[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vr / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k] [s4s] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / asp / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / wsg / wsr / x] [Settings] [Home]
Board
Settings Home
/a/


File: under da sea.jpg (25.72 KB, 629x354)
25.72 KB
25.72 KB JPG
What gives Japanese cartoons that recognizable "anime" style, compared to American cartoons?
>>
>>115268300
>that recognizable "anime" style,
You say that after watching literally almost 20 anime, not counting movies?
>>
File: lmm.jpg (131.93 KB, 1600x900)
131.93 KB
131.93 KB JPG
>>115268333
>>
Big eyes, almost no nose, small mouth for young girls.
>>
>>115268946
>>
>>115268300
Shiny skin, big shiny eyes, shiny multi-colored hair.

Basically, it's gotta be shiny and skip a lot of frames.

Oh yeah, dark inks.
>>115269065
^ This was obviously done by a Westerner.
>>
>>115268300
Attention to quality and what makes my dick hard, of course.
Feel free to post your shitty /co/ flash animation tier crap to prove me otherwise.
>>
>>115269100
>Attention to QUALITY
FTFY
>>
>>115269099
Almost forgot, everything tends to stay on-model in anime. American cartoons squash and stretch fluidly. It's sometimes done in anime, but it's more goofy looking.
>>
Why is there no good musicals in anime like there is in Disney animations?
>>
File: hironori-tanaka.jpg (2.09 MB, 1969x1656)
2.09 MB
2.09 MB JPG
>>115269162
>everything tends to stay on-model in anime
I beg to differ, idiosyncratic animation styles are more common in anime. It's not uncommon to see talented animators having their own distinctive styles.
>>
>>115269099
>dark inks

I don't follow
>>
>>115269229
Look at that shit.

Same hair style, same eyes, same mouths, same chins.

It's like it could all be part of the same movie.
>>
>>115269216
Because it requires a suspension of disbelief far more than an average WWE show when everyone, heroes and villains alike, burst out into song and dance during a particularly serious scene?
>>
File: disney.jpg (378.50 KB, 677x1563)
378.50 KB
378.50 KB JPG
Why do you choose japanese style over this?
>>
>>115269295

>look at that shit they're all humans

Are you fucking retarded?
>>
>>115269506
Because that's ugly compared to the japanese style
>>
>>115268300
Low budgets mean they have to improvise and come up with various techniques that don't rely on on large frame counts
>>
>>115269506
The lack of shading is disgusting.
>>
File: 1359128628296.png (182.31 KB, 382x437)
182.31 KB
182.31 KB PNG
Arielle was my first waifu and still is
>>
>>115269529
No diversity in art style.

Sharp corners, everyone wearing eyeliner, exact same eye highlights, shiny hair and cell shaded shadows.
>>
>>115269577
But she's a slut.
Just look at the way she dresses.
>>
File: 1374527993575.png (1.47 MB, 1344x720)
1.47 MB
1.47 MB PNG
>>115269506
Because it looks sterile and boring
>>
>>115269295
They're all drawn by the same animator.
>>
File: ariel-aps.png (247.87 KB, 650x360)
247.87 KB
247.87 KB PNG
>>115269594
How are you supposed to dress underwater
>>
daily reminder Ghibli works are filled with propaganda making it unwatchable
>>
File: 1369700199689.jpg (185.36 KB, 1300x1000)
185.36 KB
185.36 KB JPG
>>115268946
>tfw this is ruining anime
>Those expressions during the final scene
I only still watch anime becuase this is merely a phase. They will go back eventually, I am sure.

>>115269577
Seven vaginas.
>>
>>115269625
explain
>>
>>115269506
Disney don't make 2D anything anymore.
>>
>>115269216
I'm pretty sure you can count every new anime with Sawano a musical at this point.

Also different business models. Elevens already promote and sell OPs, EDs and OSTs. No need to make even more musical numbers.
>>
File: 1407283455641.jpg (15.21 KB, 224x225)
15.21 KB
15.21 KB JPG
>>115268300
>>
File: Jane-Porter-(Tarzan).jpg (181.73 KB, 1280x720)
181.73 KB
181.73 KB JPG
Jane is best disney girl. Prove me wrong faglords
>>
>>115269216
That's because it's more like a play than a real life michael bay serious movie.
>>
>>115269674
Disney was shit anyway.
>Adapt Hunchback of Notredame
>Pussy out and edit it to hell
Either kill everyone like the source material, or dont adapt a fucking gothic novel, into a childrens film.

Ateast Hellfire was a good song.
>>
>>115269577
One thing that will always get me about her is that
SHE
CAN
WRITE.
>>
>>115269752
You are the same kind of faggot who complains that Hercules doesn't kill his wife and so on
>>
>>115269752
Well the real ending to the Little Mermaid was that she was turned into seafoam.
>>
>>115269741
I don't get it
>>
>>115269768
Well, she did it underwater. If they can write underwater, then she should know how to write.

>>115269752
Almost every fairytale is needlessly dark. I bet you also wanted Ariel to turn into seafoam too?
>>
>>115268300
The placement of facial features tend to be a lot more different. Longer faces and noses with eyes placed higher up, for example.
>>
>>115269838
fun
>>
>>115269804
And?
Stick to source material or dont bother.
>DIsney will never make a film where Zeus just rapes everything.

>>115269808
Sounds good to me. Didnt know that, but if thats how it ends, then thats how it should end.

>>115269840
>Almost every fairytale is needlessly dark.
>needlessly dark.

I dont know, the ones where Jews were the villains were pretty damn hilarious.
>>
>>115269216
Isn't Macross technically a musical?

>good musicals

Oh. Carry on then.
>>
>>115269730
>best Disney girl
>not the disgusting brown gypsy
>>
>>115268300
Look at this face
Isn't it neat?
Don't you think muh harem's complete?

Don't you think I'm the little girl
The little girl who has every dick.
>>
File: 1381091891389.png (237.38 KB, 680x465)
237.38 KB
237.38 KB PNG
Can't wait for this thread to turn into a silly west vs. east war
>>
>>115269840
>Almost every fairytale is needlessly dark.

It's not needless you dumb fuck, fairytales were cautionary tales for children that were supposed to teach them not to wander off alone into the fucking forest.
>>
>>115269674
What about Princess & The Frog and Winnie the Pooh?
>>
>>115269808
I remember NTR happening in it.
Was there NTR?
>>
>>115269970
Both flopped so no more 2D shit
>>
>>115269099
>This was obviously done by a Westerner.
No, it wasn't. learn2gaijinstyle
>>
>>115269901
>Stick to source material or dont bother.
This is what plebeians believe
>>
>>115270006

Bummer.

Then again Fantasia bombed on release.
>>
You can masturbate to anime
>>
>>115269730
I can't
>>
>>115269216
Daikon Brothers is in my backlog, I've heard it's a musical, is it not good?
>>
>>115269962
Yeah, I shouldn't have said needlessly. Only way to really scare those brats was with a fate worse than death.

>>115269970
Both flopped, especially Winnie the Pooh, Disney will never do one again. Also Winnie the Pooh came out, what, 4 years ago now? It was enjoyable though.
>>
>>115270028
Not everything is about your dick.
>>
>>115270050
I'll be the judge of that.
>>
>>115270028
>he can't mastubate to anyhting
plebs pls
>>
It's tiring watching modern western animation movies being "SPOT THE CELEBRITY CAMEO". Takes me right out of it.

Also despite having 10 billion times more budget the girls are still ugly.
>>
>>115270067
There are only two things I can't masturbate to
>3dpd
>western shit
>>
>>115270006
>Princess & The Frog
flopped because half of the civilized world is racist

fact
>>
>>115270042
Winnie the Pooh was released at the same time as the last Harry Potter movie, it had no other fate than to bomb, sadly
>>
>>115270067

Bad taste is better than no taste. Hang yourself.
>>
>>115269506
>those big ass monkey lips on ariel

gross dude
>>
>>115270096
Don't you essentially play the same thing with seiyuu though?
>>
>>115269962
Nah some of them seem pretty damn meaningless. But they also werent really dark.
The boy who went to learn what fear was, seemed pretty meaningless.
>>
>>115270151
You mean dick sucking lips.
For sucking fish dick.
>>
>>115270163
thats their job though. Theyre not there just to be there or as cross promotion
>>
>>115270006
Frozen is pretty big in Japan. Hopefully they dont copy Disney with 3D shit.
>>
>>115270195
But that bitch didn't want no fish dick, she only wants human dick
>>
>>115270206
Is Frozen really that good? I haven't seen my but most of my friends are hailing it as the greatest thing since sliced bread.
>>
>>115270163
Not to the same extent, and also because they are actually trained for it instead of turning up with varying degrees of voice talent (it's blatantly obvious a lot of them do not give a shit, whatsoever) and just bringing in ticket sales.
>>
>>115268300
Just splice a Disney splashcard onto the front of any dubbed anime and the plebs will praise it.
Source: i trick my ignorant parents all the time. They would never watch "those nip cartoons", but those Disney ones I bring around are great.
>>
>>115270251
It is ok, nothing really special but pretty to look at.

Tangled is miles better
>>
>>115269506
Because I don't like lips on my anime grills
>>
Shitty draftsmanship.
>>
>>115270251
Tangled was better.
>>
>>115269615
Animator isn't always a character designer.
>>
>>115270298
Shit taste
>>
>>115270279
>>115270309
You guys really think Tangled was better?
>>
>>115270251
Frozen was garbage. They re-wrote the story halfway thru production, the visuals are all "Snow snow and more snow, look some pretty ice! More snow now" and its stupid girl power lesbian themes are ugh. Build up the romance between the male and female characters and then like WOAH WE DON'T NEED NO MAN at the end.
>>
>>115270269
Fucking brilliant.
>>
>>115270363
Yes
>>
>>115268300
Somewhat jerky character animation. I can instantly tell if a scene is rotoscoped or 3D because there are too many things moving at once.
>>
>>115270364
>and its stupid girl power lesbian themes are ugh

I hate you people, there was no fucking incest lesbian under tone. Go back to dumblr
>>
>>115269216
Because there aren't many musicals in manga and novels. Also anime movies are not as often targeted at kids so there's no point in doing all the unnecessary choreography. animation and songs when money could be spent on something better than that.
>>
>>115270363
Miles better
>>
File: 1396630749865.jpg (24.32 KB, 400x266)
24.32 KB
24.32 KB JPG
>>115270364
>and its stupid girl power lesbian themes are ugh. Build up the romance between the male and female characters and then like WOAH WE DON'T NEED NO MAN at the end.
Atleast they know what tumblr wants.
>>
>>115270364
lesbian theme ? are you retarded anon.
>>
File: 1337065156810.gif (682.44 KB, 469x250)
682.44 KB
682.44 KB GIF
i feel like western animation is trying to capture movement in an abstract way while eastern animation is more direct.

imagine a scene with a girl turning her head. the western animators would animate that in a way that emphasizes and exaggerates gesture. eastern animators on the other hand would animate it in a more straightforward way. the movement would look more similar to to real life footage.

in anime the body structures (and everything in general) just seem to be a little more "solid" and life like, while disney would exagerrate even the movements.

so basically:
>anime
-stylizes humans
-doesn't stylize movement much

>disney
-stylizes humans
-stylizes movements heavily as well.

what do you guys think about this?
>>
File: SHT01.jpg (148.68 KB, 1600x900)
148.68 KB
148.68 KB JPG
>>115270675
>>
>>115270675
>astern animators on the other hand would animate it in a more straightforward way. the movement would look more similar to to real life footage.

>>115270726
Beat me to it.
>>
>>115270675
>doesn't stylize movement much
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aEmATUt2SY
>>
>>115270726
>>115270757
that is done on purpose though.
>>
>>115268300
Big flashy eyes, small nose and, most of the times, no lips.
Little to no squash and stretch.
Mostly animated on 3s.
>>
>>115270771
And those working at Disney were just ignorant of their animations 90% of the time?

Both were on purpose.
>>
>>115270675
anime is alot more broad subject then disney. Comparing them is pointless.

There are anime with stylized movement alot of it. Even trough an anime the animation style can change.

Disney is alway the same. Alway the same. Every animal are dog. Every archetype move the same way. It's a good style that was crafted with alot of care but it is still alway the same.

On the other hand you are comparing tv show to movie wich is unfair. There are disney TV show and they are just terrible star wars rebel is an exemple.

Also there is the idea of budget and how japanese animator are master of limited animation compared to disney.

A good exemple of masterfull imited animation is the castle of caliostro. Especially the car chase.
>>
File: Innocence Okiura 2.webm (2.37 MB, 640x346)
2.37 MB
2.37 MB WEBM
>>115270675
There are Japanese animators that favour realistic animation, but there are also those that go for really exaggerated movements, though they aren't based upon realistic motion like Disney-style animation.
>>
File: Spoiler Image (19.50 KB, 330x244)
19.50 KB
19.50 KB JPG
>>115269621
>>
>>115270324
This is fine, but Disney just goes fucking overboard with those pussy lips and make up. Anime girls look cuter and younger, even fucking badass ones like say, Shiki from Kara no Kyoukai, that bell pepper pilot girl from Gundam Unicorn, etc
>>
Fantasia 2000 is the pinnacle of western animation
>>
>>115270893
Is it bad I couldnt watch Innocence?
All the CGI just bothered me.
>>
>>
>>115270959
blast from the past
>>
>>115270959
Absolutely disgusting.
>>
File: 1398863433281.png (143.30 KB, 402x517)
143.30 KB
143.30 KB PNG
>>115268300
American cartoons are fully CGI, Japanese anime only uses CGI for mecha.
>>
>>115268300
Try watching more than 2-3 anime before asking that question.
>>
File: 1407550023542.jpg (497.39 KB, 691x1229)
497.39 KB
497.39 KB JPG
Not Disney but keeping with east vs west.
>tfw Japs never get muscular girls right
>>
>>115270941
But what about 30 years hand drawn, man?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmluf-qVuyY
>>
>>115270999
>Japanese anime only uses CGI for mecha.
lol
>>
>>115270941
This, Fantasia 2000 was amazing.
Too bad it's not that remembered.
>>
File: 1385331388338.gif (838.91 KB, 500x360)
838.91 KB
838.91 KB GIF
>>115270999
I wish they only used CGI for mecha.
Also
>Best Mech show
>Isnt even Japanese
>>
>>115270675
There was some panel on sakuga that you can probably find on YT.
Guys there were saying that early on up until '60s japanimators were following western principals of animation that it's known for (exaggerated movements, emotions and such). Then Miyazaki and a bunch of less famous guys appeared and started doing shit their way.

Faggots can preach that movement is stylized in anime too and they would be right to some extent but it's not characteristic to anime like it is so western animation so I would agree with you. Even when movement is actually stylized or exaggerated it's done in a way different from western animation who try to make movement and emotions painfully obvious.

Western animation barely even changed over the years since those faggots still work on same principals. Meanwhile Japan has some diversity in animation, from realists like Okiura to surrealists like Yuasa.
>>
>>115271032
>lol
>>
>>115270477

>Musicals
>In manga

What the fuck am I reading.jpg
>>
>>115268300
The "anime" style is often most recognizable by what isn't draw. Lines of the eyes and of the mouth are often broken, implying the complete shape.
>>
>>115270947
All you skipped is occasional real good animation and few good tracks from Kawai. It's a below average movie overall so you shouldn't regret skipping it.
>>
>>115270941
>>115271045
2000?
I don't think i ever heard of it. Is it the same as the original Fantasia?
>>
>>115269506
Because working with limited budgets is a thing.
>>
>>115269506
because Disney's dead
>>
>tfw western cartoons are dying

Will france save us? Will Canada ever stop being the cancer killing cartoons?
>>
>>115271108
Nah, that's a relatively recent style.
>>
>>115270941
>2000
>not 1940
Fucking pleb.
>>
I wonder what will happen when big hero 6 gets released. Cant wait to see an endless stream of knock offs.
>>
>anime "style" thread

reported
>>>/co/
>>
>>115271146
No, all new animated musical segments with the exception of The Sorcerer's Apprentice
>>
>>115271146
Pretty much. Less, uhh artsy though I would say.
More fun however. Just watch it.
>>
>>115271146

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eG_O1wEJ40


You should watch it
>>
File: IMG_046.png (23.84 KB, 383x209)
23.84 KB
23.84 KB PNG
>>115271107
Stop skipping classes faggot. Source material of most anime isn't suitable for musicals, therefore there are no musicals in adaptations.
>>
File: lol no u dont.jpg (3.97 KB, 152x134)
3.97 KB
3.97 KB JPG
>>115269506
I like both
>>
>>115270763
that's not the type of style i'm talking about.

>>115270861
>And those working at Disney were just ignorant of their animations 90% of the time?
what? ignorant? i never said they weren't doing it on purpose.
maybe i should clarify more.
i didn't find a gif of a head turning but see pic related for example. notice how the movement is exagerrated. the pacing of it isn't very realistic either. eastern animators would do it very differently.

of course, i'm not saying east and west are like black and white. this is just one of the differences in their approach i noticed.

>>115270834
>Little to no squash and stretch.
basically, this
>>
>>115270869
>A good exemple of masterfull imited animation is the castle of caliostro. Especially the car chase.

The clocktower part still blows my mind.
>>
>>115271163
Given the Wakfu animatins I have seen posted look like shit.
No, France cant save us.
>>
>>115270893

Jin-Roh looks like CG at times but isn't
>>
File: 41484581_p3.png (741.53 KB, 992x600)
741.53 KB
741.53 KB PNG
>>115271166
It was definitely missing in very early manga, but early manga borrowed a lot from the way disney drew characters. I think it's a accurate description of what people identify as "anime style" today.
>>
>>115271353
No wonder john lassester loved it.
>>
Why does no western animation studio want to make an Akira or a Jin-Roh?
They have far more than enough money to get that kind of shit done with their constant princess and vehicles cash-in movies.
Don't they want to push boundaries of what the west believe animation is all about? I can't see animators being totally satisfied with all of this.
>>
>>115270941

Is it really better than the original? I find that hard to believe.
>>
>>115271343
I think your pic is far more realistic than most anime.
>>
>>115271404
because its unprofitable
>>
>>115271404
Because that won't make money
>>
>>115271404
anime in the west is still seen as childish and something you bring your kids along to watch
>>
Chel is best Disney girl.
>>
File: having a giggle.png (30.14 KB, 236x274)
30.14 KB
30.14 KB PNG
>>115271457
>Chel
>Disney
>>
>>115271452
kids force you to come along*
>>
File: 1396653685690.gif (472.24 KB, 460x350)
472.24 KB
472.24 KB GIF
>>115271343
>notice how the movement is exagerrated.
Chibi.
Blue tinges when a characrer is sad or afraid.
Anime overdoes things plenty.
>>
File: the nose knows.png (1011.05 KB, 1280x688)
1011.05 KB
1011.05 KB PNG
>>115271404
>Don't they want to push boundaries of what the west believe animation is all about? I can't see animators being totally satisfied with all of this.
animation is still considered kiddy shit, also it is all about shekels
>>
>>115271422
Depends on your taste. The original was kinda boring for me, but I admit it was probably more beautiful.

Rhapsody in Blue is an amazing piece in Fantasia 2000 though, along with Carnival of the Animals.
>>
Masterpiece Of Animashon 。 Western Piggu Go Home
>>
>>115271508

>Post gay-on

You're a faggot

argument irrelevant try harder next time
>>
Big hero 5 or whatever looks like it's going to be a terrible movie.
Just wanted to throw that out.
>>
>>115271559
He is right. Anime exaggerated everything but in a different way than Disney.
>>
File: 1399436622845.png (839.56 KB, 446x480)
839.56 KB
839.56 KB PNG
>>115271559
>>
>>115271588
too bad itll inspired a new generation of weaboos
>>
>>115271487
Then Anastasia is best Disney girl.
>>
File: 1378655197951.gif (1.26 MB, 450x253)
1.26 MB
1.26 MB GIF
>>115271425
no, i'm talking about movements here.
nobody would actually move like that. when you see someone facepalming, it wouldn't look that complicated as a motion. but disney always tries to liven up it's animations though these exaggerated motions, as well as squash and stretch.

especially squash and stretch is something that anime doesn't do that much.
in anime, the MOVEMENTS are more real. i'm not talking about artstyle or angles and shots type stuff.
>>
>>115271422
Give it a chance
>>
>>115271487
Dreamworks animation was really good before they hit it big with Shrek and gave up on 2D forever.

Road to El Dorado and Sinbad are still two of my favorite animated movies.
>>
File: 1374865770333.jpg (56.62 KB, 640x480)
56.62 KB
56.62 KB JPG
>>115271559
Lets not even bother with lewd anime, where creators have no idea how breasts work. No excuse for it either, just watch porn for reference.
>>
>>115271617
>in anime, the MOVEMENTS are more real.
They are more limited. But that's because of smaller budget. It's not like animated characters can rival real life actors.
>>
File: 03_057.png (9.01 KB, 211x155)
9.01 KB
9.01 KB PNG
>>115271508
This faggot is so delusional he thinks SoL comedy shits can represent all of anime.
>>
File: 1412691271648.png (78.76 KB, 519x433)
78.76 KB
78.76 KB PNG
>>115271452

>People in the west thinking going to watch the Transformers or Pacific Rim is stupid and kiddish
>People think going to watch a movie where a woman appears in lingerie and is not even a pornstar just because they are horny or are forced to come along because of a woman isn't stupid and kiddish

I really don't want to think humanity is this retarded
>>
>>115271624
>not prince of egypt
>>
File: 1397330452769.jpg (29.27 KB, 620x349)
29.27 KB
29.27 KB JPG
>>115271617
>in anime, the MOVEMENTS are more real
You're the kid who ran with his arms behind his back, arent you?
>>
>>115271404
$$$$$$

That kind of tone is simply already done by live action movies and tv. There's little to no market for "serious animation" in the US. In France you still get some like Persepolis and The Illusionist. There's also Chico & Rita, Mary & Max and Waltz with Bashir in other countries. Barely any utilise the traditional kind of animation you're referring to though.
>>
>>115271624
I always thought The Prince of Egypt was their best 2D work, but El Dorado and Sinbad were pretty great too, it's too bad they never did anything 2D again after Shrek
>>
>>115269216
>evangelion
>people dancing and singing while 3rd impact is happening
EoE the musical WHEN??
>>
>>115271680
You're watching Japanese cartoons. Most of them aren't better than your examples.
>>
>>115271655
Someone post shit from Garden of words, this faggot needs it
>>
>>115268300
Nothing. There are some elements associated with the stereotypical anime style, just as there are some elements associated with the stereotypical American style. The thing is that they're just that: stereotypes. There are Western animations that look like anime, and some anime that looks very Western (in character design, something like Cowboy Bebop is closer to the western style than moeshit).

The difference is simple: Western animation is from the West, Anime is from Japan. Hell, the word Anime itself is meaningless in this regard. It comes from the French "animé", which literally means "animated". In the eyes of the Japanese, American cartoons are animé.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=anime
>>
>>115271639
>just watch porn for reference.

No thank you I want to be able to maintain an erection.
>>
>>115271704
Nah pick a mech show.
I want people dressed up as gundams to dance.
>>
File: BSno6.gif (2.91 MB, 307x230)
2.91 MB
2.91 MB GIF
>>115271649
that's a factor, that may even be the reason why anime turned out differently after all these years.
but it's not like real life actors make unecessary movements just because they are real either.

this is another example of what i'm talking about. the movements are shorter and more life like in comparison to the abstract and more drawn out motions of disney imo.
>>
>>115271070
Great taste anon. Made me remember I have to redownload it and rewatch it.
>>
File: 1353811580152.jpg (74.74 KB, 559x364)
74.74 KB
74.74 KB JPG
>>115271699
>The end of The Illusionist
>>
>>115271691
>>115271700
I had that and the Joseph one on video, and I guess I watched them so many times as I kid that they lost their charm.
Nice though, they were the only ones my grandma would really enjoy watching with me since there were religious. I'll rewatch it and see if they're better, I haven't seen them in years.
>>
>>115268300
- usually 8 fps, although important scenes may have more fps.
- attention to detail usually follows the viewer's intended gaze. Background characters won't move / will repeat the same set of gestures.
- fluid perspective transitions are rare. Panning is usually accomplished by translating the image, giving it a flat feel.
- background scenery worthy of a picture frame
- characters and moving scenery (eg: landslide, flying rocks) are limited to a small colour palette, and do not blend in with the background.
- buildings typical of Japanese architecture
- mountains / sea in the far background
>>
>>115271692
At least in anime the people don't flail around as thought they were made of rubber. Anime uses more 'solid' movements that tally with those of real humans.
>>
>>115271080
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwUrm_DEuZGlCNTaK3-P22Y8Br6BdxsCB

is it this?
>>
>>115271404
>Don't they want to push boundaries of what the west believe animation is all about?

They already have a style down, so all the money goes to advertising, VAs and technology.
Nowadays animation isn't about animation, it's about making things looks pretty, with realistic special effects and stuff like that. As dumb as that sounds.
>>
>People keep saying it is the way it is because making use of low budget
>When they get good budget they just use CG shit
>>
>>115271810
Yes.
>>
>>115271545
What is this? There's nothing from google.
>>
>>115271758
Why did they stop making it?
Why did CN stop making cartoons?
>>
>>115271807
It's a shame that you can't say the same about facial expressions. Which are incredibly exaggerated in anime.
>>
>>115271807
In some they do. Someone post that Sakamichi no Apollon gif/webm
>>
File: 1343137289097.jpg (13.75 KB, 200x200)
13.75 KB
13.75 KB JPG
>>115271761

>Someone else on /a/ saw The Illusionist
>>
>>115271840
angels egg
>>
>>115271807
>At least in anime the people don't flail around as thought they were made of rubber. Anime uses more 'solid' movements that tally with those of real humans.
Team rocket is blasting off again.
Pick any comedic thing where someone gets angry and punches someone. Huge tumor on their head at the very least.
>>
>>115271692
How can people possibly as dumb as you are? That dude isn't talking about how realistic is what happens on the screen. It about how it's portrayed.

Kid is running.

Western animation - add a bunch of smears, make his arms and leg movement more exaggerated to make it obvious that he's running. Maybe even turns his legs into a fucking wheel.

Eastern animation - kid is running.
>>
>>115271807
>At least in anime the people don't flail around as thought they were made of rubber
You say that like it's something bad
>>
>>115271699
I really love that movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-KChYBFiB0
>>
>>115271863
>still in my backlog
was it good?
>>
>>115271903
Yes. France is the savior of western animation
>>
>>115271840
You were searching the thumbnail, weren't you?
>>
>>115269506
Why am I not allowed to like both?
>>
>>115271946
Yeah. So that doesn't work all the time?

>>115271868
Thanks, I actually suspected that was it.
>>
>>115271840
That's not actually a masterpiece of animation though. There is absolutely no reason for you to see it unless you're into religion and even then I'd have some doubts.

90% of the movie is just panning over still frames. Scene in screenshot lasts a couple of minutes during which only thing that moves is light.

90% of dialogue are just religious quotes.

Made by DEEN.
>>
File: Hedgehog-in-the-Fog-2.jpg (26.49 KB, 400x300)
26.49 KB
26.49 KB JPG
I think Spice & Wolf S3 will be out before this is finished

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Overcoat_(animated_film)

>as of July 2014, the film remains unfinished, its production time of over thirty years is the longest for a motion picture in history.
>>
>>115272038
>There is absolutely no reason for you to see it unless you're into religion

What
>>
Disney animation goes for stylized realism where movements are given a degree of exaggeration. On the other hand there's stuff like Looney Tunes where the animation is wildly exaggerated and the movements are far from realistic.
>>
Since this thread exist, what's the general consensus on Wakfu?
>>
>Forced animation
>>
>>115272039
30 YEARS HANDDRAWN
>>
>>115272061
It's a main theme of the movie.
>>
>>115272078
Hips and i only know it by THAT animation.
>>
>>115272078
don't watch the dub
>>
>>115269506

Now post images from TV show.
>>
>>115272078
It's complete wak
>>
>>115271892
>add a bunch of smears, make his arms and leg movement more exaggerated to make it obvious that he's running. Maybe even turns his legs into a fucking wheel.
Plenty of that smear shit in fight scenes.
>>
>>115272039
Do you think there's some slavs on some Russian imageboard posting "Overcoat never"?
>>
>>115271699
Y'all niggers need to watch Ernest and Celestine if you liked these
>>
>>115272039
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQfwyNGf5D0
>>
File: 1374514571390.gif (2.98 MB, 370x208)
2.98 MB
2.98 MB GIF
>>
File: 354345345345.jpg (28.10 KB, 198x161)
28.10 KB
28.10 KB JPG
>>115272235
>>
>>115271163
I would hope so, how often does France put out animated stuff?
>>
>>115272269

>Those ears

Every time
>>
>>115272117
I got interested by using flash animation after watching mlp I'm so sorry.

>>115272121
That's disappointing

>>115272149
What does that even mean?
>>
File: 1374451512333.gif (3 MB, 360x203)
3 MB
3 MB GIF
>>
>>115272272
FUCK YOU AND YOUR RUSSIAN CRYPTIC CODE MEMES
>>
File: 1343412547597.jpg (577.15 KB, 1510x2538)
577.15 KB
577.15 KB JPG
I don't remember when I saved this.
>>
File: 1413150928248.jpg (6.76 KB, 250x238)
6.76 KB
6.76 KB JPG
>>115270006
Makes you wonder if it was intentional just so they could say 2D failed them so they're sticking with 3D. Winnie the Pooh barely got any marketing and Princess and the Frog targeted a niche audience. Disney's 3D films are suddenly good too while Pixar has suddenly began dipping these past few years after a brilliant track record over a decade. What happened? Was Disney taking some staff from Pixar or something? I know Lasseter or some big name guy from Pixar works in Disney now, and he was one of the guys who supported the return to 2D animated films I heard.
>>
>>115270109
princess and frog was mostly shit
it was made just so disney could have a black princess. its a big fat advertisement
>>
File: 90j90document.gif (497.98 KB, 448x252)
497.98 KB
497.98 KB GIF
>>
>>115270109
But they loved 12 Years a Nigger
>>
>>115272269
Try as they might, anime never looks fluid. It always feel like several frames are being skipped.
>>
File: 1331763956136.jpg (10.98 KB, 203x251)
10.98 KB
10.98 KB JPG
>>115272317
>>
>>115272504
money
>>
File: 1373073864659.gif (413.83 KB, 349x208)
413.83 KB
413.83 KB GIF
>>115272302
You don't know THAT animation?
>>
>>115272491
that wasnt an animation
>>
>>115272504
To be honest I'm fine with it. It makes for a clear distinction between hand drawn animation and rotoscoping.
>>
File: Frog of Sadness.jpg (7.79 KB, 228x221)
7.79 KB
7.79 KB JPG
>>115271692
Don't remind me
>>
>>115270726
>>
Anime is not something entirely different

http://themovieblog.com/2013/how-walt-disney-influenced-anime/

tl;dr: The forefather of what Manga and Anime is today was a huge disneyfag (watched Bambi 80 times). Anime just took a different direction than western cartoons. Anime uses the cute (big head, big eyes) style also for serious and violent series and is generally much more focused on the eyes when it comes to showing emotions.

Also, anime eyes are not just big, but also very detailed. Just watch some videos of manga and other comic artists and you'll see.
>>
File: 1408413423163.webm (2.57 MB, 640x360)
2.57 MB
2.57 MB WEBM
This is pretty good animation. I just want an excuse to post it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byAfC5yW_hw
>>
>>115272593
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjme6FmPI3c
>>
File: IMsQR1H.jpg (643.64 KB, 2417x1984)
643.64 KB
643.64 KB JPG
>>
>>115272593
Why didn't you just say Osamu Tezuka?
>>
>>115272588
That looks creepy.
>>
>>115271861
>cherry picking
>>
>animation fags
Good animation doesn't matter if everything else is bad.
>>
>>115272663
Not even Sailor Moon looks like Sailor Moon
>>
>>115269999
Replying to 2 hour post

>I'm marrying the girl who rescued me from the great storm over the sea
>I'm the mermaid who rescued you and brought you back on-shore except I can't speak
>j/k I'll marry the first girl who stepped on the beach
>>
>>115272663
Most of these look similar, though.
>>
>>115272626
This is what made me watch the movie.
>>
>>115272672
To dismiss the statement that "they don't".
>>
>>115272663
>no Clannad
>>
>>115272676
I watched Redline solely for animation, it's worth watching solely for animation. I left pleased because animation alone was just woah.
>>
>>115272676
it does
>>
>>115270109
I've always hated the little stupid controvery this film got.

The theme of race was never touched.Tiana's family were poorfags and she was trying to make her dreams come true through guts and hard work

And the Evangeline Bug, man.

;_;
>>
The French are the best animators
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6ZmMjMdrqs
>>
>>115272749
All of Redline is good though.
>>
File: WTF faces.webm (2.24 MB, 1920x1080)
2.24 MB
2.24 MB WEBM
>not knowing what makes anime look anime
>>
>>115270298
>>>115269884
>>
>>115270364

>WOAH WE DON'T NEED NO MANA

Are you a faggot or what?

It was SISTAH POWAH. And one of them had a boyfriend at the end.
>>
I seriously don't know, but after having several to many different manga books and anime shows, you just have a feeling for what's anime and what's not.
>>
>>115272790
I won't disagree, though story wasn't to my taste.
>>
>>115272794
>rooster teeth anime
Disgusting
>>
>>115272789
I love these short youtube things


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkAYze6ae18
>>
>>115272950
more like autism anime
>>
watching western cartoon is liked being force to watch children's version of Hayao Miyazaki's works.
>>
>>115273032
so like Totoro?
>>
>>115269942
Fuck you. I sang.
>>
>>115272982
You should watch Anime Mirai over the past few years if you haven't already.
>>
>>115271019
>implying
>>
>>115273068
Totoro is the best Ghibli.
>>
Dem lips
>>
>>115273068
you know it based on true story, right?
>>
>>115273205
It's not, but it's influenced by Miyazaki's own experience.
>>
>>115271612
Well, she is best girl.
>>
>>
>>115273383
Okiura is amazing.
>>
>>115272662

Not the same dude, but I like to believe the majority of the people that are in this thread (especially in this board and especifically in this thread) would know who the "Forefather" of manga and anime was without mentioning his name.
>>
>>115271019
Haven't watched Jormungand, have you?

Also
>Korra
Did season 3 and 4 manage to be just as bad as 2?
>>
>>115273656
Yes but Osamu Tezuka IS the forefather, so I don't see the reason to purposely obscure something slightly that should be incredibly obvious to anyone that knows anything about anime. I'll just put it down to splitting hairs.
>>
>>115273807
they are actually pretty good so far
>>
>>115269216
How about Symphogear?
>>
>>115268300
You are using the movie to compare TV so why don't you compare to disney TV shows to anime
Or at least compare Movie vs Movie
>>
R.I.P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlwV3scCgAM
>>
Cute butts give away japanimation.
>>
>>115269752
I didn't need them to keep the ending - the protagonist not getting the girl is already asking a lot of Disney, let alone everyone dying - but the fucking gargoyles killed it.

If they'd approached the whole movie with the attitude they took toward the Hellfire/Heaven's Light sequence, it'd have been so much better.
>>
File: F159_0-650x276.jpg (39.12 KB, 650x276)
39.12 KB
39.12 KB JPG
>>115272593
You forgot to mention that Tezuka was influenced by chink animation like Princess Iron Fan (first asian animation feature film) and Havoc in Heaven by the Wan brothers.

Why do people keep forgetting that it was Japan that destroyed the Chinese dream with kamikaze tanks?

It's only fair that China steals some of it back.
>>
>>115273807
They're better actually.
>>
File: 1412998160989.jpg (16.64 KB, 280x280)
16.64 KB
16.64 KB JPG
>nitpicking the thread
>>
>>115272078
Its pretty fun to watch and its well executed overall
>>
>>115273998
They're still doing the 2D version. As web only episodes by Toei, so yeah, I'm not very enthusiastic
>>
>>115274270
>no slap
>>
File: 1397433597258.gif (123.81 KB, 210x255)
123.81 KB
123.81 KB GIF
Ariel is moe as fuck
>>
It being a very specific copy of Disney stuff which in itself has a pretty recognizable style.
>>
>>115273852
>>115274419
Nice to know, thanks.
>>
>>115274785
1 > The Beginning (1&2) > 3 > 4 > rest of B2
>>
>>115274664
Like a lot of 80's cartoon/anime girls
>>
>>115275094
Is that a korra ranking?
>>
>>115275163
They weren't overly moe like they are today though
>>
>>115275094
But the first season sucked, do 3 and 4 suck too?
>>
>>115269962
>fairytales were cautionary tales for children

A lot of fairytales were stories that adults told each other. Them being especially for children wasn't a thing in the beginning.
For example the Geimm fairytales were collected from stories people told each other and heavily censored.
>>
>>115269584
You're blind
>>
>>115275317
>Geimm fairytales
Did you mean Grimm?
>>
>>115275364
Yea, missed the r key.
>>
>>115275094
>season one better than three

Also, season four only has two episodes
>>
>>115275230
I have to agree.

They had the right amount of cute.
>>
>>115271775
>- attention to detail usually follows the viewer's intended gaze. Background characters won't move / will repeat the same set of gestures.
I always feel disturbed when the characters in the background do not blink or squint their eyes for several seconds. It's like theatre.
>>
>>115274453
>/mu/ memes
>>
>>115274368
what is your pic?
>>
>>115268300
Ariel is my waifu.
>>
>>115269216
Thank fucking god. Musical is the most idiotic form of story-telling.
>>
>>115269752
Hunchback annoys the piss out of me, it has some of the best no punches pulled darkness in a Disney movie but the gargoyles ruin the fuck out of it, someone should do an edit that minimizes their role.
>>
>>115277062
Hey,

fuck you
>>
>>115277122
Kill yourself murritard.
>>
>>115277161
nice assumptions
>>
>>115277062
Confirmed for never having gone to theatre to see a decent musical.
>>
>>115277062
It's just very hard to get right but it adds a lot when well executed.
>>
>>115269529
99% of anime could be easily recognized to be anime with a quick glance at the character designs. Western animation has a lot more variety.
>>
>>115277062
I disagree.
>>
>>115277237
South Park sucks
>>
>>115277122
>serious plot moment
>"Wow this is really interesting, can't wait to see what's gonna happen ne-"
>they start singing a song that 95% of the time isn't good
>this goes on for five minutes
>i just want the plot to move forward already
No. Fuck you.
>>
>>115277771
Nice opinion you have there.
>>
>>115275309
How come? It had an awesome setting and antagonist, plus a hot chick that could kick ass (too bad they ruined her in season 2)
>>
>>115278110
>hot chick
>>
>>115277793
You you convinced me with those hot opinions
>>
>>115272426
Winnie the Pooh flop was totally intentional. They released it months before in the rest of the world and it was in few theaters when it finally premiered it in America.
They also decided to release Princess and the Frog almost at the same time as Avatar if I remember correctly.
>>
>>115278350
Why would they flop something on purpose?
>>
>>115278350
That doesn't make any sense.

And why are you comparing Princess and the Frog with Avatar? Avatar wasn't even a children's movie.
>>
>>115278335
I'm I'm sure I did.
>>
>>115268300
It's the shading, That's all there is to it.
>>
>>115278110
Not the same anon, but the shipperfaggotry ruined it for me.

Is like the deliberatly made the MC and the fire dude fall in love here because the fanbase cried and bitched that the water chick and the fire dude from the previous series never got together.

Also Asami a best, Bolin a bro...

...And Mako a shit.

A SHIT.
>>
>>115278869
Thank god they dropped the shipping shit in season 3
>>
>>115278789
*you sure

fag
>>
>>115279010
All I saw of season 3 was Asami and Korra in bondage gear in a small cell.

It it still wasn't enough to make me watch after the travesty of season 2.
>>
>>115279010
They did? PRAISE ALLAH
>>
>>115279066
what, that scene is like 2 minutes
>>
>>115279010
Thank goodness.

Maybe I'll pick it up again someday.
>>
File: 1376235013889.png (92.33 KB, 448x336)
92.33 KB
92.33 KB PNG
>>115279051
>likes musicals
>calls someone a fag
>>
File: 1357516669053.jpg (19.38 KB, 192x186)
19.38 KB
19.38 KB JPG
>>115279236
yes you are
>>
>>115272039
>Шинель
Damn, I love Gogol.
>>
>>115272039
Shit nigga, I want to see that now. 30 years is also a really long time. How the hell could you not fit at least an hour in of a movie in those 30 years?
>>
File: ThiefMk4Work1-262.jpg (203.14 KB, 1000x480)
203.14 KB
203.14 KB JPG
>>115279647
Have you seen a film called a Thief And A Cobbler?
>>
>>115271545
Do nips even like angel's egg? I figured it was too good for their shitty tastes.
>>
>>115271602
Perhaps a better way to phrase what I think that anon was getting to is that western animation tends to exaggerate motion, where anime will often exaggerate facial expressions.
>>
>>115279772
No, haven't, but you've definitely picked my interest with this.
>>
>>115279944
30 YEARS HAND DRAWN
Will never be finished as the author intended, also check this scene:
>>115271026
>>
File: 1410992712327.webm (1.93 MB, 854x480)
1.93 MB
1.93 MB WEBM
>>115279944
>>115280076
And this.
>>
>>115280076
>>115280102
So wait, this was also 30 years in production?
Also, shit that looks nice as hell. Brb, going to go watch it.
>>
>>115278455
I suspect with Princess and the Frog it's also about the black princess. This way they can say 'we did one so stop complaining' but also don't have to put her on too much merchandise and shit because it flopped.
>>
File: Redline.gif (502.02 KB, 500x281)
502.02 KB
502.02 KB GIF
>Disney
>any good after Don Bluth left

Yeah, no.
>>
>>115278869
Oh, well I remember diesel-punk wizards, communist terrorists and a tribal girl with great legs rather than some romance stuff. I remember Mako being a pain in the pants though.
>>
File: Cash Money.png (1.87 MB, 1280x1233)
1.87 MB
1.87 MB PNG
>>115268300
No fucking clue, even westerners that exclusively draw anime stuff can't get it down 100% save a handful of people, as you can always seem to tell it's by a westerner, even if it's just a still image.

Not to say westerners are shit, I just prefer westerners drawing more western stuff.
>>
File: Spoiler Image (17.94 KB, 286x225)
17.94 KB
17.94 KB PNG
>>115272078
>>
>>115271070
.. yeah 2d mecha don't look better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRTAkW2uZoU
vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMr1R3gGlvc

Im being fair there.
>>
>>115280397
Read the wiki. Basically, Warner has killed a man's dream.
>>115271026
This scene, for example, was found in Warner Animation head Macurdy's trash by a former "Thief" animator.
>>
>>115280643
Duck off
>>
>>115279772
I've heard of it.

Is that the one the executives ended up editing, cutting and overall shitting on it in the teather version against the creator's will to serve as Disney's Aladdin competitor or something?
>>
File: 1392956162863.png (8.85 KB, 363x349)
8.85 KB
8.85 KB PNG
>>115280764
Yes.
>>
>>115270109
It flopped because it was boring, the princess spends 3/4 of the movie as a frog, and the soundtrack didn't have any memorable songs.
If you look at the popular Disney movies now, they all have more modern sarcastic humor and self-referential stuff and flashy CG. Frog Princess felt too old-fashioned for the current audience.
>>
>>115272588
Muh dick
>>
File: Kuiba-3-2014-1.jpg (110.94 KB, 399x577)
110.94 KB
110.94 KB JPG
>>115276986
Chink animation.

Kuiba. There's like 3 movies of it.

Has comfy females.
>>
>>115269216
>Why is there no good musicals
Because there no good musicals
>>
>>115268300
Disney having a budget of millions and the average anime having a budget of 2 yen
>>
>>115269940
Frolo pls go
>>
Heavy Metal is the pinnacle of Western animation.
>>
>>115284917
This soundtrack was my jam from preschool up until 2nd or 3rd grade. Still awesome.
>>
>>115274270
>american animation are scared to death of female nudity
>>
>>115287031
Not just their animation and not just female nudity.
>>
>>115272663
Most of those look similar. The ones that really stick out are by the same guy or are actually based on western animation. Some feature characters that aren't standard for the anime they're featured in and some of those show characters in situations that make them look different then normal.

Sorry, this list is total bullshit.
>>
I'll just leave this here. Art student project, Fumiko's Confession:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QqT1P4VO30
>>
>>115288171


Cute.

Nice animation and the CGI didn't look annoying.

I wish it was more HQ, though.
>>
File: Capture4.png (1.42 MB, 1605x910)
1.42 MB
1.42 MB PNG
>>115270937
not enjoying lushes lips on anime charcters
>>
>>115272794
>>115272950
Why didn't the creator just stick with making Dead Fantasy. That shit was awesome.
>>
>>115269506
No choice.
>>
>>115290798
>Dead Fantasy

What the...he's the same guy? I thought he was on hiatus.
>>
>>115290911
Yeah it's the same guy. You can tell from all the fight scenes and weapons designs.

Dead Fantasy is on hiatus because he's doing that other 3DPD piece of shit animu
>>
>>115268300
>What gives Japanese cartoons that recognizable "anime" style, compared to American cartoons?

Now you're just trying to get us help you write an essay.
>>
Shadows.
>>
This >>115269295 is how stupid people sound when they say KyoAni makes all their characters the same.
>>
>>115291588
It's more justified since they have a very defined style. That's part of what allows them to maintain a high standard in their production value.



Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.