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So how exactly was this pretentious? I often see this word thrown around when people are asked about their opinion on it, but I thought it was all fairly simple.
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>>115244170
people use pretentious to describe something they don't like, everything can be so if you want
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Pretentious does not mean complicated you dumbass.
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It's Type Moon.
It's not in chronological order.
The main character is two-gendered.

It's prime material for people to call "pretentious" because they didn't understand it because they're fucking secondaries.
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>>115244213
Pretty much this. This is also the case in works like Madoka Magica, anything by Yuasa, and Evangelion.

In the end, it doesn't actually mean anything.
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>>115244170
LETHAL MARIJUANA OVERDOSE
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>>115244170
Nasu stated that it was an early work of his that was embarrassing. He originally didn't even plan on publishing it, let along having it adapted into a 7 part movie series.

Main reason why I don't understand people who say KnK is their favorite TM work. If anything it's an interesting look at what Tsukihime started out as but the writing isn't all that great. The movies are only popular because it's ufotable doing what they do best, making adaptations with pretty visuals and nothing else.
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>>115245359
>Main reason why I don't understand people who say KnK is their favorite TM work
Main reason you dislike KnK is because the author said he finds it embarrassing?
You should try analyzing fiction on your own and developing and opinion based on it, instead of parroting whatever Nasu thinks about his works.
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>>115245567
That's a lot of assumptions you're making anon.

I read it and didn't think it was as good as Tsukihime. The writing seemed way more amateur and the author himself confirming it only reinforced that sentiment.
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>>115245655
>more amateur than Tsukihime
Shit
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>>115245701
I wouldn't go that far.
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Personally I like some shows that are considered "pretentious" like Madoka, NGE or Utena, but although I liked it I always found KnK hard to understand. Same with some other more philosophical stuff in Type-Moon works.

I think it's because the philosophy there is so rooted on buddhism and "eastern" ideas like non-dual thinking which I find hard to grasp. Then again, I don't really understand some of the world building in Fate like how UBW is supposed to work (the wiki article about it is ridiculous).

I wouldn't call it pretentious however. For me a work is pretentious when the DEEP shit has nothing to do with the story and is just there to make the author look smart or it's intentionally made as confusing as possible (again, to make the author look smarter than the audience). Well, I do think KnK falls to the latter category occasionally, when it tries too hard with the metaphors ("falling towards the sky").

>>115245359
Most people have never read the light novels. When they talk about KnK they talk about the movies which indeed fixed a lot.
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>>115244170
Morons didn't understand Paradox Spiral. It's that simple.
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I don't read de novels yet (Because i need to wait the spanish traslation), but what i see, is cleary something not that comercial like Fate o Tsukihime, is more introspective and i like that. And ufotable fix a lot of thing, and i'm pretty sure that even the who read the original novel, like who they made KnK movies.

And KnK 5 is my favorite anime of all times, has everything what i like and is perfectly executed and directed.
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>>115244322
except madoka is actually bad
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>>115249211
This

And a show in itself can't be pretentious. It's only pretentious because retarded fans falsely accuse it of being so or retarded fans inject false meaning into it by being pretentious shitlords themselves.
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>>115245359
Are you implying Shit/Stay Night is better than KnK? Because it's not.
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>>115245359
you're fucking retarded. Nasu only said that because the writing itself is elementary. Conceptually it's more ambitious and far better than anything else he's personally written.
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>>115249765
>Conceptually it's more ambitious and far better than anything else he's personally written
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>>115250922
But it's true? You wouldn't even have the TM you see today if it wasn't for KnK. That's why it will always remain elder god tier TM above everything else.



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