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So when did Fairy Tail become Objectively shit?

Say what you will about bleach and Naruto but their are still good moments, and people will still defend them

But fairy tail...dear god.
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A manga that's a blatant visual ripoff of One Piece turns out to be shit? what a surprise
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>>115261309
It used to be decent, it Peeked with the Laxus arc then Went down like a comet
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No. They're all unsalvageable.
Pick your shounen series more carefully next time and pray that it's one of those rare ones that can keep up the quality.
Did you mean "they're"? I would write it off as the usual 4chan trolling but your typing is kind of subpar all throughout.
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>>115261431
AND I USED THE WRONG THERE TOO
GOOD JOB
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>>115261244

I dropped it around the tournament. No regrets.
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>>115261467
That was the straw that broke the camels back for me too.

so much wasted potential....
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every arc is the same
with no end insight.
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>>115261244
You must be new here
fairy tail gets a sizable audience on /a/ every week
they just don't shitpost all the time like other fandoms
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>>115261244
>Say what you will about bleach and Naruto but their are still good moments
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>>115261244
after the time skip when the author stole the sole one moment of awesomeness from lucy, publicly humiliated her, just so natsu has another reason to rage and kick everyone's ass later on.
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>ctrl+f
>chapter 1
>no results

What?
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>>115261467
>>115261532
it had its moments but then the dragon festival came up and then bullshit after bullshit(much more than usual)
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>>115261244
>reading FT for the "plot"
If you don't read FT for tits you are doing it wrong.
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>>115261244
Edoras.

>>115261356
Oracion Seis was still pretty good, with just the Lucy fight being shit. Tenrou was really good too, for the most part. I maintain Edoras was the low point in overall arc quality.

>>115262049
GMG was mostly fun, but the previously-consistent powerlevels got thrown out of whack by the timeskip and Second Origin.
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>>115261244
Since the fucking start. Say what you want,but Fairy Tail didn't get worse. Stupid asspulls where there since the very beginning,and the characters pretty much stayed the same.
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>>115261244
It peaked at the Laxus arc and truly went to shit a bit before the timeskip.
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>>115261244
I know it's shonen, but the lack of actual consequence for all the characters kills it for me. I used to love FT but after however many chapters it's a bit tedious to just see characters that may as well be immortal fighting enemies that were never going to win in the first place. No one can die, the characters don't really develop instead they just get back stories.

For me this makes continuing with the series feel pointless because at the end of the day Fairy Tail will come out on top unscathed and any drama that may have occurred in an arc is irrelevant.
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Fairy Tail's never had a good plot. It more of the generic fanservice shounen on steroids.
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Fairy Tail has been shit from the start, you just didn't realize it was going to repeat itself every single arc.

Bleach and Naruto both started up good or at least decent but then turned into mediocre shit.
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I started hating it during the Oracion Seis Arc.
Is that soon enough?
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Fairy Tail had massive issues from the very start. No idea why it got as popular as it did.
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>>115264167
Jellal came back at this point so yes. Same way Naruto goes to shit when Tobi appears.
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>>115264363
>No idea why it got as popular as it did
It's mostly popular with kids. Which could explain the severe lack of quality porn.
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>>115261467
>>115261532
this. dropped it a couple of chapters after the tournament. They could have made them slowly work their way up the ranks to become the best guild again, at least Kubo's trolls are funny in a way, this was just pointless.
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The chapters after Lucy joined the guild?

At least there were still some kind of objective that made the plot going before Lucy joined FT even if the fights were extremely generic. After that, generic plot after generic plot. FT is the very definition of shounen shit.
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>>115261596
>KUBOOO moments
>not good moments
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>>115261692

Ow man, that's stupid.
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>>115264932
Might've worked in One Piece.
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>>115264927
>Mashima

I see it's been modified for the future.
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>>115261244
>dat edgy actions
>dat childish edgy actions
>dat fanservice childish edgy actions
>dat shitty stories of fanservice childish edgy actions

tl;dr

>Edgy actions
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>>115265914
You got something to say, you slobbering drunk who can't even buy brandy?
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>>115265349
Fairy tail is shit and all, but edgy is not a fitting description for it.
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>>115261244
It wastes time. It's one of the reasons I like it.
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>>115266157
>Fairy Tail
>not edgy
Ya blew it.
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>>115266183
>It wastes time
But you already got 4chan for that.
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>>115266312
Causing freak accidents through cause and effect isn't enough, and I can't compete with nature anyways. I swear that woman is one ice cold momma, except when volcanoes erupt and a specific type of star rips all of your molecules apart from your own body or some other shit.
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It's garbage, but I would let every fairy girl sit on my face, holy shit, they're all so damn hot, knows how to draw tits and ass.
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It's always been awful in plot and fights, the noly good thing it's the fanservice. It's not even the best shonen at drawing tits and asses, there's Shokugeki for that.
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>>115266859
muh dik
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>>115266965
post the one of lucy and the other slut in a bikini, muh fucking diiiiiick
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>>115267052
You'll have to be more specific. Lucy has a lot of stuff where she's in a bikini.
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>>115267104
the one when they're in the underground hell dungeon you can't escape then a bunch of murderers come down to kill them during the magic games.
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>>115267129
Uh, this one?
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I can probably say when it got shit in a single word. "Wendy"
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>>115267165
>hating wendy
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>>115267144
yes, muh fucking dick.
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>>115267206
Mirajane has a tendency to do that.
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>>115267229
nah, fuck that grandma, she's the worst. Every other girl but her, she just has titties in that one image.
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>>115261244
Edo arc. Definitely
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FTs fanservice is just as cheap as it´s arc structures
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>>115267277
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>>115267382
that hair ruins it.
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>>115267277
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>natsu is an unlikable person with no character development whatsoever
>lucy cries every fucking arc every fucking time
>bullshit powerups
>cringe inducing friendship speeches
>relies too much on fanservice
>less than death than even one piece
These are all objective facts. You literally can't deny any of this happening.
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>>115267389
>>115267277
The hair is what you hold onto while plunging in from behind.
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>lucy will never accidentally sit on your face, then remove her panties and force you to eat her ass.


Why live?
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>>115267195
Fuck off. You wanted to cut your hair, you brought this on yourself worst girl.
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>>115267465
mira a best
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>>115267194
To put it simply she blows
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>>115267454
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>>115267454
>erza will never force you to eat her ass

double suffering
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>>115261244
>So when did Fairy Tail become Objectively shit?
It's the same shit it was when it started.
>Say what you will about bleach and Naruto but their are still good moments
No there aren't.
>and people will still defend them
Those people should be banned.
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>>115267481
It was cut on one side by Ezel during their fight. She just evened it out.
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>>115267508
Why would you be interested in her ass when she has these?
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>>115267592
She got a fatty both ends nigga
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>>115267592
Whatever floats your boat
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>>115267621
The back is nothing compared to the front with her.
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>>115267621
>filename

Impeccable taste, sir.
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>>115267650
letspretendtotakethebait.jpg
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>>115267650
they're both amazing, don't give me that.

>>115267686
millianna the true best girl.
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>>115262512
>Since the fucking start.
This. I tried reading the series a few years ago and couldn't catch up to the lack of scanlations. The only really enjoyable chapter was about the FT member that turned out to be a summon who almost died in a feud with his summoner.
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>>115267714
Hey, if it gets more pics posted. Erza is clearly bisexual anyway.
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>>115261309
>implying Oda can draw as good as mashima

One Piece is just popular because of it's long running time and therefore its name. Like DBZ was back then. From todays point of view, Wan Piss is shit in Story AND ESPECIALLY art.
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>>115267847
>bait.jpg

Look, Mashima's women might get me harder than Oda's, but it's just a style preference, I'm sure that there are plenty of people out there who fap to OP.
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>>115267899
I'm not even talking about the women dude.
And yes Odas women might bearable but Mashima is superior in every aspect.
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>>115267847
>trying this hard
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>>115267847
gr8b8m8 8/8
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>>115261431
What are some good shounens then?
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>>115267995
>getting this mad
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>>115268016
One Piece
Hunter X Hunter
Gash Bell
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>>115268016
None, anime's for children honestly.

I guess if Shounen still had Jojo that would be it.
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>>115267999
Trips confirm, Lucy a best.
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>>115268036
very good taste
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>>115268036
>One Piece
Come on, it's shit after Skypeia
And the timeskip is just horrible, just look at chopper
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>>115268036
I couldn't get into one piece and Hunter is about a kid but I will look into Gash bell.
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>>115268196
Just watch or read Rurouni Kenshin
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>>115268036
>Wan Piss
>Hiatus x Hiatus
>Gash finished

Sure
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>>115268054
Parts 5 and 6 were shit, the first 3/4s of Part 7 were GOAT and then it turned to shit as well. It's fine to enjoy JoJo but it isn't as flawless as you closet faggots insist it is.
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>bait upping its game against the detox
Was gonna leave this to dumper #1, but I guess I can pitch in a bit longer.
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>>115268221
That's a terrible opinion you got there bruh.
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>>115261783
The manga is now old enough to 'have been good at some point (cutoff for said point shifts the more chapters there are)', despite us all shitting on it when it started.
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>>115268036
>One Piece
Fun when it's not in battle shounen mode, which it has been for a while now.

>Hunter x Hunter
It's alright. A very traditional shounen, if that makes sense, also very dull in the beginning honestly.

>Gash Bell
It's really, really repetitive.

>>115268221
From SBR onwards it wasn't a shonen anymore. Aside from the silly Soundman shit what was so bad about the end of it?
I agree that Vento Aureo was weak but Stone Ocean was fun in my opinion.
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>>115268143
>>115268196
>>115268215
dat fucking shit taste
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And it turns out I had an old sage option enabled in my phone. No wonder my attempted thread save failed the other day.
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We just grown up.
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>>115268221
Vento Aureo is over hated as hell. I'll give you part 6 but I will not give you 5.
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>>115267847
>One Piece is just popular because of it's long running time

why are Ippo, Kochikame and Jojo not as popular then?
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>>115261244
Turned to shit after Edoras, after it just became the same thing again and again
>>115268016
One piece
Hunter x hunter
Nanatsu no taizai
Jojo
Full metal alchemist
Those are the ones that immediately came to my mind
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It's all the same fucking shit, FT massively overdoes it with the "power of friendship" thing but in essence pretty much every other popular battle shounen boils down to exactly that as well.

Try a different genre instead.
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>>115268143
topbait
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>>115268392
Because One Piece had a good start. But at some point it went shit like Bleach and people stopped caring about a good story.
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>>115268495
no, not really
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>>115268495
What do you mean by good start?
Quality wise or sales wise?
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>>115268495
One Piece did not get good until atleast the Baratie/Sanji arc, so no it didn't have a good start. If people were to decide on what to read judging solely by the first 20-30 chapters, which honestly is a very reasonable thing to do really, then it'd be totally understandable that they pick shit like Naruto or Blech over One Piece solely because even those series have more engaging beginnings.
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>>115268553
>until Baratie
That's practically the beginning. When I say a good start I'm not talking about the first few chapters obviously. Seeing how long OP is running Baratiearc can be seen as beginning.
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>>115268634
It's 42 chapters in, dude. OP running for so long has nothing to do with anything.
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Eh, out of other girls. Bedtime.
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>>115268706
How about one last fap before bed?
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>>115268339
>>115268489
lame b8
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>>115268745
Gracias
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>>115267847

Please tell me you're not trying to say the right one looks better.
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>>115268901
Please gauge your eyes out, you don't deserve to see things if you prefer the left
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>>115268892
You're welcome.
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I just realized people are waking up on east coast. No wonder.
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>>115268706
I will continue in your stead.
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>reading Bleach for anything but Rukia and Fashion
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>>115269335
Whoops, meant to post this one instead. Why do I even have that shitty thing from tumblr... gotta organize my folder...
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>>115269335
I miss fashion.
Since Bleach's rating had stayed low Kubo rarely ever gets color pages anymore.
I wish Kubo would teach Tosh some fashion.
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>>115262207
>Oracion Seis was still pretty good
>Mashima Removing one leg from Nirvana because he forgot how to count
>DRAGON FORCE
>All those shit villains
>Gerard...again
>Sixth Sense ending

Yeah...no
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>>115268553
Plus those other manga were faster in the begining while One Piece slowly introduced the main characters and world in those first 100 chapters, which I think is one of the things that helped benefit the later arcs like Alabasta.

Now One Piece is jammed packed with plot and sometimes too much happens in a single chapter.
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>>115270482
Two legs, actually. Because he realized he had a hero shortage for the endgame. Still not as bad as Edoras.

Was also mostly fine with the Oracion Seis as villains, and the new allies were good additions.

Wendy a cute.
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Can you name a decent shounen manga?
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It always was a generic shonen. Became a shit since Edolas
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>>115261244
Chapter 1.
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>>115261244
Probably after Zero arc. It was pretty fun but after bullshit nakama powerup, I couldn't take anymore.
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How do you feel about Rave Master compared to Fairy Tail, /a/?
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It just never learned how to develop or build up scenarios that lead to meaningful and emotional moments.
The shit they pulled with Lisanna was ridiculous.
Erza's a fun character but her being as strong as she is now because 'she's Erza' has crossed 5 lines too many.
No one cares about 'I eat fire every arc, gain power up, beat boss' mc.

The Mavis side story has a pretty good start however.
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Why would I read FT when I have /a/ to sift the good parts out?
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>>115273107
I am slightly disappointed that I missed the Black Lilith game plot arc.
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>>115272421
Rave was obviously better.
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>>115271285
see >>115268036
also: Full Metal Alchemist, Dragon Ball, Slam Dunk
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>>115272421
Both are terrible but Fairy Tail manages to be worse.
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>>115272421
Rave's manga was poorly-drawn for like the first seven volumes so it's probably worse overall art quality-wise. Story-wise I like Haru better than most of FT's cast.
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>>115268322
Gash Bell has only 3 arcs and they are all fairly different from each other. The last one is probably the worst,but still.
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I find Fairy Tail's art very generic and lacking of a distinct style to set it apart from other stuff.
I'm surprised at how well recieved the female characters are because of this.
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>>115261596
Naruto had a few good fights early on like Gaara and Rock Lee, and Bleach is bad, first arc was okay, and Kubo moments are entertaing to at least freak out about on /a/. They're still overall really shitty though.
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>>115275916

I think the most fun part about bleach(or the only fun part about it) is the powers Kubo can come up with, that shit with the games from that drunk captains? That shit was 10/10.
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>>115267847
Is this bait? It's the artstyle , within his super cartoony manga, Oda is great, he's not going for that slightly more realistic stuff.
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>>115276298
Kubo can be creative, his writing just got shittier over time. The current Bleach arc feels really generic, but still relatively entertaining. Really though, Kubo just needs to make some sort of fashion related manga.
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>>115268143
ayy lmao.

One Piece only ever gets better. Try reading it past that.
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>>115268016
One Piece (read)
Jojo's
Hunter X Hunter (watch 2011)
FMA: Brotherhood
Eyeshield 21
And if you don't mind the general lack of story go with Air Gear.
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>>115268221
>it isn't as flawless as you closet faggots insist it is
>not knowing that Jojofags shit on Araki for every inconsistencies and asspulls that he made
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>>115267517
this
watching it again
shit is still shit
Edolas can suck my cat dick tho
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I like Fairy Tail.
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>>115261244
chapter 1
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>>115269464
We're reaching the point where there's no need for cloth creativity anymore.
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>>115276607
>One Piece (read)
Still the same shit in anime
>Hiatus x Hiatus (watch 2011)
This shit doesn't have a good adaptation of its first arcs (In this case is better read manga) At least GI and CA were decent
>Gashbell
Manga
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>great world building
>god tier ost
>great cast of characters
>natsu is a very complex character (more like a seinen character)
>good combat system
>no nakama power bullshit like one piece
>good characterisation and character development
>competent writing
>no plotholes
>no retcons
>great art and animation
>good pacing
>good OPs and EDs
>villains have interesting motives
>villains aren't just another bad guy and are humanised
>natsu stands in a moral grey area which is unusual for battle shounen

Fairy Tail is the best battle shounen around. It isn't even debatable
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>>115276607
>Jojo's
HA!
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Erza is literally the best thing about Fairy Tail
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>>115270337
>fedora-tier fashion
M'lady
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>>115283654
>I'm going to let autists ruin everything because I'm insecure about being associated with them
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>>115277912
Well you might as well kill yourself
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>>115268933
gotta agree with you
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>>115268016
FMA
Magi is stillreasonable
Black butler , or is that more seinen?
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>>115268215
>>Gash finished
>saying something is bad because it ended in a desperate attempt to be contratian
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>maybe theres some kind of rational explanation for this
>NOPE. just plot armor
>oh ok

I can't even tell if he's just trying to lampshade himself any more
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I miss the torture porn
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forced jellal bullshit ruined it for me and wasting mystoganz on a JELLAL clone was stupid too.
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>>115267899
Does the text in the picture says, "girls can lick butt"? Cause that would be accurate for this series
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>>115287202
can you honestly not tell the difference between a n l and a k
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>>115281812
Hunter x Hunter > Jojo > One Piece >>> shit >>> Bleach > Fairy Tail > Naruto > Toriko
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>>115287938
I'd argue Naruto is better than Bleach and FT.
But you got it right on with HxH at the top. Truly nothing better.
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>>115287938
Switch Jojo and HxH and I'd agree.
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>>115287938
What's so bad about Toriko?
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>>115287938
Toriko isn't good, but it's god damn ridiculous and dumb that I can't help but like it.
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>>115288017

Naruto might have been better than bleach in back in the day, but now the manga is so full of pointless bullshit I don't even understand how anyone can still read naruto.

Sasuke still being relevant after this time and all the bullshit he pulled is just too much for me.
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>>115261244
>So when did Fairy Tail become Objectively shit?
After Natsu stopped acting like a sane normal individual. Chapter 2.
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>>115268933
>uniform square shaped scales
>wing comes out of nowhere and has no discernable flow or shape, actually pulls eye away from the dragon the way it stretches
>half obscured by shitty roar
>fewer teeth than Natsu has braincells
>giant flat tongue
>entire thing looks stiff

>better
Nigga just shut up, y'all don't know shit about art
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>>115262181
The only reason I picked it up, and I've never been disappointed.
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Lucy is a slut voiced by real life slut Aya Hirano
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>>115281812
>>great world building
There's this ancient magic called Lullaby, no wait, Deliora, no wait, Nirvana, wait, Eclipse, no wait, Face, no wait, Dragons.

And there's some magic guilds and stuff.
>god tier ost
Can't deny that.
>great cast of characters
A great sea of cardboard.
>natsu is a very complex character (more like a seinen character)
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>good combat system
Asspulls out the wazoo at every turn.
>no nakama power bullshit like one piece
AHAHAHAHAHA Name two instances where nakama bullshit has made a difference in One Piece.
>competent writing
It's not nice to tell lies.
>no plotholes
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>no retcons
Nirvana has six legs, right. Lucy can only summon one Celestial Spirit at a time and they have contracts, right.
>great art and animation
Opinions and usually.
>good pacing
Objectively false.
>good OPs and EDs
Mostly true.
>villains have interesting motives
Destroy/rule the world. Every time.
>villains aren't just another bad guy and are humanised
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>natsu stands in a moral grey area which is unusual for battle shounen
I beg your pardon?
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>>115291192
>responding to pasta
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>>115290937
>All those things are true
>Yet left looks even worse

Oda can't draw. He's the most overrated artist jump ever saw.
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>>115261467
same, right after tournament where it begins dragon arc, my remaining interest in this show just suddenly fizzled away

can't quite say the same for one piece, 650 episodes and I still think it's amazing
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>>115261244

It was always a poor men's One Piece.
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>>115287938
I can agree with this. HxH is definitely the best running shonen.
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>>115291331
>Episodes
>Liking OP's anime

How?
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>>115291418
What's the best finished one then?
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>>115291507
A good shonen never ends.


Just kidding, I liked Busou Renkin.
Gash is pretty damn good, too.
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>>115291507
Yu-yu Hakusho, though it did get a bit silly at the end. I liked Shaman King quite a bit, though the ending was pretty controversial. Ruroni Kenshin ended well if you skip Reflections (which you should as it's non-cannon).
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>>115291315
Oda's looks alive and charming. It has character and doesn't feel like it's a half assed attempt at badassery. It isn't stiff like Mashima's nor is it as weak-looking as Mashima's. It looks like a true Western dragon.
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>>115291192
you probably think One Piece is good lmao

and fairy tail is objectively the best battle shounen, as I said it isn't debatable
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>>115291649
It looks neither alive or charming. How can you compare scribbles like that to western dragons? Dragons are intelligent and intimidating; Oda's is fat and looks downright retarded.
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>>115291649
You got me, I lol'd
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>>115291649
>>115291791
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>>115267847
lol oda is so retarded he couldn't even draw the stomach lines straight
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I've read all of it so far, mostly because I have nothing better to do. The Erza fight in the latest chapter was bullshit, stupidest thing I've ever seen. Highest point recently was when Wendy went dragon force and kicked ass without charle getting in the way and telling her to stop using magic.
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oh come on, really?
I'm only at ep 8 but I like it so far. The animation looks a bit QUALITY, but so far it's been fun.
Should I just stop downloading all the episodes?
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>>115261244
>So when did Fairy Tail become Objectively shit
Never.
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>>115292815
It's biggest problem is that it's basically just the same thing over and over. Keep watching until you're bored.
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>>115266295
>Fairy Tail
>edgy at all
I can't even comprehend the world you live in. Do you think disagreements are edgy? I'm not even sure they have those in Fairy Tail.
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>>115292904
oh ok, that's basically a given in the genre, I see.
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>>115292815
If it's entertaining you, feel free to keep going. The first 10 eps are the most QUALITY, so that part gets better. (Manga's still better though, IMO.)
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>>115286334
>Taking FT seriously
>ever
Do you struggle to breath?
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>>115261467
This was as far as I could go. Once this happened I dropped it on the spot.
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>>115293166
I don't recall ever saying I took it seriously.

Or is doing ANYTHING at all related to it besides art dumps, even making fun of the crappy writing, "taking it seriously" to you and thus an excuse to insult people on the internet.
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>>115293509
>I read retarded kid fighting manga.
>I read it for the fights
>I completely missed the fact FT is about fan service, humor, and fun
>I hide behind Wan Piss having almost a thousand chapters. If someone realizes how bad it is I just tell them they aren't to the good part
>I pretend Oda has good art. I just pretend his scribbles are a style and that his disgusting females are intentional even though not even a Ken doll would find them attractive.
>Luffy's mental deficiencies appeal to me since I too am unable to count to 5. Natsu is edgy for only being half retarded instead of full retarded.
Stay classy Wan Piss fans.
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So I stopped reading Fairy Tail after the Laxus arc. I keep hearing that Edolas is this legendarily bad story arc. Can someone tell me why? I'm curious.
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>>115293509
Why? That victory was 10x more justified than beating Kagura, and explained some of the previous powerlevel discrepancies. The armor itself is just a costlier version of Yuka's magic-nullifying abilities.
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>>115294019
Read the VN
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>>115294099
does it have gameplay too?
Or at least decent art?
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>>115293723
When did I say I like OP? Are you insane or just trying to be funny?

>>115294049
>That victory was 10x more justified than beating Kagura
No, she literally pulled magic plot armor out of her ass.
>and explained some of the previous powerlevel discrepancies
After the time skip this armor was supposed to be what he second awakening bullshit was used for. That means before the armor, she was at the same power she was 7 years ago. Despite this, she was leagues above what she was supposed to be at 7 years ago without using the armor. The entire thing is shit.
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>>115294019
Well, let's see...
>Arc starts slow due to the main group being reduced to Natsu and Wendy (plus cats) and depowered at the beginning
>Build up some interesting mysteries/dilemmas that all get explained in one chapter with a small pile of asspulls (a term I don't use lightly)
>Misc dumb writing, e.g. guards not taking Lucy's keys, Erza not looting the hax spear when she had the chance, etc.
>Villains mostly unimpressive
>Cats, cats everywhere
>Mistgun offscreen for most of his own arc, then gone forever
>Lisanna lives
There might be other things I'm forgetting.

>>115294142
I think he was joking. Unless a VN really exists, which could be entertaining.
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>>115261309
It is visually more pleasant actually
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>>115294686
I never really got the style resemblance everyone talks about. They're pretty distinguished from one an another. One piece is normally a lot more stylized and fantastical, especially from the start.
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>>115294658
>Lisanna lives
She was one character I liked. Does she still have a shot with Natsu after how fucking hard they shipped them at first and how in love with her he was? Because up till where I stopped reading he seemed awfully distant considering he was ready to marry her and moaned about her constantly. Is he just getting stuck with Lucy now?
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>>115294352
>No, she literally pulled magic plot armor out of her ass.
Pulling out new armors is Erza's entire mage schtick. She's had TWO prior ultimate armors, both of which got destroyed in their debuts. It was about time she got one that isn't made of jobbernium.

>Despite this, she was leagues above what she was supposed to be at 7 years ago without using the armor.
Or was she? Her combat style is mostly physical-based, with the magic just affecting her armor boosts and certain weapons. Compare Kagura roflstomping Erza's armors with Natsu steamrolling Sting and Rogue.
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>>115295034
She's pretty much letting Natsu and Lucy do their thing. Natsu's barely interacted with her, aside from a recent arc where they got captured and tossed naked in the same prison cell.
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>>115295219
>Pulling out new armors is Erza's entire mage schtick. She's had TWO prior ultimate armors, both of which got destroyed in their debuts. It was about time she got one that isn't made of jobbernium.
I can't believe you're delusional enough to think magic plot armor is ok.

>Or was she?
No she literally was. She took on that 100 best challange that S rank wizards should have had tons of trouble with, and that dude who showed up who was on par with and had 7 fucking years to train while she slept was a fucking ant compared to her.

I can't believe I'm arguing with someone who thinks FT, and Erza of all characters aren't complete bullshit.
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>>115295367
You've got to be fucking kidding me. After all that time he spent crying over her and the big deal they made her return out to be, she just steps aside for Lucy? His relationship with her was the single thing in the series that made him seem just a little human.

Man I'm glad I dropped this shit.
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>>115261244
since chapter 1
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>>115295390
>I can't believe you're delusional enough to think magic plot armor is ok.
1) It costs tons of mana to reproduce an effect used by a fucking minion from Galuna Island.
2) It's useless against demons and dragons, which are the level of enemies FT are tangling with now in the final arcs of the story.
3) It can be physically destroyed.

tl;dr it has actual costs and limits, unlike the sarashi and flamepants.

>She took on that 100 best challange that S rank wizards should have had tons of trouble with
She was exhausted after getting through, sure. The organizers underestimated Wizard Saint level. Plus she could've had Second Origin active for that event.

>and that dude who showed up who was on par with and had 7 fucking years to train while she slept was a fucking ant compared to her.
The hardest part about fighting Bacchus is hitting him, which is a bad match for Erza's physical style. Compared to Erza he has crap toughness, sure.
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>>115273107
>Seal stone handcuffs
>prevents the captive from casting magic

>sea stone
>prevents the DF user from using his abilities

Sasuga, Fairy Tail.
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>>115296561
That's just Mangastream getting cute with the translation. Unless you're implying One Piece invented power-blocking materials.
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>>115268196
>Hunter is about a kid

ahh man, what the fuck is wrong with you

it's about a kid who jumps headfirst into a harsher world than he knew existed

people are dying in gruesome ways right off the bat, in the hunter exam

you're missing out on so much
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Fairy Tale is boring to me because almost every arc begins and ends at their little clubhouse.

There is no adventure involved whatsoever. The plot basically devolves into a villian-of-the-week archetype because almost all the bad shit comes to them by happenstance.

Having your characters actually physically traveling towards a goal is so much more satisfying and lends the author the ability to build upon the world as much as he wants. This is part of the reason One Piece is so popular and fun. This is the reason the first Avatar series is generally loved more by fans as well.
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>>115294658
The final fight against the Giant mech was pretty good though, that is the only postive i can say about it though
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>>115297911
If the protag is still visiting different places for arcs, I don't think coming home in between makes much difference in the ability to worldbuild or tell an engaging story. See: Naruto, Harry Potter, sports manga, etc.
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>>115298680
>Naruto
>Harry Potter

I'd actually respectfully disagree that either of those two series excels at worldbuilding.

Harry Potter inserted a lot of healthy lore but you had little idea with how the rest of the wizarding world worked. Most of the events actually happened at Hogwarts. We got glimpses of other schools and words of other countries, but nothing first hand.

Naruto has no worldbuilding to speak of. The author takes no time to flesh out locations. Any additional factions introduced were kept very black/white in terms of their place in the story.

A large majority of the series carries the same sin that I spoke of with Fairy Tail. Go out, fight a villain, come back to the village.

Early on like during the Zabuza arc, the cast actually traveled somewhere and the location felt interesting even extracted from the plot. After that, Kishimoto stopped caring.
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>>115273107
>>115273248
So where are all the doujins?
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>>115298968
Kumogakure says hi.
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>>115291507
FMA.
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>>115268143
>it's shit after Skypeia
Water7/Enies Lobby, War saga and now Dressrosa... yeah shit
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>>115294686
No it isn't, it looks bland as hell and everyone looks the same.
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>>115300227
Is Sabondy apart of the war saga because that's one of the best OP arcs.
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>>115261244
>So when did Fairy Tail become Objectively shit?
Right after Mashima stopped with RM.
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>>115261244
>Adding "Objectively" randomly for no reason
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>>115300397
Yes. Everything from Sabaody to before timeskip is part of War saga.
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>>115291192
Never liked Oda art but, even so would not put FT and One Piece in the same bag. Regarding battle shonen these days Nanatsu Taizai been more entertaining to me than those two.
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Where is the dragon porn?

Literally only thing that interests me is the dragons.
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The story was generic from the start. The author's previous manga had a better concept and story IMO.
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>>115302704
It was just as generic.
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It's the most derivative shit out there.

I can't even bring myself to hate it. It's just shonen in its most formulaic form.

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