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Wait, isn't this a massive plot hole? How does he have the necklace, when Archer gave it back to Rin?
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Rin thought so too.
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Not sure if bait, or just a secondary.
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You have good eye to actually realize this. The answer is a big spoiler. I mean a REALLY BIG ONE.
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>>115309809
>>115309838
Then forget I asked.
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Not a plot hole, just the opposite.
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>>115309759
Typical shit tier studio who can't even adapt things correctly, leaving in huge plot holes like this. What a fucking joke.
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Oh gee, I dunno.
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>>115309838
Speaking of this spoiler, I miss gar.
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>>115309759
Archer is actually the remnants of the soul of rin's dad which is why he has it
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what the fuck are you talking about? lol
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Shirou kept that pendant on him pretty much constantly as a good luck charm and to remember the person who saved his life.

So he just gave it back to Rin when he got summoned as her Servant.
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>>115309984
>lol
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>>115309992
The pendant then actually worked as a catalyst to summon Shirou.
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>>115309992
Never got this. He didn't remember his past, yet he gave HIS pendant back to Rin?
Did he remember when he saw Shirou had it too?
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>>115310016
best girl
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Why didn't they animate the ressurection scene?
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>>115310059
probably this
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>>115309992

Which of the three girls did Archer sleep with in his route?

Saber, Rin or Sakura?
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>>115310170
Ilya
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>>115310059
He never lost his memory in the first place dumbass he just pretended to so Rin won't ask who he was.
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>>115310170
He went Ilya route because he gave no fucks
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>>115310170
In the normal Route: Saber
In UBW: Rin
In Heaven's Feel's : Sakura (4-6 times lol)
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>>115310170
Some speculate Ilya
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>>115310059
He remembered more of his past earlier than he lets on. He intentionally doesn't update Rin about what he knows.
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>>115310170
""What is that, Archer…!?"
"We can talk later. Run, kid. You took Ilya's hand, so protect her until the very end."

Archer slows down a bit and goes behind us.
…At that instant.
Right before he leaves, he gives Ilya a look heavy with regret."
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>>115309759
You noticed it. Ufotable doing it's job.
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>>115309856
boko no shirou is the redman
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>>115310170
Taiga
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>>115310243
>Damn it, why did I never tap that?
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>>115310209
>>115310232
>>115310243

Can I say I find it disturbing that he would sleep with his adopted father's daughter?
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>>115310170
Issei
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>>115310296

A homunculus is fine too.
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>>115309759

Archer is Shirou from the future and he still has the necklace, so he gives her a diferent one.

Next time don't ask silly question
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>>115310296
NOT BLOOD RELATED

>Captcha: Luke oldherw
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>>115310296
Said father was fucking a talking magic circuit that was (also) only a few years old, and whose soul purpose in life was to become a cup.
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>>115310412

But their love was so pure!
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>>115310170
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>>115309863

Plot.. bump? Hill? Mountain?
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>>115310237
That's what I thought.
>>115310201
This is false.
>dumbass
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>>115310517
Plot cock
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>>115310645
Plock
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>>115310620
>false
except that is exactly what happened, secondary
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>>115310201
debatable. It's kinda ambiguous if you ask me
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>>115310201
>>115310620
>>115310702
He never "lost" his memory but a great deal of it wore off with time because of his age and spending an eternity as a guardian.
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>>115310730

Aren't the only two memories which are permanently burned into him the fire and seeing Saber standing over him for the first time?
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>>115310170
All of them before going MoS and murdering every single person involved in the HGW and then going counter-guardian to murder scores of other unrelated humans.
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How did Lancer know that Shirou was revived? It was an hour or so after he died. How did Rin know that Lancer was going to stalk Shirou?
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>>115310702
>secondary
Nice assumption.
>100 hours
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>>115311593
Lancer was controlled by Kotomine, who probably kept close tabs and eyes and other things on his former rival's adopted son.
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>>115312371
Judging from the way he reacts to hearing his name during that first church scene, Kotomine had no idea Shirou even existed before the fifth war happened.

>>115311593
Probably Kotomine just sent people to clean up the school or something and noticed they didn't find any corpse.
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So hows the HS subs compared to commies?
Ep 1's translation irked me here are there.
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>>115312469
Commie's subs irked you? They're better than HS, at the very least. Aniplex keeps fucking shit up.
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>>115309759
Read the VN you Goddamn secondaries
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>>115312575
There have been like, two mistakes in the CR script. One of which has already been fixed.
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>>115312575
-.- oh well sticking to commie i guess.
Thanks
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>>115312671
So? That doesn't make it okay. And they're probably not going to stop making mistakes.
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>>115312711
It's not that it's okay somehow, but I honestly do not see how Commie's or even UTW's are any better when they all have mistakes.
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>>115312781
Such as?
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>>115309759
Now this is probably trolling. But the honest answer is "Hmmm good question IT MIGHT MAYBE BE FUCKING IMPORTANT OR SOMETHING".

Fucking retards, you just don't get foreshadowing
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>>115312575
But v2 happened.
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>>115312671
These aren't minor typos, these are huge mistakes that never shouldve been made at all. Fansubbers going for literal translations never would have before.
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>>115310348
but shiro didn't see Rin so how whould he know who it belongs to?

and servents aren't the actual hero so unless the lengends say he has the neckless he shouldn't have it
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>>115310296
What about the part where he possibly fucked King Arthur in the pussy?
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>>115312695
Don't use emotes. Trust me
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>>115309759
Don't listen to these liars >>115309954 and >>115310348 . Archer created the necklace he gave to Rin like he created his swords, it's only here to show that he cares about her, nothing deeper than that.
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>>115315321
read the damn VN
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>>115315473
Magi can perform rituals to borrow their power to mimic them, but cannot summon actual Heroic Spirits themselves
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>>115315473
I skimmed throught it and got

Magi can perform rituals to borrow their power to mimic them, but cannot summon actual Heroic Spirits themselves
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>>115315799
Archer isn't a normal Heroic Spirit. He's a Counter Guardian that formes a pact with the world.
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>>115310243
>Right before he leaves, he gives Ilya a look heavy with regret."

Ain't it the fact that he know Iliya will die soon? Due to beign a homonculus
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>>115315013
>huge mistakes that never shouldve been made at all
Anon, please.
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>>115315922
Because Shirou of his timeline lacks the knowledge to save her.
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>>115315922
If "regret" is an accurate translation, then that wouldn't really fit. Regret is something you feel when there is something you wish you had done differently. Her mortality in itself is not something suitable for regret. If he is regretting things of his own timeline, it seems probable that it would be that she became the grail in his war. But maybe he's even regretting things in the current war.
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Hey op, just cause these chucklefucks are gonna feed you false info-

Archer is shiro. He got his wish to be a hero. Blam.

This should become hilariously obvious about 10 hours before it becomes a plot point anyways, they arnt exactly subtle outside the whole gem thing.
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>>115310459

Unlimited Bone Works
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>>115317464
>Archer is shiro. He got his wish to be a hero. Blam.
If Archer is Shiro then how they can exist simulateonsly? Do you even logic?
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>>115317607
Quantum superposition
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Even if you don't know anything about Fate the first 2 episode clearly told you that Shirou is Your mom
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>>115317788
Shirou would be a fantastic mother
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>>115317788
Well he cooks as well as my mother, at least.
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>>115317788
Fate prototype: never.
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I wish you ironic frodos would rot in hell.
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>>115317464
How did he became one?
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>>115309878
Shiro is a cutiepie.
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>>115318025
Sticked to his naive ideals
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>>115309759
FORESHADOWING
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Did they actually specifically mention this in the VN? I don't remember it. If they did, that's kind of giving away the whole Red Man twist before UBW even starts.
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>>115318137
They do. In every route he picks up the gem and keeps it on him. It only ever comes up in UBW when he's at Tohsakas and finds her copy of it in her dresser.
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>>115318137
Secondaries need extra guidance, just look at this thread.
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>>115318137
Lies, you don't even read it. Too obvious secondary.
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>>115318137
Stop pretending you read the VN.
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>>115318137
They make it painfully fucking obvious. Archer gives rin back the pendant right before she goes "OH SHIT" and goes to 'save shirou', which is when archer almost gets decapitated and the prologue ending with saber standing over rin holding her sword to rins throat.
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>>115318025
Wait. I thought heroes can't become counter guardians?
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>>115319175
Counter Guardians and Heroic Spirits both live in the Throne of Heroes. The difference is Heroic Spirits are mainly just summoned as servants and lose all memories of their summoning, while Counter Guardians are regularly summoned to act as the planets immune system and they maintain the memories of their summoning.

Becoming a Counter Guardian really only entails selling your soul to the planet.
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>>115319175
What's the logic behind that thought?
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>>115319716
Where does the mana to summon Counter Guardians come from? Is it still the grail? If so does that mean the world is fucked once the holy grail is dismantled after the 5th grail war?
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>>115319909
It comes from Gaia.
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>>115319909
From Alaya i believe.
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>>115309838
You don't need a good eye to catch it, you just need to be paying attention. He's stupid for not realizing it with just a bit of thought. Theres only two possibilities even.
1, Archer projected it
2, Archer is Shirou
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Off the topic I'm playing Fate/hollow ataraxia. How many hours it take for you to fnish ? I hope it would be very long cause its awsome.
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>>115321687

3. Archer managed to sneak it out of Shirou's pocket on his way out of the school during the large gap in in-universe time neither was explicitly onscreen, implying he's up to his own devices without telling Rin.

That'd be a more rational conclusion for secondaries to jump to.



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