Holy shit, that was fucking beautiful and inspiring. I almost seriously cried. I hope they don't fucking this up in the anime though I can't see how are they going to adapt this without butchering it.
What can I expect in HF?
Are you ready for the trainwreck?
A lot of cooking.
>What can I expect in HF?
And the hardest choice ever.
The last 3 days are great.
>And the hardest choice ever.
That's actually 100% true.
>Not instantly going with Ilya and never looking back
I was a rinfag until HF. Then I saw the light.
You can expect it to be the route where all the characters besides Saber shine the most.
A really long good route.
All you have to know is that Mind of Steel is the only true end. Everything after that is in fact a dream of Shirou many years after Mind of Steel.
VNs >>>>>>>>> anime
I started reading it too since the anime is airing.
But I don't know, the writing style is just so focused on drawing shit out for as long as possible. It is exhausting watching the monologues go in circles, even during awesome moments like that one.
So really I think the anime might be able to one up the source if it's able to trim enough of the fat.
I want an illya route so bad ;_; to bad it merged with sakura route.
Pretty much shit except the battles. HF's story sucks but the fights are amazing. Especially the final one.
Choice was hard picked kill every chance I got if only the Rider death wasn't so crappy.
>mfw the movie ends with an animated mind of steel
What is there to animate? Not a whole lot actually happens in MoS. If they're going to animate alternate ends as extras they've gotta do SLH.
I was referring to the whole "shirou wins the war giving zero fucks" thing
they just mention it in the MoS ending, but give zero details
I'd rather they stick with things that actually happen.
>What can I expect in HF?
Objectively the best route
>only true end
Multiverse exists. They are all true ends.
>What can I expect in HF?
Worst pacing ever.
Extremly inconsistent writing
The climax is very good though.
>The climax is very good though.
Could have been better. Shit could have gotten so bad counter guardians were called to clean up.
Everything in a 10km radius dies isn't a good climax.
Also this is one of my favourite CGs in the game
I found HF's story actually good. It was nice to see a different thing and it brought a pretty good closure to everything seen in the VN so far.
The pacing is far worse in Fate. You can only say that of days 11-13, and those have character bonding and are pretty short.
The truth and final climax of the Grail War.
Fate had constant infodumping as excuse
There were a lots of days were literally nothing happens. In HF at least those are short. UBW got the best pacing though, because Medea, even if she is kinda meh as a midboss, at least gives the story a better flow.
But the anime does goes to the extreme opposite and leaves little to no monologue.
I guess they're going with original anime scenes to show fights that happened off screen in the VN. Otherwise it'll be very boring.
They are adapting UBW, anon.
And UBW is by far the best paced route
This picture is more powerful than it is
Look how strong Rin is, and look how weak Sakura is
>This picture is more powerful than it is
What are you trying to say?
1: Days 1-9. 1-3 are pretty fast, mostly just SAKURA SAKURA HIGH JUMP ZOUKEN. After that, things slow down, so it'll take a while. Running time: 2.5ish hours
2: Days 10-14. Day 10 is the forest and Day 14 is Sakura going crazy, those are pretty easy to deal with and a bit long. 11-13 are, of course, the slower days. Don't spend too much time on each day and focus on Shirou's decision and all character relationships. Running time: 1.5-2 hours.
3. Days 15 and 16. The big finale, and both of these days are long, plus we need to get the epilogue in. Running time: 2.5ish hours.
I realy don't see the middle one working
You managed to make me mad
You can expect more of best girl
Why so, anon?
Yes, there is a lot of Ilya in HF
Just finished HF and cleared the whole game.
That ending was the most beautiful shit I had seen in a while.
I hate to do this but where can I dowloand Hollow Ataraxia? I need more Type Moon.
I'll most probably play Tsukihime once I'm done with HA too.
Throwing your ideals away and than depending on the arm of a version of yourself that followed those ideals so you are even able to do anything doesn't make you a hero
Shouldn't you be restoring balance to the world right about now Archer?
You have a good taste but Sakura is best grill
But he is a hero, Sakura's hero.
No, come back to us.
>Not throwing your childish ideals for your waifu
>Not conquering your future arm that trying to kill you
>Not using it to save your waifu
So what the fuck happened to Kotomine in HF Normal?
Was he just standing there, eagerly waiting for his manly fight with Shirou, when he suddenly got Excaliblasted?
this is my headcanon now
Why? Rin doesn't need more fans. Illya can only be appreciated by VN readers.
They don't need to do 1-3 again.
Thus 3-10 first movie and 11-16 second.
It was a trial by Archer. Even Shirou says he could just cut the arm but not only he needs it, but he knows he needs to be judged by it. That is pretty heroic.
1-3 in HF has a lot of Sakura scenes, that's what causes things to diverge.
Yes, probably. Shirou was so zombie-mode he just ignored him.
>Illya can only be appreciated by VN readers.
You are right, prisma Illya is also destroying what people perceive of her. You have a hard battle.
The first three days of HF actually got new stuff, like the high jump flashback and Zouken showing up.
You missed the whole point of the arm, both in a figurative and narrative way.
>Mind of Steel is the only true end.
Go away Kerry
That moment in UBW was awesome and it really secured my interest in finishing the VN. Heaven's Feel is... a really powerful route. I kept reading about how people had considered it the best route, and I kept thinking, "There's no way it's as good as what they say when Unlimited Blade Works was so great."
I was mistaken. I screamed, I cried, I had so many feels that I didn't know what to do with them all. HF is my favorite route, and you'd do well to avoid any spoilers.
I can only hope that the movie adaptation is well done.
>Not throwing your childish ideals for your waifu
I don't know whether you noticed but HF Shirou's ideals are much more childish than the other Shirou's ideals.
He completly clings to Sakura as his only reason to live.
I recommend reading Geas end for what happens if she dies
thought excalibur is after that fight regardless or normal or true end
Can't they just make a mini 1-3 with the some of its new scenes and then jump straight to the 3rd day? It's a movie after all they won't take it as slow as the anime. I also think they are expecting for you to have watched UBW before going to watch, so it won't be standalone.
You can still fight him if you choose correctly, but this is much funnier.
Yeah, that's what I said here. >>115343671
I'm not sure since I got the Normal End by using an extra projection during the Black Saber fight, but the fight with Kotomine doesn't take place in HF Normal.
Shirou just walks there, uses Excalibur and then dies without even mentioning Kotomine.
Geas is just in the middle and he was still struggling with his ideals as seen later in the main story. He kinda get a broader vision with all of it as the route gets to the end.
>I hope they don't fucking this up
>He kinda get a broader vision with all of it as the route gets to the end.
Do you have any evidence for that or is this your headcanon?
Shit my bad though. I still stand for what I said with the days, it makes more sense for it to be 2 movies.
And make sense in the frame of the route.
>swinging swords at a range neither of them could hit anything except for the other sword
that looks incredibly futile
That's the point.
The whole fight...No, the whole deal with Archer trying to kill Shirou is futile.
Real question is what happens to Illya in Normal
I don't think that'd work. I think ending the first movie with Saber's "death" would be the best.
>thinking Kerry would want Shirou to go MoS
Misunderstanding Kiritusgu as always, Kirei.
Would you let her turn you into a stuffed animal?
If this part is the latter end of the fight, Archer's not even trying to kill Shirou at this point and Shirou's a mess.
He wanted to save Illya too and even if he was in Sakura's side, he totally trusted Rin and wanted to save all the people he could. Add that he totally wanted to be judged by Archer's arm. That's not "Sakura is his only reason to live" it is just that he is gradually recovering a normal sense of happiness. In Geas he just lost his new focus too quickly and that got him to that state.
>Not wanting to be Illya's teddy.
This was supposed to quote this >>115344653 too.
Just how much backstabbing MoS Shirou did to be able to win the war without a servant?
She uses the grail for herself and lives happily and has children of her own.
The issue is that ufotable had Sakura in the rain in the first trailer, so that'll probably be in the first movie.
To be fair, it is still in pre-production, so they probably only did that scene for the PV.
Kotomine went and gave him Goldie, of course.
MoS is the route in which Gil realizes that Shirou is the kind of person that he's been looking for.
That was just a teaser. Otherwise it'd mean there will be only one movie, because the poster shows stuff from the entire route.
She failed to save her little brother and dies depressed after a year.
Backstabbing. No no, that's too smart for Shirou. He probably just went full retard and fought everything with MAXIMUM PLOT ARMOUR
HF was rather tasking to dredge through initially.
I recall kind of blazing it through the route because I was kind of bored by that point, but holy shit I was rock hard for the last three days. I can't believe they managed to pack so much awesome shit into the end of the arc.
Like goddamn, Nine Lives Bladeworks continues to be the coolest thing I've seen in media. I can only imagine how much I'll cum during the last HF movie.
No, she needs to be loved, not another possession.
>that's too smart for Shirou.
This is MoS Shirou we are talking though, dude offered himself to kill Sakura.
I don't get why people complain so much about the first days of HF.
I went into the route expecting 10 days of pure SENPAI, cookin and SoL life hell but it wasn't that bad. There is shit happening every fucking day.
It's not UBW levels of HAPPENING, but it was enough to keep me entertained.
Shirou was still willing to let the whole city die.
No, he wasn't.
He was trying to save everyone, it's just that he didn't want to sacrifice Sakura to do it.
That's not true. He was willing to let the shadow eat some people in the night, but he still wanted to end everything and save all the people he could.
It was buildup and mystery all over the place yeah. It was interesting.
>implying hardest choice wasn't Bring Ilya back
had to before that scene
Why couldn't the anime have covered Fate too, that would've suppressed the Zerofags more.
Doesn't make him smart, just dedicated. Though honestly, I wouldn't mind if he just went Kiritsugu on it and just shot all of them
Because fate is shit.
I actually think this is very possible.
Because secondaries can drown in secondaryness and die.
It's most probably 1 movie though that's the funny part.
Being ufotable I doubt it, given their past record.
Their past record had movies that could stand on their own.
The only decently self contained one was KnK 5
If they divide HF in three each movie could still stand on its own pretty well, I think.
And were still always advertised and sold as parts of a bigger project and released in batches with only a month of difference between the release in their own special cinemas.
And under that logic, there would not be things like the P3 movies or the Berserk ones.
>Missing out on all the good fights of heaven's feel
>For a cut to black ending
Why can't we design our own Illya, Taiga and maybe Bazett route? Isn't it easy to extract all the sprites and backgrounds? I'm also pretty sure we have some /a/ drawfags that can mimic the drawing style of Fate/series cut scenes.
Can we even mimic Nasu's style accurately to begin with.
From what I've heard, TakaJun's translation doesn't really mimic Nasu's style.
Giving a Rhino twintails is a start
HF could have been better. Alot better.
Surely someone can. Just use short sentences and flowery prose.
I'd be totally on board for that if someone were to do it.
How? I've heard feasible suggestions for Ayako, Caster, Rider, and Taiga... But I'm stumped for this one. Death and all.
what if Caren route though
I just aim low to avoid disappointment. The best I could hope is 2 movies.
I really don't see how 3 movies could work but we will eventually see what they do.
>ITT we write Illya's route, 3 words at a time.
It's not that hard.
I uncounciously mimic the style of any thing that I'm reading after doing so for a few days.
It's a shitty copy, but it resembles the original a bit.
Then it would have been another thing.
>It's only natural.
Well that was easy.
Please read more about suicide
HF was originally Ilya's route instead of Sakura's.
Sure we can
>This chair is an eyesore
What was Sakura's route then?
Shirou Onii Chan
>Short introduction with High Jump and all the Sakura choices
>Berserker vs Saber because it's different from UBW's fight and Fate isn't adapted
>Saber vs Rider on the park and Zouken introduction
>True Assassin's revival
>Caster's dead body discovery
>Lancer vs True Assassin and the Shadow
>Saber vs Zouken team, and her death
>Rider helps Shirou
>Shinji battle at school
>Sakura's secrets entire reveal
>Couple of short Rider fights
>Shirou abandons his ideals
>Berserker vs Zouken team + Saber Alter
>Shroud of Martin
>Shadow starts attacking random people
>Loads of sex/blood sucking
>Gilgamesh gets eaten
>Shinji is killed and Sakura becomes Dark Sakura
>Illya is kidnapped
>Last two days
>Do I need to say more?
some unnamed route obviously.
I am the bone of my prose.
Text is my body and pages are my blood.
I have analyzed over a thousand books
Unknown to death, nor known to life
Have withstood pain to copy many syntax
Yet, this pen will never publish anything.
So as I write,
Unlimited Lame Words
Kotomine finally doing something and it's fucking incredible
Easy, you just have it that Kirei by some ironic twist of fate doesn't have enough time ot actually waste Bazett and then have her arc centered around her and Lancer fighting in the war and trying to figure out how to get at Gilgamesh so she can fight Kotomine
Emiya family route where.
Are you telling me there was going to be a Dark Illya? Zouken took the role of Jubstacheit?
oh my god
OH MY GOD
>putting all the best shit in the third movie
That would be probably the greatest animated movie of all time, but then the other movies will kind of suffer because of it.
Should just do 2 three hour movies. Skip the prologue and start after they leave Kotomine church. Do the Archer getting wounded scene in a flashback.
Don't be a retard, Illya's confrontations with Shirou made up a some of her route, and would have alot more than that. Remember that Sakura's and Illya's routes were mashed together due to time constraints.
You can't do that. It's Sakura's route, removing her scenes in the first days would suck.
Besides three hour long movies aren't that common in Japan, I don't think they'd do that.
I don't think leaving the best for the end would be bad, it'd make the wait so much more worth it.
Would kiritsugu and Gilgamesh get along well together?
First movie is way too weak, the second is okay and the third has all the good stuff? Nah this won't work.
Because the females Shirou usually attracts, one way or another, are prominent females in his life or are magi...
Ayako is, well, kinda boring.
Caster is in love with Kuzuki, so thats a no-go.
The only way we would get a Rider route is to both kill off Sakura and Saber early in the story (and no other Masters die) so Rider can become Shirou's servant.
Caren route would be possible, if Kotomine did not exist during F/SN
So badass. So dead without Ilya.
>The only way we would get a Rider route is to both kill off Sakura and Saber early in the story (and no other Masters die) so Rider can become Shirou's servant.
You forgot Shinji and Zouken as well.
We need more threads without secondaries.
How are you enjoying UBW?
This episode remind me when I thought that Kiritsugu was a nice, wise old man while I was reading Fate.
>First movie is way too weak
Even then, it's like half of the duration of the route. You can't fuck up pacing that much, or you're left with DEEN's UBW.
And it's not like it would be a bad movie. Saber vs Berserker, Lancer vs True Assassin, and the whole Shadow fight in the temple would be great to see in full length, instead of crammed into five minutes of a shorter movie.
So who is the Red Man?
Not Shirou. He is the White Man.
>You can't fuck up pacing that much,
The route has pretty bad pacing anyways divide this>>115346182 into two see how much better it looks and feels. If you think they aren't going to shorten some things on a movie that's pretty delusional there's a reason why they went movies on this and no anime series.
Shirou is the White Man anon, try again.
Of course they are going to shorten things, but I feel like if they do one or two movies only, they'll have to remove scenes.
Not if you go 3 hours on each or 2:40 which is what they might do, you did see the first two episodes of UBW right they can make them that long.
Hey so can someone explain to me something, I read Sparks Liner high recently on the VN, but its a different version without the cool song that i expected to play.
Where's that version of Sparks Liner High from?
I've liked the first two episodes in that they've stayed very faithful to the VN and are solid enough on a technical level. I still have two big questions though:
How, if at all, is Ufo going to tie this to F/Z?
What ending are they moving towards?
I kind of hope nasu sees this
I really don't see them making movies that long. KnK's longest was just over two hours long, and it's not like they animated all the content from the novel.
If you check the length of most "long" anime movies, they are all around the 2 hours mark. The only one I can think of that's far off that is The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya, but that animated a whole story in it, and even then, it's a special case.
If they are going to separate the movies, I can't see them going past two hours + extra BD scenes, and that wouldn't be enough as two movies.
Gonna tie it up with a timeskip Epilogue featuring Lord Melloi II. Truly the missing element.
I don't know they might do it since UFO has a hard on for Christopher Nolan films recently.
Fantastic. Sure, pacing felt a bit slow, but it's nice that Ufotable gave a bit more screentime to the more minor characters, I actually liked the bit with the three track team gals. And the action, as expected, was fantastic. The overall story will likely get much better once we get through the first few days of the plot and Caster's machinations start properly coming into play.
Pacing seems pretty alright so far and has the usual ups and downs from the VN as well.
That and the scene with Gilgamesh and Sakura have been my favorites so far.
I hope they combine the UBW and Fate ending. By that, I mean have the UBW end with Saber having her Fate route ending.
Fffffuck. I coulda sworn I was playing on the Realta Nua patch.
Tell me, did the patch change anything with Nine Lives Bladeworks? If a better version of that exists I'll have to read it.
>He isn't using RN patch
I'm sorry to tell you, but you've been playing without the extra CG and tracks, which are all pretty great.
I'd recommend you search for it and reread some important scenes after you finish.
What song played without the patch?
That wouldn't change their market, which is the Japanese market.
We will see.
A route that's not as good as UBW, but still pretty alright.
I haven't played the version that doesn't have the RNpatch, but I think they're different.
Pretty sure it was just the generic battle songs. Clashing souls I believe it is.
How would best assassin do in the 5th HGW?
She'd kick ass and be impossibly endearing.
Can't wait for "KOTOMINE KIREEII!"
He'd probably do really well, then get killed by gilgamesh.
No magic resistance and without the protection of Caster's territory = screwed
Strangely enough, Heaven's Feel made me a Riderfag.
>The only route with Rider characterization in it made me a Riderfag, strangely enough
Did you accidentally fail to inject sufficient sarcasm into your text, anon?
He'd kill most of the Servants, then die to Gil.
I'm just saying, it's clearly the Sakura route and Ilya is great in it, but I became a Riderfag because of it.
It made me a Kotominefag.
The nigga just too great.
Would you want an anime-original Ilya route produced by Ufotable written by Urobutcher?
Holy fucking shit, I just finished HF. What an end. Didn't expect to be walking out of Sakura's own route hating her, what a slut. Rider best girl, Ilya best sister and Shirou best Sword.
I got mad everytime Shirou told him to cut with the speeches.
How the fuck can a living being not enjoy Kotomine speeches? I love them to the point that I don't know if I like them because of the thing he says or just because he is the one saying them.
Has there ever been a three hour animated movie? I don't even think Disappearance was that long.
I don't want them to fuck things up, but I think folks are being too optimistic that Ufo's going to go full crazy with Heaven's Feel. I think a more realistic estimation is maybe two movies two hours a piece.
Typical pleb takeaway from best route.
>sakuras such a slut worst girl right guiz? hurrdurr do i fit in yet?
Best Sakura isn't even in the original series
Good taste, anon.
The Sakurafags are getting riled up this week because their worm got some screentime in UBW's episode. Ignore them. They'll quiet down now that Sakura's out of the picture.
Bitch killed Shinji, she deserves a fate worse than worms. Shinji was best bro the entire time and I never realized it until HF ;_;.
Just started CCC a little while ago. Please tell me she's not like Sakura in HF.
No, there has never been a 3 hour animated film.
I just noticed I have this image in my Kotomine folder.
Is this scene from Realta Nua or something? Because I don't remember Black Sakura ever interacting with Kotomine apart from that one time in the ruins, even less her coming to his church.
Metalilith is best Sakura. Everyone else is shit.
I forgot my pic.
Anon please. Blossom is absolutely pure
It's from Fate/Unlimited Codes.
>Metalilith best Sakura
She killed best girl/demon. She's nowhere near best.
She killed best Shinji too
I know this is probably bait but even so I don't get why everyone hates Sakura so much.
Yeah, she is a coward, selfish and a many other things, buts it's not like she is a terrible character.
I actually like her because of her flaws. It makes her a pretty interesting character and somehow makes her feel more real.
Kotomine is best girl anyway.
I'm indifferent to her but that's probably the reason why.
> I can't see how are they going to adapt this without butchering it.
did you not see how awesome Ufotable's choreography has been?
>I know this is probably bait but even so I don't get why everyone hates Sakura so much.
Because it was a meme to call her wormslut and then newfags though it was serious, so now all the newfags hate on sakura to "fit in"
you're pretty easily impressed and it's kind of sad
Yes because people can't genuinely dislike her and route in no way was intended to come off as controversial.
Indifferent to her.
She's the cutest in terms of looks though. I only liked HF because of shirou being held together by gum and duct tape.
Really? I thought you guys called her wormslut because of when the VN was translated everyone was spamming Type-Moon threads with her so everyone started calling her wormslut. At least that's what I got from when HF was finished translated on /a/.
The wording in the announcement of it implies multiple films though.
But she doesn't get much development even in HF. She withholds information even before Shirou goes into blackout mode, she really did need a route to deal with her daddy issues and gut what's left of the last family.
where is this from?
I don't remember those cgs in hf.
Realta Nua OP.
This is ufotable, right?
>my dick when they get the sketchy effect right for the end of HF
Yeah they're all from ufotable
I like the way you think because it's the most realistic one here.
There are almost no action scenes from the Berserker fight to the Archer/Lancer second fight. And that is going to happen in the second cour.
Isn't that a true hero?
There is no such sketchy effect in the CGs. I think the fight in the movie will be very underwhelming.
This is with better coloring https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05sRxh9p680&list=TL5i6xWDwiWA47UYy2DQI3PUX7OOD1NhTn&src_vid=TG9MFbCIArI&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_1513874315
No idea why anons link came out that way here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05sRxh9p680&list=UUq9vL6_D3-sEhvmV1laF2BQ
Parody version from Barakamon.