I have been watching anime for 7 years, yet I am considered "old school" and that my experiences with anime aren't new enough for most of the people I have spoken to (regardless of the fact that whenever they want new anime they come to me). They constantly go on about Naruto like it's the holy grail of anime, and whoa unto you if you happen to mention that they could have maybe taken a break instead of torturing us with some of those filler arcs they stuck in. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Naruto, but having read the manga, the arcs were painful. This attitude seems to go across the board unfortunetely, with people getting hostile if I use the "wrong" name for a show, this seems to happen mostly for Bakuretsu Tenshi (Thanks to the local mag, forever known in this country as Burst Angel), which also typifies the other reason I get no community feeling from my fellow fans, I watch shows for the animation style, the story, not scantily clad females (If I wanted that I'd go to a night-club, the girls there are at least REAL). I also watch a lot of shows that get me wierd looks because they're considered "girly", such as Azumanga Diaoh and Ai Yori Aoshi, which I do enjoy because they're funny, but the story telling is also well done.
Thanks anonymous, I just had to get that off my chest.
>Thanks anonymous, I just had to get that off my chest.
There are blog sites for that.
I don't get very well witht he anime community either.
When I go to forums or some local community thing, everyone are taking things I say too seriously.
I say shit sux to something and right away a discussion will be sparked with 20+ pages like I was the world's greatest troll or something.
And the fangirls are all dumb yaoi whores, fanboys all worship Bleach and Naruto and everyone are stuck so far up their own asses they can't see any bad review for the anime they like (oh wait, /a/'s like that, too).
I really can't stand the anime community.
Thanks for making this thread, I need to vent on the community myself. /a/ should have threads like these more often!
There's definitely an anime community, but I believe in recent years it's become so elitist and cultesque that it's really quite unwelcoming to someone who doesn't froth rabid over every new series available. I've been pretty big into anime for a number of years—I really, really love the medium—but as a new friend said to me not long ago, “It's nice being able to find normal people to talk about anime with.” The anime community I see today is too self-interested and too self-important for someone with any interests outside of anime to feel comfortable in. I'll admit, I did go through a fangirlish phase when I was about 14, but (a) most 14-year-old girls are pretty obnoxious anyway, (b) I grew out of it and (b) only expressed that level of obsession around my friends, and I still respected other people's opinions. From what I've seen of the rest of the anime community, that really isn't the norm.
For example, there's a local anime store I frequent; I go there to buy, and to converse with the store owner, who is a very nice man who can carry on a very normal conversation despite his occupation. However, whenever I go in there I'm accosted by one of two kids of people. The first kind are the Stalker Types—they follow you around the store asking you for personal information, invading your personal space, telling you WAY too much about themselves, and generally smothering you. They talk about voice actors like they're their close personal friends, and assume you've read/watched every series they have just because you also like anime. The second kind are the Holier-Than-Thous. These people ridicule every series you pick up (particularly if it is, god forbid, popular) and snicker to each other about how their tastes in anime are so much more refined than yours. They then usually go and pick up some very “adult” (read: originally ran in a boy's magazine but it has blood in it or something) series and discuss its finer merits, ignoring any flaws the series may have. This creates a very uncomfortable shopping environment, and if it weren't for the store owner, I'd probably just go to Borders.
This sort of socially inappropriate behavior carries over to most other fan-heavy environments, as well. My freshman year in college I tried to join my school's anime club, but felt so alienated and uncomfortable I only went to one meeting. At that meeting, I was yelled at for attempting to sing along to a themesong, told that my tastes were both abnormal and bad (apparently if you like Excel Saga you deserve to be shot, and Wolf's Rain is the greatest piece of art ever made, and watching anything dubbed is like killing thousands of adorable kittens), and one boy whom I had never met before told me he loved me. There was also a 35 year old man with a Bluetooth headset there, and I can attest that he most certainly was not a student.
I love anime, I really do. I have more manga and DVDs than I know what to do with; I draw fanart; I listen to J-pop; I've taken Japanese. But I also have interests outside of anime, and I don't always agree with popular opinion as to what's good and what isn't. I also have reasonable social skills. So while I believe that an anime community exists, I don't really find it very welcoming. Probably cause I always feel like I'm about to be raped.
Naruto = utter absolute shit.
You need to go find yourself a new anime community. Everyone knows that it's One Piece that's the Holy Grail of anime, not Naruto.
It's people like you that make this community so hatable! :<
Maybe if you were a bit nicer you wouldn't scare off REAL girls with social skills.
"and watching anything dubbed is like killing thousands of adorable kittens"
I certainly wouldn't go that far but...They got one thing right. True fans NEVER watch an anime dubbed. They stick with the original language if they can.
ummm, no. depends on the dub, some of them might even surpass the japanese, e.g. cromartie high school.
Not necesarily bro. I watch everything subbed the first time through, but I generally give dubs a shot after the fact and a lot of times they're better dubbed.
da ppl who posted the walls of txt are fukkin douches
naruto and bleach are da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best animez eva. u can disagree if u want 2 but ur stil rong.
stop tryin 2b elitist prix and just enjoi it. theres a reezin y evry1 likes them
It seems as if you actually have a personality
My best experiences with fans are with people who are just, you know... Relaxed. Head quite some ways from their assholes. In one breath you are talking The Flash villians, the next having a geekout over Macross, the next you're talking Lovecraft.
We're all people. Unfortunately some regard their identity as a result of their hobby rather than from the fact that they are human beings.
da ppl who posted the walls of txt are fukkin dooshes
naruto and bleach are da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best da best animez eva. u can disagree if u want 2 but ur stil rong.
stop tryin 2b elitist prix and just enjoi it. theres a reezin y evry1 likes them
Seriously!? I mean for me, the voices kinda grow on you. Watching it dubbed just doesn't fit. Japanese people speak faster than normal so Americans have to speed up their talk just to keep up with the flaps. It really doesn't sound natural...plus the voices bore me.
Umm, that's a weird response. Let me guess, you're one of the stalker-types I mentioned?
It's not all the time the dubs are better, and I don't know that they're actually better. But I've noticed watching in a language that is not your own lets you ignore poor acting, but it makes it that much harder to appreciate good acting. When the acting and script editing are done well in a dub, it's that much better of an experience IMO.
>If I wanted that I'd go to a night-club, the girls there are at least REAL
You don't belong to /a/! Go away with your pigdistusgusting 3D women!
It's not MY fault you're pathetic
No, it's your fault you're still under the illusion that makes you think 3D women are superior to 2D women. But don't worry, we're all here to help you understand what's wrong with you. Snap out of it and your soul can still be saved!
Sure, keep telling yourself that. Ino will never be real, and if she was she'd be sucking Sasuke's dick, not yours, Narutard.
Meanwhile, I'll be getting some from a real girl, and a real companion.
only if you don't know how to properly appreciate foreign entertainment or art.
"and whoa unto you"
Holy shit, now I'm offended! I've never watched a single episode of Naruto in my whole friggin' life and I never will. You'd better take back your words, bastard!
No, I'm just not a native moonspeaker.
It's spelled whoa dumbass
However in this context, it's supposed to be "woe". But it's still whoa. Fucker
You do make a good argument there. It is easy to ignore acting if the language is not your own. Still, it is pretty tough to do good acting and rush a sentence. I guess that would make a good dub stellar, am I right?
I learned japanese to get a better understanding of dialogue in anime.
You can bet I'm not watching any dubs.
to me, a show produced in japan with a japanese script and japanese voice actors - the concept and the 'expression' of the series - will never be matched 100% in any adaption.
I base this on my studying japanese, there's simply stuff you cannot, in any way, translate due to the differences of the language.
Also about community. I generally consider the 'new' teenagers much more rude, arrogant and self-important than any previous generation.
I'd say that's the main issue and is reflected on the communities...
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Enjoy your anime.
Ignore the fans.
I'm not a moonspeaker either, also english isn't my mother tongue too, I still can notice horrible english dubs. I've hated dubs since I was 8 years old (maybe earlier), lion king was so horrible in my country's dub.
You should try to understand foreign languages a bit, at least the feeling, no need to go study moonspeak.
Your comprehension is still limitedm since you weren't raised in a Japanese environment or have ever used Japanese as your primary language for any period of time.
Don't socialise with lesser nerds. Suppress your powerlevel.
I've actually learned some Japanese just by constantly watching anime in Japanese. There are points where you can feel the flow of the language, and you pick up words and phrases along the way.