Why don't you like shoujo, /a/? It's good.
I'm not a 13 year old Japanese schoolgirl, therefore there's no way I will enjoy shoujo.
It's not aimed at me, and I see it as irredeemable shit.
Okami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji = it's shit
Akatsuki no Yona = it's shit
Donten ni Warau = it's shit
I want Ao Haru Ride back.
>Ao Haru Ride
It was the most generic, shitty, cooki-cutter shoujo imaginable.
>not being a 13 year old Japanese schoolgirl
Literal shit taste
And it was the best shoujo this year.
Maybe shoujo authors should stick with the cookie-cutters.
Fuck off retard.
I like Akuma to Love Song
>best shoujo this year
That's like an award for the best smelling shit.
Will Tonari no Kaibutsu get another season?
I liked that.
Erika is an unlikable piece of shit. At least when male authors write self inserts they aren't total human garbage. Dengeki Daisy was good, but that hasn't been translated for 3 months.
then go watch something specifically aimed at you like shonen shit, no problem buddy
Keep dreaming anon, it might come true one day.
Because harem protags are known for being such good characters
I know, but my point is that I would prefer harem protags to most Shoujo protags.
So do girls actually like being treated like dogs?
If I acted like the guy in Ookami Shoujo would the ladies pine over me?
I prefer shoujo where the focus isn't babby's first romance.
I love shoujo. However, the shoujo anime airing this season are all bad (particularly that one).
I'd like to have a shoujo manga discussion thread, but this thread started with an idiotic OP. Perhaps another day.
Shoujo can be good, but the situations are just way too contrived and similar while also trying to have depth and meaning. Harem doesn't struggle to have the same kind of depth and meaning so it's easier to forgive it.
For example, this protagonist is clumsy, socially unpopular/savvy, and immediately becomes associated with several High Value Men, who she all has needlessly complicated relationships with-- this is the exact same as like every other Shoujo show. We already know where the drama is going to come from and we're also left in the unique position of wondering why she even wants to be friends with those weird girls when she already has a loyal best friend who she could just hang out with anyways.
Another issue of Shoujo is that the "misunderstandings" start to get completely ridiculous. While Harem is cheesy with its misunderstandings, Shoujo makes a huge deal out of extremely trivial misunderstandings. Constantly.
A particular issue with this show is that it misses some of the strengths of the genre. In other shoujo shows relationships start realistically and fast, and the more interesting questions are "when will they have sex" or "will their relationship work"? Harem is bad because it delays ever even getting to the relationship side of thing and makes that the entire question (with the implication that just getting into a relationship means marriage). Shoujo is good because it at least shows that getting into a relationship isn't exactly a sign that everything is going to work out. Or at least, that is what good Shoujo is supposed to bring. So far, this hasn't.
Sabagebu was the best shoujo
Girls like guys who seem unavailable. Not being fat and/or awkward helps too.
>Akatsuki no Yona = it's shit
Shit taste. It's going to be shoujo of the year.
What's you're favorite shoujo of all time?
Second half of the Versailles anime.
If you look like a male model and also stand up for her and protect her, of course. You don't even have to look that good, but just treating her like shit with no redeemable qualities likely won't cut it.
>Ao Haru Moe
Nope. Ookami Shoujo is superior in every way, also I don't think Donten ni Warau is Shoujo.
the last shoujo I liked was probly Ouran, Josei is where it's at.
It was mediocre.
You prefer babby's first rape?
It is, also Orenchi.
There was that one about memory loss. I forgot.
Yes: Princess Army is my favourite shoujo.
Who says I don't like Shoujo? Aside fro mthe fact that its a demographic and not a genre, there's plenty of good ones. And Junichi Sato is my favorite anime director.
Maybe if Japanese wasn't such a shit tier contextual language they wouldn't have so many things go wrong.
i fucking wish.
I love shoujo and I am a big fan of Wolf Girl and Black Prince, been looking forward to this anime for a long time. AOTY.
Top 10 Shoujo looks something like:
2) Ookami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji
3) Fruits Basket
4) Kamisama Hajimemmashita
6) Ludwig Kakumei
10) Suki tte Ii na yo.
TADA BANRI ?
People cannot handle entertainment made by females for females. They pretend to hate it to look cool because women/girls are always uncool. Chick flicks? Bad (though I guess most of those are made by men anyway). Chick lit/romance novels? Bad. Fanfics? Bad. Shoujo manga? Bad.
This comes from misogynists and feminists alike btw. Misogynists because they hate women, and feminists because they think femininity is bad or some shit and think women should only read Saiunkoku Monogatari and Utena forever.
I watched all both seasons of Kimi ni Todoke earlier today and my god was it shit
it just goes to show how retarded MAL ratings are because I thought 8.3 rating meant it wouldn't suck but the entire 35 episode plot was driven by this misunderstanding trope, and in the end they didn't even kiss or anything
so. fucking. annoying.
Yeah but Chizu, and that other girl, are great.
agreed. KK was pretty god tier.
You know those people who whine about how the guys in shoujo are "too abusive" for showing romantic initiative??
They are the ones who are rating Kimi ni Todoke so highly. The male in KnT is bland as unbuttered toast and may as well not exist. The whole show may as well not exist.
They are also the ones who are rating Ookami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji so low.
Probably the best show that /a/ never watched.
I still watch some from time to time, but they don't make the fantasy/adventure shoujo I grew up on nearly as much anymore. Too many normal schoolgirls having normal relationships these days.
Shoujo is at its best when it does shit other genres do not
Which is having actual relationships that change and grow.
Unfortunately after you read enough Shoujo you learn why other genres don't ever go past the very beginning of relationships. Because the vast majority of writers suck ass at making an actual couple interesting without injecting copious amounts of retarded drama for no reason.
I've been watching nothing but shoujo lately, my last 3 were:
Itazura na Kiss - 10/10
Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou - 10/10
Sukitte Ii na yo. - 9/10
Ao Haru Ride - 9/10
I dont normally rate so high but shoujo is just that good
Best shoujo coming through
main girl was kinda bland though
im fine with 1 season tbh
CardCaptor Sakura > Princess Tutu > Kimi ni Todoke = Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon > Kodomo no Omocha > Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou (anime form)
Is shoujo good for anything other than girls getting bullied?
A lot of the MCs get their cherries popped.
Fushigi Yuugi, with Fruits Basket a close second.
This girl has good taste.
Not really. More than in shounen sure. But not a super ton
but I'm a guy. I've even fapped to Miaka. And Yui.
Thomas no Shinzou
Then this guy has good taste. Fushigi Yuugi is the best combo of romance and adventure and I dare someone to say otherwise (so I can watch whatever it is they say is better).
How does the cardcaptor anime hold up to the manga?
I didn't bother with that because I thought it was a harem, was I mistaken?
I like shoujo adventure manga (e.g. Basara, Anatolia Story) so I guess I'll give it a try.
people posting old shit and manga need to gtfo, stop making me waste my time googling garbage
Literally the worst Shoujo series I ever saw. Its like a condensed version of Naruto. With all the best characters dying halfway through and turning into a big fight over one guy.
shojo adventure is normally a pain in the ass
I dont want to deal with 'forbidden love' or 'lovers on the run' or 'lovers separated by evil'... bla bla bla
call me a pleb but Id rather stick to my high school romance shojo kthx
Its a bit of a harem. She meets lots of hot guys, 3 of which get significant crushes on her (but she stays with one through the whole series). Its also an adventure.
Is Inu x Boku SS considered shoujo, or is that seinen?
If not that, Tonari ni Kaibutsu for me.
By all the best characters you mean Nuriko? And no it turns into a fight for Miaka (aka our) world. Be quiet.
Has a bit of reverse harem early on but she picks Tamahome relatively early - want to say about a third of the way through. Others still crush on her from time to time but it's unrequited.
> relationships that change and grow.
Itazura na Kiss and Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou are exactly that. They evolve over a long period of time like an amazing, heartwarming journey as they get older
They do have flaws though, first 10 episodes of Itazura na Kiss are pretty painful but the rest are amazing. Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou has really crappy animation but it doesnt really deduct from the great story at all
She picks Tamaome nearly right away, it just takes a short while for him to reciprocate.
Itazura na Kiss is hilarious in its beginning I need to watch the rest. Please tell me they do not defang that tsundere.
Its shounen actually. Runs in Gangan Joker.
It works because it's interpreted as extreme confidence. If you can do it without looking like you're trying.
Just read the manga
But I do like it. it helps me to know everywhere I went wrong in my relationships with women.
My Little Monster
Ao Haru Ride
Kimi Ni Todoke
I like to fuck shoujo girls
Will we ever get another shoujo MC as based as Mafuyu?
Forget about shoujo,I want more Josei.
The last good josei to get an anime was Chihayafuru.
"I firmly believe that in order to really fully appreciate just how special Kimi ni Todake is, you have to already be a veteran of at least a dozen or more of its shoujo peers. There are none of the usual tired clichés. Sawako isn’t the plain and perky heroine determined to get a man to fall for her who ignores her or treats her horribly. She isn’t out for revenge nor is she being pursued by a harem of bishounens with a desperate struggle to choose between them. Kazehaya isn’t a dick, for lack of a better term. He’s a guy who will be loved by viewers not because he’s hot, but because he’s just a really nice guy any girl would want to fall in love with and guys would want as a friend."
K anon you can have shit taste
but isn't he boring?
marry a beta, leech off his money, and fuck an alpha behind his back. That's the life
Is Strawberry Panic shoujo?
I haven't broken my beta's heart yet but the temptation will always be there.
He deserves it for being a beta piece of shit anyway.
But nice people are nice.
>takes off glasses
>puts on makeup first time
>becomes stunningly gorgeous
>guy is very good looking
>slight bad side
>may treat her like dirt
>she loves him anyway
Shut up, beta.
it's yuri, so i guess not
This is why men hate you.
I can't believe I actually read all that.
women have annoying instincts, thus the popularity of dog-trainer man. but so do men. we just have to think before we act.
Shoujo feels "soft".
I like it.
is your brain that atrophied?
No, I was just amazed that after starting the post thinking to myself
>oh god this is a wall of text i hella ain't readin all that
that I actually kept going after the first few words and ended up reading all of it.
>Ao Haru Ride
Nope, the MCs are worse than these ones, although I give the supporting casts to Ao Haru Ride.
I like shoujo like Strike Witches, K-on, and Girls und Pantser.
K-on is seinen?
It's shoujo. What's wrong with your eyes?
They all are.
Would inari konkon be considered shoujo?
Girl friendships, girl power, shopping, cake, no boys allowed...K-on is shoujo. Japanese boys love girly shows.
Nice try faggot. Some guy in Nebraska who tags shit doesn't mean crap.
It features in a seinen magazine retard.
It's published in a seinen magazine, so technically no.
Which one? Besides, even IF it did, don't mean shit. There has been shoujo stories printed in shounen magazines for decades.
I do and am actually quite interested in this show. My biggest issue with shoujo is they always follow the same 12 episode format of cock-teasing romance for 9 episodes, include a misunderstanding in or at the end of ep 10, clarity in ep 11, and then a warm and fuzzy ep 12 that usually ends with them either going out or reaffirming the status quo on an improved note.
All I want is a series about relationship drama involving a couple thats actually an item. I don't get why Japan is so autistic about having romance only at the end of a series and implied to last forever, shit happens.
Glad you think treating women like shit will get you women.
>even IF it did, don't mean shit.
This is literally how it gets decided if its seinen or otherwise.
>I don't get why Japan is so autistic about having romance only at the end of a series and implied to last forever
I am a woman and I treat betas as they should be treated, like shit. You're annoying and you deserve to be ntrd.
>implying disney princess movies are a positive example of anything ever
Except for Mulan, Mulan is rad as shit. Fuck that second movie though.
The worst thing about recent high school Shoujo is that they've got infected of the "delay relationship progress" virus that supposed to be exclusive to Shounen romances. Shoujo romances supposed to be how the romance grow and how it affected themselves/others in the process. If I wanted a RomCom with no progress there are a tonne of Shounen romances that I can pick.
And women still don't understand why only assholes put up with them.
>implying he was using disney as a positive example
>why only assholes put up with them
>implying betas aren't groveling at women's feet right now handing out free money in hope of pussy they'll never get
I did. And it leaves us back with the same problem of some guy in Nebraska or Ohio claiming it's a seinen magazine. Japan makes no such claims about it.
I seem to have a different definition for betas than you have. Care to give one? I seem to misunderstand.
You're a faggot.
Why is this season so shit ?
Hop over to /r9k/.
Thats why you abuse the system, reverse psychology works wonders and there two types of women; the ones that are to a flexible available, and then all the other ones. You know that song "if you wanna be happy for the rest of your life never make a pretty woman your wife"? Dont take it too literal but if you want a good girl you go for the some what put together spergy one that lacks relationship experience and is less likely to be a hoe or become one.
Basically if theres anything you can gather from the phrase 3DPD its that society coddles women and teaches them that as long as they tease a possibility of you-know-what they can manipulate almost anyone. The best way to entirely circumvent this impossibly negative scenario is to avoid giving off hints you're interest in them. If you do this then you'll soon be able to better pick up on each individual's intentions.
Now thats a shithole if i ever saw one.
TFW NO GIRLFRIEND fills up that board.
I'm pretty good at seeing trough the intentions of people approaching me.Ignoring teasing from women seems to weed out the trash.
No, anon. Petplay doesn't exist and nobody has a fetish.
Please kill yourself.
Yes, your mother is a real bitch
Ookami Shoujo is fucking gold.
Because most shoujo doesn't cater to my fetish.
I do, but Okami shoujo is shit. Still watching it though.
Don't show that you're interested in them, be condescending towards women, don't get embarrassed about anything that they say.
It really works wonders.
>all those landwhale ITT who actually watch shoujoshit
Get the fuck out of /a/.
Stop being such a autist anon.
Shoujo have taught me that women secretly love being treated like trash
I must be a lonely housewife to watch Josei too
Isn't that common sense though?
I don't understand all the betas who still put pussy on the pedestal and act like women deserve respect for simply having a warm hole which you can fuck.
It's a weird form of masochism.
Only watching it for the abuse. Otherwise it's quite droppable.
I tend to watch at least one shoujo each season, I know it's terrible but it is a nice change of pace from
>mc falls on tits
this one was pretty good though
Worst boy won. Sales were mediocre and Brains Base doesnt do S2.
Dat number 2. Dear lord. Good taste for the rest though.
Itazura na Kiss, Utena, Fruits Basket, Hana Kimi, Ouran, and Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun.
Okami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji = I like it
Akatsuki no Yona = I love it
Donten ni Warau = it's shit
I love shoujo, but not ones where you just stare at the hot boys with no female main character.
It written for girls. I'm not a girl.
Oddly enough this is true. It's surprising how many women like books like 50 Shades of Grey or similar. If you have the right charm and presence acting domineering is not at all a negative. Ofcourse there are girls that genuinely like people that are nice 100% of the time, but if you're continuously spinless (i.e. beta) it'll be quite hard to hold on to a girl.
I bet you faggots all post in the it's time thread as well.
Fucking landwhales and gays on my /a/.
Nah, no girls in the gay thread.
Being a tiny little girl doesn't mean we post in the man circlejerk thread.
Found Itazura na Kiss utter garbage when I watched it as it airred. Kind of surprised to see it listed among a lot of titles I liked.
It's fine though. Many people just have different outlook on what kind of personalities they aim for in a potential partner.
It just so happens some of us prefer women that are intelligent, mild mannered(nice) and/or calm and collected.
Many women are attracted to the dominant type personalities that are bordering jerkhood since much of humanities' past, aggressive alpha male behaviors got you to pass your genes.
But in the world today where peace and cooperation is a much better way to support your offspring, I genuinely feel that being with a nice person that thinks and cares is the best route for the human race.
I don't even care if most women prefer to be with so called "alphas". All I need is a fine woman that can share her life with and mine's in turn.
Quality over quantity. Be selective, be genuine and love truly.
Only a few Shoujos have truly captured true love in this sense. This is why I will forever hold in regard Kimi no Todoke as one of the Shoujos that is utmost and truly lovely.
OTPs everywhere yoh.
Do you even have female friends.
I'm usually fine with shoujo when it's not a pure school setting romance. For those, I generally enjoy them for the first 3 - 5 episodes, it feels like things are actually happening, then get pissed off at the relationships and characters moving in circles around the status quo for most of the rest of the show.
I wouldn't touch Ookami Shoujo, but I'm hoping Yona turns out good.
Fucking this. If all shoujo was like that, I would watch shoujo.
>Do you even have friends.
>But in the world today where peace and cooperation is a much better way to support your offspring
I liked Kare Kano but all the DARKNESS in the second half was pretty cringeworthy. Ending was good though.
Fucking shitposter on my /a/ need to leave.
No, really. Since when through out history has there been a lesser need for aggression than today? Less wars than today? More voluntary trade between individuals than today?
Angel Sanctuary and most of older CLAMP's works such as X count as shoujo, I guess. Those I like. Never cared for the titles mentioned itt, romance without smut is boring shit.
>lesser need for aggression
Nigger you need aggression nowadays more than ever if you don't want to get swallowed. Not thug nigger aggression (unless you're a thug nigger) but being nice won't get you on top of the social ladder, and life at the bottom is shit.
Here's the deal, you shut up and obey me and I might let you lick my pussy. Otherwise, scram. What say you?
Fuck off fatty.
Get out you disgusting whale.
No. Piss off, beta.
Why can there never be a nice shoujo thread without shitposters?
You don't need to be at the very top of a "social" ladder to be moderately successful.
Avoidance of bad neighborhoods is easy enough by being moderately successful and buying a house in a good neighborhood; just research first.
Heck many a times being too high profile and being consumed by your job/ making money results in dysfunctional offsprings that are less likely to succeed in life.
Hypothetically speaking if you are being serious with your statement...
Well that's not a very nice way of presenting yourself now is it? Are you treating yourself as just a piece of tits and ass? You will be treated as such by many people if you feel the need to parade your vagina like that, like some kind of meal ticket.
That is sad and not at all the type of woman I would want.
Well, a show with a bunch of little innocent girls is either kodomo-muke (aimed at children) or seinen.
Rules of thumb:
- If it's aired at night, it's seinen.
- If it's entirely centered on moe, it's most probably seinen.
- If it has characters going through "meaningful" struggles with lessons of friendship and love, it's kodomo-muke.
Because shoujo is shit and deserves to get shat on.
Make me you fucking hambeast.
agreed. Watase isn't great but Fushigi Yuugi was absolute shit tier
/a/, who is best boy?
And that's basically all of shoujo, folks.
Shoujo is more predictable and boring than harems.
If watching fiction that has very sexualized girls treat guys like shit makes you think that guys basically are creatures that you can think of and treat like shit in return for sex, then you're horribly confused.
Why are presuming I'd be satisfied with moderately successful?
You're sad and not the type of man I want. Sod off, you're dismissed.
And they say men objectify women.
The way women think of men is ever more humiliating.
No really /r9k/ is all one has to say tear down your shit.
Do you suffer from brain damage?
You. I like the way you think. I hope you find a very decent and honest lover.
Go shitpost more about tfw no gf.
/r9k/ is the very definition of blind leading the blind.
What, is it too difficult to formulate an actual response?
>MC ends up with the first introduced harem member
>MC ends up with everyone, in different arcs
>MC friendzones everyone
Stop being such a beta, holy shit.
You're supposed to grow out of this beta romanticism crap after you turn 16, and learn that women are meant for fucking.
Nice projection m8.
The genre overall is fine but some of them are so fucking boring compared to others.
Like Ao Haru ride was fucking garbage but Ookami is much much better.
>I'm too stupid to get a basic statement, better pretend not to be retarded
Get a load of this hambeast thinking that any sort of successful man would want to be near her.
Gladly. We are not compatible at all it seems. No worries, a foreboding warning to you though; Try not to marry a guy that might turn into an alcoholic wreck that does not care for his children. Either that or I will be extremely sympathetic to a nice top class person that had the misfortune of marrying you (that is assuming you don't realize/change).
Fuck off Lelouch
More than any woman would want to be near you apparently.
There are shit shonen, josei, and senien but there are still some good ones wether you like it or not. Not like you will listen since you're shitposting.
Why do you think you have any chance of getting someone even moderately successful, you fucking fatty?
Yup, meanwhile, all shoujo is shit.
Fuck off back to tumblr already you hambeast.
Here's better advice: Don't marry at all.
Ao Haru Ride was average. Ookami Shoujo is so bad its good. The abuse is great.
Because I do. And you being this mad makes me even happier. I hope you'll get a ruined liver from this.
>women deserve respect
I do truly believe this. I want to make girls happy. It's just that I also understand that the best way to do this is to make yourself come off as a better, more confident person then they are and subtly imply that if you were to use them for your own purposes, it would be ok. Girls go nuts for this and I love that.
Even Princess Tutu and Rose of Versailles?
Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun, Orange, CCS and some 70's stuff are pretty nice. Too bad most things in the genre nowadays devolve into the same boring shit after some chapters.
Thanks for proving my point anon.
No, not really.
Unless someone makes a shoujo show about an alpha girl teasing her innocent manfriend.
>being this deluded
Keep going please.
Sounds like a defeatist attitude man. There are some truly genuine women out there. Don't lose hope but also be wise; study up and learn yourself as well as learn others. This way you will be able to find others like you.
Stay strong friend.
Yours too brother.
Thanks for proving that you have shit taste in anime and are at least 30kg overweight.
Holy shit, stop posting already you beta faggot.
Are you implying that anon watches good anime? Rose of Versallies is 2old4him. Probably wouldnt even pick up Princess Tutu based on the name and genre alone.
Actual females spotted.
That was some damned awful shit.
This thread is full of fat femwhores anyway, no one else watches shoujoshit.
>you have shit taste in anime and are at least 30kg overweight.
Both wrong but holy shit your taste is terrible. Youre still in your generic ecchi harem phase most likely. I hope you get some good taste and soon.
Ookami Shoujo is more romantic comedy anyway, there's nothing serious drama about it like other shoujo. That's why it's so popular and Kyoya is a kuudere done right making him one of the popular MCs.
Anyway all this dog fetish ended the moment they become a true couple. It's kinda funny many people tagged this as a BDSM anime when it's really not.
>get faced with the truth
>start making unrelated ecchi harem accusations
You're embarassing yourself tumblrite.
I thought I'm the only one who hated Nana. I kind of like Paradise Kiss, but even then the nice guy in the series ends up being the leftover choice to the girl.
Why do all shoujo threads turn to shit after a while?
>accusing me of being from tumblr and being a landwhale
>has shit taste
You accused me dumb shit and you have shit taste and enjoy shit posting so I assume it is safe to say you watch ecchi harems.
Because shoujo is shit, and femanons who watch shoujo are extremely shitty human beings with 4/10 looks and awful personalities.
Most of them are also fatties, and they get incredibly buttmad whenever someone points that out.
Shoujo threads are used solely for containing femwhores so that they don't spill out onto actually good threads where good anime is discussed.
Shit posters and anons bringing 3D into everything.
>extremely shitty human beings with 4/10 looks and awful personalities
>Most of them are also fatties
So just like the rest of /a/?
Why are mods letting this shitposters going on?
>B-but I'm sure others are equally as shitty as me!
This is why we contain you in shoujo and Free! threads.
Please stay there.
All it took was a few shitposters like you to derail it.
Shows how dumb femanons are.
Well, this is only to be expected considering that you lot actually watch shoujo.
>No one noted Marimite so far.
>Implying /a/ is now full of new anime watchers.
Maybe because Marimite is complete shit?
Shows how retarded shitposters who falsely believe they are the /a/ police are.
>But in the world today where peace and cooperation is a much better way to support your offspring, I genuinely feel that being with a nice person that thinks and cares is the best route for the human race.
I believe this is true.
However, I think the American society is destroyed beyond repair on this department. Girls are taught to think with their pussy and have no morality or sense of responsibility. And guys are forced into this game and are shamed for not playing by its warped rules.
It's like (some) men are the only ones left who still have a sense of fidelity. And unfortunately their fidelity always gets misinterpreted, misportrayed and blatantly shat on.
Just how do you find an honest woman these days?
But okami is bad.
Shut the fuck up faggot, it's always been like this.
Your perfect waifu doesn't exist in 3D, just give up and stop deluding yourself that somewhere out there is a perfect woman who won't cheat on you and will even watch your faggy cartoons with you.
I like it. None of the characters are boring, they're all very well rounded.
You're retarded then.
Calm your tits, anon. Some people like different things.
No, it's definitely top tier yuri,
Sei is best lesbian.
My sides. Go ahead, marry if you want to be fucked financially.
Only betas want to get married, so it's okay is they suffer.
Not here. Shit taste is not allowed on /a/. You are not allowed an opinion on shit.
Shitting on Ookami means your taste is shit, though.
Time for >>>/reddit/anime
Nice try landwhale.
Back to tumblr with you, that's where you and your shit taste belong.
>marry if you want to be fucked financially
I don't understand this. How fucked up are marriages in murrica for this shit to happen?
That's why Robin Williams killed himself.
You ought to know that tumblrites don't like being submissive, it's your playground bud.
>tumblrites don't like being submissive
Oh yes they do, tumblrites love their shoujo.
Time for you to fuck off back home.
John Cleese pays over a million pounds a year in alimony. It's why he can't retire.
I wasn't aware of that, you see the only interaction I have with tumblrites is the time they bleed onto /a/ to hate on submissive girls and dominant guys. Kinda' like you right now.
Regardless, why are you even here if you hate Shoujo? Can't you just fuck off back to your homo threads or someshit?
People must make it known they dislike something. Only the "correct" taste on /a/ is allowed. Welcome to 2014.
Someone needs to put you in your place and make sure that femwhores don't leave their containment threads.
No, I mean. Why even sign a prenuptial agreement if you might end up financially broken after a divorce? Are you forced by law to sign one or are amerifats just dumb?
People that whine about tumblr/reddit/v/whateverthefuckisboogeymanatthemoment in every thread are almost bad as the thing they bang on about.
We're not talking about tumblr or reddit.
Local /a/ femanons are worse than all of those things combined.
How about anons who browse all three of those combined?
I'm fairly certain it wasn't this aggressive in the past, /a/ used to be relatively welcoming compared to /jp/.
I prefer the femanons to little shits like you.
Usually they work. Sometimes they don't. The sometimes end up on the news, like people paying child support for kids that aren't even theirs.
As long as they're not female, then it's okay.
>I don't even care if most women prefer to be with so called "alphas"
They don't really, it's just very attractive for short term sex. When actually confronted with being in a harem most women don't want it.
Oh, cool. Can I post my tumblr blog, then? I'm a guy btw
I don't know what the fuck happened to this thread, nor do I want to know. I absolutely love shoujo, it's one of the most entertaining genres out there to me personally.
I don't enjoy it because it is an accurate representation of relationships, applicable in any way to reality. I enjoy it because it's complete bullshit. It's a fantasy. It's idiotic romances centered upon asinine premises. It's shallow characters and attraction based on the most arbitrary feelings and events.
It's stupid, and it's fun. Feeling insecure about liking it means that you're taking it too seriously. And I'll be damned if I'm gonna let the opinions of some random prevent me from enjoying my shameless Japanese hand-holding.
Unless they got to be head wife.
It wasn't. Not to say it wasn't fairly easy to derail precaptcha or by one of the more notorious tripfags posting, but still.
Yeah man, please do! Can I get a link to your blog?
Alpha fucks, beta bucks, it's always been like this.
It's the man's responsibility to not end up being the providing beta.
I guess it makes sense to get the most virile sperm and then dupe a nice guy into raising it for you. Nature is right.
Shoujo is actually the most realistic portrayal of 3D women's desires and thought process out of all other anime genres.
That's why it's so shit.
isn't just the same kind of otaku pandering stuff we see in harems but targeted toward girls?
Obviously, women are biologically hard-wired to behave in this way, so there's no need to go full /r9k/ and get mad at them for it.
It's better to learn how to use it to your own advantage, or you can just ignore 3D entirely.
Whatever you do, just don't end up being the beta provider who's nice towards his girlfriend/wife.
Yes, and it manages to be even worse.
Yes. Yes, it is.
Both involve a hottie falling in love with a plain person but I think similarities end there, in terms of tone, characters, relationship development, etc.
I hate male-targeted harems but I love shoujo.
Why can't I be nice towards my girlfriend?
She'll cheat on you.
Less real life relationshit
More Shoujo and Josei
That's because you're female and you have shit taste by default.
Women where I live don't seem to be as slutty as american women, though. They're actually pretty boring.
If I were your gf and you were nice to me I'd cheat on you.
That's because the men in harems are usually spineless little faggots. Whereas the men in shoujo are usually decent while the girls turn into obnoxious sluts. Harems in general piss me off, indecisive little shits. Just pick one you fuck.
>But in the world today where peace and cooperation is a much better way to support your offspring, I genuinely feel that being with a nice person that thinks and cares is the best route for the human race.
Not even to support your offspring, but just to have an enjoyable life together that's based on honesty. I love the person I chose but I admit I was more primitively attracted to people who I knew were terrible.
I prefer Josei.
That's what you think.
They just don't show you their slutty side, since you're one of the potential candidates for becoming their beta provider once the first wrinkles start to appear or they become single mothers.
You're really naive anon.
So you're ntring him in your mind. Whore.
No. Harems are worst.
At least in shoujos the losing dudes are allowed to move on. They aren't supposed to turn into Xmas cakes that must love the shitty MC forever.
>Harems are worst.
Mr Perfect with ONE SUPER FLAW (which barely counts as one) is just as annoying as spineless harem MCs
OK first of all, this is abusive comment, don't be a bully. Men and women have different taste but one is not better than the other. This misogyny is taking me back to 2008 /a/ I thought it was bannable now.
Harems involve multiple hotties, all of which are good in their own way. Shoujo involves usually about one hottie and maybe a few "betas" that make the hottie look good. Its rare that shoujo is ambiguous about what guy is the true blue male lead, even if the female lead dates a secondary guy the male lead is still on her heart/mind.
>since you're one of the potential candidates
I'm no one's potential candidate for anything, m8. People barely realize I exist, even though they usually treat me nicely.
No please for the love of god, not the m word. Do you know what you've done?
>Do you know what you've done?
Josei and shoujo are pretty much the same in content, josei is just rarer to find in English.
"Annoying" is relative. If mr perfect annoys you then its because you are jealous.
Saus the haremfag who think he's watching quality shows.
Shoujos are least overdone in anime form, that alone make them superior to repetitive harems.
Also shoujo girls at least are cute while harem protags are complete and utter turds that deserve no one love.
Yeah, this is b8. Thought you were being genuine in your earlier comments.
This is the shoujo target audience /a/.
Fuck off back to tumblr you whore.
I miss athens
>Also shoujo girls at least are cute
Shoujo female leads don't do anything apart from standing around waiting to get fucked by faggy bishies and overthinking stuff.
They're even more useless than harem MCs.
Stop replying to yourself just because no one ate your bait.
Women are allowed to wait around, though. Women and men are not the same.
>liking the most horrible shoujo anime ever created instead of:
>kaicho wa maid sama
>kimi no todoke
bad taste faggot time to drink bleach
>kaicho wa maid sama
They don't need to do anything else other than being there and look pretty.
Unlike male characters, females ones can be worth just by their looks.
How incredibly boring.
fuck off whore and go back to watching shit stuff like 45 shades of gray and twilight/
I never got to like that one. Isn't the main MC the "too perfect" type?
I only made about 1-2 earlier comments. And its not bait, but I do call out bullying language for what it is. I don't care if it is 4chan. And you are crazy if you think tumblr has less bullies they just bully under a different banner.
I don't mind 4chan misogyny most of the time but this was supposed to be a shoujo thread and I honestly did think /a/ had changed on this front. Maybe its a morning /a/ vs. evening /a/ thing.
Different taste =/= "shitty" taste. It just means different. There are lots of diffrent manga for lots of different taste.
Doesn't annoy me, but unlike most shojos I like the female lead.
Semen containers are allowed to be boring, anon.
Suck my fucking cock you dumb slut.
>but I do call out bullying language for what it is.
Women like anime which equates them with semen containers?
It's good that they're honest with themselves, but blatant wish-fulfilment sounds more fun and entertaining than shoujo.
Trying a little too hard now. Nobody's going to fall for this, better start insulting some people.
Oh geez, THAT takes me back. Athens isn't around anymore because he got a gf.
-Kaichou wa Maid-sama drags.
-Kimi ni Todoke draaaaaaags and the MC is blaand
-Lovely Complex the guy is abusive.
In terms of straight up romance shoujo, Ookami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji is the best. Adventure shoujo, Fushigi Yuugi. More drama elements, NANA or Furuba.
Taiyou no Ie and Hibi Chouchou anime when?!
Women like getting picked up by Mr. Perfect with one flaw that they will easily fix. Naturally no other woman can fix that flaw so it makes them special and bonds the man to them forever.
Because harem protags are so active and are not totally standing passive as waifu compete over their mediocre self.
I'm talking about the characters, you fucking retard. Who cares for 3DPD women?
I don't care if shoujo MCs are boring, at least they're cute and fuckable, that's more than most haremshit MCs have going on for them.
>Lovely Complex the guy is abusive
>In terms of straight up romance shoujo, Ookami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji is the best
Never they're shit
You can at least understand what the husbandos see in them : cute girl they would like to fuck.
I don't insult or swear at people. I cringed even to write down "shitty" (but it was his words, not mine). I try to be respectful and follow the golden rule but apparently doing that is considered a "troll move" by guys who just spent 50+ posts bashing on women.
But whatever, move on and talk about anime already.
The fact that the girl is boring makes her easier to project onto a bit.
If she was a 'semen container' she'd sleep around but this pretty much never happens (Hachi from NANA is considered a "slut" by some people for sleeping with a grand total of 4 guys over the entire series).
>Taiyou no Ie
You have shit taste, anon
>Sleeping with 4 guys
>Not a slut
Oh boy do I have some news for you!
Hibi Chouchou is pretty shitty, man.
kill yourself shit taste fatty
I don't know, but Erika, 9/10 likes the way Sata-kun treats her. Sata-kun is mean to her because he has a bit of a bullying fetish. He genuinely still cares about her though and this is shown repeatedly.
With Lovely Complex I just thought Ootani was a unfunny unattractive asshole. There's nothing likeable about him.
>liking drama instead of comedy
>not liking romcom shoujo
>not wanting to understand wimyn and apply this in real life
Well that's because he's short and Sata-kun or whatever is tall and handsome.
This is why we don't really like females on the internet. The internet used to be our playground and now? Well..
>Just how do you find an honest woman these days?
Internet? Is what I did.
>My Little Monster
How is a stoic MC regularly getting punched by some guy with anger issues, and being constantly unable to decide whether or not she loves him anyway, in any shape or form a good shoujo?
Seriously, at least Say I Love You had a lead guy who didn't regularly act like a grown up brat throwing violent temper tantrums.
Reminder that PoV and Ouran are shoujos.
Princess Tutu as well.
Also I object to this "one flaw". "One flaw" is something like "his shoes are ugly". Most shoujo male leas do have much deeper emotional issues which I guess you can lump as "one flaw" but its not some shallow or trivial thing.
Its all relative but she is the absolute highest number of any shoujo lead I know of. And its not THAT high.
Her husband slept with hundreds of girls, does that mean shoujo just treats men as vagina containers?
That didn't apply to Peach Girl. The person who treated MC like shit on a regular basis was her "best friend" instead, but the guy she ends up with almost consistently treated her like a princess.
Can't help my thoughts. But that doesn't mean I'd cheat. I care about his feelings, believe it or not.
>Her husband slept with hundreds of girls, does that mean shoujo just treats men as vagina containers?
No. Men and women are not equal. How do you not know this?
That's what my ex said before she started gobbling on alpha cock. Fuck off, whore.
But the MC is 2qt
>MC regularly getting punched
At least put some effort into your shitposting.
>Most shoujo male leas do have much deeper emotional issues which I guess you can lump as "one flaw" but its not some shallow or trivial thing.
The ones with serious emotional problems don't seem to be the majority. Usually is just shit like "muh family doesn't understand me" or other typical teenage angst.
Pic unrelated. This guy really has some issues.
Well, I for one find her 2autistic4me.
Most shoujo is awful and is no better than all those shitty YA novels so popular nowadays. I was completely unsurprised to find that some of those authors are fans of shoujo, they probably use some of it as reference.
Not everyone who browses /a/ is a boy. I thought it was obvious nowadays in the Free era but here we are.
A manga that can make me cry is instant 8/10+ for me, even if its really stupid drama. Most romcom just are lame. Wolf Girl and Black Prince is the proud exception as a manga that actually makes me laugh and loud and makes my heart beat.
Boys have killed themselves over cyberbullying too.
You mean weak beta sissy boys.
Shoujo is kewl, havent read much though, only nana and kyou koi wo hajimemasu
>that makes you laugh and cry
You have shit taste.
>LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU STOP POINTING OUT FLAWS IN MY SHIT TASTE
That's what you sound like.
>mean weak beta sissy boys.
aka most of the boys hanging out on 4chan anyway. Boys who are already often suffering from depression, anxiety and social ostracism. They bully each other because of the cyclical nature of abuse, where victims of abuse often want to re-assert power by abusing others. Even bullies bully because they hurt.
If moot banned cyberbullying tomorrow I know 4chan would riot but in the long run it would be a healthier board. And it would save lives.
Also if you want a good shoujo manga about bullying, check out Vitamin.
NANA is an amazing start but it means you already read the pinnacle of shoujo.
I feel that they are. Isn't most shoujo exploring the male/female lead's insecurities and tics? Its more than his family not understanding him. Its his temper, his fear of rejection, his need to be needed, etc. There are shallow shoujo which just want to tell a qt love story the end, but I don't think thats most.
Fuck off already back to /soc/.
Femanons are cancer killing /a/.
You are probably one of those guys who watch that one particular gif and just assume that shit is a regular thing in the manga.
How can you be a girl yet such a fucking faggot at the same time?
I quote a wise man here:
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cyber Bullying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha
Wolf Girl hasn't made me cry it made my heart beat because Sata-kun is the hottest shoujo male lead ever. He is everything every male tsundere should try to be.
Who gives a crap about that shit.
I honestly think this is just a reverse troll trying to make them look bad.
That faggot looks like he would hit the fucking deck after one punch.
He's just a shallow try-hard piece of shit.
He looks like a Nakamura character. Kill yourself.
If so, then he's being really fucking convincing.
I think I consider the people who watch shoujo to be worse than the Evangelion fanbase now.
post your fetishes
Really going above and beyond for this b8 now, aren't we?
Telling femwhores that they're worthless scum with shitty taste who don't deserve love and should fuck off back to /cgl/ or tumblr.
>If so, then he's being really fucking convincing.
if you are gullible
the moment I saw the word "cyberbullying" I instantly saw through the facade.
Femanons are like that though, complete cancer who doesn't belong here.
Bondage on male
No he doesn't. He's not as lanky nor does he have the pointy face nor the werido hair. Also, his relationship actually goes somewhere and is likely consummated (albeit offpanel).
Is this a joke?
This has to be a joke. Everyone accuses me of trolling for taking cyberbullises seriously so you decided to try to bait me back. Nice one.
"Nakamura character" my butt.
I fucking hate you guts. If you hate Ookami so much go and complain about it somewhere else.
I don't know who's the dude on the right but that's not the Nakamura character I was talking about.
Also you're wrong, fatty. Now kill yourself.
the only one I liked was kimi no todoke
that's shoujo right?
There's absolutely no reason to
I like crashing fatty-chans' hopes and dreams.
...................................................................I am defending Ookami, I love Ookami. The girl I am replying to said Sata-kun looked like a Nakamura character which is not a compliment. Because Nakamura characters are not known for looking good.
>stop crititizing what I like!!!!
No. you're attacking Ookami by pretending the fanbase is retarded.
>I was just pretending to be a retard!
Fem/a/nons are the most retarded group of people on 4chan, with the shittiest imaginable taste.
Retarded fanbases for retarded shows.
/r/ing R-18 doujin of the couple on the right with ahegao and cum everywhere
that dude must be a beast in bed, look at those muscles
Femanons don't really exist. They're either faggots or men pretending to be females (as if we didn't have enough of those).
He has shoulders and torso that could compete with the guys in Free!
Hentai doujin where.
Is that the girl pretending to be a guy?
That might have been the case 5 years ago.
Now /a/ is overrun by fujoshit landwhales who are killing the board.
No I'm just a faggot attracted to manly bodies.
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cyber Bullying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha
I mean the girl on the right. The reverse trap.
OK apparently that is some bs BL series from some other Nakamura as opposed to the extremely famous Nakamura who wrote Skip Beat and Tokyo Crazy Paradise featuring extremely ugly lanky guys aka Corn.
In that case who cares.
Oh no not some Nakamura character from some other Nakamura nobody has ever heard of.
All asians are reverse traps, they have no tits
Are all shoujo fans this stupid?
Goddamnit, I meant the best friend in Ookami. I don't know her name, the boyish girl.
I love shoujo and I feel like a faggot because of that.
Who cares about that shit show.
Yes, they're women.
The doujin is about that show you flaming homo.
Its Skip Beat.
You can probably find erotic fanfics of it but I think only fujo and men draw doujins.
Also that kiss is the culmination of 30+ volumes of nothing. Him and the female lead have some "sexy" scenes as the Cain siblings but they are in character the whole time. Sort of.
You should, being a man who likes shoujo is pathetic as fuck.
You know those obnoxious weeaboos who attend the local anime club? They're still better than you.
I don't know. That's what I'm requesting, but I don't even know who the characters on the right are. >>115273075
But I like cheesy romance and cute girls finding the loves of their lives.
I get the feeling a girl made those Kira and Shinn edits as well now.
Thanks for the answering the question, anon.
Like I said, you're pathetic.
Posting in bad threads. I'm really spoilt in /a/
The "tomboyish" girl is San-chan. She's not the girl on the right in >>115273075 though.
Fucking cockteases burn them all.
Stop posting that shit already, fuck off, go back to tumblr
not even MAL likes your shit
I wrote it right on the picture.
Its Kyoko and Corn aka Ren. From Skip Beat, volume 30+.
nobody cares if they don't fugg
nobody cares about shoujo because nobody fuggs
MAL suffers from the problem outlined in >>115252208
They rate Ookami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji low on the first episode because "oh he's mean". (Nevermind all the female tsunderes whose animes still get rated highly). Everyone who gives Ookami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji a chance loves it.
But how am I supposed to know who this ''Kyoko and Corn'' are?
Fuck off already and accept that your shitty anime is shit.
Yes, people have sex in shoujo, maybe about a third of the time (?), it depends. Pic related.
People do care about Skip Beat a lot because it has a lot of comedy. If you want porno just watch porno.
You type Kyoko and Corn into google. Bing might work too.
I dare you to show me a better male tsundere from an ongoing shoujo manga.
>that pic related
Haha, what a dumb bitch.
Perfect for the target audience to self-insert into.
But OP, one of my all time favorite Manga is Honey & Clover
BELOVED BY THE MASSES, ACCOMPLISHED MORE THAN YOUR FAGGOT, NOT DOMINATED BY PUSSY THOUGH STILL A TSUNDERE FAGGOT BECAUSE OF NINJA JESUS BUT STILL BETTER THAN YOUR LITTLE SHIT
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO SHOUJO SLUTS IN REAL LIFE, BLESS YOU SASUKE
And then we have Narutards. This thread is really the worst of /a/ put together.
Narutards are on par with femwhores.
This thread became shit as soon as OP typed the word "shoujo".
Just needs some bateman or bane for the cherry on top.
Why didn't I understand that girls think that way in HS?
Now I'm stuck here for life with the rest of you.
I can't believe you're still here after more than 400 posts.
She's a throwaway character, the male lead is a manslut. The female lead is Hachi actually, the poor waifu in this picture. Its a very complex kind of relationship and involves complex feelings on both of their ends. If you haven't read it you should.
I understood at 18.
It was too late at that point.
That's bullshit. I broke a window and all I got was a drive home by a police officer that later fucked my single mother.
Codeword for shit.
Sasuke kills Sakura? Something tells me I should get caught up on Naruto but something else tells me its 500+ chapters.
It wouldn't have helped you at all. You can't cure ugliness.
Fuck off, that guy seems alpha as fuck, he has countless bitches on his dick and doesn't care about their feelings.
And I'm not going to read your shitty shoujo, fuck off fatty.
Stand Alone Complex is pretty good.
Stop trying to push your shit taste on me fatty.
You mean shitty and convoluted, and full of MISUNDERSTANDINGS.
Shoujo will forever remain shit.
Most of /a/ is pretty fat though.
Doesn't the mangaka suffer from mental problems or something? I mean the sudden stop in releases a while ago.
But I liked Nana
See so someone had sex because you broke the window.
I feel there's a lesson to be learnt here. I just don't know what it is.
Holy fuck this is the 5th Shoujo thread that goes off tangent. This is what happens when you mix shit juices with semen
Kill yourself. Also all that bitch needs is a desk to the head. I want to kill her.
>mix shit juices with semen
You mean anal sex?
That's so retarded.
Just like shoujo fans.
Girls are nothings tears and shit.
>dat /mlp/ virgin percentage
Reminds me of that bit in Oniisama e where this fine young woman whips a box cutter out.
>only one anon mentions Honey and Clover
This kills the Hagu
Girls are sacks of shit, so if you fuck one you're fucking shit. Like a scat fetishist.
What's happening there? The slut goes berserk but gets put down? Or is it the slut who's doing the beating?
A slut needs to be beaten.
No,I mean complex. She definitely sometimes feels like a "stupid bitch" for having sex with him, but she is so attracted to him and doesn't want to miss her chance but she still feels that guilt and fear of being used.
And while he's a giant manslut and workaholic he genuinely cares for his loved ones and wants to support and care for others, he was willing to care for her child (of ambiguous paternity) even when the "nice guy" Nobu was not.
Its the opposite of "misunderstandings". The drama in NANA always feels genuine.
She suffers from illness. She drew a few Junko corner things I guess, but yeah its still ambiguous as to when she will take NANA back up. Paradise Kiss is a josei manga she wrote (sequel to Gokinjo Monogatari also quite good).
Honey and Clover is josei.
Nana is complete shit, with retarded characters and cringeworthy dialogues.
>he was willing to care for her child (of ambiguous paternity)
HAHAHAHAHAHA ALL THAT SLUT WISH-FULFILLMENT
And you call that genuine? How many stds do you have to relate to that?
Honey and Clover ended as josei. And I personally really disliked it. Usagi Drop gets a lot of flack for this girl falling in love with her father figure (she initiates it), but Honey and Clover seems to get a free pass when the father figure pursues a girl who still looks/acts like a 7 year old.
oh fuck you're right, now I look like fucking idiot
If Nana is supposed to be a pinnacle of shoujo, then shoujo is officially shittier than generic harems with beta MCs.
Don't worry. You don't look any stupider than the most of the posters in this thread.
Cunt you've come to the wrong neighbourhood if you think you can shit-talk loli here.
He's definitely smarter than shoujo fans.
>now I look like fucking idiot
You fit right in then. Couple of very dedicated shitposters we have today.
>he was willing to care for her child (of ambiguous paternity) even when the "nice guy" Nobu was not.
Pffffttt,you call that genuine?
Women are so retarded, holy fuck.
She's not a slut, a kid in her classroom caught her having sex with her bf in the classroom, (the bf face was hidden in her skirt), everyone made fun of her, the bf denied it was him, so people thought she cheated and she got bullied on.
She returns to school and gets bullied even harder, goes berserk but gets put down.
That's absolutely idiotic.
>was having sex with random guy
>not a slut
Does not compute.
In NANA, how far in the manga did the anime get?
So she's a slut. Serves her right for putting out for Chad.
>read this turd
>suddenly HAIR LENGHT INSPECTION DAY
Holy shit what?
>the bf denied it was him,
Is all shoujo full of stupid forced drama like this?
Hair length inspection happens on the same day as penis inspection day. Are you stupid?
I think the characters, for better and for worse, are very understandable and realistic. I know girls like Hachi and Nana.
It makes sense for his character, who has that need to be needed I guess. He takes up responsibility and in fact he craves it a bit (he is the driving force behind Tempest), he has a very strong work/responsibility ethic whereas Nobu shrunk away from it.
Its not wish fulfillment when he is also a manslut and a bit cold, both before and after their marriage.
Does the plot ever become something more than 'plane jane gets bullied'?
Shut the fuck up already, nobody cares.
>understandable and realistic
Boring crap. Stop posting that shit.
>Its not wish fulfillment
It is. Women are that stupidly retarded, or betas. But betas are virgins shunned from society, not cold or sluts. Stop posting your retarded shitty drama.
It's not some random dude.
They are in a relationship and he is afraid to lose his "honour student" image.
Kill yourself your shit taste is unbearable.
>Its not wish fulfillment
Yes it is you retarded whore.
Chapter 42 (though some stuff gets skipped in the anime adaptation iirc and the prologue chapters for Takumi/Nobu/Naoki are must read).
Protip: how far the anime gets usually is listed on bakaupdates manga.
It makes sense, he didn't want to get made fun of too so he threw her under the bus. In the end he didn't really care about her, making him a terrible bf but terrible bfs exist irl too.
>Protip: how far the anime gets usually is listed on bakaupdates manga.
Good to know. Not a big manga reader evidently.
Shitty forced drama, as exppected of shoujo.
>it makes sense
>he threw her under the bus
Fucking listen to yourself you retard.
Yes, they start dating for real and fall in love etc. She actually likes his bully demeanor.
This kind of bully I could do without.
>being in a sexual relationship with some dude when you're supposed to keep your purity
She's a filthy disgusting slut and she deserves the same fate as this one.
I can actually see that happen.
Especially in a school with such high moral standards.
That's just Stockholm Syndrome, idiot.
Damn all it took was a big guy to make her mind broken.
Sometimes callous or uncaring people in real life throw each other under the bus to preserve their own social reputation etc.
I won't give any spoilers but it is base on a true story.
Fuck off already.
Why are you so angry I wish you're waifu ends in a barrel too.
It makes sense for an egotistical teenager that cares more about his reputation than someone elses feelings. Nobody is actually defending his behavior.
Nobody cares, fuck off.
Some girls just like being bullied, although you have to bully them in the right way. I suppose the same applies to some men, but I'd imagine it's rarer.
Sluts doesn't deserve having their "feelings" respected.
People are people. Even shitposters like you.
No because he really cares about her.
Just read it. Every anon on 4chan which bullies girls and calls them a slut/whore should read it.
Nobody accepts this behaviour. It's abusive and unhealthy and horrifying.
She didn't even like the sex he forced himself on her and dropped her at his own convinience.
>No because he really cares about her.
Bullshit, that's just romanticized abuse. It's 50 shades of gray shit. In reality this is stockholm syndrome and it's problematic that young women are allowed to read it.
Its confusing they are talking about Ookami Shoujo there, which is just light teasing etc. And yes some girls do like that.
Are you referring to the shitposting in this thread or the bullying in Ookami? Because I was referring to the latter.
>just some light teasing
That's how it starts.
So does this mean women want to be raped?
Rape is always at the top of every sex fantasy survey for women.
Why do you think 3dpd is a thing?
No it means they want to read shit books
Fuck off already.
Shoujo shitters can't complain with the shit they read and they try to justify because "muh slut feelings"
Is it problematic that young men are "allowed" to read stories with a female tsundere?
Sata-kun is no different, and in fact he is milder because all he does is some faint verbal teasing etc. Female tsunderes punch their lead men into walls.
I don't know if you are a "feminist" who totally miss the point of feminism and/or a "nice guy" male but please don't protect girls/women from ourselves.
>don't protect girls/women from ourselves.
Nobody here does that, 3D is PD and I couldn't give a fuck if they're cute abusive boyfriend ends up beating them for real later on.
>Just read it. Every anon on 4chan which bullies girls and calls them a slut/whore should read it.
I am interested in this part of the story but I find the art style of NANA disgusting and I really don't want to read through it all. Could you give me the chapter number in which all the story about this "slut" and the "honour student" begins?
It is you women that started screaming problematic at porn and now you pretend it's all fine and dandy because you think the guy is hot. Fuck you, romanticized emotional abuse is still abuse and you schlick it to an abuser. You make up excuse for him and other ahojo abusers just like people in real life make up excuses for actual abusers. You're a filthy hypocrite piece of shit.
3D is disgusting and shoujo anime/manga is designed to pander to them.
What do you expect?
> Female tsunderes punch their lead men into walls.
That's just a comedy routine, so it's not really comparable.
This ookai shoujo girl sure is a shallow bitch.
Be a bit nice to her and she would ride your dick every day.
I can't imagine she'd win even she goes berserk. It's her vs 4 people, she'd get her arse kicked within 4 seconds.
Um that is Vitamin. Its not NANA. And its only 1 volume long, starting on chapter 1 ending on chapter 3.
Right now you are the only abuser I see. You don't think words can hurt? OK first of all I don't even watch or read porno. Ookami shoujo has implied sex off panel. Its not a porno. Aand I think its fine for men to watch female tsunderes who are all "abusive" too. Its FICTION. Not real. Unlike your comments.
Domestic violence gets played for laughs and no one bats an eye. What a sad state of affairs.
Gilgamesh knows how to deal with her, she's indeed like a dog.
>being this braindead
You're so fucking annoying, fuck off and spout your bullshit to someone who cares.
And? Fiction does not exist in a vacuum. You fap to an abuser.
Guess shoujo art style looks really similar, or I am blind. Thanks anon, I will check it.
There is literally one poster who ruins every shoujo thread. You should be able to identify her by her posting style and common fallacies. Just ignore her.
Making abuse into a joke is just as "problematic" as making abuse into schlick-bait.
Either way its just fiction. Who cares?
Just the modern tsunderes, they're pretty shit tier I admit.
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Then so do men. Someone shut down Bakamonogatari.
> OK first of all I don't even watch or read porno
Shit no wonder these bitches be so irate
No they are not good.
Not to say there aren't any good shoujo but I'd watch some generic shounen or harem over a generic shoujo anyday.
>it's just fiction
It's so hard to be a teenager, to try to find who you truly are, fiction that is destined to be read by young people has some kind of role, it should set examples instead of showing dysfunctional and codependent relationships like they're normal, because they're not.
Wake the fuck up, girls, and never accept being treated like that. You are an individual, you are important and you matter. Your decisions will have impacts. You deserve so much better than someone like this Sata-fucking-asshole. Let him go die in a fucking hole and go lead your own life like the independent and free person you are. And please, destroy the person who will so much as try to tell you otherwise.
>People cannot handle entertainment made by females for females
Ever considered that it might simply be shit?
>still believing the fem/a/non maymay
Wake up sheeple!
Is that so bad to like male tsunderes ?
Fakir was 10/10 husbandos, so is Gintoki and Long Qu in Fire Emblem and all fit the tusndere category.
>Wake the fuck up, girls, and never accept being treated like that. You are an individual, you are important and you matter. Your decisions will have impacts. You deserve so much better than someone like this Sata-fucking-asshole. Let him go die in a fucking hole and go lead your own life like the independent and free person you are. And please, destroy the person who will so much as try to tell you otherwise.
Holy fuck, just how much of a groveling beta are you?
I bet you're one of those sad little "nice guys" who get mad when women choose to have sex with fun alphas instead.
You're a fucking embarrassment.
Gintoki is not tsundere.
It's bad to like anything for someone with shit taste like you.
I do like shoujo. I watched gekkan shoujo nozaki-kun last season and it was great.
Nobody says this crap when it comes to shounen romances.
If your hand is smaller than your face you have cancer.
Goddamnit you're an embarassment to each and every male out there. I certainly hope you understand that. This is the most betamaxx thing I've read all month, not joking either.
Please undergo gender reassignment surgery pronto.
I can recongize abuse when I see it, romanticized or not. Shoujo is full of lying bullshit. See you with a broken eye from your "fun alpha" in a few years.
That is a seinen written by a shoujo author (so it has massive crossover appeal imho). Its very good though, mega adorable.
>gekkan shoujo nozaki-kun
Yes he is, he acts like an asshole sometime, but you know deep down he cares.
It runs in a shoujo magazine therefore is it shoujo.
That's because there's no romance in shonen.
I'm a man you fucking idiot.
The post you wrote reeks of /r9k/ and the "nice-guy syndrome".
Women like abusive bad-boys who treat them like shit, and your whining won't change a thing. You're an embarrassment.
>that whole post
I didn't know that betamaxes like you still existed.
>Serialized In (magazine) Gangan Online (Square Enix)
It's a shounen.
So the only good shoujo anime to ever exist is actually a shounen?
It runs in Gangan Online.
How does it feel knowing that you will never have grills love you as much as they love bad boy Gil-kun?
He's a pathetic beta so he'll probably spout something along the lines of:
>If she's happy being with another man, then I'm happy too because I care for her!
Beta males, not even once.
Princess Tutu isn't a shounen
It also runs in Gangan Romance, which is shoujo.
So it's both shounen and shoujo at the same time.
It's also shit.
Oh. Well I don't think anything I've seen any actual shoujo since Tonari no Kaibutsu then.
I've picked up Akatsuki no Yona this season but I don't know if I'll stick with it. First episode was kind of bland but I see potential. I'm about to watch the second.
I feel like all shounen/seinen written by women should be upgraded to honorary shoujos.
Nah, fuck off.
>Princess Tutu isn't a shoune
>Serialized In (magazine) Champion RED (Akita Shoten)
Nobody cares about the shitty manga.
>shoujo is a genre
not the best but really good, hoping for a second season
Stop trying to backpaddle.
Uh I never said it was?
I just said that shounen/seinen written by women should be upgraded to honorary shoujos.
It's not back peddling. The manga came after the anime and it's shit. Nobody that talks about Princess Tutu is ever referring to the manga.
>shoujo is a genre
You can't "upgrade" a demographic.
Go away femwhore.
It doesn't change the fact that you were wrong.
>You can't "upgrade" a demographic.
Yes you can. You can "upgrade" a demographic easier than you can "upgrade" a genre, ffs.
Fact is that as a female, I enjoy shounen/seinen written by women too. Therefore I upgrade it to honorary shoujo. Get over it.
>Imma grill btw ;)
>that means you have to take my retarded ideas seriously, get over it silly boys :D
Holy fuck, stop posting already.
>Get over it
Only #rekt people make this comment and you know it.
So the only good shoujo anime to ever exist is actually a shounen?
You were the one that brought up the manga adaptation.
fuck off with that censorship bullshit adolf, people should be allowed to read whatever the fuck the want.
Fucked up the quoting, but my point still stands.
Hitler genuinely did nothing wrong.
Muh gun control
Lets be fair and upgrade all the decent shoujo/josei written by men to seinen.
Oh wait there are none. Because men cannot write shoujo but women write awesome shonens and seinens all the time.
Why would any self-respecting man degrade himself to writing shoujo?
They make me warm and fuzzy inside.
it's all about the attitude
Probably this guy
Betafaggots like the one you quoted wouldn't be able to pander to their target demographic and wouldn't be able to become successful shoujo artists.
And the men with ability know better than to engage in producing shoujoshit.
Maid sama is average.
Kimi ni Todoke is good. S2 is average. Lovely Complex is good.
It's all shit.
Reporting shit posters. They love to post in here even though they've never watched or read a shoujo series.
Who the fuck hates Kaibutsu-kun?
I don't need to watch female-pandering garbage to know that it's shit.
You're taste is shit. Watch some Natsume.
Why not marathon it together with Hyouka?
God damn, 5 minutes in and you sleep like a baby
>look up Yutsume
>see generic cookie-cutter shoujo artstyle, and a generic Mr. Perfect bishie faggot who probably abuses his useless girlfriend
Yeah, fuck off.
It was fun until the last episode Manga is adorable. I didn't want Haru to win and wanted Yamaken to win. I need to read the spin offs.
this thread started good but end up like any other /co/ or /pol/ shit tier
anyway, there's good shojo like good shonen (yes), but ookami is just garbage
You don't marathon Mushishi, Hyouka, or Natsume.
When you assume you make an "ass" of "u" and "me" but mostly you because you never even bothered to read the genres.
Its mediocre. Could be a lot worse.
I can't take this shit seriously, how the fuck can anyone see some try-hard jap teenager as menacing?
He's probably something like 5 feet tall and is built like a twig.
I haven't been that angered by a oneshot. He doesn't even like her. She doesn't even like him. There was no chemistry or explanation. At least Ookami has a little of that, not much but just enough to skid by.
You're supposed to imagine you're a 4 feet tall Japanese girl.
yeah, mediocre is better suited
wait, this looks better than the anime premise actually
If I was a 4 feet tall Japanese girl I would have higher standards.
Don't do it. You want those 2-3 minutes of your life.
It's just a shitty Mushishi
not the same guy, but c'mon, both are good in their own way, I like Mushishi more but Natsume is great
I'm sorry. The habitual shitposting in this thread is contagious.
Is there anything that women won't ruin?
Whatever you say anon. Dont expect Natsume to be the same as Mushishi, they have similar premises but are different.
How did an unrelated series ruin another series? Stop shitposting.
That already looks much more interesting than tryhard shit.
Also a woman wrote Mushishi.
Eh, I think it's a nice sentiment. Seems a sign of insecurity to attack it so much.
They don't like it when they end up falling on doorknobs.
Almost as insecure as you samefagging yourself, trying to defend that embarrassing load of twaddle.
It's not an attack, it's just an embarassment. Please stop posting. Sometimes I wonder how individuals like you even breathe.
nah i'm not him, feel free to prove otherwise
That anon is content with their life inside a shell as long as those kinds of people have a little room to breath, they are okay. One day, they will learn. Captcha: class
Don't need to.
people who think it's not bad to tell girls "you deserve better" when it comes to hot guys who bully them?
i could have used some sense knocked into me when i was a teenager
this girl like
It's the very definition of tryhard shit though.
It was. I cringed. Shoujo should be fluffy, not tryhard shit.