So we watch Shoujo for the pretty girls and the drama, r-right?
10/10 alpha male
You mean 0/10? Alpha males protect, not bully.
>implying he doesn't protect her
You mean boys?
Fuck off, shoujo is boring gay romance shit for girls.
Why would I watch that?
Because some of the best anime are shoujo.
How is he able to protect anyone with that shitty Auschwitz body?
Dude is shaped like a twig.
I watch it for the infrequent iggy references
No, shoujo is shit and so is your taste.
For the rape
Watch good anime.
I do, that's why I don't watch shoujo.
Nigga I would fuck him over, what the hell?
She got a great day for fucking free.
>Easy to get shallow bitch
>lose interest in her
>"It hurts her feelings"
>get punched by some faggot
Clearly you don't.
Holy fuck do I love this series, solid 6/10 happytime.
For the pretty girls
That girl is ugly though.
how is this show going to end?
>every guy and girl in school bullies Erika until graduation
>Erika finds "true love" with a guy who breaks her phone in half, flicks her forehead, and drenches with rain water
>love by bullying
I don't even know why Shoujo is perceived as a bad genre, I think its pretty okay at times but you do get the odd series that makes you question things.
I do anyway.
I have a question about this show though. It's not listed as a romance or a drama. Is this true? From some of these pictures, it doesn't look like a comedy at all.
If I know anything about this genre it's that hate flags and love flags are completely interchangeable.
Shoujo , or any anime/manga romance for that matter , is only good if the main boy is as good as the main girl. See: Kazehaya from Kimi ni todoke or Haruka from Tonari no kaibutsu kun. Both of them are really cute in their own ways and it's adorable to see them with the main girls. 10/10 would date if i were a cute 2d girl
He's completely right though, males don't watch shoujo and have no reason to.
[ ] every guy and girl in school bullies Erika until graduation
[ ] Erika finds "true love" with a guy who breaks her phone in half, flicks her forehead, and drenches with rain water
[x] True love
Get the fuck out.
Epic maymay hambeast.
I think mostly gay males, females, and bisexual male trolls watch shoujo.
For this reason I tend to avoid it.
I'm not saying I hate the genre or anything, its just not aimed at what I want to see in my daily dose of media. I did like kimi ni Todake and Chihayafuru but don't see myself investing any more time into something that only mildly entertains me.
I've only had a couple relationships with girls, non of which were in the last few years and trying to connect to romantic stories of attraction like this just dont perk my neet interests. I mean, all /a/ does is talk about how they are kissless virgins, why dedicate a lot of your time and passion talking about relationships you are growing too old to experience?
I WISH I had love octagons in highschool but that time has long passed. I guess I would watch some shoujo every now and then to try and experience things I'm never going to. Nothing more.
Don't bother with shoujo anon.
It's not aimed at us, so it will always seem like complete shit to you and me.
>males don't watch shoujo
Plenty of males watch shoujo. Half of Precure's watchers are men.
>not knowing that /a/ is full of little girls
You disgust me, reddit trash.
I grew out of love a few years ago, I don't see how shoujo could interest me in any way.
Is that where you're from, fatty?
I just like romantic stories.
Chihayafuru is josei anyway.
Are you so afraid of liking girly things?
Back to reddit, faggot.
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I just don't like it.
I don't watch romance anime in general, with like one exception.
Then just say you have no reason to watch shoujo,
>not reading/watching good works no matter the demographic
But I did?
That's even worse.
Watch non-romance shoujo.
Fuck off, babaa.
Absolutely no shoujo is good.
Also, the love/hate interchangeable flags are also true for tsundere, aren't they?
It's funny now that I think about it, females are portrayed essentially the same way in works aimed at men and women. The same weak, spineless, virginal doormats. I guess shonen/seinen makes them more slutty but that's about it.
Stop repeating yourself, attention seeker-kun.
That's a generality, but it's because female are rarely the center of the story in shounen. When they are, if one of the people from the staff doesn't fuck up, the girl is bound to be useful.
And while it's kind of sad, I think it makes stories where the female protagonists have êrsonnality and stand up on their own all the more enjoyable.
But I haven't got any explication about why the shoujo heroines are useless. Maybe because the focus of the story is actually the male interest?
Ahhhh, the privileges of being a female!
Sounds like you eat a lot of shit
That episode was weird. She thinks about finding a nice guy to fall in true love with, finds him, and then it turns out his nice guy routine is an act and he just berates and insults her. Her "hero" is the guy that literally calls her dog and seeks to train her.
I mean, I like the show, but it feels like there's some weird subtext going on. Does this mean that whenever I'm friendly to women, they think I'm just putting on an act?
Its a sex thing, anon.
Domiance and shit.
amazing how many beta men fail to realize this simple fact.
I'm a gay female and I enjoy some shoujo. Such as:
- Semi realistic romances such as Nodame Cantabile
- Standard yet enjoyable high school shoujo such as Toradora, Ouran Host Club
- Magical girl played straight (ok, haven't actually delved into this genre much but I'm slowly watching Sailor Moon)
- Magical girl stories with a twist: Madoka, Utena
- 70s shoujo with DRAMA, freeze frames, lesbians and knife fights: Oniisama E
- Yuri: Marimite, Strawberry Panic
Things I don't like:
- when there's a romance and both parties already know they like each other but a lot of bullshit happens and it's drawn out forever anyway
- misunderstandings that could be cleared up if one person just talked to the other
-abusive guy characters who the girl falls for anyway. Unless it's somehow not done terribly (see: the reverse of this in Fullmetal Panic).
TLDR: I enjoy romance not because I want to go back to high school but because it's escapist fiction. Also, shoujo is not just about romance.
No, it's more to prove that Prince-kun is her twue wuv, while being abusive.
It aims to show she'll never be able to find a guy who'll like her by her own mean out of this thing they have together. Furthermore,since he saves her, it show the beginning of the reform the girl started in him. It's to make the reader/watchers who don't like him think he's not only a dickbag, or at least not the biggest dickbag ou there.
Pretty great taste overall though.
Most of those aren't shoujo
We have daily threads on whether or not shoujo is shit but hardly ever have threads for the various shoujo manga we are reading and enjoying. Seems strange to me.
Abusive guys are totally going out of fashion; now even the tsunderes are betamax. See: Tomoe in Kamisama Kiss, Hak in Akatsuki no Yona. Even the creator of the king of abusive guys in Hana Yori Dango has only done betamax guys lately.
Well, fuck it. Um... I guess I need to watch more shoujo. As I was writing that I was thinking of romance shows I'd seen and conflated a couple of those with shoujo, which they weren't.
I forgot to mention Nana, though. That was probably my first shoujo.
its just another buzzword. You should know by now that /a/ is terribly afraid of accidentaly liking something somebody else could like. Even more if this hypothetical other could be a woman, a man with a job, a man who got laid at least once in his life, sombody who visited reddit, /co/, /v/ or MAL or various others.
That's Josei as well.
You should check out Princess Tutu, Basara, Rose of Versailles, Cardcaptor Sakura...
Son of a bitch. You're right, it was published by Cookie which is a josei magazine. God dammit.
Well, I guess I have no point now since I haven't read or watched as much shoujo as I thought I had. I have seen Princess Tutu (it was good, not as perfect as Utena though) and definitely want to check out Rose of Versailles because Oniisama E was amazing. Cardcaptor Sakura looks like one of the better magical girl shows as well.
Roses of Versailles' author did other stories in the same vein (a really long one shot which title I have forgotten comes to my mind) with women impersonnating men.
Comparing things to Utena is just not fair. I still think Princess Tutu is high up there.
Most of CLAMP's manga are essentials. xxxHOLiC is my personal favorite.
Just like real life !
Shoujo readers confirmed for redditors.
Get the fuck out.
I don't see any car commercials.
Fucking women on my /a/, stop ruining my day.
You have your own boards, fucking stick to them and stop polluting this one.
>Because she's cute, she was ostracized by her female friends in junior high, and because of a misunderstanding, she couldn't get her feeling across to the one boy she has ever liked,
I felt like puking the first time i read the synopsis
>That one disctinct shitposter in every shoujo thread
How do you feel about Akatsuki no Yona? The anime has been 7/10 enjoyable so far.
I think its shit
It's shoujo after all.
Yona development when?
We watch it so we can see that superficial slut get the abuse she deserves.
I dropped it at episode two.
I drop it every week
Ignore and report it. Giving him attention is what he wants.
>shitposting without backing up arguments
Sounds like typical Shoujo to me. Used to them all being 5/10s that become 10/10s after taking off glasses at this point anyway.
Why do idiots always feel the need to project the actions of single characters on the whole of society?
I never know who's worse. The people who think "alpha" means being a dick, or the people who use "alpha" as an excuse for being a pushover.
Probably the people who seriously use stuff like "alpha" and "beta".
How can an alpha proof his manlyness if he doesn't abuse of weaklings?
Peasants have to take care of what they say or do, especially on a vertical society like Japan, the elite can do whatever they want and never pay for it.
Illiterate retard, go read a book.
Same as spoiler, I'm more surprised than I thought I would be. Especially since you also know Onii-sama e..., that had a completely unsatisfying ending.
Is the anime better than the manga?
Do we even get dark shoujo like Onii-sama e anymore? All the dark stuff for women seem take the Josei demographic now.
Diabolik Lovers was pretty dark.
Go to read shoujo mangas.
I'd prefer something that isn't a 1/10. How about a 6 or higher?
But Ball Lick Rubbers was 8/10 comedy of the year.
Oh, I don't know then, sorry.
Why does every shoujo look like this.
What does /a/ think of Wallflower?
Is it even a shoujo I just remember the name and the dramatical mc.
Because the target audience loves it and the artists aren't encouraged to try new styles but to stick to what it sells
Same reason why all the moeblobs look the same.
Women can't draw and copy other shoujo manga in order to make their own.
Women are allowed to try diferent styles when they aren't working on shoujo magazines. Also, they receive a bigger salary and bigger chances of getting an anime adaptation
What does /a/ think of this shoujo manga?
Aria is shounen
I never read the manga.
Not that I know of.
You're just blind.
Actually, that mangaka ompeltely changed her style.
Episode 5; it's also by a competent animation team.
what the fuck did you say faggot?
Okay, thread-chan, which shoujo has your favorite character(s)?
Banana Pudding girl is mai waifu.
My favorite shoujo era is the early 80's when everything was surreal and weird as shit. Better than the later melodrama.
Does anyone else think they enjoy shoujo only because they like the idea of teenage girls watching it and getting all hot and bothered when they imagine being emotionally and physically dominated?
Also am I a bad person?
Ouran. All of them but the MC are sterotypes but for a good reason. The mangaga is able to break them all out of the sterotype and make all of them fun. Kyoya a best boy. Haruhi a cute. I could watch Ouran every month and never tire of it.
>Does this mean that whenever I'm friendly to women, they think I'm just putting on an act?
Many, unfortunately. But continue being your nice self and you will hopefully find a girl who genuinely likes you for being a nice person.
RGU, definitely. All the girls are best girls, they're so beautifully layered and complex(as are the males, but I don't particularly like any of them). You don't see that much in anime.
Didn't the manga become shit, thereby making the anime better?
I only read the last chapter. Good ending.
Is there a quintessential shoujo pure romance manga? It's always portrayed this way in parodies, but I haven't read much that would qualify.
It is also shoujo
Going by the magazines, Aqua is shoujo while Aria is shounen. But both have a pretty wide appeal, so it doesn't really matter.
It's not shoujo, man.
It's got decent swordfights, a believable villain, and the fag dies in the first episode.
>It's not shoujo
Yes it is.
Don't worry, you'll get a harem of bland cliche bishounen soon.
Best generic shoujo design right here
Who's this semen demon?
so far it's not. It's got me interested in it.
You might be right. I haven't read it so I don't know what happens, but the two important guys shown so far seem interesting enough.
>so far it's not
That's not how it works. It's published in a shoujo magazine, it's shoujo.
You should know this goofy looking bitch
What the fuck
but damn he does have nice hips
It's the patriarchy. No kidding.
There are plenty of shoujo manga in which the main character is a totally ordinary and plain girl who has is surrounded by bishounen in love with her. Those exist for wish-fulfillment fantasies and are easily dismissed as trash.
I can generally identify that sort of manga pretty quickly, so I spend my time reading good shoujo manga instead.
>plain person for some reason is surrounded by attractive members of the opposite sex
That sounds so familiar
The fuck do youh ave against wish-fulfillment nigger? It makes for the best stories. Stories that don't move me are trash.
Seriously why are ALL shoujo like this? Are all female masochists or something?
Natsume. Natsume is objectively the best shoujo.
"Nice guys" are boring. Privileged douchebags above everyone else, including teachers and other authority figures are specials, what made the female lead special. Nip women are used to live through their husbands, a douchebag treating other people like shit means that his woman is better than other women.
It's an universal truth not just nip women. Daily reminder that this got successful and not your shitty beta.
I watch shoujo occasionally, because shoujo generally has kissing and dating, which most seinen, shounen, and anime original romance don't have. The problem with shoujo is that it lacks busty heroines and action.
Western female writers kinda try to pretend their S&M fetish is actually consensual, even 50 Shades of Grey does. Shoujo writers don't give a shit about the female lead's opinion
lol this content wouldn't be the least surprising to anyone lurking /a/.
OY VEY WHAT IS THIS RAPE CULTURE
Well betas are boring, unispiring pieces of shit, that don't make me feel actually wanted and don't make me feel needed. I reject them too. I'd accept a beta only if he understood his place as the money provider and didn't get in the way of my having sex with actually attractive men. Alpha fucks, beta bucks.
Nigger please, stop making it shit up.
Anyway women love it so I don't see how your btiching is going to change shit, other than pissing more women off.
I wish you were a real women and not a butthurt permavirgin. Such brutal honestly is refreshing on the PC tiranny.
If I watch enough shoujo and incorporate the personality traits and behaviors of all the lead males into my daily life, will I get all the pussy when I go to Japan?
I am a real woman anon.
Isn't this thread about pissing off women?
Every shoujo thread is.
Nope because you're an ugly gaijin probably living in your parents's basement, not a male model who happen to be a millonaire. If you act like a shoujo male lead, you'll go to jail or a local yakuza will take care of you.
The more you make women unsatisfied and frustrated the more wish-fulfilling shoujo you'll get.
If you betas just shut up and accepted your role as betas, there wouldn't be no need for wish-fulfilling anymore. :^)
I like shoujo heroines because they get a lot more character development. Not that many other places you see girls as MCs, and female characters in shounen are often too one-dimensional or serve as plot devices.
Maybe it's because I get attracted to personality a lot, but I don't get why you need to like guys to like shoujo. (Provided, of course, that the MC isn't a perpetually indecisive, annoying cunt, which is sadly too common.) I've searched like heck for fap fodder of shoujo leads only to find no one draws non-yaoi doujins of them. And every now and then a shoujo's a big enough hit to actually produce a semi-decent amount of fapbait.
Alpha males are the minority though and not all betas are social rejects like the average anon. I don't know, maybe the best system would be polyamorous relationships centered on an alpha male, like apes do.
They aren't. It's rare to have anything worse than a tsundere or a character with complex motivations for starting off as a jerk, from what I've seen.
Polyamory doesn't work because women are jealous and possessive. Unless you put them bitches in a harem where they are exclusively to obey the alpha's order but that would be MUH PATRIARCHY
OY VEY MORE RAPE CULTURE
THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR RAPE AND ABUSE!!!!!!!!
Post-90s shoujo mangas are mainly like this though.
You caught me, I haven't read much since the early 2000s. Watched some stuff that got animated but I don't think I completed an actual shoujo manga since Furuba.
Technically, that solution removes humanity in general. It's a throw back to the natural state so it's based on the idea that reason can't defeat the natural insticts, basic human rights are a contradiction to nature.
I like shoujo but this one is shit
>reason can't defeat the natural instict
If the natural instinct doesn't have an outlet such as smut, porn, or anything else that stimulates it in a safe way, it just keeps building and building until it explodes. You gotta find a balance.
Repression has never worked anon.
But without law, your neighbour could kill you just because he wants your TV and nobody would give a shit
Is OP the same landwhale who keep spamming her shoujo shit thread everyday.
Hopefully the mods catch on that these threads are thinly veiled tumblr threads full of attentionwhoring women and requests for manga and anime recommendations every 3 to 5 posts.
>implying that's not what happens in every black neighbourhood
Anyway I was talking at a psychological level. I don't understand why amerifats understand this concept when applied to violence but become ultra-backwards when it comes to sex. See modern feminism.
Does it bother anyone else that there are so many beta white knights on /a/?
/a/ pretends to be disinterested in that kind of stuff, but then whenever a shoujo with an alpha male lead gets brought up, /a/ turns fedora and starts saying shit like
>OMG THAT'S SUCH AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP
>THIS IS RAPE
>WHY DO GIRLS LIKE ASSHOLES LIKE THIS
Because why don't girls like nice guys like me.
It's surprising the amount of hate Shoujo shows get. Aren't we all little girls here?
>/a/ is one person
So much shoujo/josei hate
The vast majority are basement dwellers wishing to be little girls because they're a self-hating mess wishing to runaway to a safe imaginary world
I'd like shoujo manga more if the girls were cuter. I generally like shoujo love interests, but I want to see them dominating girls with large breasts.
Shut up, Chihaya. Go sucking Taichi's cock.
Watch Cross Ange
I've been finding myself liking shoujos a lot lately, mainly because of the pointless drama.
/a/ has a lot of diverse tastes. It's only natural that some people hate these kinds of shows.
It bother me more how /a/ lose their collective shit at every article about sexism in anime despite the average anon hates women. Shouldn't they support sexism and feel proud of it? Instead, sexism threads become huge circlejerks
If we accept the fact that our entertainment is sexist, we're accepting the fact that there is a problem that needs to be fixed. The next thing you know, we can no longer enjoy the anime we enjoy, because feminists in Japan are calling it "problematic" and censoring it.
The fact of the matter is that anime really isn't sexist, or at least not in a bad way. It's okay for boys to have wish-fulfillment fiction with cute girls who fawn over self-inserts and constantly need to be protected. There's nothing wrong with that, even a little bit.
I like how easy it is spot women posting in these threads.
They really do post like outsiders and try so hard to fit in, that they easily slip like yourself.
>It's okay for boys to have wish-fulfillment fiction with cute girls who fawn over self-inserts and constantly need to be protected. There's nothing wrong with that, even a little bit.
Actually, it's a side-effect of the fucked up Japanese culture. At least most teen girls move on from their crappy shoujoshit. Hell, recently the soccer moms put HYD at the top of a list of mangas that kids shouldn't read, despite those soccer moms made HYD into the best selling shoujo manga ever.
If you want to argue that anime turns boys into virgin shut ins, fine.
But don't start talking about anime or manga as being problematic for women, when it isn't.
I'm not the person you're responding to, but your conversation brings up a valid point about why 100% of yurishit anime is pure cancer. You have to accept the reality that little girls - including all 2D little girls - like boys. When you make them like girls, you're mind-raping them. You're cutting open their skulls, inserting your penis, and ejaculating male sexuality where there should be female sexuality.
A little girl dreams about a handsome prince. A little girl doesn't dream about kissing her girlfriends all day.
>At least most teen girls move on from their crappy shoujoshit
The same soccer moms that made 50 shades a hit?
Well I guess anything smutty is bound to be okay since it's for adults in the first place. That means hentai and yaoi are safe.
>lesbians don't exist
Lesbians are a minority, and they don't act the way your yurishits do, either. Stop copypasting male sexuality onto female characters, jackass.
More like shoujo is only rarely good.
>date a girl that already has a boyfriend
>at the end of the date the boyfriend punches me in the face
>WTF? Why would someone punch me?
Are you just really thick or what?
The girl never said she already had a boyfriend.
But he dated her to get back at the boyfriend in question.
Really thick confirmed.
I thought you were making a general example because that's what happens in real life, not talking about a show I don't watch.
>not talking about a show I don't watch
Oh sorry, I didn't know this was the general example thread. Rev up your bait m8.
I am normally not interested in female characters but I am in love with Esdeath.
You get it.
Nah. I think girls in shounen can be pretty badass.
>100% of yurishit targeted at the male audience is pure cancer
Corrected that for you.
>people on /a/ actually use the terms alpha and beta unironically
Did not mean to quote. Sorry.
Good that I didn't. Makes my conscience always clear.
Taichi a shit. Arata a best
Arata a beta shit
He is still gonna win. Cry more Taichi friends.
Human social behaviour works in exactly the same way as other pack mammals. If you think humans don't have alphas, betas, etc then you are mistaken.
The main mistake /a/ makes is thinking beta means weak. A beta is an enforcer for the alpha. So, it would be that guy who's not the leader of the group, but keeps other people in line so the alpha doesn't have to.
That shit exists just as much in human society as it does in other pack mammals.
Eunuchs are eunuchs for a reason
we don't wanna be eunuchs
Nah, shoujo is targetted AT girls. Not meaning that it HAS girls. There's actually a lot of shoujo manga that's basically 50 Shades of Gray long before 50 Shades.
muh dick. how do i not know of this.
It still is.
Baby's first shoujo with swordfights?
It is a shoujo. It runs in Hana to Yume alone with Kamisama Hajimemashita, Love so Life, Soredemo, Skip Beat, and Oresama Teacher. Thats a shoujo as you can get.
Believe it or not, there are straight men that watch shoujo too, asshole.
>The same soccer moms that made 50 shades a hit?
>Implying those soccer moms are from the US.
> Hell, recently the soccer moms put HYD at the top of a list of mangas that kids shouldn't read
So If I'm really attractive I can treat woman like dogs, right?
Ookami Shoujo wouldn't lie, no?
If you're in high school, yes.
Nice heels, faggot.
I-I never cried for a shoujo
you know full well that shoujo manga has far less genre variety than seinen or shounen manga.
You also know full well that a shoujo manga without a prominent love triangle is rare.
Given this, it's quite reasonable to call shoujo manga a genre, barring a minority of exceptions.
You're a fucking retard if you think love is about cute names and being sweetbirds.
Love it's about putting up with the shit your SO does.
To be fair: "shoujo" means in almost all cases "female oriented romance". That's what people who hear "shoujo manga" expect. There are exceptions, but in most cases those wouldn't be published in a shoujo magazine and thus not be called shoujo manga.
If there were magazines which focussed on male oriented romance, you'd most certainly find a similar lack of variety - 90% involving some sort of nice guy beta, who wouldn't be attractive to girls in real life and be doomed to a life virginity, somehow getting involved in romance.
I'm a straight male and I really liked lovely complex
I feel like I've read the dialogue in that panel, but I can't pinpoint where...
Wait, is that the gender-bender female empress male concubine story?
Quintessential eh... most of the straightforward romances I remember are one-shots, but there are many.
Of the recent ones probably this.