Griffith did nothing wrong.
but he rapped casca,
surely that is wrong, right?
No one gives a fuck about WORST girl.
He faffed about for around 2 years after attaining the power to make his dream come true. Even if the ones he sacrificed had done so willingly, it's still too long. Get to work as soon as you can you fucking faggot.
he ate all his old comrades
he done the gay with the emperor for money
Not if she wanted it.
He did nothing right either. He has no control over his own destiny.
has there been any news or anything on the 4th berserk movie yet??
No its Katsurap yo!
Fuck that. The character animation was, for the most part, absolutely terrible, even if it was more complex and detailed.
second season when?
Cancelled because each one of Studio 4C piles of shit flopped and each lost more money than the last.
It's for the best that they stopped defiling Berserk with their fuckawful CGI.
If they got the original director of the anime back and gave him a budget, it would be the best adaptation ever.
No he only sacrificed all his buddies to become a demon God.
source on that?
Forget the visuals, I found the narrative in the movies to be unfulfilled. You can only make the conclusion for character motivations like Griffith's if you're already familiar with the parts of the backstory the movies never cover. I found them stilted and barren of any real feeling or emotion. Maybe that's also in part due to the soundtrack not being anything special.
>each one of Studio 4C piles of shit flopped and each lost more money than the last.
This actually makes me sad, for some reason.
someone remnd me why he raped Kaska again?
Was it to piss off Gattsu? or to give birth to that demon kid
From a moral standpoint: Yes.
From a human-perspective: No.
He put his own gain/profit/greed before anything else, that's the man he really is no matter how you look at it.
The movies treated the material as an excuse to plod from one action scene to another. There was no attempt to add anything special or to try to grasp at any of the many, many underlying themes of the manga.
The TV anime skimped on most of the supernatural and causality bits from the manga in favor of fleshing out character relationships and building themes of friendship and belonging. It was on a shoestring budget, but it still remembered to hit all the notes to flesh out its characters and their stories but didn't slow down its pacing to navel-gaze.
Spell their fucking names right.
Give me a break
Only if you break me off a piece of that Kit-Kat bar.
It's like the polar opposite to what Yamato 2199 managed to accomplish, but the 1974 series wasn't always so strong in character as much as it was the weekly episodic struggle.
Here you go
Mind explaining it to me now?
>Sacrificing your comrades to a horde of rape-demons because you (and only you) LITERALLY fucked yourself over, massively.
>Raping a woman in front of the man she loved, because she found love in him that you showed no sign of being willing to provide.
>Prostituting yourself to a cabal of satans that worship super-satan 3: the sataning, after prostituting yourself to some anonymous nobleman for money.
>All so that you could play king of the hill, in a land that your re-birth completely devastated with magical horrors.
If you think floors/walls/ceilings of Falconia are going to be coated with anything less than a mixture of innocent blood and demon splooge by the end of this misadventure, you may have just fucking forgot what manga you're following. Though I guess by supporting Griffith, I couldn't blame you for being a complete retard; you were just born that way.
>expecting perfection from a movie adaptation
every movie adaptation foreveything is shit compared to the source material.
with expectations like yours you will never satisfied with anything. they could have added every chapter from the manga in the movie and you still wouldnt have been satisfied.
no it doesnt excuse them from cutting important characterization scenes.
>they could have added every chapter from the manga in the movie and you still wouldnt have been satisfied.
I would have been, actually. Having Wyald animated would be awesome.
i meant him specifically.
there was interview in the 3rd movie with eiko tanaka and she mentioned she felt bad for having to cut out certain scenes like wyald and other important ones like guts backstory but due to limitations they werent able to fit everything.
The movie adaptation doesn't need to be shit. It just needs to understand its source material so that it is adapted(which, of course, implies changes) it can stand on its own merits.
The Berserk movies can NOT stand on their own merits. They require you to be familiar with the source material to understand the story and character motivations because they cut all instances of character development out to fit more terrible CGI fight scenes. Or that one terrible CGI dance scene.
Point is, they could have been good. I WANTED so badly for them to be good.
They were not. They were terrible and I am ever thankful the project is over and done with.
>so that what* is adapted...
miura needs to redraw the golden age arc. going back to it after reading the manga for so long was really off putting. but i guess being able to see a manga transform by improving on its art so drastically is pretty cool.
It makes sense, but then they actually added scenes that weren't there before, and prolonged other ones needlessly, so yeah...
I agree the movies sucked, but let's be fair; the fight scenes were pretty cool in general.
Yeah, that would be awesome too.
im still confused as to why the anime pretends the black swordsman arc never existed despite having its first episode in the black swordsman arc.
its weird, there wasnt really any in-between in quality. it went from ok these facial expressions seems pretty weird to fucking perfection over night.
i felt that if each movie would have been at least 2 hours each they would have been able to fit everything. why the fuck was the first movie just above an hour? hey could have at least added a few more bonus features so i could at least feel like i got my moneys worth but all we got was a 10 page concept art gallery.
Fuck off you little shitcunt until you learn how proper fucking grammar works.
in the interview, they claimed miura was going over the storyboard for the movie and they were waiting patiently for his opinion. they said he turned around and said "its wonderful". wtf was that shit about? is miura turning into a hack?
Get the fuck out.
oh great the autist showed up.
I don't know. The progression isn't totally smooth, but I can identify more than 1 time when it obviously progressed.
Yeah, they probably would have been able to. The anime was like 5 hours in total or something.
>is miura turning into a hack?
Look at how much the plot has declined in quality since Conviction ended.
so youre saying he is?
Maybe "hack" is too harsh, but he's clearly not the same author he once was.
>talking shit about Guts' waifu, a.k.a BEST girl
Guts should come after you after he gets done killing Griffith and having consensual sex with Casca on top of his corpse.
well even as fucked up as the movies were i still wouldnt mind having more of them if not just for the action scenes. i would love the future movies even more if they were to do the manga justice but judging from our past experiences thats not gonna happen.
>every movie adaptation foreveything is shit compared to the source material.
What is Blade Runner?
>He put his own gain/profit/greed before anything else
Literally everyone does this
>implying he'll be able to beat Griffith
he doesn't stand a chance, not even with Shonen dog-armor of overpowered
He loses a lot of my sympathy because he wouldn't have needed the power of God Hand if he wasn't a stupid fuckling who did retarded shit to get over losing his boytoy's membership.
This is Japan we are talking about here. The power of friendship can kill gods, so it wouldn't surprise me of we get a stupid asspull out of Berserk, too.
It's not like he really had a choice, it was destiny, all planned millennia before
>he still gets butthurt when people talk shit about his shitty waifu
>he wants a fictional character to kill people that talk shit about his shitty waifu
You're such a pathetic moron. You should be ashamed of yourself.
oh so we're getting technical now...
my bad i thought i wouldnt need to point out i was talking about animu.
Were you in that /pol/ thread yesterday too?
Yeah. I really can't see Guts just going straight up and killing him like with his other enemies so far. I hope the plot won't be so simple/
>Were you in that /pol/ thread yesterday too?
Yes, although the picture i already had beforehand because i like this stuff
The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya.
op is fag
>he ended a sentence with a slash
You're such a retarded gender confused shitwad.
His rapping was pretty good eh?
looks like we got an A-class comedian here today guys.
Me too. Saved some good pics from that thread.
Yeah, it's actually the second time this week that I do this. I need to pay more attention. I'm still not gender-confused, though.
>pretends that he's not gender confused
You're such a retarded gender confused shitwad.
This goy gets it
You said for everything, not for strictly anime/manga/light novels/etc.
so you cant name anything then?
Casca enjoyed being raped by griffith
she kissed him , embraced him , and told guts to look away so she could enjoy herself in private
>mfw plebs disagree
griffith is a nigger
>take 2 years to rescue their leader from a torture dungeon
Now that bike is something I can't deal with.
>hawk and other rape apologists
But then it wouldn't be rape, would it.
Now, wise magical negro, on the other hand, that was a blessing of biblical proportions. We should all be talking about him instead of the goofy ass rape raven nobody likes.
One year, keeping themselves alive amidst attacks by Midland's armies and establishing connections with Griffith apologists, sorry, sympathizers up to and including the princess. Shame most of that was off-panel, because those acts alone established Casca as an excellent commander.
>the soundtrack not being anything special.
Bullshit. If the movies had one great thing it was the OST.
Fun fact, despite what certain people who I will not name say, they actually do want Guts and Casca to stick together against Griffith following her recovery. Guess it's just a matter of self-insertion that make people say it.
That piano track that played during the rape would've been great if it wasn't for the fucking French horn bleating every ten seconds. We get it, rape is bad, you don't have to push it.
What the actual fuck, is he having sex with her knee or lower back?
>But then it wouldn't be rape, would it.
Rape, by definition, requires a lack of consent, but not necessarily a lack of pleasure. So yeah, it can still be rape even if you enjoy it, unless you think that pleasure=consent.
Guts is a mad dog, so he likes it doggy style.
It's all just a bunch of nerves, Hawk. Anyway, I think your opinions on these threads are actually quite influential on others. We certainly weren't this divided on Griffith before you came here, anyway.
This is where the butt should be, what the fuck is he doing?
No no no, this is vaginal. I don't think Guts would be very comfortable with sticking himself up someone's pooper, anyway.
>Guts will never give you the reach around as he's making fuck with you
>Fucks his life up
>Makes his loyal comrades pay for it
>Destroys world to get a kingdom
>It's all just a bunch of nerves, Hawk.
So? What's your point here?
>I think your opinions on these threads are actually quite influential on others. We certainly weren't this divided on Griffith before you came here, anyway.
That's what I've been telling you for months, and you didn't believe me.
You're looking at it wrong. She's actually upside down. The part above is her legs, and the part under is her body.
Yes he did. He is an absolute cunt.
how could he redraw them if he couldn't even draw more fucking chapters.
The vagina should be around here though
In that case he is having sex with her bellybutton and that Casca has literally does not possess an ass
A nervous reaction is something that is incredibly sensitive and can change at the slightest inconvenience, like, say, getting assaulted by numerous Apostle tentacles and claws. As pleasure/pain is also assessed by affective (emotions associated) and cognitive (thoughts associated) qualities, it isn't so simple as the sensory functions regarding the nerves.
You're looking at it wrong. She's sitting on top of Guts, getting all comfy.
Shit guys, why are we talking about such lewd things?
>You're looking at it wrong. She's sitting on top of Guts, getting all comfy.
Guts would still be making fuck with her tailbone
No, this is how it works.
Nobody said otherwise, though.
Why is /a/ so tsundere about Casca?
Ah, now i see
Why do people defend Griffith.
Griffith is so cool i wish he was my dad
I like talking about these little things. You see, if Casca really did enjoy it, she would have to be a Slan-level masochist. That time when she fell unconscious from having her female problems, remember that? Those pains would be giving her power, allowing her to blaze through the battlefield effortlessly.
Hey, I remember you from somewhere.
>I like talking about these little things.
Yeah, I know. You love rape.
>You see, if Casca really did enjoy it, she would have to be a Slan-level masochist.
I don't think she did, though.
>That time when she fell unconscious from having her female problems, remember that?
That was entirely different. I don't think she fainted solely from pain. It was more likely to be a big combination of pain, menstruation, temperature, and the circumstances.
>What is Akira?
>What is Ghost in the Shell?
Just face it that you were wrong by making a generalization.
Only WMN, to be honest. I know what you're saying, but I'm getting into the details as a means to turn off the bonkers of the general anons. If they like Casca, they would stick to the golden rule. If they dislike Casca, they would be getting a boner over Slan instead. I'm looking at you, no name.
*boners, silly autocorrect.
Also, why does it matter if people fap to Casca or not? I don't get mad every time people say they want to "fuck Griffith's boypussy" and other stuff like that.
/a/ isn't one person and don't misuse the word tsundere, you mongoloid.
Yeah wouldn't want to disrespect childrens cartoons mostly consumed by young adult autists
Hi, pleb here. Is it possible to adquire (buy) every episode of Bersek?
>being this random
Keep that to yourself.
Wise magical negro, our lord and savior. By dumping his holy seed into Guts' boypussy, he created a weapon of mass destruction. Of course, that was at the cost of his life, but he died for our sins.
Oh no, I wasn't implying that at all. As you can see from that poll, /a/ consists of at least 21 people, with over half of them enjoying the delicious hot cocoa that is Casca.
Most people like Casca. It's just the same 1 or 2 Griffithfags needlessly pestering in every thread.
Most people seem to be pretty neutral about her, I'd say, with a minority who likes her and another minority who dislikes her.
Here's the better version.
I think the pestering is getting old at this point. Nobody takes it seriously.
>Implying this is not the real version
It's the better version because it's the real version.
>Casca will never give you a noogy
So who else is hoping guts party gets killed and guts can go back to being cool again?
Do you guys think the Idea of Evil will ever be formally reintroduced? Miura's still throwing hints, but he's put himself in a difficult situation if he tries to do a shock reveal of it.
No, some of my favorite characters are in his party. It would be horrible.
I don't mind Casca being retarded but Miura making her Retard Moe fucking kills me inside. Remember how much of a proud warrior Casca was then we got pic related later
Probably because they are women or homosex.
The fact that Guts isn't a roving murderhobo any more is pretty important for his character. Going back to that life at this point will get him either killed or armour-spookified like SkullKnight.
He's watching too much idolmaster/moe anime
Which characters are your favorite?
His character is going down the typical shonen hero path, it's a terribly gay path and he should turn around pronto
You can understand and defend Griffith without being sexually attracted to him.
They're second and third after Griffith.
Guts will never go back to being the Black Swordsman in the sense that he's in harmony with the beast. Rather, him giving into the armor means that the Beast will take him over entirely. He'll be a literal edgelord, and it'll reverse so many years of character development.
IoE being reintroduced will require either an infodump by the Elf King or one character somehow reaching the depths of the Ideal World and speaking to it directly.
I agree, Guts must be dying inside every time he looks at her in his current state and thinks about what they had together. In regards to Skully's cryptic words to Guts, this is most likely what she wants.
I don't like that reasoning, mainly because I've heard "muh IM@S" so many times that it's become stale. He's probably been putting on these hiatuses due to a lack of conviction in the plot. After all, Sea God is one of the weakest arcs so far, and bringing back Casca after nearly two decades is obviously not going to be as simple as we think.
She was childish generic tsundere without potential to be more interesting, i don't like her more this way but it's not exactly a huge loss
Also i will be gone for like 4 hours now so unable to respond to more questions in that time
Don't come back
>childish generic tsundere
It won't exactly be a huge loss for these threads if you die in the next four hours, Griffithfag.
It's not often that we get Jill edits. Saved, thanks.
> childish generic tsundere without potentia
She was finally getting over Griffith til he lost his shit and fucked Charlotte. I would have loved to see her go with Guts but then the Eclipse happened.
Technically they've accomplished what they originally set out to do by running away together from Griffith, but neither are able to realize it. Though they're commonplace now, I don't think there were many characters like Casca back in the day.
How is Guts not able to realize it?
Would Guts consider healing Casca to be his first real victory against the Godhand? (not that they'd give a shit). Every victory along the way has just been him not letting the situation get any worse, for once Gut's life actually may improve.
He's probably too busy worrying over other things. Casca might bring it up though, won't Elfheim be a nice foresty place like where they made fuck the first time?
Well, it will be the first effect of the Eclipse to be reversed, so this is actually very important in regards to the plot. I can see why Miura would want to take his time with getting it right, if my suspicions are correct.
No, you actually think that /a/ is one person because you're dumb.
>dat lack of reading comprehension
If /a/ is one person, who are you talking to?
My reading comprehension is perfect, you retard. If you know that /a/ isn't one person, then just say "/a/ users". If you only say "/a/", people will think that you think that /a/ is one person, you mongoloid.
Anons. Why are you so angry all the time?
Don't say anons because you're only talking about people who are anonymous.
That's the way things should be. No tripfags, no no names. You'd have to be a degenerate to want it any other way.
Nobody cares about your opinions.
Stop misusing the word degenerate, you mongoloid.
>thinks being called a degenerate is a misuse of the word
No, you're just regurgitating the word degenerate because you recently heard it on /pol/ and you don't know what it means because you're dumb.
Who is best Apostle and why is it Wyald?
Just so you all know, there's nothing "degenerate" about having an identity here.
Because he's charismatic, unlike the other ones.
Why are the light-blue-haired anime men of the '80s and '90s so based? Is it because of glam rock?
It's what you do that makes you a degenerate, Hawk-chan.
>implying Rosine isn't charismatic
Because you fap to them at night.
I did nothing wrong, and yeah, I guess Rosine's kinda charismatic, too, but only in the form with the bug eyes.
But Hawk, you're a 23 year old NEET who got suspended for burning a field down. Obviously you did something wrong somewhere in your life.
>STILL trying to make me blog
I bet your parents can pinpoint the exact moment they went wrong in raising you, ie. the second your ugly head was reared from your mother's vagina.
Deepfag from the Caverns of Pretentia was a better Berserk namefaggot than you'd ever be.
I think that he's alright, but overrated.
I miss that guy. He didn't blogfag or anything.
What's so funny about the birthing process? Nothing wrong with being mean as long as you're honest, isn't that your modus operandi?
>He didn't blogfag or anything.
He wasn't manipulated into doing it.
>Nothing wrong with being mean as long as you're honest, isn't that your modus operandi?
Yes, but you always forget the "honest" part.
Any news on the new chapter?
Surely we aren't going to wait for another year and a half?
Do you know why he wasn't manipulated? Because he wasn't a little shit. He knew who best girl was too, no bones about it.
So who's your favorite character and why?
Mine's Griffith/Femto because he does great things and doesn't care about petty shit like morality
you're just a loser who doesn't know when to stop
>being this dumb
You tell us.
Does actually believe Griffith did nothing wrong? While he might have been somewhat justified in what he did during the Eclipse, it was still morally wrong. Especially with the whole Casca rape bit, where it served no purpose but to mentally torture Guts.
To the idiot who just got their "I just finished the anime" thread shut down, read the manga you shit
Yeah, that was definitely the part that certified him as irredeemably evil. The poor woman was pregnant, too.
>there are Berserk "fans" who don't know the greatness of Bishop Mozgus
>Does actually believe Griffith did nothing wrong?
Black swordsmen arc guts thought so
please use the word berserk in the OP the next time so its easier to find
I think he's just trying to say Black Swordsmen arc Guts did bad things
Because he's the only apostle that seems to enjoy his life.
They're never getting off that boat
>Guts is verbally condemning his waifu who can't fend for herself
Yeah, I never noticed that before, but that's pretty hypocritical.
What a pussy.
He's not just saying that to make himself feel better, and It's not untrue, he really doesn't have to be responsible for anyone else.
It was easier for him to live that way, but we all know it made him feel like shit.
Griffithfag is back, your hatred makes me both stronger and more pretentious
>Technically they've accomplished what they originally set out to do by running away together from Griffith, but neither are able to realize it
I think it's more the fact that they now have lots of bigger problems that keeps them from feeling relieved
Where did you get that picture from?
How is it hypocritical?
It's hypocritical because Guts doesn't actually want to think that.
He wants to care about Casca, he wants to mourn the band of the hawk, he wants to hate Griffith for all it's worth. To put it simply, Guts has survivors' guilt. Look at the things he has done, he's killed more men in personal combat than Griffith probably ever did.
The manga is called Berserk, it's all about the dude being angry. He's angry about everything and he doesn't know what the fuck to do with himself.
That's why Casca is so important, if Casca can be healed than Guts can be healed too. It's not going to be that simple.
So where and which order can you read the manga?
I don't get where the beginning is. Only place i found, the first ch was supposedly a continuation to an arc not even covered in the anime.
Sorry for dumb questions, ive just never read a manga before
Well yeah, that's what I meant. There's nothing stopping Guts from realizing it at least, but between the threat of the beast, his revenge and everything else, he may have forgotten about it.
As for the picture, it's from an interview manga that got published alongside the latest chapter in Young Animal. You can download Evil Genius's translation of it on their site.
Berserk begins in medias res, with both anime adaptations choosing to cover the Golden Age arc instead. Seeing as Parasyte managed to get an anime adaptation when the manga ended in 1995, maybe there's hope for post-Eclipse Berserk, but I'm not holding my breath.
If it starts out with a man with a canon for an arm having sex with a monster then that's the correct beginning.
Although there is also a one-shot that came before that but it's not a part of this story and is in no way required reading to get into berserk.
>It's hypocritical because Guts doesn't actually want to think that.
He does though, people can want lots of different things at the same time, even have those desires contradict each other.
Why would he want to care and hate? All that would bring him would be pain.
>Why would he want to care and hate? All that would bring him would be pain.
Being an apostle yourself, you probably wouldn't get it even if I 'explained' it to you.
Is that what you believe the essence of a human is?
Being Human is about choosing to live. It's also about choosing when to die.
Sometimes death doesn't coming willingly, but at the end, if you cry out for life than you're no better than a beast howling in its final moments.
>Being Human is about choosing to live. It's also about choosing when to die.
You lost me
>if you cry out for life than you're no better than a beast howling in its final moments
So the exact opposite of what guts says it is?
>So the exact opposite of what guts says it is?
Blackswordsmen arc was all about Guts being more monstrous than any apostle.
Have we ever seen Guts begging for his life before?
You know, a human is more likely to beg for it's life than a beast
I'm pretty sure they're not even capable of doing it
If thats her knee then his dick is extremely small. Its most likely her lower back. Either way the anatomy is way off
Nah dude, the thing you think is her leg is actually her torso, not the other way around
Yeah i continued reading the post and i see now. Thought it was doggie when its actually missionary
>You will never hold hands with Guts in the missionary position
>You will never have baby guts sit on your face
>Guts will never ask you to draw him like one of your French girls
>You will never pinch his naughty nipple
Woah there tane
It's actually an obese leg and he's banging the patella
>Guts will never go down on you and give you the licking of a lifetime
I think at this point I should just pack up, move to /fit/ and find me a nice Guts to make fuck with. It's the only way.
>the old lickaroo
>Nips are still drawing Guts in drag while western artists draw him as the saddest motherfucker alive
He's more like Chad the chinny chink
I'd still let him fuck me.
They all used to be such qts.
You can't just put chaika face on everything!
just try and stop me faggot
Griffithfags are the worst, worse than Cascafags
Why do people only draw Griffith in his human form. I need fucking pictures of Femto and I cant find any good one help
Are you checking both the Griffith and the Femto tags on sites or what
He got slapped by Rickert.
>tfw no dark and edgy manga to read
can't find anything like berserk
It's pretty good.
The anime is also good but skips the historical narration for quick cut brutal action. If you already read the manga, it becomes pretty amazing that the inner thinking actually happens in those few slip seconds before someone gets killed.
actually looks fun
You should read the manga over the anime.
The anime stops halfway.
It's still good though but the manga is longer.
There's also a part that makes no sense that you should skip and the editor even mentions where to skip since it makes no fucking sense and isn't even related to the story.
If the anti-crist existed Griffith fags would defend it.
Der Antichristo is NOT one person!