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And the cycle continues, as the flames fade, and only dark remains.

The law of cycles.
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DS2 fucking sucked story-wise.
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>>115343540
Neither DS1 or DS2 had clear story lines.
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>>115343593
I never said anything about them not being clear. That's actually one of the reasons why DS1's story was so good.

DS2's level design was shit too.
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Fuck off rodent
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is coobie behind ds2's story

what a monster
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>dark lord ending
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It's not like it matters, if you don't link the fire someone will eventually do it.
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>>115343540
DS2 fucking sucked FULL STOP
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>>115344013
It has dark souls pvp, it's not all bad.
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Souls games suck, anyway. You can just hug the bosses, strafe left or right depending on the boss and you can beat them while only receiving chip damage.
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hah tricked
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>>115344114
PvP that got even more hackers than DaS1, yep.
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>>115344114
Sure it has pvp, in fucking Iron Keep only.
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>>115344013
These. It's a shame naming it a Souls game.
Luckily enough, there's Bloodborne.
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>>115344574
Bloodbourne is going to be shit too
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>>115344013
It's kinda sad that the only thing I really appreciated about it was the faster ladder climbing.
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>>115344656
I'm not goint to give judgements on it before playing and finishing it at least once, or twice, if there's still NG+. I did the same with DaS2, after all.
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Dark Souls 2 wasn't a bad game, even if it feels weaker than the first game. It's still my GOTY2014 and I'm at 400 hours. To be fair I can't get mad at a game with cestus powerstance.
Bloodborne looks great but I can't in good conscience buy a console for just one game.
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>>115344013
I liked the ancient dragon fight. it's probably the only fight I've ever experienced where you have to do everything absolutely perfect or you die. I ended up fighting him naked with a Lightning Greatsword and a Gyrm Shield. I finally beat him after he killed me 87 times. I lost 300,000 souls in the process. After I finally acquired the last Giant's soul from him I went and fought Vendrick who I killed in two tries because he swINGS HIS SWORD ABOVE YOU WHEN YOU ROLL SO YOU CAN DODGE HIM 100% OF THE TIME WHICH MEANS I DIDN'T NEED ANY OF THE GIANTS SOUL'S AND COULD OF JUST SPENT HALF AN HOUR FIGHTING HIM INSTEAD OF THE FOURTEEN IT TOOK ME TO BEAT THE ANCIENT DRAGON GODDAMMIT VENDRICK I HATE YOU SO FUCKING MUCH YOU FUCKING WEAKASS PIECE OF SHIT!
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>>115345573
so you're dumb
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>>115344816
Fuck off Woolie.
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>>115345610
Yes I expected the Vendrick fight to be amazing but instead I got one of the worst bosses in the game.
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>>115345714
he was drained/left behind of all his cool shit

him being a giant hollow is thematically appropriate
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>>115344013
It was as good as Dark Souls 1. Has worse PvE and much better PvP, the only thing that keeps replayability high.
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I played the first game for the first time in a while and noticed this for the first time. The butterfly just chills on top of the castle.
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>>115346962
Yep. Dark souls 1 has some of the best skyboxes in any game. I remember the first time I saw ceaseless I thought "goddammit I don't want to fuck with that".
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>>115347337
Oh, I know. I felt that way too. I remember seeing the Steel Golem behind the mist door in Sen's Fortress, knowing that it was going to wreck my shit. The biggest scare was the entrance to the end of the Depths, with the Gaping Dragon. Biggest scare I've had in a video game, that's for sure.

If you look into the distance, you can see the door to Havel.
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I liked the powerstance and all that things
fuck soul memory
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>>115347337
What is your picture? I'm looking at it but I have no idea what I'm looking at. It's disturbing.
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Dark Souls 2 doesn't have those little things that add together to make the game that much greater. Shit doesn't feel interconnected at all and you just kinda roam around in entirely different areas with no sense of transition.
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>>115347639
I was told it's what's below the hydra after you kill it.
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>>115347739
Goddamn that's unsettling. Giving me the same vibes when I saw the frog-things in the depths for the first time. A sea monster in Dark Souls... It fits.
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>>115347699
Dark Souls II was trying to go with the "exploring a continent" feeling while Dark Souls was simply exploring a kingdom so stuff fits together better in the first one. Dark Souls II could have been a much better game if they tried to give you this giant world feeling better. But then it would have had to have been done by the original team and had have been in development for another year.
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>>115347845
Small ass continent then.
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>>115347547
Havel was a scary motherfucker the first time too.
>fuck the taurus demon lets see whats down stairs
>stairs... stairs...
>is that a black knight?
>oh fuck
>OH FUCK
>try to block
>YOU DIED
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I really wish they just get rid of SM.
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>>115348054
CONSERVATION OF MOMENTUM IS FOR PUSSIES
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>>115348228
I really wish I could get rid of DaS2 from my memory.
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>there are people who genuinely believe that DaS 2 has better PvP than DaS
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Best thing about DaSII were surprisingly the DLC's
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Apparently /a/ doesn't sperg out about video games if it's dark souls.
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>>115349217
dark souls is anime what are you on about m8
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>>115349094
it actually could have been better if they used the level matchmaking instead of SM.
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>>115349280
Yeah. It had some steps forward (like better backstab detection) and some backwards (like the absolutely inexcusably removal of the kick for the bash), but Soul Memory was what completely destroyed any value it could've had.
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I've been doing a soul level 1 DaS1 playthrough recently and it's easily the most fun I've had playing a game since the first time I played DaS.
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>>115346962
>>115347337
>>115347547
The interconnected world and shit like this was the thing that kept me replaying Dark Souls so much. Why did they have to go fuck it up so hard in the DS2?
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>>115349461
B team
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>>115349159
Thinking of buying them
Were they as good as Artorias of the Abyss?
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>>115349582
No but they were alright.
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>>115349461
>we want the Skyrim audience
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>>115349582
No.
But they're much better than the vanilla DS2 game. AotA was the best DLC ever released on any game, ever.
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>>115349461
I love Dark Souls more than Demon's Souls because of that. I get that people love Demon's, I do too, but the world in DS is far and away better. Come on guys, the first time you kicked down the ladder after the red dragon, you were surprised right? It was awesome.

All the cool hidden areas and secrets in the game, pic related, was my favorite part. I didn't know you could do this until recently. Same with the Painted World.
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>>115349217
it's because Fashion Souls is the game-within-the-game and it's all about dressing yourself up to look like (insert generic anime protagonist here)

>>115349094
>>115349461
they fixed poise but not lolphantomrange on katanas

they "fixed" low level twinking but ruined coop-only characters (staying at "x" level/sm on a sunbro for a specific boss is impossible)

they "fixed" invasions by adding multiple confusing covenants that have shitty mechanics for grinding out consumable invasion items

the story is demonstrably worse, the levels are demonstrably worse (with a few exceptions - the DLC being good examples of superbly well done content), pyromancy should scale with souls instead of fai/int avg (it fits the lore), and they really REALLY needed to do more creative shit with weapon attack patterns

>>115349429
SL1 is the only way to play for it to be challenging but still fun instead of horrendously painful and boring and slow (sl2 sorcerer run is the latter)

>>115349582
separately, no, together yes

they have the best levelbuilding and environments in the entire game, some really interesting items, and some interesting enemies

>>115349648
zombie dlc in RDR begs to differ, but AoTA was fucking amazing

>>115349674
you can see the Bed of Chaos from the crow's nest, and you can see Tomb of the Giants from Lost Izalith
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>>115349582
Don't listen to that dude. The ares themselves are better than the ones in the base game (as in they can actually be interesting to navigate), but they're still infested with the "eight mobs at once is harder, and harder is what the fans want, right??" mentality.

Also most of the bosses are literally the same models from the ones in the base game, with different colors.
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Did I accidentally click on /v/?
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>>115343971
>It's not like it matters, if you don't link the fire someone will eventually do it.

Man you shouldn't even bother with the quest. The Crestfallen Warrior had the right idea about how to be undead, find a comfortable place to sit and be a high fantasy NEET until you go mad.
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>>115349674
Truly, the Halo of RPGs if its time.
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>>115349714
>you can see the Bed of Chaos from the crow's nest
How?
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>>115349674
While I love Demon's Souls and it's my favourite from the series, I found the worlds of both Demon's Souls and Dark Souls quite boring and dull, specially Dark Souls.

The reason I prefer DeS is mostly because of the characters and how you can interact with some of them. Also the way the Arch Demon fights weren't just average boss fight but tried to achieve something else.
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>>115349860
standing at the next looking down toward the fire, look to your right and far, far down

see that bigfuckoffhuge tree down there? that's the top of the Bed of Chaos

people have extracted the level maps and proved how all of the areas interconnect and shit, it's pretty cool
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That crown thing was a real "fuck you" and whoever thought it was good should be given only 1% of their salary.
Especially since you have to fucking fight at least 5 bosses from all three DLC to get back the ability.
R.I.P. gif related too.
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Don't forget that Souls was inspired by Berserk and Artorias is a tribute to Guts.
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>>115349674

If you ignore some rough places where it looks like the game was rushed (basically anywhere past the lordvessel) the area design in Dark Souls is masterful.
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>>115344013
This guy gets it.
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Reminder that Alonne did nothing wrong and you slaughtered him just because of a fucking magic trinket letting you go back into the past, thus ruining everything for the OIK forever.
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>>115349868
>Arch Demon fights weren't just average boss fight but tried to achieve something else

Astraea ;_;
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>>115349714

The blue covenants would work fine if from added an actual easy to get invasion orb.

It's like they designed the game around constant invasions and then made it a pain in the ass to invade.
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>>115349947
Is this it?

>>115349868
Yeah, that's a good point. I hope they do something with Demon's Souls, maybe an update for PS4. It needs some quicker loading times.
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>>115350075
>>115350075
the blue covenants should be merged, and ranks within both red and blue should be related to how many times you successfully invade/defend instead of fucking retarded pointless arena bullshit that nobody would ever do if they didn't have to

>>115350007
Tomb of the Giants was great (arguably intended to be visited after the lordvessel), as was Duke's.

Izalith was rough. Crystal Caves were rough.
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>>115350184
yeah
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>tfw no deep sea thriller/horror anime
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>>115350212
Izalith was nice for letting you fight a horde of taurus demons at the same time and style on them.
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>>115350307
That was the Demon Ruins, not Lost Izalith

Demon Ruins was a fun area.
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>>115350212
I understand calling Crystal Caves rough, but Lost Izalith was completely inexcusable.

>tons of mobs here...
>then a straight line with a lot of mobs...
>copy pasted boss
>straight line with nothing
>actual cool boss!
>straight line with lots of mobs
>worst boss in the game

The team should be spared of our anger though, this is completely From's fault because they wanted to release the fucking game as soon as possible. As to be expected from the guys who caused DaS 2.
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>>115350367
Christ those things were horrifying
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>>115350070
My thoughts exactly. ;_;
Also I was quite impressed with the Dragon God fight. I love fighting huge ass bosses.
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>>115350422
>this is completely From's fault

God damn, I meant to say NAMCO here. The post is retarded as it was made.
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>>115350422
I thought From wanted another year but the publisher forced their hand

imagine if they'd had time to flesh out Izalith and the entire Shiva storyline

>>115350447
the Bompers? easy red chunks

>>115350422
Admittedly I didn't play until they'd already patched the xbox-huge aggro radius on the dragon asses, but I actually didn't find it all that hard or boring of a run

sure it was a really linear level but the architecture was reasonably interesting and there was decent loot around
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>>115350367
>>115350447

Is it just me or that area had a Lovecraft-ish feeling to it?
Some of those demons designs gave me that impresion.
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Go to /v/ you shit crossboarder scums
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>>115350533
>I thought From wanted another year but the publisher forced their hand

Exactly, I merely typed out the wrong name. I corrected myself here >>115350460

>>115350533
>imagine if they'd had time to flesh out Izalith and the entire Shiva storyline

The world was not ready, Anon.
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>>115350613
this..
underrated post..
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The first time I saw this guy I was expecting a boss battle, so I ran and geared up only to find it was just a story progression.
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>>115350613
>>115350733
Ew no, I'd rather not discuss video games with retards.
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>>115350184
>>115350277
thats not the bed of chaos

that the top of the tree that leads to ashen lake



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