Did you pray today /a/?
for my FLAG end
i prayed for fuck once, but i didn't get fuck, so i stopped praying
I prayed for world peace
Then the war in Afghanistan happened
yeah god can be a dick like that sometimes
Actually it's because Bush prays for the war harder than the whole world combine while he also putting an effort for it. The other are like "lol, God, world peace." and then they proceed to fap to loli rape hentai.
What if you don't pray and then go fap to loli rape hentai. Then are you not really so much of a bad chap?
Oh wow, you're right about the loli rape part
Does this mean that Bush doesn't fap to loli rape hentai?
Action speaks louder than words. Putting a physical effort is actually a part of a pray since it also shows how much you yearn for it. Most of us only pray with words, which most of the time are nothing but worthless noise unless it's being accompanied by some sacrifice.
Watch Kaiji. The harder your effort is for something, the higher the value of your wish.
Ya he's not into women.
I can't vouch for him not fapping to shota rape hentai though.
What if you don't pray, because your not a christfag and all...
I think Blair would knew about that better.
Go to the Gay Bar. You might find him there.
>Action speaks louder than words. Putting a physical effort is actually a part of a pray since it also shows how much you yearn for it.
Which is why no matter who it is, if they put an effort into something, it could work. The tricky part is people never realize that when they fail, it might be because the effort didn't come close to the value of their wish, and also might be because the action of others, which might be contradicting with theirs are actually better, so the wish of those others are granted instead.
Spoiler - All religion is bullshit. If you want something to improve, than get off your fucking knees and do it.
Atheism is actually bullshit too if you look more into it.
The better action to take is whether you're a man of faith or not,
>If you want something to improve, than get off your fucking knees and do it.
lulz Anonymous is arguing with himself
Religion is a load of bollocks.
I'm not religious, I want things to improve, but I won't lift a finger for that to happen.
Well the entire point of religion is that it can't be explained by science, so yeah. Bollocks for anyone not religious.
And that is why you fail.
I'm more anti-dogma than atheist. Any unprovable assertion, whatever it may be, is bullshit.
Hey dawg, even if there's a scientific explanation for why people are religious it doesn't make their experience any less real or valid. I don't think you ever said it did either, other than on 4chan.
It cannot be explained by science or reason because it is a mixture of myths and legends, held together by semantics, flawed logic, and delusion.
I despise Dawkins for mixing up zealotry with religion, but I dislike that argument. What if I told you there was an invisible pink unicorn galloping across the bridge of your nose right now? Would you believe it because you can't PROVE LOL that it isn't?
What? So you're saying that if I thought I saw a ghost, but it turned out via security tapes that it was just a shadow, I should still totally trust my original evaluation that it was a ghost - despite the empirical evidence against said belief?
I remember some guy saying this: Sonny, I do believe in God, but I don't believe he'll send me fried chicken flying down from sky into my plate.
Then you must not believe in the theory of evolution either. That thing is unprovable and have no solid evidence to back it up.
Although I'm an Atheist, I believe in Urd. We born-again Urdists believe that the Brown-skinned Goddess/Demon will emerge through our TV sceeens & screw us senseless. But then, who needs proof when you've got FAITH?
And at least we can SEE Urd. And that's the difference. Can't say the same for your so-called 'God', eh? Xtianfags, Fundies & Troy Brooks take note.
Hey guys, anime isn't real. This includes your waifu.
Actually anime is real. It does exist. It's just not exist beyond the realm of 2D.
Then prove that you dumbass. Religion is a social construct and you can't defeat it by pointing out it's illogical. Religion doesn't care and neither should you. Most of the things we do in our everyday lives aren't founded on any kind of real analysis or unaffected logic. Only if you can argue the point that religion is harmful, which it obviously is mostly not and it's even helped some subset of people, do you have an actual argument.
Oh man I really don't want to get into how hard you fail here.
I'm just going to sage this thread now because if I wanted to argue with a stupid cunt about this shit I'd go to a "serious discussion" board on some random ass forum instead of /a/.
NO SHIT, SHERLOCK!
I continue to sage
I continue to sage
And so I pray unlimited sage works
yeah, just go back to your /b/
Have a nice sage Anonymous
Wow... your ignorance of the last century of study of biology amuses me.
Wow, I can't believe this fucking religious shit has infected /a/.
so, give us your proof
I don't go to /b/ and stuff like this exactly the reason why
The entire point of religion is that it doesn't mesh with science.
I don't see what the problem here is. So people may or may not be delusional in their beliefs. Provided that they don't go around saying that everything proved by science is false, I see nothing that hurts science or humanity.
Saying that there exists a God as an absolute deity doesn't trivialize science. The natural world has laws, and we can study and understand those laws. The laws may or may not have been set down by some sort of deity, but hey who cares?
SAGING AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT
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>I see nothing that hurts science or humanity.
It butthurts the atheist, who can't accept opinions other than their "superior" one.
Indeed no one should fucking care.
And on that note, fuck this thread. Sage.
Ugh, Christfags ITT. There's nothing worse than Christfags of the 4chan age demographic, they're always 14-18 years old and barely know anything about anything.
GB2/sunday school/ and remember not to think while you're there, Christfags, because thought can seriously fuck up the whole religion thing.
Atheists are so mature.
You probably shouldn't, but you still might. In any case, your original experience that it was a ghost was as real as the evaluation that came after. So, when we're dealing with something about which you can't really present an argument or any kind of physical evidence, a religious experience is "valid". What I mean is that there is no contradiction in understanding that people can be religious because of scientifically explicable phenomena, but I don't see how that makes the religious experience any less valuable.
>Saying that there exists a God as an absolute deity doesn't trivialize science. The natural world has laws, and we can study and understand those laws. The laws may or may not have been set down by some sort of deity, but hey who cares?
Sure as long as you aren't somehow positive that that deity exists and, as long as you don't think that deity can hear you when you pray to it.
I don't care. I don't have a superiority complex. I just hate people who take bullshit seriously - even to the point of violence.
Silly humans. Also, Sage.
The whole idea of sagebombing a thread is to race it to post limit as fast as possible
If the original experience is wrong, than fuck it. Anyone who develops a conviction about something they have seen or heard, without all the evidence, is a fucking moron.
Silly humans. Also, Sage.
>even to the point of violence
Hahaha, and atheists don't?
Neither of those people and a slow typer but, evolution the physical phenomenon of mixing genetic information between generations and the survival of the best adaptation to the environment is well understood right down to the molecular level and can also be empirically proven, e.g. the color of moths species has changed to darker shades in industrial areas, or if you put antibiotics on petri dishes with bacteria eventually a resistant strain will emerge. What is not proven and, as it's post fact, technically not provable, is the theory of the evolution of current species from previous ones, e.g. humans from something before humans.
The Nazis, and the USSR both had state legislated dogma - ideas that could not be questioned, to the point of violence. Even if they were atheists (Nazi's could have been Catholic though), they still had dogma.
Dogma = Genocidal stupidity.
Religion hampers progress. Look up George Bush's faith-based initiatives. Look up the "dark age". How many atheists do you know of that think homosexuality should be punishable by death? How many atheists do you know of that think abortionists should be killed? How many atheists do you know of that are trying to force science classes to teach intelligent design "theory" along side evolution?
I could go on and on. Sure, some people with religious beliefs, hell, MANY people with religious beliefs are entirely sane on most subjects, but that doesn't excuse religion for being what it is and causing what it does.
>Anyone who develops a conviction about something they have seen or heard, without all the evidence, is a fucking moron.
But just when do you know you have all the evidence? I thought that's how science works too, by collective experience, and I study a science at uni right now.
Also, this thread is the cancer that is killing /a/.
I would sage with images if I was at home and had images to sage with
Well, when a kid comes to you saying he's being pursued by the boogeyman or that he was playing with a fairy you don't pay him much heed. Maybe you call him gay for playing with fairies, but that's about it.
It's the same thing with atheists and nutjobs who say they have been touched by Jesus or that they saw the virgin mary.
If you think disregard for the real world should be accepted or even rewarded, then sure, it's valid.
I only see people wasting time and limiting their potential out of fear of something that has no evidence of existence.
In the end, 'faith' is nothing but an euphemism for indulging in ignorance.
will be home soon and hijack this shit
All it takes for we Atheists to be convinced that a God exists is for you to summon this 'God' of yours so that we can see him in physical form, that can be also heard and touched. That's all it takes.
What's that, Xtianfags? If you could do that (even though you CAN'T & thus we'll never be convinced) it would result in the existence of God being PROVED, and thus 'Faith' being destroyed & thus the whole basis (& point) of religious belief collapses around your ears? Oh. Well, that little paradox is YOUR problem, and until you can convince we Atheists in this way (the ONLY way), you'll never succeed in doing so. Ergo, religion is bollocks.
Science forms consensus based on empirical evidence, and realistically weighs possible explanations against the evidence so far collected.
A person who sees a shadow, and then pronounces it to be a ghost, based on nothing but their own shallow experience and lack of critical faculties, is a fucking idiot. To claim that something must have a certain explanation with conviction you must have evidence that proves it was not simply an alternative, and more realistic, explanation.
Extraordinary claims = Extraordinary evidence
Is it me who fail, or is it the theory itself? There's no fossil evidence that the theory of evolution are at works. If there's anything that the fossil prove so far is that a complete species looks like as if it suddenly appears on the face of the world. Papa Mendel's theory is actually going against Darwin's theory. The existence of Neo-Darwin's theory itself has proven that the original Darwin's theory is bullshit. Neo-Darwin's theory is also bullshit because they believe in mutation which most of the time, unfavorable for the mutated. And even if mutation occurred, the mutated always stays the same species before the mutation, save for some distorted looks, maybe.
Also, if evolution is true, there's no reason to form such a complex individual species since staying in a one unit cel is WAY better.
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Dude, the real world is physical, not cultural. Atheism is as much not of the real world as faith. What matters is what these beliefs make you do, physically - that's reality. That's what I was trying to say in another earlier post - if you can make an argument that religion is harmful, then you have a point and if it's any kind of argument it'll come with some evidence and you'll need some to counter it too, but if you're talking metaphysics you're not talking reality.
>Look up George Bush's faith-based initiatives
You're a fool if you believe he's doing it for the sake of faith. It's only an excuse.
>Look up the "dark age"
Catholics are to blame there. Don't put all Christians into a same boat.
>but that doesn't excuse religion for being what it is and causing what it does.
Shouldn't you be thankful of this peaceful religion? That you won't be sacrificed and your won't be heart eaten? That you won't be thrown to the lions while the aristocracy has orgies?
That's true, but only because we've accumulated collective experience over the centuries. The thought process is no different and all it takes to overturn all of that evidence is to deny the experience of others, even if there are many reasons why we don't usually do that.
>All it takes for we Atheists to be convinced that a God exists is for you to summon this 'God' of yours so that we can see him in physical form, that can be also heard and touched. That's all it takes.
God's not a genie from a bottle.
gtfo to /b/ with this shit
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni?
there is no god
You're focusing only on Catholicism there. Religion is in fact more than just the Roman Catholics, and focusing only on the largest US religion is fairly narrowminded. The larger the group, the more nutjobs it has. Once atheism gets huge, atheist nutjobs will abound.
Further, those are the morals set down by the religion. In any community, there will come to exist an established set of rules which dictate what is right and what is wrong. The fact that you're saying that their morals, their sense of right and wrong are flawed isn't really targeting how the belief in God or gods is harmful to human beings.
Regardless of what a people believe in, deity or otherwise, it can lead to negative moral values. Those who believe in only money will prize it above all else. Should we then decide that money should not exist? Or should we attempt to alter the moral code of those people?
Belief in God doesn't make people stupid. Blind belief does. However, blind followers exist not only for religion but for many other things as well. Zealots need not be merely religious.
Congratulations, sir. By posting this brilliantly thought-out critique of evolution on /a/, truly the premier forum for such discourse, you have done much to prove that evolution, in your case at least, has not in fact occurred.
And indeed, staying a unicellular organism would be acceptable; after all, judging by your presence her, amoeboid life can still post on 4chan.
THE THREAD ENDS HERE. STOP REPLYING.
>>11330551 here. Mutations are often advantageous. A simple explanation is because they can lead to resistance to a pathogen, e.g. an antibiotic that targets a functional molecule of a bacterial cell won't work on a strain of bacteria that has a similarly functional molecule but different in conformation and thus to which that antibiotic can't bind. Now imagine that the environment was saturated with that antibiotic: even if the mutated molecule was weaker in function, the mutated strain would prevail. This is probably why sickle-cell anemia is common in Africa: it grants some resistance to malaria. Most of living biomass is actually in the form of single-cell organisms, but multicellular organisms can provide an inner ecosystem which improves the survivability of all the cells participating, the theory goes I understand. Also, evolution in eukaryotic cells works much more though recombination than mutations and I don't see how you could really understand the process very well without understanding that mechanism.
>Shouldn't you be thankful of this peaceful religion?
The Emperor Constantine. The Spanish Inquisition (whom nobody expected). The Crusades. The Conquistadores. Fundie preachers today with their 'If you don't believe in the Bible you'll burn in Hell' psychological torture. Oh yeah, Christianity was & still is a peaceful religion all right. John Lennon in 'Imagine' said: 'Nothing to kill or die for/And no religion too'. Richard Dawkins has never harmed anyone in his life; he's never resorted to threats & legal action (Ted Faggard take note).
Your move, chuckles.
Show me an argument that religion is good.
also I meant "an example", not "an explanation". There are other reasons why mutations, and especially recombinations, could be advantageous.
i am roman catholic and i don't give a fuck about prayers, or going to the church
Christian morals are no more Christian morals than Relativity is an invention of mine just because I wrote a fucking paper on it.
Atheism doesn't give good people an excuse to do bad things. Religion does.
That's not a point I'm trying to argue, my point is that your argument is invalid.
You're ignoring all the Mother Teresas, volunteer workers, religious relief groups, and the youth groups who go to the homeless shelters just to talk to people who get ignored and spit on everyday to make them feel like they have human dignity again. You ignore them because these don't make interesting news stories or inflammatory headlines, and because the millions of people who do good works for religious reasons aren't asking for attention, UNLIKE the fundie minorities. Good job, doctor gross generalization.
Seriously; this thread is bad and you should all feel bad.
Pakistan and Israel would've been much better examples, they both owe their entire existence to religion and they're both shit.
Isn't your life better if you have something to hope for?
Like good health, prosperity, and that your family will do well even after you're gone? You can get hope from places other than religion.
You act as if there are no secular volunteer groups. At least secular groups do it for the good of the people, instead of for an opportunity to preach to the vulnerable.
>>religion isn't harmful
I wasn't going to get into this discussion but this comment is ridiculous. Many wars start because of religion. Religious hate causes tons of fights and deaths and genocide. Some catholic priests are pedophiles that rape children. And those are only some of the physical effects that can be proven. There are other harmful effects of religion I am not going to bother arguing because they are less tangible, like dampening your mind.