Pick one and why.
I pick the one who can recieve proper dickings.
>game is 90% complete
>suddenly fucking genderswap most of the characters
You what m8?
Kotomine Shirou please. Crosses made of swords.
Tohsaka Shirou. Because.
she is so best girl it hurts
I pick best boy.
I don't want an otome game to become normie level popular that's why.
This is the best Shirou
Who the fuck are you ? Nobody cares what you think retard, nobody cares that I don't care and say that nobody cares about you either. Nobody fucking cares.
She'd probably be really easy to get in a relationship with.
>game is 90% complete
It wasn't, though. The original "Fate/Stay Night" novel wasn't a game at all, it WAS complete (never any formal release as it was made in high school), and the genderswap occurred very early into the visual novel creation process thanks to Takeuchi.
but this one doesn't really have any relation to Kirei.
This Shirou is adopted by Risei.
I really want a spin-off where Shirou picked by Kirei but not ending up as a battery. Like when Kirei adopts Shirou, something happens (for example he notices Shrou's emptiness or something else) and he ends up living with Kirei properly.
Because Kirei has to take care of a child, he stops drinking alcohol regularly and do away with the battery shit altogether and start to get better but then the grail war happens again.
A girl that dense would be really hard to get into anything with
Imagine trying to explain sex to her.
Because it needed to sell you fucking idiot. They needed Seiba to get fucked.
But they already had RIn and Sakura for that.
I pick keeping Fate in one thread instead of making gorillions of others
Proto-Rin was an antagonist. Was there even a proto-Sakura?
Prototype is complet bullshit.
Aside from lancer's design
>I have to put my penis inside you
>What?! That's not a sword, how do you expect to stab me with it?
>No, I mean in the place "down there"
>Belly buttons can't hold THAT much
>I mean your vagina
>You can't just make up words anon.
But Tohsaka Shirou already happens in UBW true
Why doesn't Matou Shirou have purple eyes or hair?
Worst upbringing. Pa Tohsaka is issues.
Okay Kotomine, you feed your real daughter to a rapist, who failed to rape her, and then it turns out her job is to get raped, because she is a natural. How will you fuck up the person you raise? You messed up Rin bad enough, when you didn't intend her to be that broken.
I can't image how it would turn out. Papa Worm realizes he can get a projection wand, shaped after what he sticks into the young lag. Shirou is sword aligned as Emiya because Pa Emiya had to stick his big avalon into his body.
Matou Shirou might be okay, outside of the experiment rape.
So its either Kotomine Shirou of Matou Shirou. Shinji got a cool brother and all that.
Pa Worm decided that doing the eyes too, would dick over his aligment too much.
>worms cause Matou Shirou to NTR all the girls Shinji brings home
Going with SWORDS Shirou anyways.
>You messed up Rin bad enough, when you didn't intend her to be that broken.
She's suprisingly well-adjusted for being raised by Kotomine.
So what is so majorly messed up with her?
>eating mapu tofu with Kotomine
>listening to Gil's crap all day long and being his little brother
I really wish this was a route.
Well that's one surefire way to make sure Heroic Spirit Emiya can never happen; make Shirou a Tohsaka.
A lot of Rins core personality is fine. Then you realize she falls back to a state of a 6 year old at the slightest sign of trouble or disinformation.
She can't cook.
She uses her family magecraft wrong.
Her first encounter with Luviya, partially because Luviya hates her, and a lot because she had no training in interaction with people.
Kotomine is a man of class: He messed her up, subtly.
Shirou growing up in that scenario has the workings of best TM male.
>She can't cook.
>She uses her family magecraft wrong.
>Her first encounter with Luviya, partially because Luviya hates her, and a lot because she had no training in interaction with people.
No that was pretty much because they are both too similiar in addition to the Edelfelt hatred for Tohsaka.
>Then you realize she falls back to a state of a 6 year old at the slightest sign of trouble or disinformation.
I have absolutely no idea what you mean.
God, I want a Kirei route so much.
I know with the current setting shirou is just gonna end up as a battery but with some modifications here and there it should be possible.
>Then you realize she falls back to a state of a 6 year old at the slightest sign of trouble or disinformation.
I have no clue what you're trying to say.
Also the rest is simply wrong
Rin was okay
Kirei only messed up her fortune but he probably thought living a poorer life was better for her.
I don't want to know what kind of monster he would turn out to be.
She uses her family magecraft wrong anon. Look at her father doing the same shit as her: He makes permanent cast items, that are properly element aligned.
Rin destroys jewels for no reason, because she doesn't know better, and she can't really afford to do that since Kotomine messed up her finances.
And the 6 year old part? Any part of the VN where she has to act mature, because the situation demands it. She does good at first, until she meets opposition, and then it collapses.
She is a tsundere because she was raised badly, not because she is a pscyhotic bitch.
Heroic spirit TOHSAKA. Fund it.
wut? he is just working for church
kirei was just a necessary evil for the plot
>>I don't want to know what kind of monster he would turn out to be.
he would be a good church worker.
do you know about ciel for example?
Shirou, because he sorta died at the end of F/Z, and gave up, is unaligned.
If Kotomine raises him to be evil, he will be evil. He will most likely adapt most of Kotomines worse tendencies, which Gil is making even worse, for entertainment.
And Gil will mold him further, just to have a laugh.
>kerei getting better
did you even read the visual novel?
Does anyone else want to know what max-power Counter Guardian Emiya is capable of? I mean if he had as many units of power as Sakura in HF there's pretty much nothing he couldn't do.
So when does Shirou's voice change into Archer's? Does it happen gradually? Would a red scarf Shirou be voiced by Shirou or Archer's VA?
it's just a what-if scenario where kirei gets better after meeting an empty person like shirou when kirei picks him up after the fire.
I can only see her as a Caster and as we all know they're bottom tier.
This will get an anime eventually.
>She's suprisingly well-adjusted for being raised by Kotomine.
See this shit? Thats the clue. She isn't properly adjusted, only well adjusted.
>Prototype will never be fully animated
This is hell
Instead of winning the war in three days, he could win it in two.
Or he'll just get turned into a snack for Gil like every other orphan Kirei took in.
>He makes permanent cast items
No he doesn't.
He just doesn't use even close to the ammount of prana/mana Rin uses during the VN considering she has to battle servants.
kirei might have been getting better after meeting shirou, just think of if as Gil's opposite effect.
Now compare that to the average magus
No, the same Archer, but with different name.
I'd bet Kirei could use a BluRay recorder.
or maybe he won't
you got fucked by the catbox theory
Ciel wasn't raised by a monster who had spent his last month realizing that he gets a extremely hard boner of watching people suffer, fail, and die.
He isn't getting better. He never bothered to go over and pick up his daughter, who he knew was a orphan.
TOHSAKA SHIROU PLEASES OLD WOMEN FOR MONEY
It wouldn't be even that hard to make.
>Kiritsugu finds catatonic Shirou and puts Avalon in him
>suddenly ressurected Kirei kills Kiritsugu by piercing his heart
>Gil next to him
>Shirou doesn't even register that
>Kirei looks at Shirou and asks "Boy, what do you think at this very moment."
>Shirou says "This world is ugly, I hate it" and passes out
>Kirei laughs while Gil smirks,picks up Shirou and walks away
Instead of super hero ideal, he believes that this world is horrible, full of suffering and sensless and it deserves purging.
>not having Fate/Zero Good End instead
He couldn't even be part of the war, he'd be far beyond the scope of Servants. A more powerful source than the Grail itself gives CGs the appropriate amount of power, which could be units in the hundred millions compared to what he had in the grail war being in the thousands. CGs are able to restrain Primate Murder (although it would take 10 of them), who is the most dangerous being in existence (to humankind, at least). CG Shirou could probably rain broken EX rank NPs without breaking a sweat.
>having an empty person raise an emptier person
ciel got tortured a lot as well and she is still okay.
well I'm just talking about a what-if scenario.
sounds awesome, I'd like to read it...
I'm also interested in a not-villain Gil route as well. CCC game was pretty good.
Gil summoned as Rin's archer would be fun to see.
I would still bet on "normal" heroic spirits powered by Alaya against CGs powered by Alaya
Would you let him trace your sword?
>not enjoying the experience of raising your own personal antithesis and yet the same time equal.
It'd like Genji's Story.
>Gil summoned as Rin's archer would be fun to see.
Gil vs. Gil calling each other mongrels when?
Nah, sounds gay.
I doubt he'll have much to strengthen.
I'm watching f/sn this season 'cause the only Fate stuff I've watched as both seasons of Illya, is it worth it to read the VN and watch the previous Fate stuff too? I understand UBW is a different route than what was animated beforehand, and I will probably end up reading the novel anyway, but is it better to read/watch them now or later?
Shirou would have had a normal alignment if he didn't die in the Fujuki fire, he didn't have Avalon sitting in him.
Avalon might have created the leaking reality marble.
Someboy like Zouken should have no problem deciding what to stick inside him, to get a reality marble alignment.
Sorta like 666. Which might have used a similar method to invert his.
I guess Seiba will just have to fill her up...
My sword Bayonet was used to kill Japs during WWII. Would he still want to trace it?
Why is Sakura so lewd?
All you've watched is Prisma? Read the VN, watching anything else animated will just spoil you.
No thank you.
Maybe Lancer would pierce her heart with his charm.
Yeah, if he's lucky.
Finally good fighter Shirou.
You can't really have Fate Zero Good End, when the first thing Kotomine asks Kiritsugi after the grail war is: Want round 2 mothafucker?!
>I can make your toys too!
Would Gil find that endearing or still annoying?
I am not sure what is happening here.
Gil would remove the Faker at first sight.
Gil would most likely try to realign Shirou to fix that.
I really don't know why but to me Shirou always seemed like perfect fit to be Kotomine's protegee.
The final fight in HF even states that they are the only people who understand each other and how fucking annoying is to see "normal people just enjoying being normal" while that was robbed from them.
Shirou jacked up on lust worms? I can see it already.
1. Rape the maids.
2. Rape the maids.
3. Rape the maids.
King Arthur making Shirouko her queen, of course.
Sasuga howaitto piggus slutting up Shirouko.
Gil would've filled Shirou's head with image of how perfect the world was under his rule and how garbage it is currently.
Shirou would've been quiet listener exactly what Gil likes.
That's not even close to a mullet you horrible person.
I always thought fanart of genderswap Kirei as him being in drag.
They can continue their fight in a parenting competition
>Rin comes over to Matous
>Gets BTFO by the sibling trio, who is sorta happy because Papa Zouken is too busy raping everyone to make them miserable
I'm sure Kirei can get some girl juice from Gilko
Shirou becomes Nero 2.0
Have some loli Shirouko instead
>Messing up her body is blades
I feel male Rin is under appreciated.
How do you have a parenting competition?
Her body is softness
>>but her vag will never hold anything
>Saber summoned by Kotomine Shirou
>even more heartless than Kiritsugu
>naked Gil sitting next to him says "Yo"
>Kirei cutting orphans in the background
Ask middle-class soccer moms and dads.
Doesn't stop girl on girl scissoring
That sounds like Saber's nightmare.
>Gils face when
Now I fucking NEED this route.
"Llend me Saber for this night"
"Of course, she is useless to me outside combat"
"BY THE POWER OF COMMAND SEAL, OBEY GILGAMESH"
>Inb4 she was actually raised by Hard Gay
>shirou will never sing to you
Oh look, the edgelords are back
Kotomine Shirou would definitely fix A LOT of my qualms.
>Caren as heroine
>fleshed out Gil
>fleshed out Kirei
>more delicious Seibah suffering
Maybe Gil just want's to play Scrabble, you don't know.
I like Seigi no Mikata Shirou.
How about Tohno Shirou or Enjou Shirou?
>F/Z Good End
Technically speaking, isn't that the premise of Prisma?
Is it wrong to want Medusa to be a charming male?
Shirou as a rapist?
I don't see that happening.
She was raised by loving mommies
To fit the concerned about height thing wouldn't he have to be a manlet?
Prisma has 2 premises:
>F/Z Super Good end(grail might be unstained in first place)
>Parallel dimension fuckery
More like 240. Jesus.
Fate Zero never happened in Prisma. HGW never started to begin with.
What if there's no rape?
Absolutely terrible. But I'll play your game.
Wouldn't that just be Tomoe?
>lancer as a snarky genki girl
Kojiro looks exactly the same...
People not knowing that Shirou's name is written like
衛宮 士郎 – Emiya Shirō – “Defense-palace warrior-son” , therefore Shirouko can't be a thing.
How about Nanaya Shirou?
>What if there's no rape?
Can demon-hybrids even function without raping someone?
>Demon clan uses magical oddity for experiments and rape
>Demon raper clan gives you boy training in how to get to the rape stage, but not the rape
He's a sword to begin with.
Unless he's really a demon-hybrid-sword
Would you go for an Aozaki Shirou?
Or alternate alternate Prisma possibility:
>It's all Ilya's escapist fantasy ;_;
Why is Shirou so lewd?
I agree, the lancers would make cute girls. Plus they'd have Irish accents. Girls with Irish accents are cute.
Shirou isn't lewd, he wants to do it after marriage and for the purpose of procreation.
You don't see much of that after he gets started
Male Rin is basically black-haired Shinji appearance wise, I don't get the love.
He does that too.
This is Evil Shirou. he would troll command Saber.
Not "obey Gil", but "Poke at him"
You realy don't see much of that
Most awkward and least erotic sex scene in the entire VN.
It's because Rin's personality on a dude is fun to imagine.
the lead up was good though
>Female Shirou meets shota Illya
>Incest /ss/ commences
>With Sakura, she is so wet he sates her
>With Saber, its basically erotic gay sex, with Saber as seme
>Rin will never please old men
Last one for now. Gotta get some dinner.
Who is best girl and why is it Gil?
Original Best Pairing!
Fakers need not apply!
Nothing a good Jackhammering can't fix.
You want it all to come true Anon-kun? Right?
If you give me another Kitchen knife Grail-kun I swear to god I'll find you, and I will use my Hero Creation Kit and destroy you.
I ship Miyu's Shirou and Angelica, FakerxCounterfeiter OTP
But Archar San, you need to become a hero!
I would bone FemSasaki so fast my dick would Thrust three times simultaneously just so I could make her pregnant faster.
If Shirou is well-hung according to Tohsaka, would fem-Shirou have large breasts?
I don't see why a male Rin would be scared shitless by unusually large breasts though.
>Zero Assassin is basically the same
Still like that design though.
Oh look, it's fucking Sephiroth.
Then again, Acht is just wrinkly bearded Sephiroth.
Shirou works hard and eats hearty, ending up with an average fat weight. Large breasts would be out of character.
A more accurate equivalent to a fat cock would be a tight cunt.
Wouldn't she already have that from the start?
Not sure you know how Kotomine works
If he met himself from before the 4th war, he wouldn't be inspired to get better, he'd just rape him and indulge in the ultimate despair as he witnesses his future. There is nothing to get better outside of a miracle, he simply has an inverted sense of taste, yet knows that his taste is wrong even if he can't be happy any other way.
That was an alright doujinshi, the one with Kotomine on Kotomine.
Maybe fem-Shirou would end up bruising Rin's pelvis from riding him too hard.
Would male Rin still wear thigh highs?
Well yes, it's not something trained. It's not Shirou used level 7 strengthening on his dick, either.
This has got to be one of the most retarded twists ever.
>OH HURR THIS HISTORICAL JAPANESE FIGURE JUST HAPPENED TO RESEMBLE ARCHER WITH A MARIK HAIRSTYLE. THE WHITE HAIR AND TAN SKIN JUST CAME OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE, I DUNNO
The church isn't evil, and Kotomine isn't truly evil either, just twisted. It's hard to really pin down what's evil in this story since they all tend to not be able to help it due to Innocent Monster or there's a deeper meaning. It's probably good how there's no true black and white.
Besides, Shirou doesn't have a strong affinity for "Doing good", rather he had an affinity for copying the one who saved him in a sense. Because Kiritsugu taught him that path of being a hero and left him with that wish, he became a hero since it was the old man's dream.
The difference is that all female virgins have tight cunts but not all male virgins have huge dicks.
Preternaturally tight, then. Excellent muscular control, etcetera.
>Besides, Shirou doesn't have a strong affinity for "Doing good", rather he had an affinity for copying the one who saved him in a sense. Because Kiritsugu taught him that path of being a hero and left him with that wish, he became a hero since it was the old man's dream.
You can't say his drive to help others is solely due to copying Kiritsugu. The massive survivor's guilt he wallows in has nothing to do with Kiritsugu, Kiritsugu just provided him an outlet to relieve it.
>The massive survivor's guilt he wallows in has nothing to do with Kiritsugu
Protip: read UBW ending
If you say "But no, he was still feeling guilty about shit" then you really didn't understand the revelation. We thought it was guilt previously, we latched onto that excuse because it made him seem normal by our viewpoint, but the truth made him far more twisted. During HF and previously in this route he did not know this revelation, any evidence brought in before this point or in another route cannot qualify, because this is the ultimate secret he could not let himself realize and keep going. Guilt is something normal that we could understand, Shirou was not normal though, it was never guilt as stated here.
Would Mandea be Hasubando material?
IT ISN'T A MISTAKE!
You sound very mad just because they messed with your headcanon, /a/utist.
Would Karen wear pants?
Would Taiga tease Shirouko?
Would Ilya want to ss his oneesama?
Just use Sieg's design
Would brothers be able to re-unite?
Homunculus who got reverse ilyaed in Apocrypha.
I don't know whether pic related is pre or post heart-op.
>Male Sakura was raped by Old woman Zouken and her worms.
I don't think I want to know the places where the worms went in male Sakura. Way too scary.
And sorry, sisters > brothers most of the time.
He looks like a shaved hobo
Don't forget that Jeanne d' Slut wants his dick.
So Gil forcefully thrust a heart into his chest? How rude! You don't know where that shit has been.
Fem Zouken is an eternal loli.
Ask any friend that grew up with divorced parents
He got better after the heart OP
What if Jeanne was like... a man
>wanting to defile Fem Zouken
What would genderswapped Kuzuki look like?
Regular kuudere teacher with loose sense of morals?
Does this mean she would have raped medeo after finding him passed out in the forests near the temple?
I would also like to add that I support the theory that Uryuu is Shirous biological parent
Nope he got a good donor
How about Emiya Rin?
Siegffried is way better with heart ops than Gilgamesh
People say Shirou isn't capable of rape.
What is this from?
But Cu never fails to find a good heart
Is it from a bad end then? Because I've read all of it and this never turned up.
Re-read the H-scene.
Is shiki pissing in her vagoo?
Sakura looks like a fag.
Of course, that's how babies are made anon.
Shirou looks not at all like she should there.
Kid wouldn't pay any attention to cosmetics or her appearance, so her hair wouldn't be all silky and smooth and shit.
There's a reason Shirouko is always drawn with spikey and out there hair even as a girl.
I thought that was because Shirou had naturally spikiness not because he didn't care about personal hygiene. Yeah, he gets down and dirty (in more ways than one) but he still has enough sense to shower.
He showers, but he doesn't put all kinds of shampoo and spends time brushing it all the time to be silky as fuck. So it would tend to be a bit of a mess, rather than lacking hygiene. Something like a pony-tail or short hair would be normal for him, just whatever's easy to work.
taiga is best girl AND best boy
Interesting joke image
>Would male Rin still wear thigh highs?
forgot to remove name
>rather than being saved by Avalon, Kirei somehow manages to mud Shirou up
>rather than wanting to save people, he believes experiencing evil is necessary to the existence of good
>rather than rejecting sin he surrounds himself in it, molding himself against it
>Shirou seeks to experience all the pains and pleasure in the world
>the more he is hurt and soiled the purer he becomes
>in contrast to Emiya Shirou, he becomes a person who has a montrously strong sense of self
>Reality Marble: Unborn Abyss Binds, in which all actions against Shirou are negated
why did i love that man so much
Why not Schiroh von Einzbern? Shirou raised as Kiritsugu's replacement to win the HGW.
It's a incredibly dumb idea so i'm sure the Einzberns would do it.
Why didn't the Einzberns raise Shirou?
One got really into Yugioh.
Kiri broke all ties with the Einzberns and likely kept it that way with magic. With him dead, I guess they were able to track him down with Illya.
I finished it.
I ended up getting a bit teary at the very end.
Never Forget the Cunt-meister.
Additionally, I'd like to collect all the CG, but I have no idea what I'm doing with Hanafuda. No seriously, I haven't the slightest clue.
I don't know if it's sheer luck or whatever, but I can somehow manage to get to past Ilya without using any Command Spells, but then that stupid King of Heroes/Dog Combo shows up and destroys me every single time.
who tattoo him joan mirò ?
Crazy fanatical ancient Persians more then likely, Unless the tattoo's are a grail war only thing.
If I remember correctly, he had tatoos before, but the grail changed them. Before they were a bunch of swear words, as he was supposed to be all the evils in the world.
Since when did Nanaya Kiri have association with Einzberns?
Shirouko a qt
What do you mean "robbed" in Kotomine's case? Isn't he naturally fucked up?