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Daily reminder that Paul von Oberstein did nothing wrong.
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Ya
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>>115258969
The most loyal member of the empire.
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>responsible for death of Kircheis
>responsible for alienating nobles from Rheinhart and starting a civil war
>responsible for nuking a planet loyal to Rheinhart
>responsible for causing Reuenthal to rebel
Just because he sacrificed himself for his kaiser in the end doesn't mean he didn't continuously fuck up ever since Rheinhart decided to employ him.
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>>115259943

>The planet loyal to Reinhard was nuked by the nobles - Oberstein just suppressed information
>by allowing the nobility's brutality to be showcased, his actions saved far more civilian lives than they sacrificed, and ensured the demise of a vicious aristocracy in the Empire
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>>115260049
Oberstein is Kiritsugu?
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He was responsible for me dropping the show.
Fuck Oberstein.
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>>115260049
There was no need to sacrifice that planets since the nobles were incompetent retards in the first place.
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>>115259943
>responsible for death of Kircheis
Completely wrong. All he did was enforce already established protocol. Kircheis was shot because of his own CQC incompetence.

>responsible for alienating nobles from Rheinhart and starting a civil war
Name one civil war he was directly responsible for. You can't, but you can name several that he ended.

>responsible for nuking a planet loyal to Rheinhart
Did you even watch the show? It was Goldenbaum who nuked the nobles, Obie was just laissez faire about it, which government bodies do every day.

>responsible for causing Reuenthal to rebel
How?
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>>115258969
If he reincarnated into Cross Ange universe, I watched that...
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fuck you moot for not allowing webm with sound
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>>115261964
>Completely wrong. All he did was enforce already established protocol. Kircheis was shot because of his own CQC incompetence.
Already established protocol in Reinhard's fleet was that Kircheis as second in command had some unique privileges no one else had. Oberstein acted like a jealous woman and demanded Kircheis relinquishes them. Kirches, not being a faggot caring about dumb shit, accepts it. Then he dies 45 seconds later while fighting an assassin in hand to hand combat, which would have been avoided if he was allowed to have a gun and just shoot the assassin.

Oberstein's actions directly caused Kircheis' death. You can try to justify his actions, but it is undeniable that if Oberstein did not do what he did, Kircheis would not have died.

>Name one civil war he was directly responsible for. You can't, but you can name several that he ended.
One of the reasons why nobles were mad at Reinhard was because he spared Oberstein. The war with them was probably inevitable, but Reinhard saving him certainly did not help.

>Did you even watch the show?
Did you? Reinhard and Oberstein knew nobles were going to nuke the planet. Reinhard wanted the planet saved. Oberstein disobeyed his orders and let it be destroyed. The blood is on his hands as much as it is on the nobles'.

>How?
Constantly scheming against Reuenthal? Employing a crooked politician from the old regime with a grudge against Reuenthal and having him goad Reuenthal? Do you even remember why he rebelled - it was because he was being suspected of being a traitor and planning a coup, which was largely a result of Oberstein's scheming. Oberstein wanted Reuenthal to fall from grace because he thought he was too powerful and a possible threat to the Reich, so he engineered events for him to lose all power.
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>>115258969
Allowing himself to die was wrong. The Empire needs him now more than ever.
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>>115262885
Not that guy but I´ll pitch in.

>Already established protocol in Reinhard's fleet was that Kircheis as second in command had some unique privileges no one else had.
And that privilege sparked tensions between Reinhard and himself to the point that Kircheis considered rebelling. What Oberstein did was instill sound policy with the future in mind. That an assassin managed to bring a bazooka into the chamber where Reindhard was holding his audiences is not Oberstein's fault and a problem that is a lot more serious. If anyone should be blamed it should be Kesler. Also none of the other Admirals sprung into action because they expected Kircheis to be armed so if anything Oberstein can be blamed for poorly announcing that policy.

>One of the reasons why nobles were mad at Reinhard was because he spared Oberstein.
The nobles never took notice of Oberstein or any other prominent military staff for that matter. It's was the military establishment that wanted Oberstein to die for their sins but after Reinhard saved them for that fate and gave them the chance to retire with honors after the Kaiser died. None of them resisted him after that maneuver and the only military officials without familial obligations of note to serve in the rebellion as it was called were Merkatz, Fahrenheit, Streit, Ferner, and that one Captain that kidnapped the young Kaiser. But that was didn't even have anything to do with the dislike the nobles had towards Reinhard it was just about which heir would get the throne and who would dominate the court through that heir.

>Oberstein disobeyed his orders and let it be destroyed.
That's how Oberstein spun the narrative. But it's clearly not how Reinhard or Kircheis for that matter saw it. The random assassin later also disagrees with this version. I, personally, like it though.

>[Oberstein] scheming against Reuenthal?
But all Oberstein ever does allow retarded schemes to take place and then pull the tread to see them fall apart.
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>>115265271
Dude, what? Kircheis never considered rebelling and no other officer was shown acting upset over his privileged position, it was just Oberstein stating it might happen eventually.
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>>115260205
Is this a gurenn lagann reference?
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>>115265862
no its a dangan ronpa reference
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>>115265474
Dude Kircheis was all like: If I can't convince Reinhardo-sama I'll...
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>dog instead of wife
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>>115265474
Reuenthal wasn't happy being a number two, there is no way that he could have been very happy being a number three or lower.
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