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Do I have to watch any of the previous series's to watch ufotable's Unlimited Blade Works?
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>>115249081
fate/zero is recommended or you could go play the vn you fucking secondary trash
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>>115249081
Read the VN
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Honestly, no. However, if you want to fit in, go get the VN. It's free for download so what's there to lose? Fap to the poorly written h-scenes and establish a background so you know what you're in for.
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>>115249081
>Shirou's rhino face
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>>115249081
>[Baka Konbi] Shingetsutan Tsukihime DVD (corrected subs)

Watch that, also Carnival Phantasm to learn a bit more about the setting and maybe Illya Prisma
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>>115249081
i played the VN like 5-6 years ago, but I never watched fate/zero.

Honestly, it's just following another route of the VN, so no, you don't need to watch the other works.

That said, after watching ep 0 and 1, I am fucking stoked. So good. The quality is amazing and the action awesome. Now I remember why FSN was my favorite VN ever. ugotable is really winning me over.
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>>115249855
ppl who fap to f/sn are doing it wrong.
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>>115249081
Fate kaleid liner gives you needed insight, anything else is just icing on the cake.
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>>115249081
Read this: http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/wiki/seriesfaq-fate
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>>115250116
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>>115250116
perhaps you should stay on reddit
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>>115252775
Anything you find wrong with that link? Other than the fact that it's on reddit?
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People will whine and tell you that you should read VN or whatever.

What they fail to tell you is that the VN is a total shit.

Read the entries at Type Moon Wiki, which gives you the actual facts of the story without the bullshit wordiness of a VN. I tried to read the VN, got through 2 parts, then realized I had a life and just read the Heaven's Feel Synopsis. Then I watched Fate/Zero. I wish some VN fag had told me to just read the wiki and save my time.
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>>115249081
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>>115253326
Holy shit, is this pasta? This is fucking hilarious.
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>>115253326
>Read the entries at Type Moon Wiki
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>>115253469

No its my real experience.

The VN is extremely wordy about stuff that does not matter. At all. I think VN authors in general try to pad their wordcounts for some reason. OP can give it a try but if he wants to just know the background, he is better off just reading the wiki to understand the ideas, events, etc. And I'll say this for nearly any very dense series which requires a lot of shit-tier reading.
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>>115253803
>The VN is extremely wordy about stuff that does not matter
I mean that's why it's called a Visual NOVEL.
It's too bad your ADHD can't handle babby's first VN.
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I already read the vn. I'm debating if I should watch Deens fate stay night or not to.
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>>115253940
>if I should watch Deens fate stay night or not to.
Obviously not. is this your first day on /a/?
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This is like asking if you need to read batman comics to watch TDKR
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>>115253913

Novel is no excuse. A novel should be wordy about the stuff that does matter (characters, events) and not wordy about the shit that doesn't matter (breakfast, ""world building"")

If OP was asking if he should read LotR I would say the same thing--go read the wiki instead. LotR suffers the same wordiness problem. Hell, I get through GoT novel discussions via reading the wiki and those books are actually supposedly good.

I read the first two books of the VN and they were just boring and dragged on way too far.
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>>115254223
So basically you're just mad you have no one to blame but yourself about your ADHD?
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>>115254223
You .... y-you didn't read LotR?
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>>115254662
Not him, but I seriously do not see the appeal of these novels.
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>>115249990
>i played the VN like 5-6 years ago, but I never watched fate/zero.
Its worth the watch. Though I heard the adaption dropped the ball on a few things near the end.
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>>115254053
>>115254662

Careful sir, because your comment has nothing to do with anime. 2014 /a/ is policed in a very special way.

But no I don't read any crap that dumps pages and pages and pages of "worldbuilding" on me. Just let the world speak for itself. My mind will fill in the blanks. All VNs seem to suffer wordiness at some level but F/SN has to be the worst.
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>>115253326
>>115253803
>>115254223
If you're seriously too lazy to actually read something, then why bother at all?

People like you don't deserve to live in a literate society.
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>>115253940
If you've already read the entire VN then there's no reason not to, unless you value your time.
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>>115253940
it was pretty good. If you're curious and want to get ahead a bit there's no reason why you can't. That said, you probably won't miss out on a whole lot just watching ufotable's version as it comes out if you don't have the time for that.
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>>115254838
see >>115254381

No one else seems to have a problem with world building but you.
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>>115254838
It's disturbing that people like you exist. How hard is it to enjoy the worldbuilding and exposition?
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>>115249990
>fs/n is my favorite VN ever


Have you never played SnY?
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>>115255035

They do but they are afraid of being called ADHD.

Why do you think so many more people see the anime/movie over the VN/book version? Because that worldbuilding shit is BORING.

Show don't tell.
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>>115254740

Entry level fantasy. It's easy for folks to get into mostly. That's the appeal, really. Plus they have fuckhuge movies based on them, so that attracts a lot of people too out of sheer curiosity.
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>>115255125
>Show don't tell.
It's a fucking novel. There's nothing wrong with it telling you things. Jesus.
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>>115255125
>Show don't tell.
In a fucking novel? Seriously?
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>>115255114
>SnY
But that's backwards, it Yosuga no Sora
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>>115255125
>Why do you think so many more people see the anime/movie over the VN/book version?
Because they are plebs, who are most likely underage.
>Show don't tell.
Nigger, this a literary text device, to improve the reading experience.
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>>115255125
Do you expect the novels you buy in real life to have pop up pictures in them?
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>>115255125
You can't show in a novel. That's not how books work, retard.
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>>115255125
>Show don't tell
But this technique is specifically for literature. Have you never taken a basic English course?
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>>115255167
>Tolkien
>Entry level fantasy

Get the fuck out
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>>115253622
>wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
holy crap there's a lot of lewd pictures with wwww as a filename on google, good lord
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>muh books

Books can have pics
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>>115255301
How the fuck is it not? LoTR is easily one of the most well-known fantasy franchises ever. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being entry-level.
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>>115255268

No you just tell your story and let whatever worldbuilding needs to get done happen indirectly as a result of the actions.

>>115255107

Very hard, because I am not sold on the world yet. Its interesting once you are already sucked into the world and want to know more. Shoving that shit in my face before you even tell the story? Get it out of here. ANd why drone on about what they ate for breakfast? Just tell the story.

This is where the VN fails and where adaptations/the wiki succeeds.
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>>115255167
>LOTR
>Entry level fantasy. It's easy for folks to get into mostly
>This was said in a Fate thread

Oh the fucking irony. LOTR has the deepest and most fleshed out lore of any fantasy universe ever, not to mention the writing is famously archaic and obtuse. I don't think I've ever seen anyone be so wrong before in my life.
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>>115253398
>you can't be a servant because faglord isn't a class

Fucking list it
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>>115253469
>>115253913
Forget it anons, its casual town.

That's what happens when a source material gets anime adaptation. Just roll with it.
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>>115255364
What they are eating for breakfast is a part of the fucking story. You just sound like you have ADHD or something.
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Watch Fate/Zero.
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>>115255364
You do realize without the world building in the VN, there would be no need for a wiki, because there wouldn't be any fucking content in it.
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>>115255408
>one of the best selling novels of all time
>not entry level
How well LOTR is written and how fleshed out the lore is has absolutely nothing to do with being entry-level.
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>>115255463
This thread is in the middle of a heated discussion right now, you little shit. Take your bait and simply wait for your turn to get attention in the next thread.
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>>115255458
Tell me what purpose it serves to know that Rin is good at Chinese dishes. In a proper novel, every single word is necessary and contributes meaning to the overall theme/story.
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>>115255358
>one of the most well-known fantasy franchises ever
Because of the movie. Those millions of people haven't read the books. It's not an easy series to get into.
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>>115255526
Why is Aoko so perfect?
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>>115255358
>LoTR is easily one of the most well-known fantasy franchises ever
True, for the same reason Citizen Kane is well known. Nearly all the tropes that litter high fantasy originated with Tolkien.
>LOTR is entry level
Not true in the slightest. LOTR has the deepest lore and beautiful writing. And actually calling LOTR entry level compared to Fate? Get the fuck out


Roads go ever ever on,
Over rock and under tree,
By caves where never sun has shone,
By streams that never find the sea;
Over snow by winter sown,
And through the merry flowers of June,
Over grass and over stone,
And under mountains in the moon.

Roads go ever ever on,
Under cloud and under star.
Yet feet that wandering have gone
Turn at last to home afar.
Eyes that fire and sword have seen,
And horror in the halls of stone
Look at last on meadows green,
And trees and hills they long have known.

The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way,
Where many paths and errands meet.

The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with weary feet,
Until it joins some larger way,
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.

The Road goes ever on and on
Out from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone.
Let others follow, if they can!
Let them a journey new begin.
But I at last with weary feet
Will turn towards the lighted inn,
My evening-rest and sleep to meet.”
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>>115255526
Arguing with retarded casuals and secondary scums are on the same level as baiting.
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>>115255480

The wiki could still just repeat the story but in a more abbreviated fashion. Worldbuilding can still be done in supplemental fanbooks like "how magic works" or "complete list of everything they eat for breakfast"

But yes, overly complicated worldbuilding is what necessitates a wiki, so only 1 person actually has to read that crap (usually a giant sperg) and document it. Then everyone else can read the wiki instead of having to wade through pages and pages and pages of bs. And if that makes me adhd it makes you the ocd or autism or some crap.
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>>115255571
Sweater tits, of course.
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>>115255556
It adds more depth to her character and show how she interacts with other characters in every day situations. Jesus christ.
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>>115255517
>>115255517
>>one of the best selling novels of all time
>>ergo entry level

So are Grapes of Wrath, and War and Peace, and Anna Karenina. How can one person be so casual?
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>>115255301
>The most popular and best known high fantasy series which laid the foundation upon which the bulk of modern fantasy was built
>Not entry-level
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>>115255573
Now if we could get Fate translated like that
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>>115255573
>LOTR has the deepest lore and beautiful writing.
No relevance to whether or not LOTR is entry level.

>And actually calling LOTR entry level compared to Fate?
Who the fuck said that? Fate is entry level too.

>>115255559
LOTR has had far more readers than your average novel.

>>115255622
Those are all entry-level, yes. Again that has absolutely no bearing on the quality of the work. I have no idea why you think it does.
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>>115253913
>Not realizing the term "visual novel" is to help hide the fact your reading essentially fanfiction tier writing.
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>>115255517
>How well LOTR is written and how fleshed out the lore is has absolutely nothing to do with being entry-level.

Do you know what being popular is called? Being popular. Or are you actually stupid enough to conflate obscurity with quality?

Fate is leagues more entry level than LOTR, I shouldn't even have to say that.

Do you honestly think waifus and endless world reboots can compare to LOTR in any way?
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>>115255752
You're not understanding. Popularity=Entry-level

Being entry-level has nothing to do with quality.
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>>115255752
Entry level has little to do with quality.
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No
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>>115255642
>>The most popular and best known high fantasy series which laid the foundation upon which the bulk of modern fantasy was built
>>Not entry-level

You may be retarded. You've actually managed to convince yourself that entry level means the same thing as influential.

You knows what's actually entry level? Young Adult fantasy with cute girls and unobtrusive MCs, like Fate.
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>>115255870
>unobtrusive MCs
Haha, what?
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>>115255870
Nobody is saying that LOTR isn't great, but it's as entry-level as it gets.
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>>115255679
>Those are all entry-level, yes. Again that has absolutely no bearing on the quality of the work. I have no idea why you think it does.

It never fails to amaze me how people will delude themselves in order to win an argument. Anna Karenina is the furthest thing from entry level literature imaginable.
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>>115255870

I think a good entry level anime is very Western-styled. Cowboy Bebop is entry level.

FSN is for weeaboos.
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>>115255823
>Popularity=Entry-level
Uh, no. Entry-level means something is easy to get into, and is therefore a good "entry" into a genre/medium/whatever. It often correlates with popularity, but they're not the same thing.
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>>115256024
LOTR is easy to get into.
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>>115256005
>FSN is for weeaboos
Yeah, that would explain how all the Servants are legends of British, Irish, and Greek descent, right?
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>>115255823
>Popularity=Entry-level

Absolutely not.

>Entry Level: Appropriate for or accessible to one who is inexperienced

Beowulf is one of the most popular and most studied narratives of all time. It is not suitable for people who are new to literature.

1 “I remember the time that we took mead together,
2 when we made promises to our prince
3 in the beer-hall – he gave us these rings –
4 that we would pay him back for his battle-gear,
5 these helmets and hard swords, if such a need
6 as this ever befell him. For this he chose us from the army
7 for this adventure by his own will,
8 thought us worthy of glory, and gave me these treasures –
9 for he considered us good spear-warriors,
10 proud helmet-wearers, even though our prince,
11 shepherd of his people, intended to perform
12 this act of courage all alone,
13 because he has gained the most glory among men,
14 reckless heroic deeds. Now the day has come
15 that our noble lord has need of the support
16 of good warriors; let us go to it,
17 help our warlord, despite the heat,
18 grim fire-terror. God knows for my part
19 that I would much prefer that the flames should enfold
20 my body alongside my gold-giving lord.
21 It seems wrong to me that we should bear shields
22 back to our land, unless we first might
23 finish off this foe, defend the life
24 of the prince of the Weders. I know full well
25 that he does not deserve to suffer
26 this torment all alone among the Geatish troop,
27 or fall in the struggle; now sword and helmet,
28 byrnie and battle-dress, shall be ours together!”

If you argue this, you're just completely retarded
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>>115256174
And that's why high school students everywhere in the western world read Beowulf? Just because it's not prose doesn't mean it's inaccessible.
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>>115255863
It has everything to do with accessibility. Which LOTR is not.

"The drums rolled louder. Fires leaped up. Great engines crawled across the field; and in the midst was a huge ram, great as a forest-tree a hundred feet in length, swinging on mighty chains. Long had it been forging in the dark smithies of Mordor, and its hideous head, founded of black steel, was shaped in the likeness of a ravening wolf; on it spells of ruin lay. Grond they named it, in memory of the Hammer of the Underworld of old. Great beasts drew it, orcs surrounded it, and behind walked mountain-trolls to wield it.

But about the Gate resistance was still stout, and there the knights of Dol Amroth and the hardiest of the garrison stood at bay. Shot and dart fell thick; siege-towers crashed or blazed suddenly like torches. All before the walls on either side of the Gate the ground was choked with the wreck and with bodies of the slain; yet still driven as by a madness more and more came up.

Grond crawled on. Upon its housing no fire would catch; and though now and again some great beast that hauled it would go mad and spread stamping ruin among orcs innumerable that guarded it, their bodies were cast aside from its path and others took their place.

Grond crawled on. The drums rolled wildly. Over the hills of the slain a hideous shape appeared: a horseman, tall, hooded, cloaked in black. Slowly, trampling the fallen, he rode forth, heeding no longer any dart. He halted and held up a long pale sword. And as he did so a great fear fell on all, defender and foe alike; and the hands of men drooped to their sides, and no bow sang. For a moment all was still.

1/2
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>>115256288

The drums rolled and rattled. With a vast rush Grond was hurled forward by huge hands. It reached the Gate. It swung. A deep boom rumbled through the City like thunder running in the clouds. But the doors of iron and posts of steel withstood the stroke.

Then the Black Captain rose in his stirrups and cried aloud in a dreadful voice, speaking in some forgotten tongue words of power and terror to rend both heart and stone.

Thrice he cried. Thrice the great ram boomed. And suddenly upon the last stroke the Gate of Gondor broke. As if stricken by some blasting spell it burst asunder: there was a flash of searing lightning, and the doors tumbled in riven fragments to the ground.

In rode the Lord of the Nazgul. A great black shape against the fires beyond he loomed up, grown to a vast menace of despair. In rode the Lord of the Nazgul, under the archway that no enemy ever yet had passed, and all fled before his face.

All save one. There waiting, silent and still in the space before the Gate, sat Gandalf upon Shadowfax: Shadowfax who alone among the free horses of the earth endured the terror, unmoving, steadfast as a graven image in Rath Dinen.

'You cannot enter here,' said Gandalf, and the huge shadow halted. 'Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Go back! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your Master. Go!'

The Black Rider flung back his hood, and behold! he had a kingly crown; and yet upon no head visible was it set. The red fires shone between it and the mantled shoulders vast and dark. From a mouth unseen there came a deadly laughter.

'Old fool!" he said. 'Old fool! This is my hour. Do you not know Death when you see it? Die now and curse in vain!' And with that he lifted high his sword and flames ran down the blade.
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I remember when this thread was arguing about the relevance of world-building and exposition.
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>>115256288
>>115256332
How the fuck is LOTR not accessible? A fuckload of people have read it (far more than your average novel); there's nothing about what you quoted that would scare away anybody willing to read.
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>>115256266
You think high school students would actually anything in the high school reading list if they weren't forced to take tests?
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>>115253913
>>115254223
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>>115255364
>>115255480
>>115255590

You have yourselves to blame. Let the illiterate pleb enjoy his flashing images and back away.
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>>115256288
For someone who is supposedly big on literature, you're hilariously terrible at reading comprehension and making coherent, logic argument.
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>>115255956
>popularity
>accessibility
How can one person be so stupid?
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>>115256409
That has nothing to do with the accessibility of Beowulf. It's not hard to read.

>>115256452
>implying there's not a positive correlation
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>>115256132
Nips love the white man. Fate is still weebshit.
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>>115256452
I, too, purchase and read books I have no hope of being able to access.
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>>115256428
This. I would have thought that of all fanbase, type moon fags would have been the most adapt at dealing with secondaries and casuals. Turns out I've been overestimating things.
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>>115256502
I think we have different definitions on weebshit. I would associate weebshit with things that are Nip culture stronk, like Joshiraku or something. Given a little bit of cleaning (changing the "People die when they are killed" lines and whatnot), F/SN would essentially be a universally-appealing story in terms of concept.
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>>115256434
>You: Entry level just means how popular something is
>Me: No, fucktard. Entry level has to do with accessibility, and given numerous examples like say Anna Karenina being extraordinarily popular while also being obtusely written and dealing with complex themes your supposition that popularity is the some total of "entry level" is objectively wrong

You're wrong. Admit it, and move on.
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>>115256621
>Entry level just means how popular something is
I never said that.
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>>115256515
>I, too, purchase and read books I have no hope of being able to access.
So you believe everyone who purchases LOTR, Anna Karenina, and War and Peace are new readers?

Or is your quip just a tacit admission that popularity is not the same thing as being entry level?
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>>115256688
People who purchase LOTR are likely pretty new to fantasy novels.
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>>115249249
No... you watch Fate/Zero AFTER you play the VN... unless you're impatient and want to spoil a lot of stuff expecting FSN/UBW to be a faithful continuation to F/Z
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>>115256644
>I never said that.

Oh, so it was some other idiot?

>>115255358
>How the fuck is it not? LoTR is easily one of the most well-known fantasy franchises ever
>>115255823
>You're not understanding. Popularity=Entry-level
>>115255823
>Being entry-level has nothing to do with quality.
>>115255863
>Entry level has little to do with quality.
>>115255956
>pic
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>>115256726
I've been reading fantasy for years but have never read any Tolkien.
I only read what I got from my father when he died, and he managed to not have any of his works.. Plenty of Zelazny, though..
Should I stop being a prude and start something of his?
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>>115256884
You should. It's pretty good.
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>>115256610
>>115256610
>F/SN would essentially be a universally-appealing story in terms of concept.
narratively perhaps, but not aesthetically.

>Unlimited Blade Works
>the entire concept of servants
>The art style
>Everything about Rin
>Shirou
>The universes

Fate is quintessential anime, and thus weeb.
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>>115256829
Nope, never said that "Entry level just means how popular something is"
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>>115249081
How to Fate/Stay Night
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>>115249855
>fap
>f/sn
Come on, man.
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>>115256726
>People who purchase LOTR are likely pretty new to fantasy novels.
Now you're just grasping for straws, as well as ignoring the other novels I mentioned.

You tried anon

>>115256132
>all the Servants are legends of British, Irish, and Greek descent, right?
>pic related
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>>115256927
You know, we all might take it for granted, but the fact that Sakura is important and even has her own route is a pretty big twist for the uninitiated to have spoiled by a guide chart.
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>>115256901
Is The Hobbit an okay start point? I only ask because I can borrow it readily..
I'll stop asking questions now, promise.
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>>115256914
>Entry Level: Appropriate for or accessible to one who is inexperienced
Then what do you think it has to do with? I provided the definition of "entry level" above so this should be pretty easy for you
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>>115256984
Because the other novels aren't entry-level, LOTR is. Are you going to argue that LOTR is not among one of the first fantasy novels somebody might experience?

>>115256996
There's not really a better place to start.
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>>115255571
>>115255603
Aoko's Sugois are Sugoi
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>>115256996
The recommended order is usually:
The Hobbit -> LotR -> Silmarillion
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>>115256992
They straight-up tell you a few of the Tiger Dojo's that Sakura has a route.
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>>115257074
>Are you going to argue that LOTR is not among one of the first fantasy novels somebody might experience?
More likely than not, they won't be. I first read the Redwall books, and then got into other YA fiction. And given the obtuse and flourished prose of LOTR and all the passages devoted to undeveloped backstory and lineages, it's going to turn most children off.

LOTR has always been 20 something fiction, in case you weren't aware. It first found major popularity in colleges, and the reason things like D&D feature so much Tolkien influence is because LOTR was madly popular among college nerds in the 70s, the same nerds who would go on to write the fantasy novels and the tabletops that formed to the basis for what we have now.

So no, LOTR is not entry level.
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>>115257342
Children don't typically novels these days.

There's a few slightly more accessible series in the same vein Redwall, HP, Eragon, but LOTR is going to be among the first for most people. Sure, most people probably won't read it as a kid, but most people don't read a lot of books as children anyway.
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>>115257484
>but LOTR is going to be among the first for most people
No, anon. It wasn't 30 years ago, and by your own admission it won't be today. And If people are going to start reading fiction today they're going to read the shit like Hunger Games, Ender's Game, or Harry Potter. You know the actual entry level stuff made for mass consumption.
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In my experience LotR is not only a universal entry-level novel, but exit level as well. A huge amount of young people I know today have read the books when they were in high-school because they saw the movies and then quit there.
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>>115257684
But on Facebook and the like, you see LotR right there along side the books you mentioned more often than not, usually replacing Ender's Game, at least until the movie came out.

We get that in you like LotR but the movies, and by extension the books have become mainstream, and thus a gateway for people to breach into the fantasy genre, thus making them entry-level.
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>>115256782

UBW is going to be connected to Zero.
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>>115258060
They actually read them? I've still yet to meet someone that actually read the books in response to seeing the movies. I only know two people that actually read anything at all, though.
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>>115258224
>on Facebook and the like
Oh please, people put up stuff to seem smarter or more intellectual when it comes to crap like that. Social networking sites are a shoddy source of actual involvement. Especially when it comes to shit like slactivism where all you have to do is click Like and little to no actual engagement.
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>>115258362
>I only know two people that actually read anything at all, though.
Similar situation with me. Forget LOTR, a lot of my friends haven't even read Harry Potter.
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>>115249081
Play the VN, watch fate zero.
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>>115253398
Holy God, I love this.
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>>115254223
>why read a book when I can read a wiki about the book and pretend like I read the book.

Holy shit you are an unbelievable faggot.
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>>115255125
>Show don't tell.
That's a literary technique anon. You're supposed to have the people doing things rather than just narrate them doing things.

I can understand that you might not like reading, because learning how to read for pleasure (instead of information) is really an acquired skill that takes a lot of practice, but holy shit you are being a faggot.
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>>115255268
>I don't know how writing works and have probably never read a book in my life if I didn't have my arm twisted.
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>>115255590
>The wiki could still just repeat the story but in a more abbreviated fashion.
>Hurr reading is hard, I don't want to actually experience the story, I just want to pretend that I did cause I read some wiki stuff.

I am ADHD and you make me feel disgusted. I at least got a decent way into tsukihime before I stopped - because my fucking computer died.
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>>115255823
Entry level refers to whether or not something is suitable as a point of entry into a medium, not whether something is popular.

I wouldn't suggest the second book in a trilogy as a point of entry even if it was the most popular book in the trilogy due to its events and exploration of the universe (in such a manner that it explains more about things than the first book), because such a book is a bad point of entry. Thus the second book isn't entry level, while the first book would be entry level.
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>>115255956
Popularity != Accessibility
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Why would anyone spend 100+ hours reading a mediocre fantasy novel, especially if they haven't read Moby Dick, like I know you fuckers haven't? Who are the real secondaries? Aren't you like a guy bragging about eating a hundred hot dogs in one sitting? Is that really something you should be proud of?
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Who here has read Le Morte d'Arthur or even Tennyson's Idylls of the King?

You call each other secondaries when you're the real secondaries.
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OST is great tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJXw0lL5-vA
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Can someone tell whether or not the VN is less "Shounenshity"? I tried to watch Fate/Stay Night, but the goofy fighting turned me off.
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>>115256524
There's only so much you can do
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>>115260490
Just read through the fate route, it really wasn't
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Guys, I think I'm onto something

Could it be that

the red man is actually Shirou's older brother?

Can anyone confirm?
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>>115260812
I can confirm that you are wrong, Archer is Shirou.
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>>115260842
How? At the end of the first episode they are literally at the same place.
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>>115260920
Do you really want to know? I will spoil a major plot point
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>>115260920
It's funny to see how people think they understand what's going on
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>>115260812
He's actually Shirou's pet dog The author is into some kinky roleplay shit.
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>>115260812
Archer is Shirou's dad you fucking retard.
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>>115260996
>>115260999
I knew I could trust you anons. Thank you.
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>>115260920
Secondaries are the lowest of the low.
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I finally got my Win XP Virtualbox machine to play Fuwanovel's F/SN. Is it supposed to advance this slowly? I love the sarcastic young man servant / sorta bitchy little girl master dynamic as much as the next guy, but it's been 2 hours on auto read and nothing has happened.
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>>115260920
Did Shirou poop his pants?
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>>115260920
You realize that Archer isn't a person right? He is a heroic spirit from the future. Heroic spirits aren't bound by time hence the reason you can summon people like Cuchulain
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>>115261175
No, it's just dirty because he fell down before summoning the boy with the sword.
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>>115261175
It's from where he slid across the ground after Lancer kicked him.
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>>115261256
Nice filename faggot
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>>115261263
It wasn't a serious question.
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>>115261335
I-it wasn't a serious answer.
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>>115249855
Free? Really? I assume you mean besides pirating.
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>>115249081
>>[HorribleSubs] Fate Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works - 01v2 [720p].mkv
Did horriblesubs actually take the trouble to fix the subs? Or is it crunchyroll who released the fixed version of the subs?
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>>115249081
People really need to stop asking this question.
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>>115262569
You can actually get the Fate route for free on iOS now.



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