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What made Touma into such a moral person?
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Memory loss. Literally the cheapest and most contrived plot device there is.
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>>115255719

He's still the same white knighting faggot even after the memory loss.
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>>115255548
He got stabbed by a superstitious bastard and he doesn't want to turn out like that, is my guess.

But seriously, does anyone actually know?
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Well, he was bullied in his past because his luck kept getting negated.
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>>115255719
I'm not even gonna ask you if you read the novels.

But did you even watched the anime?
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Suffering and misfortune, lots and lots of unimpeded and restless suffering and misfortune.
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Threadly reminder:
-That Misaka stalked and attacked pre-amnesia Touma constantly just because he can block her shitty powers.
-Reminder that Misaka never thanked Touma properly after helping her save her sisters and her sorry suicidal ass
-That Misaka forced Touma to date her while being obnoxious with her shitty hobby
-That Misaka delayed an injured Touma from going to help the Amakusas because she wanted to confirm to herself her own retarded feelings
-That Misaka forced Touma to bring her ass to Hawaii, giving him unnecessary burden
-That Misaka, despite not being his girlfriend and haven't even confessed to him yet, bought rings for the both of them that makes sure that Touma won't cheat
-That Misaka attacked a grievously injured Touma after seeing him with Cendrillon without asking questions because her shit logic believes that "he can take it".
-That Misaka, without even asking questions, again, tried to drag Touma by his belt from a rooftop, nearly getting him killed.
-That Misaka refused to translate Cendrillon's words to Touma because she got jelly, denying Touma a justified thanks from her
-That Misaka shocked an already injured Touma, again, while he was in a midst of an existential crisis while talking about things she knows nothing about

MISAKA A SHIT
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>>115260018
but lolisaka best girl
then Wind sword girl.
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>>115255719
wait, so you're saying his moral grand-standing's a result of losing his memory?
Do you think the author's making a comment on the inherent nature of Man?
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>>115256052
>white knighting
oh come on man, one of the things this guy's best known for is punching women in the face.
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>>115255548
He suffers from generic anime main character syndrome.
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>>115255548
Kant perhaps?
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>>115255548
He's a good guy who wants to help people out.
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So I just read NT3

Why the fuck was the USA fighting Australia in WWIII?
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>>115260018
Stop this shit, why do you have to shit up every Index related thread?
You are the reason why many can only find peace in the archive.
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>>115262921
They saw an opening and tried to purge the earth of it's wildlife
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>>115262921
The deathworld was trying to expand luckily the USA was there to beat it back.
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>>115260018
>-Reminder that Misaka never thanked Touma properly after helping her save her sisters and her sorry suicidal ass
Nonsense, she brought him cookies.
Fine, expensive bourgeoisie cookies that his lowly proletariat ass could never hope to afford.
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>>115255548
Probably the because of his right hand
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I wish he would have broken Mikoto's jaw
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He had his best friend's throat slit by an ubermensch and underwent a radical inner transformat-

Oh wait, nevermind I think he bumped his head and that's what made him a moralfag
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>>115265775
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>>115266928
What do you think we are, ants?
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>>115255548
His dirty fetish.
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>>115255548

Pre amnesia: having the shittiest luck in hte multiverse made him empathize since he's experienced first hand almost all kinds of crap

Post amnesia: hard reset on personality, but doesn't want to bother people so he goes as far as to pretend he doesn't have amnesia to not cause pain in others. Still has the shittiest luck in the multiverse, so he might as well make others happy since he's fucked regardless, and there's no way out.
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>>115255548
As a child touma's imagine breaker negated other people's luck and caused really bad things to happen to everyone around him (Like a whole neighborhood of unlucky people).
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>>115267237

Does it still happen in Academy City? It appears like the bad shit only happens to him there.
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>>115267237
wasn't it more that unlucky shit would happen to him all the time and due to that other people started to blame him too when they were unlucky?
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>>115267296
I would say read the LN but thats a bit cruel in this case. The negation of other people's luck stopped after childhood due to some reason we still don't know. But after that it screwed up his own luck instead.
Thats the reason Touma's dad always buys lucky charms for Touma due to all the weird problems that occur around him.
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>>115255548
>Touma
>moral.
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>>115255548
But he isn't moral at all; he doesn't like what he sees, he knows words alone won't convince or change the situation, so he punches girls in the face.

He is a selfish anarchist and is well aware about it after having that pointed out to him over and over in the last few novels.
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>>115267374

>The negation of other people's luck stopped after childhood due to some reason we still don't know.

Reminds me about what Terra said, was he actually on to something?
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>>115255719
I don't remember why this is a cheap and contrived plot device
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>>115264161
Cookies are best when they're home made.
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>>115255548
>Touma
>moral
He just does what he thinks is right, and yeah that often intersects with our general view of what's moral, but in the end it's just anarchy.

>>115267490
I think it was Aleister? who said that Terra was indeed very close to actually finding out what Touma was if he hadn't tried to figure it out in the Christian reference frame.
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>>115255548
Moral? Your surrounded by powerful, hot, and some voluptuous. He also has the most powerful arm in the world and he punches them with it.
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>>115267528

No, he said that about Fiamma. What Terra sad if I remember correctly is that Imagine Breaker shouldn't be just limited to the right hand and something's making it work wrong.
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>>115267556
I very distinctly remember something about Terra being the one who got the closest to what Imagine Breaker actually is.
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Does it matter what Touma calls it or thinks it is? He just does whatever the fuck he wants because he can. Wouldn't you?
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>>115267588
yeah, bcause of >>115267556
basically.
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>>115267588

If you're talking about the scene with Aleister, he commented that Fiamma was very close to finish the keikaku before even him.

In volume 14 it seemed like Terra had it all figured out already.
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>>115267588
That was Fiamma. Aleister said that if he used the theory of Osiris (Theory of Living) instead of what he was thinking (Theory of Dead) he would of came to the correct conclusion.
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>>115267588
Orellus said that during the Ichihanaran Festival
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>>115267657
Oops that was wrong its Aeon of Horus was the correct one. And Fiamma used Aeon of Osiris.
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>>115267707
Makes a lot more sense considering Osiris is the egyptian god of the afterlife.
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>>115267653
>>115267657
That anon meant Terra, not Fiamma. Ollerus said Terra was the one who come closest to the answer for IB's identity.
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>>115267045
>that sack peeking out a little

my heart, hnnnnngggg
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>>115262921
Because someone has to wipe Abostralia off the face of the Earth.
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>>115255548
His Australian philosophy that "All life's problems can be solved by suckerpunching them square in the jaw"
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>>115262823
And yet he actually tried to protect the worst of them all. Othinus.
Any sane, normal person would've murdered her at the first opportunity, and wouldn't lose a night's sleep over it, but not that Jap faggot.
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>>115268378
Apparently a solid punch to the noggin is enough to stop insane people being evil.

Worked for Accelerator.
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>>115268378
Well what did you expect? Touma got hots for Blond Girls, and their interactions are the best, even Ollerus said that if Touma sees Othinus gets killed, he will change and become edgy, same for Othinus
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>>115268446
Well, he still went evil,
He just realized evil needs some standards.
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>>115268643

He needed his second dose and he got in in Russia, he's fine now.
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>>115268686
Seems to be so, since the third attempted dose in Denmark proved to be highly ineffective.
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>>115267500
It gives you a blank slate as a writer, and means you can basically make things up about the MC without having to justify them through backstory and previous life experiences.

You don't really have to be consistent with their characterisation because you can attribute it to memories coming back or whatever as well.

It also means that, since the MC's traits aren't set yet, you can have them react however you wish to the other characters the MC encounters and whatever situation you put them in.

It's fanfiction tier stuff in the hands of most authors. It allows them to create a 'perfect' character from scratch.
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>>115268936
what do you expect from a machine?
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>>115263081
>>115268271
So what's the actual reason?
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>>115269925
Perhaps relations deteriorated to a point that the US thought it was more economical to invade than jeopardise their facilities there. Who knows?
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>>115270154
Oh so there is actually no canon reason given in the LN? Your theory has some merit to it though.
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>>115255548
He doesn't know who he is any more. He lost his memory and when he wakes up afterwards, all he knows is that he was a person who lost his memory helping someone. So to try and stay the same person he helps people all the time, not realising that his old self was never so helpful at all but because he doesn't want anyone to find out he lost his memory he can't exactly ask what he was like previously.
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>>115262921
I don't remember us being attacked in NT3.
But I don't really remember events specific to NT3 at all so that's probably why.
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>>115268936
But his memories never come back so far have they? So your entire post crying about it makes no sense.



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