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What the fuck did I just re-watch.
Fuck you with a rake Anno.
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>>115324157
>watching the worst rebuild film more than once.
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>>115324206
I can't help it, anon, I just can't deal with it.
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It's almost as if you're expecting answers when there's at least one movie left to go.
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>>115326272
I expected a movie not to trash all the buildup 3/4 of the way through the tetralogy.
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>>115324206
That's not 2.0
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>>115326988
But 2.0 was great, Shinji finally had a fuck yeah moment without crying like a bitch.
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>>115326852
2.0 was just a bait movie for people like you.
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Will we get another Impact in 3.0+1.0?
>Revolving Door of Guf
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>>115327086
2.0 devolved the franchise into cooking and poka poka. 3.0 at least made me feel something.
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inb4 500 post chimpout
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It did get me incredibly excited for 4.0

Because there's no way in hell they can salvage this after 3.0.

If 3.0 is the start of a trainwreck 4.0 is going to be the part where all the parts come flying off and the bodies start being thrown everywhere.

It's going to be glorious
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>>115328457
Does it come with extra autism?
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>>115328457
Will everybody find love in the end?
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You watched pure shit that 4.0 will have to either attempt to fix or just go full batshit retarded.
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>>115328634
Everyone except Fuyustuki.
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>>115328457
A chimp out between waifu fags only though.
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>>115327086
>Shinji finally had a fuck yeah moment

Here it is. The cancer ruining this fanbase.
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>>115327086
>Shinji finally had a fuck yeah moment

fuck off cancer.
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What purpose does Mari serve? 2.0 and 3.0 could do without her incredibly short screen time.
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>>115331183
Triple-agent spy along the lines of Kaji.
Merch girl.
Potential love interest for Asuka if expanded upon.
Represents the theme of growing the fuck up keeping a sense of hope and positivity.

That's about it really.
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Is this the point at which we point out that Sohryu is best and Shikinami is a pitiful facsimile?
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>>115331858
>Potential love interest for Asuka if expanded upon.

Where do people come up with this shit
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>>115327086
>liking entry-tier shonen 2.0 over Splendor of EVA 3.0
shit side of the EVA fan base detected

if you're not in it for the ambiguous life circumstances, philosophical grey area, relative anomie and general psychological strife, why the fuck are you even watching EVA?
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>>115331991
Well it doesn't really help when the staff call her a genderbent Kaworu while giving the OK on shit like this.
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>>115328462
>salvage
if the context is in-universe (i.e. the narrative is wrought with conflict and turmoil), then yes

if the context is movie quality, then no

as always, what you should believe if you're correct
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>>115332178
Fanservice is heavily disconnected from the actual point of the characters & show, they'll toss you a bone then reveal they pissed on it an hour ago

do you even EVA?
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>>115331991
Mari taking orders from Asuka and calling her "princess", Asuka's new cat theme, Miyamura saying Asuka's love interest needs to be a Kaworu-like character and then Maki describing Mari a such

Yamashita also recently confirmed they hung out together all the time during the time skip
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>>115332259
I bet you think the Kaworu-Shinji focus is nothing but shallow fujoshit pandering, don't you.

I bet you think that Shinji and Rei have a romantic thing going on in Rebuild too.
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>>115324157
here is something I wrote about the Rebuilds
>>115330906
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>>115332399
>let me talk shit because i dont know shit

thanks bb

>>115332346
none of that really implicates lesbian status

They hung out together? no shit they're the same age and pilot EVAs, and the other two just fucking "died"

citation needed on these quotes from the producers
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>>115326988
I can't say whichever i hate the most but I certainly hate everything.
After 1.11 I was amazed
>FUCK YEAH EVA IN HD, certain things ciuld be better though and the pacing is too fast but i'm okay with it.
2.0 preview
>WHAT THE FUCK? ARE THEY DITCHING EVA CONCEPT AND STORY?
2.0 screencap
>FUCK EVERYTHING FUCK COOKING FUCK POKA. I'm not gonna ever watch 3.33. Never rewatched 2.22 in bd actually
>3.33 BD came out and some asshats posted Black Shitstain
Well, why not? I don't expect anything anyway but Rei looks hot in black
AND I'M STILL FUCKING MAD. I thought it was Rei motherfuckers.
Why hadn't anyone tell me ME "NO ANON YOU'LL HATE IT, DON'T DO THAT"?
Normally I live like "what happened happened, remorse or regret never halped anything" but I still can't get over breaking that promise I gave to myself after 2.00. My life could be a lot better and I'd be a lot happier, bit I did do that.
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I thought that Mari is Shinji's daughter
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I'm still mad the preview at the end of 2.0 was a total lie.

"It probably happened before 3.0" is no excuse for this bullshit.
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>>115324157
>watching the rebuilds

How. How can you even get 5 minutes in and not realize that Anno lost "it"--whatever "it" was that elevated NGE and EoE above his usual slightly-above-average performances.
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>>115326988
Of course not, 2.0 is the best Rebuild movie by far.
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>>115332673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGy4RimdR9o
Holy shit. What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>115332746
Depression anon, depression
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>>115332758
Anno was just being Anno.
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>>115332746
It's not like my time has any value.
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>>115332746
He still has it, just realize that the Rebuilds arent meant to retell the original story, like at all.
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>>115332753
For some reson I imagine you to be like a man on that "tipical_mac_user.jpg" but in a suit and with a spoon and ten dishes of feces. You are thoroughly tasting each sort of stit repeatedly and writing long and serious articles on how does each shit taste, what's the difference, whicever you like the most and whichever appears to be objectively better?
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>>115332758
>>115332673

That preview was meant to be a ruse from the start.

It's actually a quick review of the prominent events that took place during the time skip.
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>>115333016
We know that, you dumb fuck.
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>>115332346
Don't forget that Mari is also a care-free spy just like Kaji. And we all know who Asuka had a crush on in NGE.
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>>115332999
I bet you thought that cliche joke would be funny.
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The only people that liked 3.0 are those that liked it because they could laugh at the expense of the people that somehow got the idea that Rebuild is the TTGL of Evangelion after 2.0.
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>>115332917
It looks like any other anime now. If it didn't have EVA attached to it so tightly, it would be straight forgettable.
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>>115333108
I never joked
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>>115332580
>Mari is Shinji's daughter

No that's Rei.
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>>115333144
You mean fujoshi.
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>>115333144
You forget the waifufags.

Kaworufags, Asukafags, Marifags are all having a blast with it.
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>>115332917
What does he have, exactly? Lots of money to make expensive anime productions?

>>115333016
>I was trolling all along!
Is 3.0 the equivalent of shitposting?
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>>115333198
So Shinji fucked Asuka and then sent Rei into the past?
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>>115333208
And Reifags had a blast with 2.0.

What's your point? Besides all of the movie being pandering towards a specific Eva crowd.
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>>115333208
>Kaworufags are all having a blast with it.
Fix'd.
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>>115333245
>Is 3.0 the equivalent of shitposting?
That would make a lot of sense.
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>>115333311
Fuck off wth that.
Poka poka dumbened Rei's character even worse than Q did.
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>>115333311
The point is that more than what you mentioned had a blast with the movie.

With 2.22 it was more that everyone was having a blast, not just Reifags. Right now it's only a very special kind of waifufag or pretentious moron that can confess to liking it.
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>>115333376
All of Hideaki Anno's works are the artistic version of shitposting
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>>115333385
>hurr I'm retarded
>>>/out/
/a/ has very little time for deluded faggots who are insanely wrong.
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>>115333311
2.0 was the best rebuild and I had a blast with it without being anything near a Reifag.

I actually thought for a moment that Rebuild could be more than just rehash remake, that there was something genuinely new here.

Yes, I was trolled.
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>>115333565
2.22 was a rushed piece of fanservice shit. All new stuff was limited to cooking.

If you had at leas half of a brain you'd not have a blast with it, ESPECIALLY if you were a reifag.
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>>115333299
No.

But it's more like Shinji is the new Yui and Rei is the new Shinji. The entire plot revolves around Gendo manipulating their parent-child relationship to further his own goals.

>NGE Gendo: I will make Shinji get into the robot so that Yui has an incentive to go mommy-berserk on angels and eat an S2 organ!
>Rebuild Gendo: I will make Shinji and Rei bond with each other so that Shinji has an incentive to go mommy-berserk, awakening the eva and triggering an impact!

>NGE Gendo: I will use the dummyplug system to bait Yui into carrying out these tasks since Shinji is no longer at my disposal!
>Rebuild Gendo: I will use Rei Q to bait Shinji into doing into carrying out these tasks since the original Rei is no longer at my disposal!

>NGE Yui: This isn't my Shinji it's just a dummyplug, I'm rejecting it! Abloobloobloo
>Rebuild Shinji: This isn't my Rei it's just a dummyplug clone! I'm rejecting it! Abloobloobloo

>NGE Misato and Yui: Give me back my Shinji! Don't take him away from me abloobloobloo
>Rebuild Shinji: Give me back my Rei! Don' take her away from me, abloobloobloo

Whether Shinji is inhuman in Rebuild's continuity and Rei/Lilith's legitmate parent is up for debate.
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>>115333809
what the fuck anon.
This is so retarded it could actually be true.
The whole story is about Gendo wanting to fuck his own son in the body of his mother
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115333986
No he still only cares about Yui.
Shinji is just the new Yui-Lilith in terms of being the primary manipulated pawn. You can bet your ass that the final father-son conflict will be Shinji rejecting Gendo's instrumentality wishes for his own, or for someone else's.
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>>115333323
Underrated post.
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>>115333722
>All new stuff was limited to cooking.
If you forget everything like the continued time loop hinting, Gendo meeting Kaworu, Shinji being a trigger, Gendo's key, Shinji having to fight Asuka, Asuka getting infected by an angel, Rei emoting, Rei merging into 01, Mari working with Kaji and hinted to have an actual role etc. Man, the preview was so promising. Shame 3.0 didn't live up to it.
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>>115333385
Remind me what poka poka means again?
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>>115333486
> /a/ is 90% deluded faggots who are insanely wrong.

Fixed.

>>115333722
You, evidently, have less than half of a brain.
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>>115334332
I want to know the deal behind this scene.

The shadows were confirmed to be Reis from the CRC, so another Kaworu+Rei meeting would be neat.
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>>115333722
You're full of shit anon. It's so childish to see you actually claim seriously that "all new stuff was limited to cooking".

I'm probably getting trolled.
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>>115334690
You're part of the cancer killing Eva.

2.0 was a fan service movie that was purposefully meant to get people hyped for 3.0. It was a fucking trap for idiot anime viewers who wanted more fan service otaku shit and you're just another one of those idiots that fell for it.
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>>115334896
I loved 2.0 but didn't want more fan service, I expected it to do the same thing NGE did, which was to provide fanservicey shit in the beginning and then turn those characters into seriously well developed ones.

Instead 3.0 gave you more fan service. Woops, so much for your retarded criticism.
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The main issue I have with /a/ whenever they're talking about film is how they have no fucking idea what makes a good film.
The narrative is secondary, sometimes tertiary even.
It's all about making else technically coherent or even exceptional.
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>>115334896
2.22 was a success at generating hype and interest then.

It was a trap, but not like you suggest - because NGE works in the way that it makes a general setting with fanservice and action interspersed with interesting character moments.
That's 2.22, and probably the first twelve eps of NGE, the part before the middle.

The expectations for those who watch 2.22, and me personally, was for things to serious the fuck up, and for everything to go more in-depth which would like NGE did, validate the characters.

Sadly, 3.33 decided that it was too hard and we just got homolust pandering and Anno taking the piss.

TOO BAD. Rebuild was still promising after watching 2.22. It had the basics NGE had, but after 3.33, it's fucking doomed except for the few anime otaku that wolf down basically anything with cute girls and robots.
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>>115335103
it's not worth trying to explain, just let the thread run its course
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>>115335103
Which makes especially 3.33's 3DCG-fest with three-frame loops particularly boring and unexceptional.

Especially when you consider the allegedly limitless budget this monster of a production has.

Even making an appeal for technical excellence is not working. 3.33 isn't any different from the feelies described in Brave New World.
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Is 3.33 really that bad?
I haven't seen it yet, but I did watch the first two, what makes it so bad?
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>>115335240
Use your imagination. What would you do to make it the worst sequel to the movies you just watched?

Chances are you'll get close to 3.0.
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>>115335240
People are just confused. That's it. A new entry in a twenty year old franchise whose fans pride themselves on understanding stuff that's 2deep4theRestOfUs actually confides them and they chimp out. The waifufagging is just an excuse for half the fandom's insecurity.
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>>115335240
It's probably worse.

Thing is, it's only truly amazing if you're a Kaworufag because it flips the entire world of EVA on it's head to extensively feature the two as some sort of interstellar item.
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>>115335240
Pointless timeskip, so everything in the last film is basically discarded, there is no character exploration, plot goes nowhere, fujoshi fanservice, shallow characters, terrible fights, QUALITY chins, EVERYTHING
The only way they can continue/fix anything form here is entering another loop.
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I was honestly more confused when I rewatched it.
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>>115335418
*confuses. Swipe keyboards, man.
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>>115335418
Yep. Pretty much this. Though I'd disagree about the waifufagging part. That's the other half of the butthurt.
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>>115335213
The technical skill of the director, not the art team.
Q had some wonderful cinematography, the shaft scene in particular comes to mind.

>>115335201
Honestly I don't understand how /a/ can hate things like Q and Rebellion, when they're so well made. (at least going by Chinese cartoon standards)

>>115335240
It's bad because the plot didn't go the way people here wanted it to go.
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>>115335418
The only one here confused is you. You're chimping out from accepting that yes, 3.33 and Rebuild really IS that bad.

So you just pretend that people are confused instead of facing reality.

There is nothing confusing about 3.33, because the pointless trivia and background details were never the point. There's literally nothing to solve here, nothing that can be amended or added to make up for the fact that the story is not working, the characters are all poor, and the fact that 3.33 effectively ruins any chance for recovery.
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>>115335353
This.

>>115334332
>>115334755
If 3.0 was like the preview it would be god tier. Even Kaworu looks heaps more interesting than the boring fujoshit we got in the actual film.
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>>115335451
Everything? Is the development of Rei's and Shinji's relationship still there?
>>115335566
What were people expecting exactly?
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>>115335418
It's not confusing. There's a lot of techno babble and new terminology being tossed around but it's superfluous. That doesn't change that the film is just fucking shit though.
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>>115335566
>Q had some wonderful cinematography, the shaft scene in particular comes to mind.
I don't agree at all, and the poor examples outweight the good. The decision to feature 3DCG as well as the choreography and "camera placements" is also the result of the director's skill, and many of the tracing shots (such as the camera following a projectile) were just cringeworthy.

This is not even touching on the ill placed fanservice, notably the decision to have Mari's bouncing tits following a dramatic death scene.

It's not very good, and you can't really downplay the value of the narrative or plot to make excuses.
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>>115335679
>What were people expecting exactly?
The preview and more importantly anything but what happened.
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The best part is when God's Gift starts playing as Mari saves the day.
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>>115335679
>Everything? Is the development of Rei's and Shinji's relationship still there?
GHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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It'd be cool if there was a Rebuild thread where everyone came up with new posts instead of copy-pasting what they used in the last one.
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>>115335679
>Everything? Is the development of Rei's and Shinji's relationship still there?
No, Shinji lost all previous relationships. I guess it's easier to insert Kaworu that way and make the loss have more impact. Worked better for NGE. However, they don't even focus on other characters so they end up feeling really shallow and pointless. Which brings the film down. After watching you kind of wonder "why should I care about any of these people?"
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>>115335713
2.0 also had some shitty cgi though.

And basically all of the movies are just Anno manipulating his audience one way or the other.
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3.0 was perfect. They set us up good in 2.0. They made us think that there was somehow a solution to the madness that is Eva, that through teenage willpower we could overcome the fate designed for us by the FAR.

And then 3.0 dropped, and we were reminded of our inferiority.
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>>115335713
>This is not even touching on the ill placed fanservice, notably the decision to have Mari's bouncing tits following a dramatic death scene
That honestly seemed more like "sarcastic" fanservice, like "hahaha you wanted more of Mari's tits? Well here you go!" It's placement was probably meant to piss people off, and it wasn't even that long
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>>115335851
It would be cool if he had a rebuild thread discussing the movies without everyone going into chimp outs.
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>>115335679
>Everything? Is the development of Rei's and Shinji's relationship still there?
They basically ended up ruining Rei completely.

Not even Rei fans want anything with the character in Rebuild any more, and just fucked off or accepted that the only good Rei will be the original.
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We're gonna get a happy ending. Fuyutsuki has imparted Shinji with some crucial truth, and Shinji will find a place of peace in the next movie.

It's all coming together, gang.
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>>115335855
Damn it, Seriously? That was one of the main things I loved about the Rebuild series, I liked how his relationship with Rei was actually there, unlike in the original series.
I didnt even like Kaowru that much either
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>>115335929
This is discussing the movie. It was bad.

>>115335873
Not as much, and the EVA's actually look better with more "bang for your buck" animation.
Not that 2.0 was amazing, 3.0 is just that much worse.
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>>115335999
Anno said Rebuild would have a happier ending years ago.
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>>115335679
>What were people expecting exactly?
The stuff from the preview. The first preview.
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>>115336076
It wasn't bad. You just didn't like it.
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>>115335911
It's not sarcastic, it's just a director being shit.

Even if it is "ironic", remember that IRONIC SHITPOSTING IS STILL SHITPOSTING.

You don't get to make shit directing decisions, then later go "ha ha! I was being shit ON PURPOSE!", and then suddenly get showered with Oscars and awards.
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>>115335713
The tracing shots were dumb, but Anno seems too experienced not to be aware of that, same thing with the fanservice.
The CGI was a good choice, since most of that shit would've been obscenely expensive otherwise, even if it looks slightly out of place on some occasions.

>>115335971
The idea behind Rei's character was taken to it's logical extreme, people just hate Q, because they feel entitled to get "their" Rei.

>>115336076
Except it wasn't bad.
It just wasn't what people wanted it to be.
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>>115335911
No. It just fanservice. Like the camera zooming in on Rei Q's ass. There is nothing clever about it.
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>>115335999
>>115336100
>muh happy ending
Who the fuck gives a shit. You can get a happy ending at a seedy massage parlour, fact is that happy endings don't mean shit in themselves.

NGE+EoE isn't a very happy ending, but the series is fucking fantastic and the BAD end is also well done.
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>>115336152
Except that that irony is a thing in art and has been one for over two thousand years now.
Irony does not mean "being bad on purpose".
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>>115336046
You're gonna hate 3.0.

Evangelion has been retconned to be all about Shinji and Kaworu's meetings in time and space, think Madoka and Homura except without what made Madoka actually interesting.
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>>115336173
>The idea behind Rei's character was taken to it's logical extreme, people just hate Q, because they feel entitled to get "their" Rei.
How is it taken to a logical extreme, and if so, is it any good? Is it well-developed, well-crafted or is it just another run-of-the-mill cliche clone character?

It's the latter. Even if you make an excuse, the character is still shit, much like the rest.
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>>115336149
It was bad despite you liking it, or anyone else.

>>115336173
>Except it wasn't bad.
It was bad, and some did want it to be exactly like this.

I don't see why you're defending it. It has an idiot plot, and manages to be repetitive and outright boring unless you have some sort of anime autism.
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>>115336253
Ugh, damn it. I'll watch it regardless, but if it's really as bad as everyone says, then hopefully 4.44 is a fuckin' masterpiece
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>>115336235
That's what you're suggesting here. The result is a direction decision that kills the moment, for shallow reasons such as providing fanservice.
Shots of Shinji's ass isn't helping either.

You can't claim irony when there's no point to the irony and the supposed irony is actually damaging the movie.

There was no irony there, just a bad directing decision, and you can't claim any directing decision is "irony" when it's not good.

By that logic, you can say any poor movie or poor direction is just ironically bad.
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>>115336253
>Evangelion has been retconned to be all about Shinji and Kaworu's meetings in time and space

Basically this. It's all about now about some Kaworu and Shinji being Adam and Eve and how the world will be reborn and better off once they finally get together or something. Not that there's anything wrong with that, as long as it's done well. Which at the moment, it's not.
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>>115336253
That's crazy, it's not the same thing at all.
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>>115336149
Nah it was pretty bad.
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>>115336307
>How is it taken to a logical extreme
Rei always was the quiet doll-ish girl, even before the reveal that she was just a fake, but she still was something herself.
ReiQ is a doll, she's exactly the thing the people, especially in Japan, who like Rei, think Rei to be.

>is it any good
It isn't, it's a slap in the Evangelion fan's face, like just about everything else in Q.

>It's the latter
Rei was just that when she first appeared as well.

>>115336370
Because plot is mostly irrelevant in film, if you want to be told a story, read a book.
Claiming a film is shit, based on the plot alone is just stupid, because there's so much more than that.

>>115336442
See my point on whether ReiQ is any good.
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>>115336173
>The tracing shots were dumb, but Anno seems too experienced not to be aware of that, same thing with the fanservice.
So you are actually pretending it's not as bad as it is? Why exactly are you excusing Anno like this. Are you fucking retarded?

These things are REAL. If he was "too experienced to not be aware", he wouldn't have done it. It's that simple.

>The CGI was a good choice, since most of that shit would've been obscenely expensive otherwise
They have the money according to Anno, and not only that, they've managed to do these scenes in the past WITHOUT the money or resources.

Just stop defending 3.33.

>>115336417
4.44 can't be a masterpiece or fix what 3.0 broke.

Things were already shaky with 1.0 and 2.0, and 3.0 is the critical section of the story, and it never even tried.
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>>115336522
Why does this make me so hard?
Stupid trap-Kaworu
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>>115336536
>ReiQ is a doll, she's exactly the thing the people, especially in Japan, who like Rei, think Rei to be.
Now if that were the truth, they'd love Rei Q - which they don't.

You see, people who like Rei, not here or there, think Rei is a doll. The only ones who do are people that dislike Rei, exemplified by Asuka in NGE for instance.

As you can see, it makes no sense at all even according to what you present as it's intention here.

Fact remains that the character is poor, which is the only thing that matters.

>Rei was just that when she first appeared as well.
She wasn't - the fact that she's a clone is not revealed until the tail end of the series, remember? By then we've had development, introspection and interaction that made a character.
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>>115336540
>They have the money according to Anno, and not only that, they've managed to do these scenes in the past WITHOUT the money or resources.
Saving money on animation translates into more money for the studio.
Anime is a business first and foremost.
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>>115336536
>Because plot is mostly irrelevant in film, if you want to be told a story, read a book.
Wow, just fucking kill yourself. I mean seriously, go fuck yourself.

You have no right to comment on anything whatsoever with that statement made.

>>115336667
Greed doesn't defend a shoddy product.
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>>115336655
>She wasn't
I figured you thought of "clone" in the meta context of the word, as in "the archetype ReiQ represents has been done before", which it has.
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>>115336540
Maybe they'll give another EoE? I just really want the series to be good, I really enjoyed NGE, so seeing Rebuild crumble would break me
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>>115336536
>See my point on whether ReiQ is any good.
I fail to see the relevance?

Rei Q isn't good at all, and you basically botch your explanation of Rei plus the reaction. What does that have to do with the director providing said shitty scene decisions?
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>>115336718
>You have no right to comment on anything whatsoever with that statement made.
Care explaining why that is?

>Greed doesn't defend a shoddy product.
Again plenty of people paid for the product, so it has to have been good enough, right?
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Rei Q was meant to be a character you're supposed to hate or dislike in favor of the real Rei.

The problem is that Reifags are too autistic to see this.
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>>115336770
Pay attention, would you?

>My point on on whether ReiQ is good
Here, in case you're blind:
>is it any good
>It isn't, it's a slap in the Evangelion fan's face, like just about everything else in Q.
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>>115336728
Even with that context, you'd still be wrong. Reminder that Rei is credited with introducing and validating an entire archetype within anime. It's one of the characters you can say that is the least of a "clone" in the meta-sense when it first debuted.
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>>115336235
There is nothing ironic here. Fanservice is played completely straight in Rebuild, hell in NGE too.
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>>115336773
>people buy a product
>that means it's good

Just go.
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>>115336851
Stop acting as if you know the point of ANY of these characters.
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>>115336915
Read, please.
"good enough" as in "good enough to sell" well.
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>>115336854
In that case I don't see why you're disagreeing, 3.33 really was that shit then.

It's not irony, it's just plain bad. It's played straight, not for irony. This is what it is. Objectively and truly, because it sure as hell isn't anything else.
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>>115336773
Yes, SAO is a masterpiece after all.
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>>115336851
The only thing autistic and moronic here is the notion that you're supposed to hate/like anything.
A child trying to understand fiction, that's what you are.

Hate or like, it's just poor, uninteresting, pointless and redundant. It contributes to 3.33 being shit.
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>>115336990
It was good enough for the Japanese market, clearly.

>>115336988
"I don't like thing" doesn't mean "thing is bad", try to understand that.
Madokafags have exactly the same problem with Rebellion.
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>>115336957
Seriously, just fuck right off.

>HURR IT SELLS SO THAT MEANS ITS GOOD

You are fucking retarded and you should feel ashamed.
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>>115335589
Wow. A parrot with a keyboard. Do you enjoy the sour, burning sensation and texture of the vomited up opinions of only the stupidest people who managed to stumble across this series? You must, since you keep spreading it around.

>>115335713
I didn't like the CG fights at first, but honestly, some scenes would have been nearly impossible without it. The opening was an incomprehensible mess of limbs and steel beams on my first watch. After seeing it twice, I must admit it looks pretty cool. For the EVA models, CG looked amazing. In the one scene where it went traditional on Unit 2, I missed the CG stuff.

>pic indirectly related
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>>115336851
Are you fucking retarded? Reifags hate Rei Q. At least western Reifags. And Tsurumaki didn't say such a thing, he said he wanted to develop Rei Q into her own person. The whole "but that's not Ayanami!" is for Shinji to realize how fucking dumb his actions were and that Poka Rei is literally Yui
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>>115337043
"I like thing" does not mean "thing is not bad", try to understand that.

I don't give a fuck about your appeals to another instance of movie criticism, you deal with THIS particular movie's criticism or you fuck right off.

You're the one with the problem, trying to actually deny criticism being made rather than addressing the criticism and debunking it.
That's incredibly cheap and cowardly, might as well admit that the movie is shit yourself but you like it.

If you admit that 3.33 is shit, but say that you like it, then you're free to do that.
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>>115337123
Look at that scene. If you've seen it animated it's nothing but a few frames looping.

It's a fucking still otherwise, the only exception being RIDICULOUS CAMERA SHAKE and a FUCKING 3DCG MOVING EYE.
Then michael bay explosions.

I have some colorful marbles you can play with, since you're that easily impressed.
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>>115337043
It's good enough for Netflix.
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>>115337123
A guy defending the shitfest that was 3.33 should not be calling anyone else stupid.
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>>115337107
You still think that people make anime because they believe in it as an art form.
People make anime to make money, that's the harsh reality of the industry.
If you can save ridiculous amounts of money somewhere, money that either translates into more budget for other areas or just simply money you haven't spent, you're gonna do just that as a businessman, anything else would be retarded.

>>115337155
All of your criticism can be summed up as "muh feelings", so why should I bother to deal with that?
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Rei Q is just a really shitty decision that ultimately just results in a worse Rei Ayanami character, and the whole part of Rebuild (which HAS focused on Rei for two movies) to be fairly pointless.

It's stupid and I wish they had at least tried to hide their hateboner for Rei, but it's not really the worst thing about the movie at all.
It's that goddamned timeskip and complete refusal to focus on anything but goddamned Kaworu and Shinji, everything else is just borderline retarded now thanks to that.

Gendo just sits on his ass doing the Gendo pose and wins out, Misato is now a goddamned captain with some sort of retardation issue, and the rest is just fanservice.

>>115337214
I wouldn't want 3.33 in my netflix history.
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>>115337196
3.0 has better animation than 2.0 and 1.0
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>>115337379
>All of your criticism can be summed up as "muh feelings", so why should I bother to deal with that?
It can't, that's just your excuse. Your'e the one with the "muh feelings" issue here, going as far as to make up crazy narratives about everything being ironically bad instead of just accepting the objective truth, that it is bad.

You don't want to deal with the criticism because you can't. But "your feelings" tell you that you liked it, so you're stuck being a contrarian who even refuses to argue anything.

It WAS shit. You liked it, fine, you like shit.
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>>115337458
You are being delusional if you think that the way you feel about a movie is the only correct way to think about that movie.
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>>115337379
You realize that you're using a capitalistic motive to defend what is a poor product?

Yes it's made to make money for sure, that isn't even up for discussion so bringing it up does nothing for your case here.

Even if you do that, when we look at it as a physical, sold product (the BD's and DVD's), it sold less than 2.22. That would be a testament to it's inferiority, and since we're talking markets here, 3.33 had absurd marketing and hype, so it should have sold more were it a better product.

I don't really care about this side, but by every single POV you're wrong.

3.33 WAS shit.
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>>115337196
It upsets me that people like you who say things like 'michael bay explosions' to refer to any sort of destruction-fuelled action scene exist and watch anything I watch.
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>>115337594
>3.33 WAS shit.

We've heard that song for 2 whole freaking years now, go back to bed Reifag.
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>>115337594
What am I defending right now?
The use of 3DCG in the movie.
It's kinda funny just how serious people are about their irrational hatred for what is effectively a slightly above anime film.
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>>115337532
That goes for you. I'm not the one saying you can't like it. I'm defending your right to like it actually. To feel about it.

However I'm not defending the fact that it's somehow flawless. It is very flawed and is actually a really crappy movie when analyzed and criticized. You can still like it however.

Just means you have shit taste really.
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>>115337701
Where have a I claimed that it was flawless?
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>>115337658
No, this one is actually legit. The camera shake and the more or less harmless close-proximity explosions for show are almost trademark Bay.
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Why can't CG just fuck off again?
>It's laggy as hell
>it looks like shit
>everyone knows that you are being a jew when you use it
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>>115337772
Because it's really fucking cheap and doesn't look all that bad.
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>>115337732
Where have I claimed that you did? Get your fucking act together faggot.
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>>115336851
You do know your Shinji right? Anno is mocking you for being an asshole for hating her when she did nothing wrong at all, and shitting all over the truluv bs Reifag shippers have been parroting for the past few years failing to realize Shinji's affections were shallow, and bordered on dependency.
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>>115337841
>However I'm not defending the fact that it's somehow flawless
>I'm defending your right to like it actually. To feel about it.
These two statements in conjunction right there.
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>>115337883
None of these are making any claims about you there.

It is only making it clear that 3.33 is not flawless and as such has valid criticism, the problem here being that you don't want to deal with that fact and try to dismiss them with a trivialization such as "muh feelings".

Nice going there, showing that you are just stubborn. It's not worth talking with you any more after we've reached this point really.
A better man would admit he was wrong by now.
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>>115337680
>gets presented rational arguments
>hurr irrational hatred

What about your irrational love for the movie? Cut your dependency on EVA and stop being a fanboy.
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>>115338077
>It's not worth talking with you any more after we've reached this point really.
About damn time.
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>>115338143
But none of those arguments are rational.
Saying "It's shit because CGI" is wrong, since CGI is not a bad thing inherently, people just dislike it, because they're not use used to it.
I could do the others too, but I'm done after >>115338077.
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meh I preferred 3 over 2

still I hope a lot of stuff gets explained in 4
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>>115338223
>But none of those arguments are rational.
They are. You misrepresented them, the jarring effect has been pointed out in this thread more than once.

The only thing irrational in this thread is your desperation in defending what is by all considerations a pretty shitty movie.
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>>115338290
I just disproved the first one of them.
Read the entire post before replying.
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>meh I preferred 3 over 2
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>>115338338
>I just disproved the first one of them.
You didn't. You just trivialized it to "they dun like it", when the objective fact is that the 3DCG does not mesh well enough with the rest, producing a jarring effect. You're let on to the fact that "heeey, this is not real, this is 3DCG and you can clearly see that".

This is not something you can disprove, because the effect is real, it's reproducible and a often noted concern with viewers.

It's also something that you realize is not necessary when they do have the resources to avoid using it, there is no reason that Misato should be 3DCG when they can animate her just fine for instance.
Even in the past, the same director was capable of far better looking scenes without using 3DCG.
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>>115338516
It's not something you can prove either without trivilizing it as "i dun like it"
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>>115338578
Yes, it is proven by documenting the two forms of on-screen animation that contradict each other. The difference exists visibly.

You're going really far to avoid accepting the truth here. The 3DCG in itself isn't particularly impressive either, and the usage of it is inconsistent which only adds to the jarring effect.

Some scenes have a 2D character on top of a 3D scene, which makes them look like cardboard cutouts rather than a natural part of a scene. It's simply put not well done.
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All of the Rebuild movies have been bad so far.
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Each and every part of Asuka pleases me. Her vulnerability only makes her hotter.
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>>115338342
whoa... me mate... that is simply the most HELLA.F*CK'N. EP*C HAT MEME I'VE EVER SEEN INTHIS HERE THREAD ASTHEYSAY -_________________________-
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>>115339449
Which Asuka are you talking about?
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>>115333299

Rei is Kaworu's and Shinji's daughter while Mari is Asuka's and Shinji's daughter.
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Its threads like this that make me think eva fans deserve the rebuild series. It really is a match made in heaven.
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>>115340271
just like ur mom and muh dik
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I don't think any of the Rebuilds have been any good, but 2 was probably the most tolerable.

3 was pointless. God it was boring as shit. It's just Shinji being gay and miserable. That's it.

Why can't Anno go back to being depressed and brilliant?
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>>115324157
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFi1ZUfNwNw
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>>115341365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64LvX1Uvn-Y

Better.
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>be hyped for 3.0
>actually watch it
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>>115339664
It doesn't matter which one it is.

What matters is his plan.
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>>115342835
Please don't tell me that you like Asuka Shikinami
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>>115343043
I do.
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>>115343043
>being this hipster
>not accepting the new hotness like everybody else
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>>115342835
So he gave her an eyepatch, what's the next step in his master plan?
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>>115343203
Cashing out this franchise
WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>115343203
La Li Lu Le Lo
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>>115343203
Imagine an Evangelion game made by depressed Anno and Kojima

>>115343171
If being hipster means not eating shit then I'm gladly one
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>>115343296
A lot of loyalty for a dumb evafag.
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WHENEVER I MASTURBATE TO AN EVA DOUJIN I HAVE TO PRETEND ITS THE REBUILD CHARACTERS OR ELSE I FEEL GUILTY ABOUT JACKING OFF
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>>115343369
>Asuka is legal now
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>>115343296
>Imagine an Evangelion game made by depressed Anno and Kojima
I have, it's pretty good.
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>yfw the Wunder is hijacked by an even bigger Wunder in the next movie
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>Remember Shinji, You can (not) Redo

REALLY?
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>>115343369
>not exclusively beating it to loving vanilla eva doujins
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>HOW TO GUARANTEE RESPONSES
>1.) Post image from Q
>2.) Await the 70-75% butthurt from pokafags, shonenfags and EVA newfriends who can't accept the subversion of Ha
>3.) Await the 10-15% of EVA crusaders to uphold Q's honor from the bleating of babby's first experience of an Anno troll
>4.) Allow the remainder to most likely stir the pot, shitpost or give ambivalent opinions
>5.) Remember to refresh the page every 5-10 minutes to enjoy what you set into motion

Feeling good on a Wednesd/a/y
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>>115343609
There has been not that much Qposting in this thread
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Impact hit them so hard it reversed their evolutionary progress.

It's a reference to how the nuke hit Japan so hard they turned into absolute fucking retards, even worse than before.

Very deep.
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Reminder that 3.0+1.0 WILL make sense of 3.33 and completely convince everyone the Rebuilds are as good as EoE was.
Reminder that people spitting on 3.33 are the same faggots who saw NGE 12 years ago with the english dub and refuse to let go.
You're welcome.
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>>115343677
Because it's settled in for everyone what Q was shit, bare the lonesome EVA autistic crusader.
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>>115343043
Not even sure what you dislike; her character hasn't been articulated yet. Likely won't, either

Doesn't matter anyhow: EVA is Shinji's story. Always was that way, but anime had more time to fill and Anno was a bit more free-wheeling/improvisational with her development

EVA will forever be Shinji: The Existential Ride
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>>115343745
Reminder that people who like 3.0 are shitposting trolls and/or fujoshits.
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>>115343745
I made that image and 3.33 was shit.

Reminder that people not spitting on 3.33 are the scum of the fanbase and are actively outing themselves are unintelligent moefags who never understood Rebuild or NGE in the first place.

Reminder that 3.33 will forever be the movie that broke Rebuild's back, and 3.0+1.0 can only ever aspire to be a wheelchair.
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>>115343837
NGE was Shinji's story
RoE is about the actual story
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>>115343863
Reminder people like you are one of a kind in the entire thread proxying up their opinions.
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>>115343901
>NGE was Shinji's story
>RoE is about the actual story

The fuck
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>>115343769
I don't understand how that fellow sleeps at night.
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>>115343901
Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've heard in a while.

>the actual story
>it's just a bunch of bullshit with no real story except retarded pandering

>>115343953
Probably while hugging his five tear-stained imported 3.33 BD's.
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>>115343953
better than you do since he doesn't need everyone else to comply to their opinions to confirm their existence was not a waste
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>>115343893
>Reminder that 3.33 will forever be the movie that broke Rebuild's back, and 3.0+1.0 can only ever aspire to be a wheelchair.
Perfect.
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>>115344004
Thanks for making me crack up there.
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>>115343901
What.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh0qbJAQhgk
Anno is so fucking autistic holy shit
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>>115343901
Didn't Anno himself call Rebuild "Shinji's story" or something? it's why so much focus is on him
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>>115344162
He's a full-blown otaku m8.
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>>115340271
even though I'm injecting undeserved depth of thought into your banal post, anime fans always deserve what EVA does to them...and in particular, EVA fans deserve what EVA does to them

the prior was NGE's effect: an anti-anime ensconced in all the most refined, desired trappings of anime tropes and wish fulfillment. it fucked up the viewers expectations by essentially vituperating them for how self-involved and isolated they've become, deforming, mutilating and inverting all the aspects of the characters and plot they'd typically use to escape reality and feel comfortable

the latter is Rebuild's effect: baiting the NGE devotees into thinking they were finally going to get the complementation to all the character dilemmas and dramas they wished would've happened with the original series. just when they thought they were going to get their ultimate fanfic, Anno once again dumped the table over, stripping Shinji (viewer) of even the few positive relationships they counted on as "given" from NGE and placing them even further in a place of bewilderment and isolation from their desired hugboxes

NGE said, "grow up, anime fans;" Rebuild says, "you're not allowed to use EVA to avoid the world, NGE obsessives. I thought I told you to grow up"

hysterically, he makes tons of money from their continued dependence, in large part due to the mastery with which he crafts the parts of his anime that are attractive to anime addicts (extremely desirable female characters and an MC the viewer relates to implicitly [whether they admit it to themselves or not]). so great
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>>115343940
>>115344000
>>115344066
>>115344177

The third movie starts, 14 years have passed since third impact.
Almost everything is completely different from NGE.
It is also called You can (not) redo, which also makes sense in the story of the Rebuilds.
EoE was released in 1997, Eva 3.33 2012.
I think that this cannot be a coincidence.
It's basically Anno saying: Yeah, I can't redo NGE and I'm not even trying to. You want more Eva, this is how I'm doing it now.
He is telling another story reflecting him moving on from his depression, thus more action scenes because he doesn't want to focus as much on the psychology of the characters.
NGE was focusing more on Shinji and the characters developing, RoE is more about the actual story.
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>>115344389
Rebuild isn't saying that exactly. It's pretty much creating a pandering buffet so that the cycle of dependence will go on pretty much forever.

Especially the new EVA world is crafted to lure people into pointless speculation about the entirely vapid mythos surrounding these highly commercialized characters.....

It's inviting people again to do that exact same escapism thing without any of the effects you're describing.

I don't know what >>115344512
meant by that image, but what you wrote is just pseudo-intellectual masturbation that doesn't describe reality at all.
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>>115344389
You are so fucking deluded it's incredible.
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>>115344611
>EoE was released in 1997, Eva 3.33 2012.
>I think that this cannot be a coincidence.
Do I need a tinfoil hat to see this.... coincidence?
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>>115344004
3.0 may have been shit but I didn't lose any sleep over it.
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>>115344611
....but Rebuild 3.33 has less focus on the story and more on just Shinji.

is it a requirement to have a sub-zero IQ to like this movie or something
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>>115344701
I think that anon is high.
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>>115344782
>is it a requirement to have a sub-zero IQ to like this movie or something
Highly likely.
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>>115344785
Makes sense.
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3.33 was like another shoah
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>what the fuck did i just watch thread: eoe edition
>at the same time, a what the fuck did i just watch thread: rebuild edition
i'm not sure why, but this feels satisfying. like all is right in the world of /a/. it feels like its been awhile since we've had an actual, full discussion of eva
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>sohryu goin straight for the goods
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>>115337214
BTFO
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>>115346869
>actual discussion
>on /a/
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What do you think Shinji would be like if he didn't have to get inside robots or deal with the shit he had to?
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>>115347939
GoS 2, Angelic days, ect

Or a cameo in a shitty spiderman AU apparently
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2 was great, 1 was meh, 3 was horrible.
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>>115347939
I'd be okay with a Marvel adaptation of Eva.

It'd probably turn out to be glorious trainwreck, especially with the combination of Marvel's multiverse and Eva's time loops.
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>>115349315
I'd be okay with you shutting the fuck up and never saying something as retarded as that again.
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>>115344701
14-15 year time span, faggot.

Just like the 14-15 year time skip.

And yeah Rebuild is more about expanding the story/lore/mythos/mechanics, possibly for further spin offs or a new series. Anno said so himself.
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>>115347316
soryu is best



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