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I don't understand why companies like Crunchyroll and Funimation try so hard to keep business afloat in 'murrika when it's already known that Whiteys don't like anime anymore.

They're better off jumping ship to Asia where it's well loved over there. Anyone with an ounce business sense can see that.
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>>115332923
>anymore
They never liked it much. They should move HQ to Taiwan or Flipland.
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>>115332923
Pretending to be retarded is not funny, anon.
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>>115333014
What's retarded about that? If you looked at viewership numbers on AS, you can clearly see Family Guy reruns get more ratings than the latest episode of Dandy or even Beboop these days.
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They have to appease their new niggaboo demographic. I mean, we have this now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPZDBF0kei0
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>>115333092

>popular things are more popular than less popular things

No shit, retard
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>>115333267
It's not even about that, shit for brains. The point is crackers are more in tune with watching their own cartoons not the strange weird one from Japan. Seriously, get your brain checked.
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>>115333347
It has always been like that.
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>>115333388
You were living under a rock during the bubble period then when big box stores like Best Buy stocked anime front and center.
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>>115332923
is there any actual evidence of anime declining in popularity?
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>>115333766
Licensing companies closing up shop left and right was the start of things going downhill.
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>>115333996
i mean stats/graphs tho
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>>115333996
That has less to do with popularity than it does with business. They were riding a bubble and throwing away money on licensing junk titles and then got raped in the depression following the financial crisis, while at the same time facing a shifting paradigm to streaming vs. video disc ownership.
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Kind of unrelated, but why do licensing companies never put any effort into typesetting/styling?
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>>115334194
You can easily google those up.
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>>115332923
they see america as untapped potential for major profits except bad business decisions and a lack of interest by the american public has barely kept them in positive revenue

if they leave america then that essentially leaves the market open for anyone to come over and succeed where they have failed

so thats why from a business standpoint they haven't moved on to broader horizons at least thats how i see it
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>>115334577
would rather let thread die than put in any work myself, baka OP
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Because they already have the murikan license and know damn well they can't afford the licenses for more profitable markets.
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>>115333456
When was this?
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>>115334844
In the 90s
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>>115334239
Because a majority of the people who buy blu-rays from companies watch the English dub, which doesn't require a lot of typesetting (usually).

On a related note, why do companies like Funimation and Sentai dub a majority of the anime they licensee? The cost of dubbing an anime is usually around 5,000-10,000 USD per episode; wouldn't they make more money if they just dubbed 10% of their shows? I assume their would be a loss of sales, but would sales really drop by 12x(5,000-10,000) for the average series?
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>>115334685
>they see america as untapped potential for major profits
Stupid thinking when it's been known that America is one of the biggest culprits of pirating anime.

>if they leave america then that essentially leaves the market open for anyone to come over and succeed where they have failed
Doubt it. They'll just repeat the same mistakes the old guard have done. The industry is headed mostly by fans who never took anything past Business 101.

It makes more sense for these guys to just cut their losses and resume operations elsewhere. That's a normal procedure for companies when it's shown that they're not making money in a particular territory.
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>>115332923
There is no reason why an internet based company can't have a presence in both regions.
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>>115334951
A lot of piracy means a lot of untapped potential for profit, as long as the country is relatively wealthy. It means the interest is there.
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>>115334951
im going to assume the biggest reason they haven't moved on is because their is no urgency its not like they are losing tons of money each quarter

if the stock value started to plummet and they came to the conclusion that having a branch of their company in america is the direct result of the loss in stock then that would be the tipping point for them
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>>115334920
>12x(5,000-10,000)
Wrong calculation
12x (5000-10000)/(price)
Also, putting up the 12 like purchase of the individual volumes is completely random and independent of each other is misleading too.
Let's go simpler.
(5000-10000)/price = 200-400 copies, assuming an average price of $25, which is not much.
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>>115334920
>Because a majority of the people who buy blu-rays from companies watch the English dub
Wouldnt that be the answer your question? Most people who buy anime, I'd assume, only do so because of the dub.

Even so I still don't see why Crunchy who simulcasts doesn't put effort into typesetting the subs seeing as they get the scrips way in advance.
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Imagine if Daiz and his cronies took over the industry. Now we can see their wondrous scripts and typesettings for our localized releases.
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>>115334951
>it's been known that America is one of the biggest culprits of pirating anime
Stop being an idiot.
Piracy is not bad for the industry and never has been bad for the industry.
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>>115335057
You're forgetting this tiny thing called demographics. Whites, who are still the highest earning ethnicity, don't have interest in anime compared to Asians and Blacks (an emerging market) who still have lower income levels.
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>>115335291
[citation desperately needed]
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>>115335291
Income level doesn't mean much when you're a dweeb with no other hobbies.
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>>115333092
>a show aired multiple times per day in an early time slot has better ratings than a show aired only at 3 am on Saturday

sasuga
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>>115335370
It does when you're white.
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>>115335151
You pay $25 for a single episode? I think you're being ripped off, mate.
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>>115335454
Sorry, went a bit retard there.
Triple the number of copies, then. It's still not a lot.
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>>115335357
Discounting weabs, you can't honestly think you can sell the average animu to Joe Everyman from Kansas.
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>>115335642
why is this thread full of pointless conjecture

if you're not going to back your points up with actual facts or stats then you might as well just stop
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>>115335501
Tripling isn't quite enough.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KU3Y2VK/

That's 12 episodes for $33, and after retailer cut, distribution costs, royalties, etc, it's a lot less than $25 in profit.
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>>115335642
Sure, if it isn't some gay shit that only a weeb can enjoy.
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>>115335815
Why do you need stupid numbers and graphs to believe an argument when something simple like observations and cultural awareness is enough to draw conclusions? This isn't even hard science.
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>>115335819
What the fuck is with American prices?
I can't believe they sell anime for some 10% of what the Japanese want for it.
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>>115335868
That discounts anything made from the last decade which kinda proves my point.
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>>115335920
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>>115335920
I think /a/ is primarily black, too.
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>>115336120
And constantly angry kimchis and chinks.
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>>115336120
As if.

http://strawpoll.me/2789180
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>>115336231
I was making fun of the guy.
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>>115336231
i doubt /a/ is capable of doing something as simple as a poll properly
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>>115336231
Also, there's no real need to strawpoll when surveys with decent sample sizes have already been conducted.

2% black. Matches /v/ results perfectly, too.
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>>115335943
These prices are expected because they're in line with the average American DVD/BD season sets. Anything above that (i.e. Aniplex-tier) is premium expensive shit only hardcore collectors would even think about.
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>>115336337
i take it back >>115336479 this looks pretty accurate
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>>115335151
It makes more sense to consider the series as a whole because people usually buy it as a whole. If it costs $5,000 to translate, edit, pay fees, and dub over one episode on average, then a 12-episode anime should cost around $60,000 to make. If they sell the Blu-rays at $30 dollars, then they need to at least sell at least 2000 copies to break even.

If they cut out the editting/dubbing, they could at least remove $2,500 from the total production cost (editting/voice actors can be expensive). Then they would need to sell at least 1000 copies.

For anime that aren't really well known yet still get licensed by companies, wouldn't this be a more reasonable goal?

>>115335166
Anime is a pretty niche market as it is. This is baseless speculation on my part, but if companies didn't dub their a majority of their products, they would have less customers for sure, but still enough customers to turn a sizable profit.
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>>115336686
>For anime that aren't really well known yet still get licensed by companies, wouldn't this be a more reasonable goal?
You are forgetting the geographic size of the market. I think a very small portion of the disks are actually bought online.

In order to support their business model, they need to reach a certain customer density.
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>>115336479
Judging by the average /a/nons getting wet over things that come from What White People Like when they see it in their Chinese Cartoons I'm inclined to believe this pic.
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>>115335166
>Even so I still don't see why Crunchy who simulcasts doesn't put effort into typesetting the subs seeing as they get the scrips way in advance.
Because different fonts cost extra and their web player might not be capable of complicated stuff. Don't quote me on this, it's just speculation.
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>>115332923
Theyre trying to appeal to whiteys now. They rebranded red Archer "white"
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Wha..... what? I don't even know what you're trying to say. Localizing companies should go abroad where people would care for them even less than they do in america. is that what you're getting at? because thats pants on head asinine.
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>>115337250
That might be true for companies that sell discs. It makes complete sense, though, for a web-based streaming company to go abroad, but fuck them because region locking is still a thing.
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>>115337432
I'm sure these companies want to go beyond the fence and into uncharted territories, but what's keeping them from doing that are the licenses they get which limits them from distributing the product past stateside. If there's someone to blame, it's the publishers in Japan.
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>>115336479
>decent sample size
>909 people
>loaded questions
>muh honest /a/nons
>not little girls
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>>115336231
You need to filter the IPs from Argentina, they keep bumping up the white vote.
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>>115332923
Animax exists for those countries. Not sure if they simulcast like CR though. Anyone who lives there can help me out?
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>>115334871
More like 2001-2008 - the height of Adult Swim's anime lineup through the utter fuck-up of the first US TTGL release.
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>>115333388
No it wasn't. Anime was popular back in the 90's to the beginning of the new millennium anime movies were aired in theaters alongside other blockblisters.
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>>115342692
>Madoka didn't air in theaters
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>>115335203
That only work in a BD player with a drive from one specific supplier.
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>>115336231
>one option for white
how many argentinians are vote
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>>115342769
Yes it was. You just had to be in the right place at the right time. aka not bumfuck nowhere USA
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>>115342819
3%, according to 2012.
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>>115336800
At this point, most anime in America probably is bought online, but very little directly from the publisher.
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>>115342769
We aren't talking abut two copies of a movie being moved between cities, but actual nationwide releases.



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