders have been responsible for approximately 148 millions deaths. Every one of these leaders followed atheism as a primary tenant of their positions. Every one of these leaders committed war crimes and atrocities relating to the oppression of the religious.
You could argue 'Well, atheism is not an ideology in and of itself', but why does that matter? You're influenced by the things you don't believe in as well as things you do. Clearly, you wouldn't be having this conversation if you were not atheist. So atheism influences your actions just like religion does. It can also do so negatively.
>But there are clear historical facts that show Christianity as justification for what we consider wrong now
So? What makes you think these things would not have happened without religion? The Crusades were a territorial dispute. Looking at the facts, even without religion involved, war was inevitable.
Slavery? Well, slavery is profitable for slavers. Obviously they'd want to do it anyway and would find ways to justify it.
It should be obvious to any educated person that violence and these kind of things emerge due to authoritarian regimes, political upheaval, social unrest, and economic issues. But no, people with agendas just blame it on religion because it's easy, because it fuels their agenda and makes their job easier.
Here are the facts. Atheism, in the past 100 years, has been used for justification for more deaths than religion. That's 148 million, approximately. That's 182,716 times worse than the Spanish Inquisition.
Now, we can either be irrational and blame atheism and religion for these things (in which case atheism would be worse).
Or we can rationally acknowledge the complexity of each situation and that neither religion nor atheism should be held as chiefly responsible for any of it. Either way, I think I've won.
>Also, there are clear psychological and social studies that show that religion is harmfull in the long run.
Let's see them. I'll tell you why they're bullshit.
SHE'S STILL PURE SHE'S MY WAIFU!!
Bin Ladin and co. were primarily upset about the American presence in their "holy lands" and their support of kikes, so without religion 2/3 of their reasoning for doing anything outright disappears. You can go "well, it might have happened anyway" if you wish, but the fact is that religion was very central to what they did.
Is there /u/? Won't bother reading if not.
I guess you win this one. I don't really want to type out a book right now.
>Atheism, in the past 100 years, has been used for justification for more deaths than religion.
>That's 148 million, approximately.
Where the fuck did you get this number? I hope you are not going to say Hitler, because he was Roman Catholic and often talked about God and how his race was created higher than everyone else.
>so without religion 2/3 of their reasoning for doing anything outright disappears
Incorrect. The reasoning for both of those would still exist.
>American presence in what they view as their territory
Xenophobia. Racism. Nationalism. All elements that contribute to this without religion. They'd still be upset.
>Support of kikes
Racism. Political fear of other countries. Exists without religion.
>Religion was very central to what they did
I just explained how the reasoning stands even without religion. I think this logically proves that religion was not central to what they did.
The point is that religion is often used as justification in those cases. It is easy to do shit. It is much harder to justify it to other people.
But if everyone else "believes" same god as you. And you can justify your actions as being commands of said god, then no one can say anything bad about you, because they would deny their own god.
If you remove religions, then said justification becomes much harder.
>What is Sodom and Gomorah
Incest, NTR, Eternally pure waifu, Haremshit, Brown skin, Imiut fetish, Racemixing fetish, Bestiality, etc
Name your fetish and interest, this manga/LN has it.
>Hitler was Roman Catholic
He was baptized Roman Catholic and he occasionally mentioned religion. That doesn't make him religious, especially since the Catholic Church has a very strong stance against eugenics.
>Where the fuck did you get this number?
Okay, let me explain. You can fact check this as you see fit, it's all accurate.
Twenty-eight countries in world history have been ruled by avowed atheists. Overall, there have been 89 atheist leaders in the world.
Of those 89? 52 committed war crimes. In the past century alone, we have seen that 58% of all atheist leaders have committed crimes against humanity.
The totaly body count between 1917 and 2007 thanks to atheist leaders? About 148 million. Choibalsan, Mengistu, Beirut, and even old-timey favorites like Stalin and Mao.
Each and every one of them had atheism as a central tenant to their ideology and every single one of them committed crimes against the religious with atheism as justification for it. I already mentioned the Choibalsan massacre of Buddhist clergymen. It killed over 30,000 people and nearly made Buddhism go extinct in Mongolia.
Look up these people. Look up their death tolls. Look up their political stances and crimes justified by atheism. It'll all add up. And that's just five out of the 52.
So, despite having 1/20th of the opportunity to do it compared to religious people, war crimes committed by atheists are, on average, quantitatively worse than anything done by a Christian regime.
Go to /pol/ /int/ and /x/ lot of you.
We are talking about this LN not to talk what is right and wrong about this world.
>The point is that religion is often used as justification in those cases
And if it wasn't then something else would be. Nothing has changed.
I also find it convenient that religion being used as justification for good things is so easily ignored, despite the fact that religious people give billions upon billions of dollars to charity every year.
>If you remove religions, then said justification becomes much harder.
The fact that communism exists and did so many bad things proves you wrong, I think. Communist regimes promoted state atheism and yet they've done more damage than anything else in the modern day.
Like any other organized system of thought, religion can be manipulated by the immoral. That's no reason to be anti-religious. Heck, even if you go full-on anarchist there will still be people like asshole Russian anarchist suicide bombers who fuck it up for everyone.
>Choibalsan, Mengistu, Beirut, and even old-timey favorites like Stalin and Mao.
Those are exactly those that were not atheist. They created their own religions with them as "gods".
>Each and every one of them had atheism as a central tenant to their ideology and every single one of them committed crimes against the religious with atheism as justification for it.
No, their justification was not atheism, but fighting for supremacy of their "personal religion".
Also, leader being Atheist doens't make the whole country atheist. Atheist country means the majority of it's inhabitants admit to being atheist.
>And if it wasn't then something else would be.
What? Exactly what would else than religion would be to justify that?
>The fact that communism exists and did so many bad things proves you wrong, I think. Communist regimes promoted state atheism and yet they've done more damage than anything else in the modern day.
Many extremist communist countries had their own "religions of person".
>Those are exactly those that were not atheist. They created their own religions with them as "gods".
No, they didn't. They were atheists. They advocated state atheism. They all had philosophy regarding to atheism.
They were all Marxists who believed religion was poison and they were religious.
>No, their justification was not atheism, but fighting for supremacy of their "personal religion".
You are reaching. They did not believe in anything non-physical, they did not call themselves Gods.
>Also, leader being Atheist doens't make the whole country atheist
No. Just they made it against the law to not be atheist.
Your entire argument centers on the idea that every authoritarian regime is a religion. That is not religion. That is not what religion means. You are manipulating language in a blatantly incorrect way.
The definition of religion is not 'harmful totalitarian regime'. You're not arguing against religion, you're arguing against totalitarianism.
Every source imaginable will tell you that Mao Zedong was an atheist who hated religion. The only reason for you to take the stance you're taking is for some obsessive mania to pretend as if your stance has never been involved in anything bad.