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>"I am the bone of my sword..."
What the fuck does that even mean?
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Well, he would like to bone his sword.
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>>115283288

It's gibberish that sounds cool.

just like the rest of fate/shit is just hastily slapped together shit.
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>>115283288
That Nasu can't into the American language.
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>>115283288
体は剣で出来ている
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>>115283288
Magic is an organic synthesis from the magical circuits of a person. They don't synthesize objects so much as living things. The swords Archer creates are organic living and breathing entities with their own organs and skeletal systems. When he is the bone of his sword, he is literally the bone of his swords. He is the spinal column of his blades and they are like the limbs and other bones that branch off.
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>>115283364
Why is the Red Man talking in American anyway? Isn't he Japanese like Shirou?
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>>115283364
>American
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>>115283288
That his body of made of swords, literally.
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>>115283288
His bones are swords
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Don't you want to sword your bone?
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>>115283288
He is made of swords therefore his bones are swords.
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>>115283450
He's not incorrect, the Americans have created their own language.
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>>115283439
Well that clears that up, thanks anon.
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>>115283364
You mean broken and misspelled English, right? Yea, I can't into that either.
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>>115283288
Did you mean "bane"? See in you fall semester, Aachaa.
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>>115283465
>>115283471
>>115283523
Why doesn't he say: "My bones are made of steel" then?
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He is quite literally the bone of his sword though.
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>>115283439
Like when Kiritsugu made special bullets out of his spine?
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>>115283678
that sounds stupid
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>>115283678
Because that doesn't sound as cool.
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>>115283727
his ribs.

and yes those embrace the severing/reconnecting origin of his, like archer's sword origin
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i am the bone of my dick
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cSKxSBKxpE
I only just now realizes how similar this is to Queen's "I Want It All".
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Tell me about the whit man! Why doesn't he use the bow!?
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>>115283288
that means he is what makes his sword strong. A body without the skelleton is just a puddle of flash.
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>>115283853
>puddle of flash
>flash
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>>115283732
>My bones are steel, fire fills my blood
How about now?
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because the english translation is a loose translation:

His body is made out of swords
His blood is of iron and his heart of glass
He survived through countless battles
Not even once retreating
Not even once being understood
He was always alone
Intoxicated with victory in a hill of swords
Thus, his life has no meaning
That body was certainly made out of swords
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>>115283932
>Steel is my body
Can't talk about steel twice
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>>115283999
>heart of glass
Why is the red man so gay?
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>>115283836
>shorts
>not panties
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>>115284104
he lost everything so his heart is no longer organic
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>>115283288
UFOTable is fucking adorable
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Why cant shirou hold himself?
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>>115283288
It literally means that he is his swords.

Like, seriously. He IS a sword. And his swords are just aspects of that one 'sword'.
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>>115283932
That sounds better
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>>115283539
Mexican?
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>>115283999
Except that chant is a different one. There's multiple UBW chants. The one Archer says in English isn't a translation, it's the original text as written by Nasu.
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>>115284344
(American) English.
>colour -> color
You'd think with all that cutting corners shit they'd start using the metric system but I guess they think it's too un-American.
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>>115283632
BANE?
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>>115284267
Because miracle of the world.

>>115283288
It doesn't have to mean anything, it's a hypnotic self-suggestion to make him able to focus to use his magic.
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>>115284547
>muh metric system
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>>115283678
He does.
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>>115284681
>muh retard system
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>>115284248
Ufotable is so fucking moe, holy shit.
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>>115284681
There is literally no reason not to use the metric system over the imperial system.
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>>115283288
His body is the foundation of his swords, literally and metaphorically.

And/or bad Engrish.
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>>115284486
The english chant is ruby text, and ruby isn't always a direct translation of the japanese text.

Did you watch Inou-Battle 2? Something like that.
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>>115283288
The sword is his boner.
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>>115284846
changing all the instances of imperial to metric
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>>115283288
It is a fucking metaphor, anon, have you heard of them? It's when you use an interpretive comparison to evoke an emotion or communicate an idea. "All the world's a stage" does not literally mean he thinks the world is a gigantic stage. Please be less fucking stupid.

"I am the bone of my sword" could just as easily be read/interpreted as something like "I am the skeleton," "I am the foundation," "I am the origin," whatever. He is the core and the supporting structure of his sword; without him his sword would lack form and substance, for he is what makes it recognizably a sword. Without your femur, your leg isn't so much a leg as it is a badly-knitted lump of flesh and sinew.

Do you also think that when he says "Steel is my body and fire is my blood" he is made of metal and his blood is alight?
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>>115284486
It's the same chant just written in Japanese. Nasu uses his own "translation" much like his use of german words for Rin's spells but for a Japanese reader that can only read Japanese that's what they see (pretty much obviously it's been properly translated into English).
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>>115285113
I just said that the English isn't a translation, it's the original. Archer literally speaks it aloud, in English.
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I AM DA BONE OF MAI SWORD

Who cares? It sounds cool, that scene with both of them chanting was one of the high points.
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>>115285255
It's written like that in the VN however at the very beginning, both Japanese and English are written and whenever it is written in English it is also written in Japanese.
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>>115285352
Keep in mind voice was added after words, so both English and Japanese versions were always written together.
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Will Shirou say his better this time? I'm fine with Engrish but he missed out half the words.
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>>115285243
Would make everything run far more efficiently in the long-run.
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>>115285352
Except the Japanese isn't in the script. It's a translation of the original English. If the Japanese were the original text then Archer would have spoken it in Japanese. But he didn't. Because his magic chant is in English, just like how Rin's magic is in German.
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>>115285411
Why does no-one give deen credit for the voice casting?
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>>115285677
It is in the script, have you not read the VN? Check it you'll see. Archer doesn't say the whole of it during UBW, the only time you see the whole thing is at the start of the route, where both English and Japaese versions are written.
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>>115285723
That is a point, they should get credit for that, too bad the script of the anime itself wasn't all that great.
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>>115285823
To be fair adapting an anime with three very distinct routes and minimal budget isn't an easy task. The worse thing Deen did was failing to convey Shirou's mental instability which is the core of his character development within the narrative.
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>>115285245
>Do you also think that when he says "Steel is my body and fire is my blood" he is made of metal and his blood is alight?
But the Redman is really made of swords.
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If you translate the Japanese version, it's actually supposed to say that his body is made out of swords.
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>>115286105
Why would you attempt mix the 3 that makes no sense. They should have stuck with one and it would have helped if they hadn't chose the one with the worst storyline of the 3, or had some intention to properly adapt all 3.
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>>115283419
Body is made out of swords
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>>115283288
If I had to make a wild ass guess, Nasu could have picked this up somewhere.

>"In ancient China, a good sword was made by 'throwing a man into a furnace'. It helps to melt the metal and creates the pure iron that we can further hammer. In Taiwan, there were not many people who studied how to forge a good sword. So when I first made a sword, I did not succeed. In the past there's been a saying that if one wants to make a good sword, one needs human bones. By chance, my friend was collecting bones (from the deceased). Then I just asked him to give me some human bones for forging swords."

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/09/090908-taiwan-sword-video-ap.html
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>>115286517
>Why would you attempt mix the 3 that makes no sense.
Adaptions are targeted at the existing fanbase thus the rabid otaku filth tend to get angry when their waifu's route isn't included.
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>>115286883
>implying nips dont love saibah
they should have gone with it and the UBW movie after it (without the first 3 days to cut down on time needed to explain shit)
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It sounds good, though, doesn't it? Sounds right for some reason. Like "Take On Me" or something
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>>115285668
>the long-run
America is ran on business
If you don't do good in the short-run, you're fucked
Long story short: America will never switch to metric in public use
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>>115287293
>America is ran on business
The rest of the world is using the metric system and it's not like you just switch over night. First you start educating children and by the time they start moving into jobs the transition would be smooth.
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As someone that was taught the metric system and is forced to used the imperial system because of my profession.

The imperial system is pile of crap, it's inferior to metric in every way that matters outside of a few easier numbers which are nullified by the fact you have to deal with conversion factors. Also the non-dimensionalization of units is mess. Catch up with the rest of the world America. Your unit system is sub par.
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Do all VNs progress that damn slow? It's been 3 or 4 hours and I only just now got to the Archer Lancer fight.
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>>115283445
He's clearly wearing white man. Jeez can't you into colors.
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>>115287814
Try Muv-Luv if you think Fate is slow.
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>>115287874
So it's normal? I might as well just use my VM for MS Paint.
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>>115287874
>Try Muv-Luv
Oh you.
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>>115287814
Nigga you haven't even scraped the surface.
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>>115287955
>why is this visual NOVEL so long?
Why do you think they were able to stretch 2/5 of the VN into 25 episodes?
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>>115286675

Why does Shirou never at least hug Sakura?

He never even visits her in the dojo.
God it's so frustrating watching him be so distant toward her, especially when she even cooks for him almost every day.
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There were over fifty thousand people alive in this town, the day before we arrived. How many are alive today, I wonder? How many will be alive tomorrow?
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>>115287874
Muv-Luv sucks
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>>115283288
This whole shit is from an eroge, so it's clearly a very obvious sexual metaphor.
Bone means penis.
Sword means penis.
So a good translation would be: "I am the dick of my cock."
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>>115287814
yes, they do. VNs are made by small teams where the writer isnt getting held back by an editor that cuts the crap and compiles it
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>>115288217
he keeps his distance on purpose because he doesnt want to damage the relationship they have at the moment
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>>115285245
Every thread one of us posts this yet there are still these threads.

When will retards learn?
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>>115288273
Extra's pretty shit, I'll give you that.
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>>115288350
From a hug? Is cooties that bad in nippon?
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>>115288443
Alternative sucks too.
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>>115288479
nigga hugging her would at least require consent from both their parents, and since shirou has none that shit doesnt fly.
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He is the hilt of his sword, from where the blade comes.
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>>115288479
He can barely look at her without humping her, a hug would break him.
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>>115288552

>consent for a mere hug
What the fuck am I reading?

But it's okay for her to come into his house and cook for him?
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>>115288479
Any touch feel interaction between boys and girls in japan give them both serious case of dokidokidoshio.
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>>115285668
>implying the colonies care about efficiency
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>>115288479
if you read the VN you should know how poorly he can handle intimate shit with girls. Everytime he lets himself go he snaps and goes full rape mode
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>>115288217
It's his friend's younger sister.
He's a person whose first impulse, after being pierced through the heart and miraculously coming back to life, is to get a mop and clean up the blood. What did you expect?
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>>115288701
>mere hug
what the fuck man.

Also the cooking is just a kohai caring for her senpai, nothing wrong with that.
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>>115288503
You're entitled to your opinion, anon.
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>>115287814
Most VNs are extremely slow at the beggining.

Fate is just extra slow, but once it reaches the good parts, the ride never stops.
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>>115283678
They are not just steel, they are swords
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>>115288503
Lets keep the baits on track here, m80,
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>>115288732
So if she ran up and hugged him out of the blue, would THE JACKHAMMER be released?
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>>115288732
>Everytime he lets himself go he snaps and goes full rape mode
That's the result of mandatory H scenes, Shirou HAS to fuck them but it's totally out of character so Nasu has to make up shit like "mana-transfer" to justify character having sex in the most inappropriate situations.
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>>115288853
I know I am faggot.
>>115288933
Alternative is crap. And everyone who likes it is a fagslut.
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>>115288890
with the good part being at 90% of the fate route. Seriously if it wasnt for the promise of porn I wouldnt have read it.

but damn the ending had me feel really sad but satisfied.

>>115288971
he almost goes mad when he and toshaka are squeezed together to hide for the foreigner Hugging would release the jackhammer 100%.

>>115288980
nah, he could just go steady like rin asks him, but instead he loses control and jackhammers her like crazy.
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So if Cu uses Gae Bolg at the same time as Saber uses Avalon, doesn't Gae Bolg hit her before she uses Avalon because of the causality warp?
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>>115289061
Don't make me alternative my fist into your face.
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>>115283288
"I am the bone of my sword" is Engrish furigana for the Japanese under it that means "My body is made of swords".
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>>115289097
>he almost goes mad when he and toshaka are squeezed together to hide for the foreigner Hugging would release the jackhammer 100%.
Shirou is basically a sexual Hulk
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>>115289183
You can alternative whatever you want with me, that won't change the fact that Muv-Luv is a crap series, with a shit MC.
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>>115289170
What the fuck are you smoking? Avalon is way way better than fucking Gae Bolg.
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>>115289264
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Is turning your nerves into circuits something anyone can do to use magic without having circuits of their own (at risk of death or disability), or do you need to already have circuits to be able to do that and therefore it's totally redundant and moronic?
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>>115289320
I'm not arguing that. I just mean that causality warping could mean that, if they're used at the same time, Gae Bolg stabs Saber before she enters Avalon.
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>>115283288
I thought it was stupid until I found that his UBW aria (the thing he says before casting UBW) is only meant to put him in a trance. What he says doesn't even matter so long as its meaningful to him.

In other words, hes only saying shit that sounds cool to him. Broken english sounds like something Shirou would think is cool
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>>115289338
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He himself is the raw materials his swords are made of, which does make a lot of sense, at least people who actually know more than a single meaning of the word "bone".
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>I am the bone of my sword
体は剣で出来ている。(My body is made of swords)
>Steel is my body, and fire is my blood
血潮は鉄で心は硝子。(My blood is of iron and my heart of glass)
>I have created over a thousand blades
幾たびの戦場を越えて不敗。(I have survived through countless battles undefeated)
>Unknown to death
ただの一度も敗走はなく、(Not even once retreating,)
>Nor known to life
ただの一度も理解されない。(Not even once being understood.)
>Have withstood pain to create many weapons
彼の者は常に独り 剣の丘で勝利に酔う。(Always alone, on the hill of swords, intoxicated with victory)
>Yet, those hands will never hold anything
故に、生涯に意味はなく (Thus, this life has no meaning)
>So as I pray, unlimited blade works
その体は、きっと剣で出来ていた。 (This body, was surely made out of swords)


>I am the bone of my sword
体は剣で出来ている。(My body is made out of swords)
>Steel is my body and fire is my blood
血潮は鉄で心は硝子。(My blood is of iron and my heart of glass)
>I have created over a thousand blades
幾たびの戦場を越えて不敗 (I have survived through countless battles undefeated)
>Unaware of loss
ただの一度の敗走もなく (Not even once retreating)
>Nor aware of gain
ただの一度の勝利もなし。(Not even once victorious)
>Withstood pain to create weapons, waiting for one’s arrival
担い手はここに孤り 剣の丘で鉄を鍛つ。(The bearer lies here alone, forging iron on the hill of swords)
>I have no regrets. This is the only path
ならば、わが生涯に意味は不要ず。(Thus, this life needs no meaning)
>My whole life was unlimited blade works
この体は、無限の剣で出来ていた。(This body is made out of unlimited swords)
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>>115289375
Avalon is a Marble Phantasm of the fairies that offers a seven-dimensional presence. Time is one of those seven dimensions, if she has Avalon then the activation condition becomes pointless as trying to reverse the chain of cause and effect along a fourth dimensional access ceases to have meaning in a conceptual universe immune to the ravages of that dimension, as well as any interdimensional interference.
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>>115289375
>Cu winning

What is wrong with you?
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Why would anyone want to be made of swords? They're terrible weapons.

I'd rather want maces or halberds.
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>>115289363
It's basically self-mutilation.
Shirou should by all rights be a vegetable after 5 years of frying his nerves.
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>>115289414
All this edge
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>>115289478
Fuck off.

>>115289430
That doesn't make sense the way you're trying to conceptualize it, or she'd never be hurt by anything because that fourth dimensional interference protection would retroactively extend in both directions. Avalon's not as omnipotent as you think, it's good but it has its weaknesses, namely an activation condition for the dust.
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>>115289491
Axe is the only semi-useful weapon.
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>>115289170
No, Bulge is just a regular cursed weapon while Avalon is true magic and is the same tier as EA, the ultimate attacking NP.
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>>115289564
Ea's Mother Goddess tier, Avalon's just a Marble Phantasm. Their conceptual strength is way different, Avalon just happens to be really compatible with Ea.

Gae Bolg's also just below Authority level, as of CCC. Except it's better than an Authority because, unlike real ones, you don't have to pay the cost for use in the modern world. Welcome to the post-CCC Nasuverse.
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>>115289381
Isn't that true of most magic? I thought Rin explained that magic words and all that aren't actually needed, they just put you in the right state of mind for casting.
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Can anyone post the original Japanese version of Rin's following quote? "The world is just another word for the things you value around you, right? That's something I've had since I was born. If you tell me to rule such a world, I already rule it."
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>>115289518
You might say it's unlimited edge. Edge like you might find on a sword, also referred to as a blade.
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>>115285113
>>115285255

And they were meant to be seen together:

I am the bone of my sword
<His body is made out of swords>
Steel is my body and fire is my blood
<His blood is of iron and his heart of glass>
I have created over a thousand blades
<He survived through countless battles>
Unknown to Death,
<Not even once retreating>
Nor known to Life
<Not even once being understood>
Have withstood pain to create many weapons
<He was always alone, Intoxicated with victory in a hill of swords>
Yet, those hands will never hold anything
<Thus, his life has no meaning>
So as I pray, unlimited blade works.
<That body was certainly made out of swords>
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>>115289532
>that fourth dimensional interference protection would retroactively extend in both directions

You mean "exactly what it does in the legend"?
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>>115289627
I'll grant you that, but Avalon still has seventh-dimensional interference protection, and specifies that interdimensional interference fails. Time warp's interdimensional interference along the fourth.
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>>115286789
That's literally the basis of the legend of the swords that Archer uses.
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>>115289749
Confirmed for not having read anything Arthurian. Fucking secondary.
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>>115289784
>Time warp
That's fragarach.
Gae Bolg is cause-effect, neither is a dimension, they're just concepts
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>>115289853
The reversal of cause and effect is time manipulation. It's dimensional in the sense of time being a fourth dimensional axis, and Avalon works up to the seventh.

It's a conceptual curse that leads to a dimensional effect.
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>>115284248
2moe4me
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>>115289414
I wonder if the difference between not even once being victorious and not even once being understood because is because in UBW Rin understands Shirou.

Or is such a statement simply not important to Shirou anymore.
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>>115289414
>I am the bone of my post
>/a/ is my body, and /u/ is my blood
>I have created over a thousand threads
>Unknown to /b/
>Nor known to moot
>Have withstood pain to survive many shitposts
>Yet, those hands will never type anything
>So as I pray, unlimited board works
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>>115289915
It does not manipulate time. It manipulates the concepts of cause and effect so that the cause becomes "The heart is pierced" and the effect becomes "Lancer thrusts his lance."
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>>115289915
But Cu's luckstat is so low that he never gets that twenty he needs to gib people. Isnt it sad. Cu-chan?
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>>115289915
>The reversal of cause and effect is time manipulation.
It really isn't.
The world fixes the bullshit reversal with stuff that looks like time/space warping but that's only a byproduct of the skill.
Even if you remove the "how", the fact that Gae Bolg struck heart is still true.
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>>115290154
>the fact that Gae Bolg struck heart is still true.
Except when it isn't.

Which is every time he uses it.
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>>115283288
My bones are the structure of my swords
My body is steel and my blood is fire.
I have forged over a 1000 blades with my freaky body.
I can't die with this body nor can I live.
It hurts to create so many swords
I can't even hole anything else I have so many swords.
Praying like this I can forge an unlimited number of blades.
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>>115283818
>That song.
Holy shit, I want to keep up with Archer.
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>>115290255
Wrong.
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>>115290281
Kotomine vs. Andersen at their strongest.

Who wins?
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>>115290255
Strictly speaking, he's only used the Spear of Impaling Barbed Death twice, once against Saber and once more against Bazett. It didn't work against Saber because she has a strong affinity against it, but Bazett couldn't do anything against it. Only Impaling Barbed Death has the causality-reversal trait.

Striking Death Flight is different. Unlike Impaling Barbed Death, Striking Death Flight is literally just a javelin throw. There's no causality reversal involved. However, its sheer destructive force, range and number of units affected far exceeds Impaling Barbed Death.
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>>115283364
But American is gibberish.
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>>115290339
Andersen's basically Ciel, so Andersen.
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>>115290339
At their strongest?

So Kotomine in the prime of his life charged by ten Command Spells and his mentality fortified by absolute zeal?

I can't see Anderson winning.
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>>115290360
Pretty sure the thrown version still has the effect of hitting no matter how many times it's dodged.
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>>115290646
That's Hrunting, Beowulf's sword.
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Did you know that Fate threads a shit?
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>>115290738
Only the ones without Rin.
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>>115290682
They're comparing Gae Bolg to other NP's and saying it has the property of always hitting here aren't they?
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>>115290646
Nope. It may have some homing properties, but nothing as effective as the causality reversal of Impaling Barbed Death.

Actually, Striking Death Flight DOES have a property that, on paper, makes it "undodgable". Gae Bolg is a weapon that brings to mind "barbs" and "thorns". The reason Impaling Barbed Death is so deadly once it hits its target isn't merely the fact that the heart is pierced. Once it hits the target heart, it then proceeds to spread countless barbs throughout the insides of the victim's body. In other words, rather than merely stopping at pierces the heart, it's the absolute destruction of the body from within. However, this effect only comes into play once the heart, specifically, has been pierced.

Striking Death Flight, however, focuses more on external destruction rather than internal. Once the spear hits something upon thrown, it will unleash those infinite thorns across a wide area, skewering anyone and anything in range. It's unavoidable because it's literally carpetbombing. The best way to avoid that of course, is to stop the spear before it hits its mark, so Rho Aius is a strong counter for it.
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>>115284248
And there are DEENfags?
Ufotable so fucking adorable
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>>115283999
>His body is made out of swords
Then how about my body is my blade
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>>115291619
Steel is his body, and fire is his blood.

You basically have to rework the whole poem.
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>>115284125
>panties
>not pantsu~
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Why is Shirou's origin a sword?

Is it random?

He was not from a magus family.
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>>115291965
Avalon change it and his oafinity to sword. (Don't ask me how).
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>>115291965
Avalon forcibly changed his origin.
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>>115291965
A failure magician stuck a scabbard up his belly.
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>>115291619
I am a sword
Steel is my body
Fire is my blood
I have withstood pain the create countless weapons
Yet these hand will never hold anything
Unknown to death
Nor known to life
Yet, I have no regrets
This is the only path,
So as I pray,
Unlimited Blade Work.

There, fixed.
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>>115292047
But Shirou basically lost everything about his old self and was 'reborn', and during that time the sheathe was planted in him.

And since Origin is:
>The orientation at the time that an event occurred.
>The origin is what defines the existence as an existence. In magery, it also is used under the meaning of alignment.

http://completematerial.pbworks.com/w/page/40075809/Unsorted%20Translation%20%28arai%29
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>>115291965
Shirou was a normalfag without barely any magic potential.

However showing up Avalon up his ass as a kid, made Gaia register him as a sword.

Avalon is the scabbard, Shirou is the sword.
There is no person Shirou.
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mkjh
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I make my sword hard
My body is hard
My blood is very hot
I made a lot of swords
Who is death
Who is life
Have to wear lots of band-aids because of this
I'm not going to use those swords, though
So please god
Lots of sword making
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Do you think when Shirou's training sometimes, he creates a Noble Phantasm just so he doesn't get rusty and leaves it lying around in the shed?
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>>115292797
They can't really lie around. Projections disappear.
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>>115292897
I thought Shirou's projections stayed around. Wasn't he supposed to have a bunch of lamps he duplicated sitting in his shed?
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>>115292897
Shirou's projections linger for a while, though. I mean, he can disappear them at will, but what if sometimes he just leaves a Caliburn propped up against the wall and forgets about it?
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>>115292897
He has several mundane projections lying around his shed.
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>>115290968
>Anti-Army
>Maximum target: 50 people

Guess they had pretty small armies back in Ireland.
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>>115292959
Shit like screws or alummi pipes can longer for hours.

Weapons disappear as soon as Shirou stops focusing on them as he needs to focus on his origin.
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>>115293060
No they don't. Rin was able to hold onto and use Zelretch for a while after he recreated it.
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>>115283288
Gay sex, obviously.
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>>115293103
The Jewel Sword is something of a special case.
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>>115293180
As is Shirou and all his projections
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>>115293022
>Anti-Ireland Noble Phantasm
>a potato
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>>115293060
>Weapons disappear as soon as Shirou stops focusing on them as he needs to focus on his origin.
If anything, it would be the opposite of this. Swords are his origin, so he has an easier time projecting swords. He needs to concentrate harder on things that aren't swords.
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>>115293241
10/10 you cheeky faggot.
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Shirou VS Shichika
Who would win?
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>>115293435
>All the swords
>vs all the techniques to destroy said swords

Shirou traces a lance and it's over
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>>115293435
Depends. Can Shirou trace Shichika?
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>>115293103
It was a joint venture between Shirou,Rin and Illya.
Not to mention Shirou's hulkbuster arm overflow.

One of the aspects of Archer's fighting style is that he loses focus on purpose to dissolve projection to make place for new one.
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>>115293435
Power level discussion are bad and you should feel bad for posting that. Shirou isn't a fighter, so Shichika would win unless Shirou projected some bullshit overpowered NP.
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>>115293480
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>>115292959
His projections last long if he puts more effort/power into it. However projected NP have far shorter life because the world is trying crush such things.
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>>115293376
I mean cases like we are discussing.

If he traced Caladblog and just put in the shed for shit and giggles while he goes cooking, it would disappear instantly.

Why we are even discussing other magus attemtping sword projection where from their standpoint it is just a dumb image that costs trillion mana.
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>>115293022
It is just the thrown Lance exploding into thousands of thorns.
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>I am the bone of my sword
I make weapons of my self

>Steel is my body and fire is my blood
I bathe my body in my blood to make of myself a weapon

>I have created over a thousand blades
I have no part of me that isn't a weapon

>Unknown to Death, Nor known to Life
from this I have not died, yet I do not live

>Have withstood pain to create many weapons
becoming weapons is a painful sacrifice

>Yet, those hands will never hold anything
his hands are only for killing

>So as I pray, unlimited blade works.
ceaselessly make his flesh into weapon
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>>115293710
I'm a counter guardian
My mind is weapons
I died and I'm alive
I'm going to kill
So as I poem
I make my mind weapons



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