Codecs thread. How does /a/ watch their anime? If you're using VLC (pic related) why do you hate yourself?
Literally, no difference. Do you need autism vision to notice it?
>comparing images in JPEG
> If you're using VLC (pic related) why do you hate yourself?
Hating myself aside, I will always strike a balance between convenience and quality. VLC has better quality than streaming, but is less complicated than the alternatives.
how is installing CCCP more complicated than installing VLC?
i download 1080p cartoons and watch it on a 1080 display. i laugh at your 480p upscaled to 1440p pleb
vlc for life
It's more like you are a dumb ass who refuses to go through MadVR's settings even once despite the boost in quality
You can just get CCCP and then install MadVR once if you are lazy, even the default settings pummel VLC's sad excuse at video rendering.
If you are a freetard then MPV+Wavesynth(Or whatever it is called) still supersedes VLC in every aspect.
Same shit, fuck off.
>Look guys I'm blind!
Autism. This is like saying you hate the color blue and can't rationally explain why, except for it rustles your austism senses.
The black aren't the same, look closely to shadows
i can't tell the difference
OP is a faggot for using JPEG, but look at the character's outlines.
>Comparing images side by side
At least do it right you massive faggot.
>480 upscale to 1440
See, this is the part I never understood. Do all of you literally have your noses pressed up to the screen to notice this stuff WHILE something's playing? I'm curious.
For context, I actually do use the madvr+ MPC setup and I've been using it for so long that I've long since forgotten any benefit that it used to have. Most of the time I don't even realize it's supposed to be better since I'm just using it to watch shitty encodes weekly.
>Using BE over HC
>LOOK GUYS I BOUGHT A NEW GPU
you waste energy for this?
I watch blurry stuttering raw live streams in 360p.
Oh, have I tried using MPC with MadVR or CCCP or whatever the fuck.
Probably because I have a shitty laptop but with the codecs mentioned above I always experienced either horizontal banding on some colors or poor playback flow, no matter the settings I put in.
Now that I found this thread I'll probably try to reinstall MPC again, drown and struggle myself in the setting for a couple of hours, and then go back to the damn VLC.
Try using MadVR's debanding filter, or maybe you shouldn't use MadVR at all if you are using a toaster
>It's more like you are a dumb ass who refuses to go through MadVR's settings even once despite the boost in quality
Yeah, that's about right.
>If you are a freetard then MPV+Wavesynth(Or whatever it is called) still supersedes VLC in every aspect.
I tried that once. I didn't notice any discernible improvement in quality and it was more complicated than VLC to set up. Also, isn't MadVR free too, so why would you call this the Freetard option?
>VLC has better quality than streaming
Jinc > Spline
BE > HC
MadVR is proprietary, disciples of Stallman don't see it as free as in freedom.
Jinc is much better.
What does BE have over HC?
Ah, I see what you mean, but you're only going to cause confusion if you keep using "free" in that context on a board where not everybody is a disciple of Stallman.
Nicer UI, preview on seekbar, integrates nicely with XySubFilter.
Slightly worse quality and occasional video fucking up aside, the main reason I switched from VLC to MPC-HC is because the former would take up to 10 seconds to load the video when skipping forward and even more if you were to skip backwards.
How do I know if MadVR is using my GPU?
>People seriously argue about the codecs they use to watch their fucking anime, fucking anime, a very serious hobby only for gentlemen and scholars, indeed
As long as it doesn't look like 360p shit, who the fuck cares?
Do you hate yourself deep down inside and desperately want to die or something? This is just embarrassing.
What are the alternatives to MadVR and CCCP?
I don't want to be a VLC scrub anymore with its video fuckups and all
I've heard MPV+Wavesynth ebing recommended before.
>needing to upsample
I can't tell the difference with the shadows and shit, I can't even tell which one is supposed to be better, let alone different. VLC worked fine, I switched to MPC and didn't notice a big difference other than slightly less fucked up colors within the first 2 seconds of video. The people who care enough to get the tiniest bit of quality is hilarious. Would you have a heart attack if you watched something in 1078p or something and had to scale it up to 1080p?
VLC always looks a little flat colour wise for me
left vlc, right mpc+madvr
Are you retarded? jpg is great for images, though manga fares better with png due to the lineart.
Nothing for me then, since I always use it in fullscreen mode.
Are you? jpg is lossy. You want lossless format for comparisons.
THAT a see a difference in. Not a huge difference, but I could at least understand someone switching video players because of it. The shadow or lines shit OP is stressing about it pure autism.
It also lets you set saved image compression level.
It's upscaled from the uncompressed source. It's the highest quality upscale possible.
fuck all this autism. i just stream
I did notice a lot of things.
First, files open really faster for me in mpc, the seek bar doesn't fuck up with the video as it does in vlc.
The subtitle rendering and other options for less cpu usage are necessary for me.
>Fuck using good quality just because some people take it too far
>I'll use the worst possible method instead of just downloading the first decent stuff I see, which will be much higher quality than any possible stream
Except it's been upscaled with bilinear, which can be reversed. Then you can apply better scaling algorithm during playback.
I switched from VLC to CCCP about 3 months ago, and I'm liking it. The quality is sometimes a lot better but other times not noticeable at all. I don't know enough about video rendering and codecs to figure out why. It was never really about the quality for me. I switched because VLC started acting up like this >>115339563
one day and I just had to find some alternative.
Can't you guys use a fucking proper way of comparing screenshots?
There's hardly any difference. MPC is just a LITTLE bit brighter.
I agree with the seek bar thing, but the only time I touch anything is to skip OP and ED I've already seen and don't like. My CPU sucks too (from 2006 or so) but I don't run shit in the background when I stream so CPU usage from subs never mattered much. I never really compared file opening speed, it's maybe 2 seconds either way, so I don't care much.
No. VLC looks much worse. Look at the tones closely. The colors in MadVR blend a lot smoother.
I realize this is something you probably won't notice ever, unless you pause it and look at it close. And I don't really give a shit if you use VLC, but there is a difference.
Uh, that file I posted looks a fuckworld better than the one OP posted. Bilinear from source is still from fucking source. It's like you're upscaling a Jpeg when I'm upscaling a Png.
That's the problem with me since I have my Chink cloud in the background uploading everything I ever had.
I use vlc for some streams though.
Good upscaling from high quality jpg can be easily better than shitty upscaling from png.
>I realize this is something you probably won't notice ever, unless you pause it and look at it close.
Makes me wonder why people complain about this so much.
Ok, even I could see the banding on the right of that VLC screenshot there.
There's literally a solid block of dark jaggies and squares right there, how can you not see it?
Looks totally the same to me
Why do people do side by side comparisons like this to talk about video quality? You have to move back and forth between them and you lose all points of reference and forget what the other one looked like along the way. VLC is shit, but this is dumb. Stop doing this.
Post the first screenshot and say what it is. Post the comparison and say what it is. Then you can just tab between the two back and forth and see differences right away.
Then the question should be, which of those uses less resources.
>high quality jpg
Yeah, except you're comparing an upscaled mp4 file, not a high quality jpeg. I mean, if you have the actual DVD in 480p, then your upscale is going to be very high quality, but it's still not source. And to say that the source is a simple bilinear upscale is false. The source has a higher resolution to begin with, unless it was rendered to 480p and they didn't use the source files, which cheaper studios will inevitably do.
It does sort of bug me, knowing that I'm watching something that doesn't look as good as it can. Even if I don't actively notice it. I guess I'm just (sub?)consciously looking for bad looking images, and it takes me out of the series. Of course, I can just tell myself to ignore the feeling, but still.
Time to get a new computer!
>If you pause, press your face against the screen and try real hard you might notice a difference
This image is a true masterpiece. The guy who made it was destined for greatness. Probably living it up in LA right now.
If streams actually looked that bad, I'd still advocate piracy.
But they fucking don't. If you torrent what you could stream, you're a shit.
Nigger are you serious
Not to mention the fact that it doesn't look like total shit, downloading the cartoons has plenty of other advantages over streaming them.
What are you even talking about? What mp4 file?
TTGL BDs are simple bilinear 720p > 1080p upscale, which can be reversed using proper filtering. If you download good 720p rips and upscale them using decent player, they'll look better than 1080p rips.
I use MPC-HC with SVP for frame interpolation
I use VLC and rarely have issues at all. Those VLC graphic bugs are a thing of the past. I found one of them, checked in MPC and it still did the same shit.
I also checked one of those screenshot comparisons of the Fate prologue, also fake. VLC's screenshots are just garbage. While watching it's just fine.
The only thing it can not do is mix surround down to stereo.
Every time I look again, thinking I've captured every nuance, a new subtlety makes itself known to me.
I'm not talking about upscaling of a 720p, we were talking 480p.
>downloading the cartoons has plenty of other advantages over streaming them
Like not supporting the people who made the damn thing in any way! Fuck off, scum.
As a patriotic American I refuse to use a player called CCCP or subs by commie. I a fucking freedom loving patriot, not Marxist faggot!
How does streaming it support the people who made it in any way?
>Torrent in sequential order
>Watch while downloading
It's essentially streaming but in higher quality. Any you can decide whether or not to keep it after you're done.
I don't understand why people don't do this.
>I'm not talking about upscaling of a 720p, we were talking 480p.
And? You're still an idiot for downloading 1080p release of TTGL.
>MadVR crashes MPCHC 2/3 times
Anyone else getting these issues with a GTX970? Performance is rather shit too, I'm guessing it's a driver thing.
>How does streaming it support the people who made it in any way?
I watched TTGL on HULU. HULU paid for the rights to stream the show. This money goes back to the company that paid for the US rights, which ultimately leads to better deals for the content creators in Japan in the future. They get money, I watch some ads.
Then I downloaded the whole series because fuck streaming anything twice.
>I don't understand why people don't do this.
Because it's piracy when you have a perfectly valid other option. I only pirate what I must because I have a conscious.
>You're still an idiot for downloading 1080p release of TTGL
I'm an idiot for DLing the highest bitrate I could find? You do realize how retarded that sounds, right?
You are on 4chan, if you are talking about software and freedom, everyone knows what you are talking about unless you are from /b/.
>I'm an idiot for DLing the highest bitrate I could find?
Yes. And you do realize you should fuck off to whatever shithole you are from?
>Like not supporting the people who made the damn thing in any way! Fuck off, scum.
Are you implying crunchyroll supports the industry
That's right! Don't give in to those commie bastards
>crunchyroll supports the industry
>Crunchyroll is funded by The Chernin Group and TV Tokyo
There's a very clear difference, look at the edges of their hair, VLC has more pixellation.
Honestly, if crunchy had an option for me to pay to download a file I can play on my own player, I'd jump on board in an instant.
But they don't, so viva piracy.
LITERALLY no difference.
Generations before us wasted energy for more stupid reasons.
In what sense using more than necessary is a valid counter argument?
Pretty sure you can rip the streams if you want with rtmdump. Or use Keepvid.
For whatever reason I've also had lot of crash issues recently with CCCP + MadVR. Only happens when I'm pausing the video though. Tried reinstalling, but didn't seem to help.
When it began, CrunchyRoll posted episodes subbed by fansubbers on their site and charged people to watch them. They are pieces of shit in my book. I will be dambed before I give Crunchy a cent of my money (or even a page view for ad revenue).
It's been added in the latest build of HC.
Anybody here used PotPlayer? I like it a lot. It was designed less for functionality and more for a superior viewing experience. MPC-HC is usually faster and easier to use, and so I usually use that, but PotPlayer plays those 15GB 1080p films with 7-channel surround sound FLAC quite well. Really nice for watching physical media too.
What are the suggested additional filters and splitters for the best anime watching experience.
I recall reading a guide in the past about the subject, but I can't seem to find it anymore.
Try Nyaa's guide, I think it's up to date.
Ah, that's the guide I was looking for.
I watch streams. They are just cartoons anyways.
If I watch my animu from a Nexus 5 on MX player what can I do to get the best anime watching experience?
>downloading 480 at all, ever
If space is REALLY that much of an issue just delete the episode afterwards.
What is wavesynth? I can't find this shit on google?
Why is madVR 32 bit only? Who still uses 32 fucking bits?!
this guy gets it
sadly this guys doesn't