Rank A AGI done right.
>going so fast that you warp right next to the enemy and STOPPING
>not just using the momentum gained by going that fast to pulverise the enemy master
It has nothing to do with common sense. Why would a fucking BERSERKER ever want to STOP?
It seems stupid as fuck. And no, just because he is a berserker doesn't mean that he does random shit for no reason. It's the same principle as "hulk smash".
>Why would a fucking BERSERKER ever want to STOP?
To slice your ass open?
>he does random shit for no reason
But he doesn't. Read the fucking VN.
Why berserler is so shit? Dies like retard every fucking route.
Nasu realized how fucking op he was and had to find ways to nerf him.
>To slice your ass open?
He's a fucking berserker. What does it matter how he cremates his enemies? Besides he can easily slice an ass open on the fly while moving past people.
>read the VN
Read my post. I JUST said that he doesn't do random shit.
You can say the same for half of the Servants really. At least UBW lets him keep some dignity in that instead of dying to plot, he gets offed because his opponent is his natural counter and he was forced to defend. Even then he breaks the fucking chain of heaven.
Also he gets a realy nice PoV
I hope they don't lose all of their budget in the next couple episodes. I wonder how FSN would look if the F/Z Director was in charge.
Next Episode is pure exposition.
Ufotable has their money, and they knows this will sell.
Why does this exist?
Aren't they also getting funding from AniPlex and TypeMoon? I don't see this dropping vastly in quality.
It's not about common sense though.
will the next episode have the graveyard fight? are they all going to be double length?
No to both questions
>trolled Gil to hell
Zero is still the best zerker.
VN Illya = best Illya
>Illya route never
Illya always has her route in my heart.
Kotomanly in 80% of the next ep. Be cool. Be ready.
Is it Saturday yet?
Why is she so puffy in prisma?
Alternate universes and whatnot
You wouldn't get it
Fake Assassin >>> Durrserker
Everyone's puffy in prisma.
kojiro a best
>Not one Rider Picture
I want to touch that luxurious hair.
Best hair indeed.
Do you prefer your women puffy or wide?
>I wonder how FSN would look if the F/Z Director was in charge
Because everyone already loves her.
ILLYA BEST EVERYTHING
The action scenes wouldn't be anywhere near as good; I'll tell you that right now.
Disregard Ilya, hell disregard Sakura, where's my Rider route. I want to protect that smile
I still can't believe he fought with Berserker to a standstill. Fucking Nasu spouting awesome shit in interviews but never showing exactly how it happened.
He fought every 5th war servant to a standstill before his plot armor ran dry.
I want to give her that smile, Poseidon was a dick.
Assassin's swordsmanship actually surpasses human capabilities because he was never an actual person. Everyone else is limited by what they could achieve in life, but fucking Assassin's is just nation-wide headcanon forced onto some wraith in a class container.
>Servant based on a fictional character
Fuck you, I'm taking both.
>Berserker vs Archer.gif
TAIGA! WHERE IS TAIGA YOU IMBECILES?
Lancer and Berserker with A Agi have already fucking teleporting. I wonder how will ufotable pull off that A+.
>Doesn't even have a NP and can fight even with a servant
TAIGA PLEASES STUDENTS FOR BOARD AND LODGING
Saber and Archer also teleported, and their agi were C though. Fuck servant ranking.
Archer's Agi was boosted by his weapons though.
What did you just say?
>but fucking Assassin's is just nation-wide headcanon forced onto some wraith in a class container.
Man im scarred if the Holy Grail war will exist and someone will try to summon ecstasy aka darks or coldsteel the hedgeheg
Slut of fuyuki
Who need NP when you can reach fucking Second Magic with pure swordsmanship. Nippon banzai.
His blows couldn't even have hurt Berserker with his A grade Endurance and God Hand. He had to have had some serious back up from Caster like the enchantment she used on Kuzuki to make him hit things with the force of an elephant gun.
He's not slowing down. It's just time slowing down for the viewer to perceive his motion.
>Berserker does his overpowered roar and battle shit
>Assassin kicks him down the steep mountain
>climbs back up, charges up another attack
>Assassin kicks him down the mountain again
>crawls back up the mountain, ready for a final charge
>Assassin just raises his foot
>gets the hint and fucks off
His size giving him insane momentum while rolling down doesn't exactly soften the landing either.
Does the swordsman formerly known as Sasaki Koujiro feature in any other fate work apart from f/sn?
Get out of here, Quiz-Ogre.
Simply the best.
Fake. He can simply disbelieve his NP due to his OP skill set.
sasaki 100 percent, not even close
> disbelieve Hassan's NP
Doesn't Fake get assassinated by True?
Fuck you, you just ruined the episode before it aired.
>Also, in the game, Assassin was able to push Berserker back because of the terrain advantage and support from Caster (weighing down Berserker's body). ...Well, since the compatibility of Assassin and Berserker is horrible, the fact that Berserker was even pushed back is enough to say "whoah, Kojirou's amazing".
Kerry prefers dolls over tigers.
No, True was summoned using Fake body. He was literally eaten inside out.
no, fake get's used as the vessel to summon true
He got killed by the same Shadow thing that killed Gil, Berserker, Saber and Gay Bulge if I remember correctly.
>If it's just Servant vs Servant, then without complaint, True Assassin would have the better chance of victory. Right, Kojirou doesn't have any means of breaking through Zabaniya. But there's more to it. The problem of Zabaniya is that it's not immediate death. If a normal heart gets destroyed by it, then the person dies immediately but the opponents are Servants. And especially against Kojirou, who has a strong spirit alignment, even if his heart is destroyed he still will have some fighting power left in him. Right in the interval after TA uses his Noble Phantasm, Assassin could close the gap and use Tsubame Gaeshi. Which means....it would be a draw since both of them would end up dead...?
That's Shadow-kun work
Grail-kun I want to have a gf what should i do?
Is that why he left his daughter with the Eiznberns? I bet the whole. "I went back to get her" was a lie. He just got to the forest, couldn't be assed going further and decided. "Fuck it, I always wanted a son"
Doesn't that only apply when he has both swords out?
kill all the other men
nobody wants you
Ja~ korosu ne!
Taiga will take the leftover Einz and start her own show, with lolis and hints. Fuck it, remove the hints
Imagine that you are summoned as her servant, you proceed to have intercourse with her, you perceive as each command spell disappears while she orders you to not cum yet.
Illya's CS don't disappear. They are her magic circuits.
And the lolis.
You just had to ruin it, didn't you?
I want Taiga.
She's too cute not to want.
If Bersercar is so fast why can't he outrun Gil's swords?
Gil wasn't aiming at him, though. He was aiming at Illya. So dodging was not an option.
Chains of Heaven, also he was protecting Illya. Fuck off Frodo.
He could avoid some of them without Illya. But that's a lot of swords.
Also fuck dodging Heracles takes it like a man
I want a full flashback episode of Winter Forest ;_;
Taiga pls stop posting on /a/ and clean the house so that you can be useful for once
I guess Berserker's loyalty was an eye-opening experience for Illya.
You'll get it after Illya gets stabbed and blinded for no reason.
Was this intentional?
That's not cool at all. Why not grapple each other to the ground for some extra gay realism.
Yes but I have a feeling that ufo would make it really short or just fucking skip it.
I'd watch rider and saber wrestling
>Unlimited Bread Work
Stoop low Emiya.
There's no way they'll skip it.
>yfw ebola-chan and shrek as servant
Did Kirei decide to inherit the path of his father and his magecrafy master and try his hand at walking in circles?
His despair boner autism turned into regular autism.
That church hardly has enough unobstructed space to walk in circles there.
>you will never have Nakata Jouji's voice
How much weaker is Kirei in FSN compared to Zero after his heart gets corrupted? After seeing the Kiritsugu fight, i find it hard to believe he lost to Shirou in both Fate and HF.
>No lewd art of Ilya with the full body command spell tatoos active
He doesn't lose in HF because of ability. His body just didn't last until the end. He was completely overpowering the strongest Shirou in his weaker condition.
He was fighting swords in HF and Avalon in Fate
Walking in circles is unhealthy for you
Or else you turn into icecubes
>your dick when this fight begins
Too bad she dies right away.
Raincoat saber better have the hood on. I'm going to be disappointed if she doesn't.
He was punching a body made of swords.
>secondaries faces in the aftermath of battle when Archer tries to commit seduko
Redesigned to be a poncho
I don't have a reaction image great enough for it
> Caster gets betrayed by a man again
Thank god HA is fully translated.
Erect as swords
First time reading the VN, I couldn't stop laughing at seeing such a serious Saber face in such a wonky looking rain poncho thing
>"Oh damn I guess you really can't live without a heart."
Divine Words motherfuckers, do you speak it?
How will ufotable do the Archer vs. Shirou fight from VN that showed Archer's monologue?
What about fate? Why did he start fucking flinging mud everywhere?
How did he not dodge some scrub trying to stab him with noobzoth sword?
He's not a clever man.
They will just show a black screen with a big READ THE VN on it I guess.
Maybe he got distracted by Avalon doing some weird shit.
Nah, just cut to the VN at that point entirely.
> Kuzuki and Sasaki pummeling avengerlings back-to-back while casually iscussing the best way to do it
> they're fucking destroying them
> turns out they're just buying time for the lasers
> suddenly that CG with Caster charging up a increasingly ridiculous amount of lasers while whining
> she fucking blasts away everything
That whole scene gave me a boner hardr than the Saber eclipse H.
Zero Kirei with 10 CS can fight and maybe even defeat Ciel. FSN Kirei would be obliterated in seconds
Will Rin leave a death threat on Shirou's desk or will he get sniped with an eraser?
Or they can do a separate epilogue OVA like they did with KnK. ufotable doesn't really mind having an entire episode of monologues.
Death threat is HF
No, if you ignore her you get a death threat to find her behind the archery dojo after school.
That only happens in HF.
In UBW you can either go out or get sniped
Any one got a link for the F/HA iso?
Just go on nyaa you lazy fuck
Translating it as brother would be just be plain silly when that isn't how Shirou interprets it.
Wait, when did this happen?
Ebola's already a servant in Strange Fake.
This. Heracles was OP as fuck, if he was Archer or Saber it would be over so fast.
He doesn't break the chains. Watch the canon movie again you fucking newfag.
Good bait, though. I gladly took it.
I had to watch it a second time to pay attention to the visuals because the first time I was mesmerized by Jouji Nakata's voice.
What if this new FSN director was in charge of FZ? Better or worse?
I don't care and I'm not even the guy you're replying to, but I just want to say that Kiritsugu's voice actor is making me gay.
> durr they're so fast it looks like they vanish from one spot and appear in the next
Medea best Caster
Others needn't apply.
>Doesn't even have EX Mana.
Magic Resistance A
Its a VN, not a "real" computer game, right?
So you can't control shit.
Why the fuck is the story still full of retarded rpg elements?
>So you can't control shit.
Whet r choises?
You know what I mean. You can't level up stats or choose strategies.
Kinda unrelated, but does this particular dance has a name? I always call it "hip dance" in my head but as it is not an uncommon hip dance I though it would have an actual name
You could play Extra or CCC
He's fine as berserker, most servant can't beat him simply because they only have ONE NP each VS god hand. Making him berserk was a smart decision in that he is much faster and stronger, nine lives is redundant when all he really has to do is hit them to death and Ilya can provide him with all the prana he needs. The issue was that they didn't expect there to be 3 weapon spammers, Gil turning up twice was bad enough but a servant and a summoner who fight using nothing but projection is fucking weird.
>Defending the shittiest magecraft family in terms of strategy ever
Pls. Anything but Caster or Assassin Herackles would be way better than Berserker
>Already has strong will power and divinity
>Taking orders from Einzberns and not just killing them
She have a even bigger fuckoff wave motion canon in F/HA.
Hercules is infamous for his bad temper and muh honor so your plan is the make him archer class so he can do whatever the fuck he wants?
>Making him berserk was a smart decision
Nope, it was a fucking stupid decision only done because BETRAYAL!
As Bezerker he is powered down since none of the powerup from Bezerker matters since he was already at that rank.
>all this can be blocked with A ranked MR
No, rank A magic resistance stated that no modern mage can harm Saber. Caster was a mage from the age of the gods, and Nasu even stated that Aoko (wielder of the 5th magic) would be no match for her.
The funny thing about Archer Heracles is that Rin'd end up summoning a Berserker on her roof.
Also 2mt tall bara immortal bowman.
>The funny thing about Archer Heracles is that Rin'd end up summoning a Berserker on her roof.
>Also 2mt tall bara immortal bowman.
>As Bezerker he is powered down since none of the powerup from Bezerker matters since he was already at that rank.
No, they were raised.
It probably does, but I just call it cute.
>Nasu even stated that Aoko (wielder of the 5th magic) would be no match for her.
Wow, true magic is pretty shit.
Caster have higher output than Aoko, and Aoko was stated to be able to fight Servants.
>Q: In the other Type-Moon works, who else besides Arc can fight against Servants?
>A: If we're working on the condition of one on one, with an extremely average Noble Phantasm. Generally most of the 27 Ancestors, Kishima Kouma, Aozaki Aoko.
If it's just a defensive fight, but would still be a fight, then Ciel. Shiki (Rakkyo), Shiki (Tsukihime) are no match for Servants....but Ryougi Shiki (3rd personality) might be able to go as far as the Ciel class.
Q: It has been said that a certain Aozaki cannot even defeat a serious Caster, is this "certain Aozaki" Aoko Aozaki? Is this an assessment based on Aoko using True Magic?
A: "A certain Aozaki" includes both Aoko and Touko. In a magecraft battle by modern standards, a "magus" who is capable of defeating a serious Caster does not exist.
Age of gods sorcerers shat out true magic-tier bullshit for breakfast.
>Wow, true magic is pretty shit.
This, I thought it was better.
How can a 25 year old be this autistic?
No, they werent ... Hercules was alreday at that level or above ... Bezerker just goes up to A.
The whole thing is just to show how butthurt and distrustful they were since they could have summoned him as most classes and they pick Bezerker just because they wanted to have full control over him even if that meant a powered down version.
A full powered up Hercules would wreck shit but would be not something they could have full control, this is why he loses in all routes despite being there just to be Ilya bodyguard.
True Magic are extremely powerful, but they are limited by the Mage quality. And even Caster doesn't know them.
Q: What do the Quality/Quantity/Composition of Regression to the Age of Gods mean in Beowulf's profile? Do Ploys, Arcueid, and Heroic Spirits have such designations? And what would their number be?
A: Regression to the Age of Gods represents the extend at which they are capable of reproducing the Mysteries that existed on Earth before True Magic. Consider it to be like that, their own style of Magical Circuits. Quality represents "how distant from what humans are capable of" their pure Mysteries are. Quantity represents power. The higher the quantity, the greater the degree of influence over the surrounding environment. Since Beowulf only has a quantity of C, he can only display his power to an individual, or over a village.
Composition represents the era of the "Mystery". In terms of magecraft, it would be like Rune, Kabbalah, Black Magic and such.
Ploys are not of Age of Gods, so they cannot be assigned a number in Regression to the Age of Gods.
For Arcueid... Princess Arcueid should qualify. "Quality: B Quantity: A++ Composition: Before Common Era, pseudo-deified natural phenomenon"
Q: Caster's ability as a magus is at the wizard level, but is it possible for Caster (Medea) to become a wizard in the future? Also, are there beings that have a "higher level as magi" than the current wizards?
A: Caster's a magus back in the day that true magic was common so she wouldn't have good affinity with the "Five True Magics of the Modern Era" anyhow, so, she isn't going to be able to pick up True Magic.
Also there are actually quite a few magi with level higher than the current wizards. In the first place, Aozaki Aoko herself is inferior as a magus than the lecturers of the Clock Tower.
Having true magic doesn't always mean having high fighting power output. Also magecrafts from Age of Gods are nearly True Magic tier.
Not UBW related, but how did Shirou pursue Saber endlessly?
He worked really hard to be worthy of entering Avalon?
Aoko is limited by the fact that although she know the True magic, her magus ability was nothing special.
He kept tracing Avalon over and over again until it was good enough for him to enter
>Bezerker just goes up to A.
The mad enhancement can be turned toggled and it was turned off for most of the story simply because it wasn't necessary and makes it difficult to control him. Stats can go above A and even A+.
True magic is hax as hell, but it doesn't necessarily help you in a battle.
But that won't work...
>Q: Archer's greatest defense is "Rho Aias", but if he were the same person as Shirou, shouldn't his greatest protection be "Avalon"? In the Rin route, Archer knew that the holy sword's sheath was inside Shirou, so wouldn't the Heroic Spirit form of the Shirou that "knew" that the sheath was merged with him be Archer?
>A: Avalon’s power won't work if Saber's not connected to it. It's a different story during the Grail War, but all it does when Saber isn't around is make Shirou's magic attribute into "sword". Also, after the Grail War is taken apart, the line between him and her will be gone, so it's best to think that his image of "Avalon" also disappeared.
>He worked really hard to be worthy of entering Avalon?
Yes. That is the fate of one of the Shirous. Not sure which. I would assume that only UBW True and Fate are compatible.
Masturbated every night while remembering her and remaining pure from the filthy touch of others.
But it does, Aoko was one of the people stated to be able to fight Servants, but not against Age of the Gods Caster. There is a reason why so many of the Servant class needs magic resistance.
Not him, but here's how I look at it:
Shirou is a sword, and UBW is the result of him tracing his inner soul. Therefore, by tracing a sword, you can end up with a reality marble.
Now, reality marbles are just a form of reality, only that they're temporarily overriding Gaia instead of being their own independent thing.
You could end up in Avalon the world by tracing Avalon the sheath hard enough.
So how strong would Rin be with the second magic? She is a better mage than Aoko in quality.
UBW True one fucks rin, why would he work for saber?
Why didn't Shirou just fly on the eagles?
That's what it means for him to spend "an eternity" to find it and for them to meet at "the end of time".
I'm just saying that it's not theoretically impossible, but all the others are.
It does, but for Aoko it's not to the level of Zelretch who can probably spam excaliblasts due to true magic.
Why didn't Archer shoot Archers from his bow?
He became a sword the world registered him as a sword that penetrated Arthur so he was added to her NP collection and granted access to Avalon.
Saber raincoat confirmed.
I fucking love that raincoat but everyone else seems to hate it.
Did it ever cross your mind that it was in fact one of the ARCHERS who entered the Avalon?
Damn strong, I think 70-100 rating is whether she knows how to create the Jewel Sword.
GJ: I have a question about Fate characters. How high (or low) are the talents of Emiya Shirou and Tohsaka Rin within the entire history of the Association?
Nasu: Rin really is a genius. Given time, she'll enter within the top 100 magi of the Association throughout its entire history. Shirou won't move out from being an magus apprentice, but as a spell-user, he'll be among one of the big specialists. Ultimately, he'll receive an evaluation on the same level as "Magus Killer" Emiya Kiritsugu had in his peak, maybe. If I were to put into simple numbers, Ciel: 100, Rin: 70-100, Shirou: 10 (under particular limited conditions, then 40).
however it seems, she doesn't have Quality/Quantity/Composition of Regression to the Age of Gods.
>people actually hate the raincoat
Why did the Einzberns decide to get King Arthur for the 4th war if they could have gotten Herakles instead?
>Damn strong, I think 70-100 rating is whether she knows how to create the Jewel Sword.
And on what do you base that?
So if a female summoner summons a servant of the same sex how do they transfer mana?
I fear the Heaven's Feel movies are going to be directer by another guy.
It's suppose to be humorous/stupid, that's the point.
By the fact that she doesn't know the Jewel sword mechanics in the other two route.
She gained the knowledge of the mechanics when she used it during the fight in HF.
>The truth is, I can recreate the gem sword.
I comprehended the blueprint and the theory during that fight, so I can copy the sorcery if I have the needed material and time.
>Well, I need a lot of money for it, so it's nothing I can accomplish in tens of years.
One, Emiya wasn't a good enough mage to handle a Mad Enhancement. He would've turned out like Kariya.
Two, Avalon. strong Servant and unkillable Master > strong unkillable Servant and pissweak Master.
Acht is retarded, news at 11.
Use your imagination.
I mean on what do you base that 70-100 is her potentail with second magic.
Because that's rather low than considering that shirou had 10 normaly.
Also with second true magic she would simply stomp ciel
No-one knows the abilities of the servant until they are summoned. King author is the most widely recodnise "hero" in the modern age and thus guarantees a strong servant.
>shat out something for breakfast
I get what you're trying to say, but anon...
Are the images on the right from the Vita port?
Fucking nerfed, it looks like tiny lasers now
Except Ciel also have knowledge of magic from the age of the gods due to Roa and have insane magic potential due to her circuits.
Powered Ciel is a peek at the potential of Ciel.
Normal Ciel is limited.
I'm pretty sure others like Herakles are more recognized.
She spent too much time arguing in fate threads on /a/
Not it is just scaled down, the thin lines are her powering up and targeting.
You don't seem to realise how overpowered true magic is.
Zelretch won against the Crimson Moon using it
How many gallons of semen does it take to fill a Reality Marble to capacity?
Unlimited Jackhammer Works
Unlimited Jizz Works?
You need good magus potential to make True Magic truly powerful, and Zelretch's potential far surpasses Rin because the Regression to the age of the gods. (He's far older than Arcueid)
And you underestimate the capabilities of Ciel.
After Roa disappeared, did the "suppression" leave any effects on Ciel's body?
Nasu By the time Roa disappeared, Ciel had lost her immortality. Ah, but the self preservation magic she had learned was there, and thanks to that she was fine. As usual, she's built for playing rough.
Takeuchi How much magic potential does Ciel have?
Nasu Far above that of an A rank mage. Ciel's excellent qualities are far above that of normal magic power preservation limits.
So how much of a gap is there between her and a normal mage?
Nasu Let's say a normal mage can keep a large beer mug's worth of magic power within himself. Ciel can keep a tub's worth. No, a 20 liter poly-tank's worth. As far as battles are concerned, normal mages use water guns, while Ciel can fight with a water hose.
Takeuchi For some reason I have an image of her fighting with swords and guns like a warrior, but she's actually pretty strong as a mage.
Nasu Yeah, because that's what she really is. She doesn't like it, though. She's basically almighty, she can use any weapon. She has no favorites, and guns are the only one she likes.
Takeuchi Is she good at magic?
Nasu It's more like she just knows a lot of magic. She just hardly ever uses it, so she's wasting her talent. There's more magic she knows that she's never used.
Takeuchi So not just Arc, but Ciel also has a lot of data that wasn't talked about in the actual game.
Why didn't Kiritsugu just summon EMIYA and shoot everyone together?
Not really, not in the modern age. People might know the name "Hercules" but if you ask them anything about him they'll give you a run down of the Disney movie, if that. Everyone and their mother knows about King Arthur, the sword in the stone, Excalibur, the lady of the lake and Sir Lancelot.
>ask anyone about Gilgamesh
Implying if you ask people anything about King Arthur they won't you a run down of THAT Disney movie. Or Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
I want to fuck Sakura so fucking much.
>the golden man
Kiritsugu made a bet on a hero he knew would be strong and had a catalyst to summon him. (He didnt know he was a part of Nasuniverse gender bender game)
Here you go, it's a fleshlight modeled after wormsl- I mean Sakura's vag000.
I wish this game had more TM characters, Sion is nice but more would be appreciated.
They had conflicting ethical and moral beliefs.
Having two silent, pragmatic, cool guys working on the same team is boring.
Superhumans in fiction almost always fuck up physics for the sake of looking cool. You're better off not worrying about that kind of thing.
W-wait, are you teling my Monty Python wasn't an accurate depiction?
Why is Illya so cute?
How come no one is commenting they changed Archer's sniping spot? It looks like it isn't a bad idea from the PV, but I wish they stopped changing things. Like the church being dark, when it's always bright in the VN.
Seriously? I barely knew any history about King Arthur apart from taking the stone.
Do you guys realize that Hercules got a TV-series, many movies and even a fucking Disney movie AND series about him, right?
Every fucking kid in this world knows who he is.
Mom, i see dead people.
Atmosphere mang, now though, if I don't have loud church music blasting while Kotomine cums all over Emiya, I'm going to be mad
Actually it's probably the most accurate one out there. Terry Gilliam is a scholar of Dark Age Britain, he knows the source material better then most. Even Lancelot as a crazy bezerker came straight out of the Vulgate Saga.
I thought about commenting on it by I will allow it. I prefer the woods better though makes it seem like he is further away
Because she's the ideal little sister figure. Sadly she's also crazy.
Why are the side characters in F/SN so shit compared to the ones in Fate/Zero?
Secondary or Troll. Either way, you're full of shit.
/s4s/ is objectively the best board on 4chan you moron
> I barely knew any history about King Arthur apart from taking the stone.
You're an American though.
Even track sluts aren't as bad as Kerry.
Fuck. I read that in Illya's voice.
That made me laugh and HNNNNG.
It felt real for a second. ;_;
Nah, Souchirou is way less developed than characters like Kayneth, Maiya, and Ryuonosuke.
Love that meme, anon. Never allow it to disappear.
>(He's far older than Arcueid)
We don't know exactly how much older Zel is than Arc. Could be something like 50 years, could be a few hundred.
>I wish they would stop changing minute details
I fucking hate you faggots.
It's easy to spot the edgemasters in this season threads about Fate.
Are you trying to make me fap during class?
How shameless are you?
Shirou surpasses Kiritsugu by the end of each route thanks to Avalon, Archer, and his reality marble. Also Fate/Zero is a what-if "prequel" made by a different author several years after F/SN, of course there's going to be inconsistencies but that's ultimately a problem with Zero, not F/SN.
Nah, Souchirou is way less developed than characters like Kayneth, Maiya, and Ryuonosuke.
It's not a what-if, it's what preceded all the routes in F/SN.
If it isn't broken, don't try to fix it at the possible cost of breaking it.
Nasu was supervising, so if there were any major inaccuracies he caught them.
Whatever inaccuracies, therefore, are retcons.
Kirei was definitely at the peak, but he was also using his numerous command seals to greatly power himself.
Except in Heaven's Feel, when she's the ideal big sister
"Edgemaster" sounds like a servant class.
Don't worry, you're probably an American.
I bet you believe Extra is canon as well, retards.
It's the second most canon entry in the Fate series, after F/SN.
Not this shit again...
What part of Kaleidoscope do you not understand?
So Arthur actually defeated a wererabbit with a holy hand grenade?
Everything is canon in the Nasuverse
Nobody gives a shit about her.
If it ends up better I don't see what's wrong with changing some minor things.
Anyone here read Apocrypha?
I'm wondering if it's only servant fanwank (which wouldn't be so bad because the servants in it are great) or if the story is well thought and developed, and the masters are good characters.
And so I pray...
I bet you think that the mana Rin used to defeat Sakura's shadows isn't canon.
I believe there was "tainted ideals" fanshit, that wasnt THAT bad, a bit fucked up, yes, and unfinished.
One side has only one actual master and the other has lost most of its masters.
Kirei was far more powerful because of the numerous command seal, which were described to be near miracle level power.
For example he was able to greatly improve the size of his black keys with command seals.
Kirei initiated a large scale magecraft.
The Black Keys that he grasped with both hands instantly swelled up into more than
twice their original size. The half-spiritual blades, which were woven with magecraft
to begin with, had extra prana instilled into them and were completely ‘strengthened’.
Although the forceful execution of this spell evidently surpassed the limit of the
weapons themselves, it was enough to handle one bullet. Kirei crossed the six
enormous swords before his chest and held them in fan-like formation. The mighty
destructive power of the .30-06 Springfield assault rifle bullet was completely sealed
off in an instant.
Kirei had never been an orthodox magus. Kirei, whose Magic Circuits were yet to be
developed properly, only obtained a source of prana through utilizing the spare
Command Seals he received from Risei so he could instantly learn how to use
magecraft. Although the characteristics of the Command Seals meant they were
disposables which would disappear upon use, it had managed to save Kirei at the
end. The moment that the magecraft was activated and the ‘Origin Bullet’ made
contact to exert the effect, the Command Seal that served as the source of prana
had simply disappeared from Kirei’s arm.
Kirei once again activated his Command Seals the moment he stepped toward
Kiritsugu. He strengthened his physical abilities – he accelerated his reaction time
and multiplied the maximum power output of his right flexor, radius muscle,
and pronator teres muscle. There was no time to strengthen the sleeve of the
bulletproof frock. The rest depended on his skill.
>[5:53:31 PM] Anon: HAHAHA FAGGOT
>[5:53:41 PM] Anon: I BET YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT LANCER'S NP DOES
>[5:54:03 PM] Anon2: Lancer's NP shoots a lance beam of death
>[5:54:26 PM] Anon: HAHAHAHA
You guys have turned me into an asshole
It's not worth it if they can fuck it up (Batcave).
Or course. Did you miss that entry in the Historia Regum Britanniae?
Holy hell, who is this semen demon?
She's into /ss + torture, she gives good head and is really hot.
Those changes aren't minor, I thought we were talking about minor changes.
The fight wasn't even that bad.
Also, Kirei was stated to be far weaker than in F/Z, even Kirei said so himself.
Kirei was defeated in Fate because he was just using the mud at the time. So he was shocked when Shirou broke out with Avalon, and even more shocked when he came at him with the Azoth dagger that he used to kill Tokiomi. Therefore, he was unprepared to defend against himself. Even after Shirou stabbed punched him, Kotomine was still staring at the dagger.
In HF, he was already dying and pretty much living on borrowed time with his fake heart destroyed. He was also trying to punch against Shirou's defensive sword body. Even then, Shirou was just struggling, Kotomine then just stopped fighting and said to Shirou that his time ran out and just let him go. Shirou didn't even manage to knock Kotomine down himself.
Batcave was cool, fuck you.
Damn she sounds like A+ Semen Demon.
She's still not the best master, as much as I like her.
Changing Archer's position in a memorable or the church's atmosphere aren't major changes, but they aren't details either
>mfw Kirei walks in circles around Shirou next ep
Wait until the episode before complaining please. Now this complains come before the episode airs my god.
No, the source of that mana is from the universes where Zero and Extra were canon.
Shirou is still the best Master
She is, right up to the point where worst daughter kills her.
She's not autistic, she just likes to have fun.
What's wrong with wanting to have fun?
Type Moon 10th Anniversary Q&A
>Q: What is the reason of the Mana depletion in the world of Extra?
>A: Gonna leak you some info. It is the "what if scenario" caused by a "certain ritual" that occurred in the 1970's. This ritual is not expected to happen until the year 20XX.
It wasn't bad, though it could have been better.
The problem is the place they chose. They could have chosen almost anything else and it would've been better.
>worst daughter kills her.
Is Apocrypha only suffering?
I'm not complaining, just stating my opinion. These ideas may not have been bad on the long run, but they aren't worth it.
South American. King Arthur just isn't very famous here. If burgers also do not know him then it means that only Europe and Japan know about his legend making him even worse when compared to based Hercules
It is possible the ritual is this, which probably will be something discussed in Tsukihime 2.
One major event for the Ancestors is the Aylesbury Valesti (アルズベリ・バレステイン, ?) ritual established by Crimson Moon that involves the revival of The Dark Six. It is a grand ritual the Ancestors have been preparing for decades, and it has come together in Aylesbury over the last ten years. It is suggested that the ritual, performed much earlier in the 1970s for unknown reasons, resulted in the world's mana being dried up in Fate/Extra. Due to the development being funded and developed entirely by human means, the Mage's Association and Church are unable to intervene until the advent of the ritual.
The ritual is the earnest desires for all Dead Apostles, and at least six Ancestors will be participating. Those more recent ones from magus backgrounds are not able to attend, limiting it to only the very old Dead Apostles. Only those with "original blood" will be invited, including Ortenrosse, who is running it, Altrouge, Van-Fem, Merem Solomon, and Blackmore. As Ortenrosse is leading it, there are no Ancestors capable of declining. Van-Fem has only provided capital without actually actively working with it. Merem has no interest in the "old fashioned" ritual, only wishing to stop it as a member of the Church and kill Altrouge, and before the importance of the ritual, Blackmore wishes to kill her as well. They are both willing to work together on killing her before attempting to kill each other.
There's having fun and then there's behaving like a child.
One of the Lancers suffers about as much as 3 x Diarmund.
Also the whole Jack accident does suffering onmultiple levels on everyone involved.
Is it good? Or is it just suffering?
It's not so much "possible" as "heavily implied to be."
Why is Hercules black? Did the poison damn his soul?
That's called "Mating ritual dance".
She's calling Shirou to impregnate her 10 times in a row but the MC is just too dense.
God Hand is why his skin looks like lead, but mad enhancement is why he's got funky elbows.
IS IT NEXT WEEK ALREADY?
WHERE'S EPISODE 2?
I think you're missing a few continent there bud.
Taiga should have kept her hair Zecchan's style.
Also, Zecchan's voice and mannerism was 10/10.
Now, she's just an average Xmas cake.
She only had to listen, /a/.
If Taiga is so lucky why is she still single?
Get on the fucking boat and fuck off Mr. Frodo.
>mfw 18 days until ep2 by UTW
I like these dual PVs. Next one should be Rin's attack on school and Rider.
EX in a skill doesn't mean it's the best, it means it's the best depending on the situation.
Maybe she has good luck in life but not in love.
So Lancer is an Ex rank Lancer?
B-But love is life, anon.
I want to rape Taiga into mindbrokeness.
No, Taiga is love, Taiga is life.
You monster. Taiga is for tender loving only.
Yes, and? Corrupting her would be the finest of delicacies.
>Takeuchi So not just Arc, but Ciel also has a lot of data that wasn't talked about in the actual game.
That's fucking Nasu to a god damn t
>Ex rank luck
I would like to see Lancer trying to kill Fuji-nee while she dodges all his attacks and does critical damage with her paper poster. Then, an unaware Taiga would parry Lancer's Gae Bolg and reflect it right back to him, killing him in the process.
Can Taiga kill servants, /a/?
Depends, did the servant call her Taiga?
Probably was saving for Tsukihime 2.
especially according to this: >>115289465
She's actually really fucking good at swordmanship.
Lancer attacking Taiga would look like he had a reverse Gae Bolg.
The missing hit would cause the lance to change its path and miss completely Taiga.
EX Luck isn't necessarily the ability to escape everything though. Attacks like Gay Bulge, which relies on a luck roll, are affected more.
For example, Fujinee still gets raped by caster.
>Fujinee still gets raped by caster.
That fucking f/ha scene.
What else did you expect from Nasu?
But you have to consider Lancer's shitty luck. Against an average luck servant she would probably die at the first dice roll.
Imagine how cute it would be if Taiga beat Lancer's ass with her sheer luck and protected Shirou instead of Saber.
I was playing through the VN to compare it to the anime and I noticed something. The scene where Shirou complains to Shinji about Sakura's command seal doesn't happen. Did I just not get to it, or is it a scene added by Nasu?
There' a doujin about that.
Here's last page.
Why Shirou is shocked when Archer reveals to him that the only reason he wanted to be a seigi no mikata is because he is empty inside? He already confessed that to Rin in the Einzenbern castle.
>"I remember. Those eyes that looked down at me and the voice pleading for me to live.
At that time, I thought not about the fact that I was saved, but the fact that someone's there to save me… The fact itself is…"
>It's so wonderful, and it's such a miraculous thing.
>That's why I admired it.
>I had nothing, and there was nothing remaining in me, I admired the first thing that came into my sight.
>That's the only thing I had.
>That's the only emotion I felt after I was saved.
>I was happy.
>That's all I could think about.
>So that's all the emotion I could create
So it's time for Kirie to circle someone instead of him being circled.
Is it H?
>For example, Fujinee still gets raped by caster.
Holy shit that scene made me so mad.
>sexualising the Taiga
Why is every F/SN girl so best?
I want to save every one of them.
>Saber from regret and Grail
>Rin from poverty and loliness
>Sakura from dickworms
>Illya from a life with no oniichan
>Taiga from Christmas
>Luvia from irrelevancy
>Caren from Slutdom
Rin's "poverty" is a little overblown cosidering she's still fucking rich
>>Rin from poverty and loliness
Why would you ever want to save someone from that?
She's more relevant than Bazett.
No, Shadow killed him while passing by one night since he was a large source of prana, and then Zouken took the chance to force TA to be born from inside of him while he was laying there dying.
You best not be talkin' shit 'bout my Bouncerfu.
But not got enough against Servants. Saber was able to beat Taiga in an instant after Taiga did a surprise attack on Saber without any weapons by instantly disarming Taiga and taking the shinai against Taiga.
She's as good as Ryougi with a sword
She forced Saber to get serious during a training match in HF accidentally because Saber waned in concentration a bit wondering where Shirou was today. Taiga talks about it later that day, how Saber was trying to really kill her and she knows all about guns.
Saber herself feels awkward for taking it even half serious for an instant whether because she was getting competitive or because she was actually a tad surprised, especially with the fuss Taiga was raising about it even an hour later.
Except she is always short on funds because of the expense of her magic and research.
>Bazett from being dead
>Ayako from having Shinji as a vice captain
>Makidera and co. from being even less relevant than Luvia
pretty sure that have to do more with the surprise sneak attack that Taiga attempted on Saber.
We'll never know what went down there for sure, the only thing we know is that Taiga knows about guns.
Is there a chart for all the outcomes of the various Shirous?
Like the Shirou who becomes EMIYA, the one who could chase after saber forever, etc.
Plus those disposable contacts made for Rider don't come cheap.
>Caster from being badmouthed about her inferior waifu skills.
I want an Illya.
>I was a fool to think you could handle Merino wool because you knew how to handle golden fleece!
My sides have gone to the moon cell.
Issei route when?
I love it
Issei Route ends in UBW after Shirou forcefully strips him, and is arrested for sexual assault.
If Rin could piece God Hand with a magical blast of sufficient power, why would a physical attack of sufficient force not accomplish the same?
You can't tell me that using more jewels added more "mystery" to Rin's attack.
Its a fucking scene in RN if you get all the stamps, nothing but selling Disney Version to Saberfags.
You've outdone yourself, anon
I meant loneliness.
Oh, god! I'm so sleepy.
I'm pulling an all-nighter to do a computer organization assigment. I come to /a/ every half an hour to stay awake.
By the way, loli Rin is a Miracle of the Universe.
Wow, thanks. It was really hard for me to find the top-rated picture on Pixiv.
That does happen.
Read the game some more
It's pretty much all laid out in this conversation I mean, what does work and what doesn't.
Even if it could break the world, if it's not A rank it won't pierce.
Rin's incompetence crosses all barriers of space and time.
Is Fuji-nee squirrel girl?
Now I'm just wondering if Fujimura-sensei tastes like hazelnut.
I don't think there's a chart. I mean from what we know there's Fate Shirou who goes to Avalon after years of heroing, UBW Shirou who gets with Rin and likely hero'd it up better than Fate Shirou, and HF Shirou who dropped the heroing all together and lived with Sakura. Outside of the main three there's of course Archer, all the Shirous who died in bad ends, and the Illya Shirous; there's the fluffy one who seems to be living the life of a harem lead, and Miyu Shirou, who's a hardened badass from a world that's dying.
Probably a few more I'm forgetting.
Do you guys think ufotable will make a Tsukihime anime?
Not until after the remake comes out.
It's only so long before Lu Bu starts losing his shit as a Berserker there.
Rin always summoning troublesome types
Just finding it was enough for me
Yes she is.
It's like you think Tamamo wont start attacking everyone around her from lack of Master.
Are you serious?
Squirrel Girl is a Marvel Comics heroine that boasts unimpressive powers (squirrel-like agility, can talk to squirrels), but by seeming serendipity is capable of besting the likes of Doctor Doom. A gag character whose luck and cuteness reigns supreme.
Taiga does have EX rank luck.
Oh, that Squirrel Girl.
I thought you meant a squirrel/girl hybrid.
Like the one from Sword in the Stone?
Why does Tamamo have the best body?
Only Squirrel Girl in Fate is this dopey Squirrel here.
So the male one is squirrel boy.
Elizabeth led to Hakuno being associated with a squirrel in the game for reasons.
Which caster is best caster?
Elf ears or Fluffy ears?
Which caster makes the best bride?
Because she's a goddess.
I can't remember does buhsercar cut Saber in half at this part of Shirou?
Elf is pure waifu, Fluffy tail is a slut.
Tamamo is best Caster.
Medea isn't even the best pointy ears.
>Touch elf ears
Weird and disgusting
>Touch fluffy ears
Soft and warm and gentle, like their owner.
The answer is clear.
Would you a Len?
I would a Striped Len
Is that mother and daughter?
Len is the mother.
The one in the form of a shota despite being a grown man and writes bad endings most of the time.
He's also voiced by Dio, with the personality of Kotomine
This. Andersen is best. Sucks he got stuck with the turbo slut.
She just wants the entire world in her vagina and to have everyone experience eternal pleasure inside her even if it means they die.
Is that so wrong?
Yes. Besides she's a disgusting pig of a woman and deserves to be treated like trash.
Squirrel must sexualize them all.
Just look at Rin leg-locking her so she's forced to cum inside.
>I would like to see Lancer trying to kill Fuji-nee while she dodges all his attacks and does critical damage with her paper poster. Then, an unaware Taiga would parry Lancer's Gae Bolg and reflect it right back to him, killing him in the process.
I'd prefer for her to parry all of his attacks, and then trip over him and trigger a flag which culminates in them dating in a F/HA slice of life style setting. The guy has E rank luck. A walking disaster like Taiga was made for him, and we all know how much Taiga has loved men with long weapons since she was a school girl...
Wait I was always under the impression that Shirou always met Kotomine in a well lit church. Does anime Kotomine not have the skills to pay the bills? Can't even keep the lights on in his pad.
I don't understand. Why is there so much fanart of Extra FeMC?
ufotable seems to have a habit of animating people having discussions in the dark. Like in episode 0 Rin and Archer were talking in a room with no lights on for absolutely no reason. I guess they think it adds to the atmosphere or something, but it just seems silly to me.
Actually, I always thought it was weird for a church to have its lights turned on in midnight.
Let's say a heroic spirit uses a mace as his main weapon of choice, which class would he even be summoned as?
I just watched episode 2. Sakura was really cute, I can't wait for the Heven's feel movie.
As seen at the beginning of Fate/Zero, the Tohsaka residence is lit mostly by Candle. You know what? I bet Rin doesn't know how to change a lightbulb.
There's a lot of Male Hakuno too.
If he has a riding skill of A or more, a Rider.
If he was a great Magus in his lifetime, a Caster.
If he was known for being a mad warrior, a Berserker.
>She's as good as Ryougi with a sword
Being skilled in the sport, kendo, doesn't equal combat experience and being trained to kill people with a sword.
The scene where Rin finds Archer after he crashes into the room is perfectly well lit, though, and not by candles. And then they move into a totally dark room to spout exposition at each other. It's just stupid.
Berserker most likely.
He would smash everything with the mace.
Berserker. Just like Waifustein.
She's directly noted in interview to be equal in swordsmanship to Ryougi.
You do have to have had a "Berserker moment" in life to qualify for the class, as well.
If Lancelot hadn't had that episode where he fought off the other knights, he wouldn't have qualified.
Okay let's say he was none of those things.
He's also not Buddha or any of that other Nasu bullshit.
What a degenerate
Calico Ren a best
I want to do lewd things to this retard.
What are his/her stats and Noble Phantasms?
>Okay let's say he was none of those things.
New classes can be created for special instances, after all a class is just a mold, and new mold's can be created if the one doing it has knowledge of the rituals in depth. There are more than a dozen classes now, although the seven standard ones are by far the standard, and if you don't know shit about creating mold's or don't get strangely lucky you'll likely fall to one of those no matter how loose the connection.
How big is the mace? You might be able to get him to qualify as a Lancer, maybe.
Assassin is unlikely.
Maybe Avenger? I'd just give up if my Servant was an Avenger though.
>True magic is shit
Zelretch beats type moon with it
Kendo is not real swordsmanship, it's a sport. Taiga isn't really a swords(wo)man.
Shiki would wreck her pretty hard in a sword fight either way. Muh bullshit "peak human" body and self-suggestion/hypnotism + quality Ryougi training.
Then he doesn't meet any of the prerequisites for any of the class categories and cant be summoned in the holy grail war.
The primary summoning criteria of what weaponry they wielded best applies only to the the knightly classes; Saber, Lancer and Archer. The rest are based off other criteria such as proficiency in magecraft, ability to ride things well, and their capacity for madness.
Long story short, if your hero only wielded a mace in his lifetime, he cant be a Saber, a Lancer or an Archer. If he never rode anything out of the ordinary then he cant be a Rider. If he wasn't known as a wizard or mystic then he cant be a Caster. Finally, if he wasn't known for being an angry/batshit insane guy at some point or another he's incompatiable with the Berserker class. He simply cant be summoned as a servant.
Isn't Assassin limited to that samefag?
Avenger I'm pretty sure is just exclusive to Angra Mainyu.
That supports what you said as much as the person you're replying to supported what they're saying. They didn't..
Assassin's limitations depend on the Grail War in question. The Hassan limitation only applies to the Fuyuki Grail Wars of the main canon, and loosely so in fate/strange fake.
Why is assassin limited to the hassans/fakes anyway, there are several notable heroes and figures in history who could qualify for the class.
>Kendo is not real swordsmanship, it's a sport.
and that answers >>115300610, thanks
We've got shit like Shielder now.
>Isn't Assassin limited to that samefag?
That's how it's "Supposed to be set up", but we know that's not how this shit works.
Due to Avenger that rule isn't absolute anymore as shit happens now, and also if you know the rules in depth you can circumvent it by offering a stronger catalyst than the name Hassan.
Hercules is noted to qualify for this class, but unless you know what you're doing you won't be able to summon him as such.
Any rule in any grail war can be broken either by luck or knowledge, that's how it works.
Because the Class name itself is the catalyst for Hassan servants, as his name is the origin of the term "Assassin", and thus all Assassins are Hassan.
Hercules could be summoned as Saber, and he used a fucking club,
Conserve electricity and be power-smart!
No, he uses a sword. It's a massive stone weapon.
He has mastering of all weapons.
Because that's how the main families set it up, basically.
And some others at this point
>by offering a stronger catalyst than the name Hassan.
The whole point is that there isn't a stronger catalyst than the name isn't it?
>Q: How proficient is Shiki’s swordplay?
>Nasu: About the same as that legendary swordswoman of Fuyuki.
Both of those points are irrelevant because the statement had nothing to do with kendo or powerlevels.
>The word assassin originally means hashish-user.
I wonder if the Zabaniya of the original Hassan would have something to do with allucinogens.
Anyway I wanna toke it with Hassan.
Nothing says that, it's just set up so that "It's supposed to accept the name as the catalyst" typically, but you can override it with something stronger if you can find it.
Is sex even allowed in Avalon?
>Saber and Shirou finally meet after god knows how many decades (in Shirou's perspective)
>As they tear their spirit clothes apart and are about to engage in hot sweaty spiritual sex some fairy asshole comes around and pic related
>Still no Trickster/Joker.
You done goofed, Kinoko.
Fate/Strange Hassan is strongest Hassan
Has to be to compete in a war with Enkidu and Gilgamesh
In the context of the Nasuverse where the grail wars in Zero and the three routes of F:SN happened this is the general rule, that was only broken in the third war when the Einzberns substituted Berserker for Avenger, who was a piece of shit weakling who ruined the dream machine for everyone, which is why no one can have nice things.
Also, the stray servant was a concept that got binned originally for being shit. The idea of a spare servant from the previous war was incorporated into Gil's backstory, so why bother?
Weapons a Heroic Spirit uses can change depending on the Servant Class they're put into.
For instance, Diarmuid can be Saber. Were that the case, he would dual wield swords that have different properties from his spears.
Berserker Hercules uses a stone slab swordaxe because... well, he's Berserker. He'd probably have a sword or bow proper if he were made into Saber or Archer (the later of which has been stated to be his most effective class).
I'm just saying it's dumb to imply that you can't summon a Mace hero as his own class when someone bullshits up a new class every week.
Another example of Nasu saying shit that doesn't make sense then.
You forgot to mention one of the goddamn horsemen of the apocalypse too.
There are some interesting combinations, Saber Cu would have his Fraggarch, and Caster would give him much stronger runes, But as a berserker he would proboly have no weapons at all and would likely warpspasm through everything.
Didn't Cu also have a sword? Would he be stronger or weaker if he was summoned as Saber?
>I don't like it = Doesn't make sense
We get it, you don't want to accept that your waifu is on par with taiga in swordsmanship, but this has been canon for ages now. Ryougi's main shit isn't her swordsmanship ability anyway for the most part.
It's not that it doesn't make sense, it's that you don't want to accept it so you see it as bullshit. However it's stated in F/SN that Taiga could have been super famous in terms of top tier swordsmanship if she wasn't banned at every tournament due to a strap she keeps on her sword which is against regulations.
>People thinking what class a Servant is summoned as has any bearing at all on what weapon they can use
We're talking about a series where one Archer is a dual wielding Swordsman and another just shoots swords and spears out of a pocket dimension.
Man these threads turn shitty in between episodes.
No, it's just you being retarded.
There's nothing particularly nonsensical about Taiga being as skilled at swordsmanship as Shiki.
He had fragarach
>Knight of the Bow. A class that excels in possessing powerful Noble Phantasms. The qualifying condition is not attributes, but the possession of powerful projectile weapons or special abilities related to projectile weapons. Highly effective as scouts. They have not only the Magic Resistance ability of the Knight Classes, but also the class ability of Independent Action.
>The qualifying condition is not attributes, but the possession of powerful projectile weapons or special abilities related to projectile weapons.
How is this so hard for everyone to understand every thread? The qualifying condition in the books is not "uses a bow and arrow, and only that", rather it's "Uses projectiles".
Doesn't matter what they shoot out or how they do it, it only matter if they can shoot something
I'm seeing several images on the servants getting along in casual clothes on public spaces.
Are those from HA? Is HA really SoL and canon?
>Are those from HA? Is HA really SoL and canon?
Botton picture is edit
How does her Noble Phantasm work?
Outside of the context of the battle system, I mean. If she pulled this out in an anime or somesuch, what exactly would it do?
Where in F:SN is there a Macer class servant?
Where in F:Z is there a Macer class servant?
Where in F:HA is there a Macer class servant?
There's a Ruler class in the Apocrypha spin off series that came about due to activation of a special contingency built into the grail system in the event of outstanding circumstances and an Avenger class that replaced Berserker due to what was basically considered foul play by the Einzberns during the third war in the standard continuity of the three F:SN routes. It isn't stated or even implied that you can just create new classes out of thin air when Avenger's summoning was achieved by the Einzberns essentially by bending the rules. There's clearly a limit to what classes you can bend the pre defined grail system around.
Bottom picture is an edit, don't know about the top
Everything is canon
It's Nero, ain't gotta explain shit.
>The Flamboyant Golden Theatre (Noble Phantasm)
>Aestus Domus Aurea. Red Sabre's Noble Phantasm, which represented the explosion of her bothersome artistic talent.
>Its precise name was Aestus Estus Domus Aurea.
>In Latin, Aestus Ustus meant "passion" and "heat", while Domus Aurea was the name of the theatre that was constructed.
>It was the manifestation of the tale of Red Sabre declaring "Heed my song!" and locking everyone in the theatre to listen to his singing.
>It created a golden theatre in which everything was advantageous to Sabre, and made it into the battle field. There were rose petals dancing in the air.
>It was different from a Reality Marble, which covered the current World with a different World. The Golden Theatre could persist for long periods because it was built on top of the current World.
>As an aside, when the Golden Theatre was risen, Sabre's sworld would be shrouded in flames like that of the Mount Vesuvius, causing an infernal. Such was the initial design.
>However, it was cut because of the difficulty to animate. The sad limit of handhelds.
>In terms of derivatives, it seemed that there was the Silver Workshop for Sabre's artistic endeavours, and "Blazing Kitchen" for cooking competitions.
>Such was the will of Her Majesty.
>Imperial Privileges (Skill)
>The skill of Red Sabre.
>The acquisition of skills that one should not possess in a short period of time, due to personal wishes.
>Skills available included Riding, Swordsmanship, Artistry, Charisma, Military Tactics, etc. With A rank or above, alteration of the corpus (Divinity etc) was possible.
>It could be said to be the ultimate unfair advantage, but it could also be called a form of vanity.
>The Roman Emperor was no different from Gods. All skills converged at Rome... no, converge at the Emperor. If the Emperor called white black, then it was black.
>However, even so, one could not acquire skills without basis. Since Sabre was a polymath with ample curiosity, she had experience in most of the skills.
>Let's say one day Sabre decided "I can pilot a jet! It is nothing, just adjust the plane according to altitude, not too different from the jet chariot I invented!" And just like that, she would figure out how to pilot the plane.
>.... but because of her short attention span and headache, she would soon forget what she learned.
>Botton picture is edit
I don't like Ryougi Shiki though, the only one I really liked in KnK was Touko. And I prefer the suave and handsome Tohno Shiki to any fakers.
>Ryougi's main shit isn't her swordsmanship ability anyway for the most part.
Besides her eyes, yeah, it is.
>Taiga could have been super famous in terms of top tier swordsmanship
Top tier use of a shinai in a regulated sport.
Not a sword m8.
It probably wouldn't be if Taiga wasn't just an amazing practitioner of kendo, and actually practiced with live blades, as well as how to fight when the goal isn't winning a kendo match.
I've read all of that.
It kind of fails to explain what it -does-. Is it simply "Nero is God here, get fucked"? Is it Imperial Privilege turned up to the max so that she's pretty much omnitalented within the Reality Marble?
>Also, as her “Pendragon” name shows, Altria is the holder of the Element of the Red Dragon, charged with the task of protecting the kingdom. She carries the very magical power of the Dragon. This humongous magical power is also the source of Altria’s Magic Resistance. Due to the characteristics of Dragon, Altria has much trouble with existences such as Siegfried, who is associated with tales of “Dragon extermination”. If she is targeted by “Dragon-slaying Sorceries”, it is possible that Magic Resistance will not function to its fullest extent.
>as well as how to fight when the goal isn't winning a kendo match
Skill with a sword doesn't necessarily have anything to do with fighting.
It superficially resembles a reality marble, but in every way is something else. Rather than replacing the world using World Egg theory, it just builds shit on top of it, so it isn't as likely to poof away so much if Gaia doesn't like it.
Rather in her case it poofs away because she gets headaches, as an odd trade-off. Although we don't really have as much of a term for something like this other than "Creates something similar in nature to a Reality Marble".
You still got a lot of dumb shit in HA, don't fret over it.
It's a manifestation of her authority as an Emperor. Rather than a Reality Marble, which overwrites the world, she just tells the world what to do and it does because she is boss.
Didn't they also have an idea of her summoning the dragon and embracing her role as Fiend Mother Harlot.
Nero has a dragon?
There isn't a Macer class yet but what I'm saying is that no rule in the HGW is concrete enough to say that a Mace user simply can't be summoned if he isn't a Rider or Caster or something.
To fit her being the Whore of Babylon. I think it was a scrapped idea.
The Whore rides upon a seven head dragon.
Beast is not exactly a dragon
Here's the only Nasuverse showing of Beast we've seen to date, basically.
I'm beginning to understand a bit better.
I guess my follow-up is the typical question that comes up in any Fate power level discussion.
Can she beat Hercserker's God Hand using it? Would she be able to make herself strong enough to pierce God Hand by declaring her sword and its blows A-rank? Or simply make it so that within her ampitheatre, God Hand is less effective? How boss is she, really?
>Skill with a sword doesn't necessarily have anything to do with fighting.
I know, I was basically trying to say that skill within kendo/the techniques+skill taught to you and what you need to accomplish to win a match are not the same as the swordsmanship (to fight and kill) that Shiki would be taught.
>skill with a sword
A shinai is not really like a sword.
She's often called Whore of Babylon, and that's a big thing in the Bible when the world goes Apocalypse. The figure associated with her as well is the Beast of Revelation, a seven headed dragon that rules and decimates humanity for a period of time after the rapture using the authority of Satan. Eventually it gets taken down by the White Rider along with the rest of Satan's companions, and thrown into the Lake of Fire I believe.
In terms of "All the World's Evil", it's far more fitting than something like Angya Manyu. Which is why it was the original Angya in Prototype. If you want to learn more on the concept, read CCC or a Bible.
Maybe she could get it as Rider.
Here's some words on it. People somehow missed the obvious symbolism of what a contradiction a grail that grants Earthly desire is, until Nasu flat out told everyone.
>Golden Chalice <Aurea Boura>(? アウレア・ボーウラ): EX
>The golden chalice that BB holds. As well as a Holy Grail.
>A negative Holy Grail that grants the impudent, self-centered wishes of the owner.
>The chalice possessed by the Whore of Babylon that appears in the Revelation of St. John.
>A pseudo-Holy Grail, but exactly because it is a fake Holy Grail that it became a "genuine" Holy Grail that grants the desires of humans regardless of right and wrong.
>To the Christians that treated the honorable poverty of those days as virtue, a chalice molded with a symbol of riches such as gold evidently had connotations of corrupted wealth, greed and the vanity of adorning oneself.
>Although it was clear from the point that this was the chalice held by the Whore of Babylon - the personification of the Roman Empire - but this chalice has inverted Christ's words of "Do not pile up wealth on the land" and symbolizes the earthly wealth.
>"I saw a single woman straddled on a red beast.
>That beast, whose whole body was covered with numerous names that blasphemed God, had seven heads and ten horns."
>According to the Revelation, this is the description of the beast of ruin that appeared in the Holy City and the woman that was straddled on said beast.
>A giant beast possessing seven heads as if the Hydra was said to appear from the sea and land on the Holy City.
>This beast and woman are one and the same, it is impossible to think about them detached from each other.
>The woman is treated as one who brings forth all evils, it has been said that the imprudent and avaricious are unable to oppose her temptation and corrupted by this chalice.
>This is a digression, but the Red Saber who call herself an Emperor has been regarded in the same light as this beast and antagonized by the laymen after her death.
>Ten Crowns: EX
>An unidentified Skill.
>It has been said that the ten crowns indicates the ten evil kings and the seven hills indicate the abominable city of evil.
>It is unknown what kind of principle・authority it is, but that power's origin lies in a past that even the King of Heroes, who was supposed to be mankind's oldest, cannot reach.
>On a simple look, it is a Skill that turns received injuries and occurred events, that make all results as if "nothing happened".
>As a matter of fact, BB is invincible as long as there is this.
Would you kiss this qt?
The idea they got it from was SMT if I recall right, where it is a dragon.
I doubt it she might take on life away but that's it.
>Skills available included Riding, Swordsmanship, Artistry, Charisma, Military Tactics, etc. With A rank or above, alteration of the corpus (Divinity etc) was possible.
She can give herself any skill, starting at A rank with an upward incline
There are some chances to be found there.
>she just tells the world what to do and it does because she is boss.
That sounds like a Marble Phantasm instead of a Reality Marble.