Dude the relationship chart has said "Friends" since the first one was released for the fucking original series. What's your point?
So it turns that Nanoha and Fate truly are only friends, and are both waiting for the right guy to come along.
In your face, yuri-tards. In your face, you fat fuck Ozaku. I told you all this months ago.
The chart says Nanoha wants to get married to someone and have 3 children
oh wait.. .IT DOESN'T!
It specifically mentions that Yuuno is like a father raising Vivio together with Nanoha, which upsets the Yurifags delusions.
Also no Amy on chart makes me sad.
IS THAT SUM SEASON 4?
it's not "like a father"
It says he continues to watch over Nanoha and Vivio's parent-child relationship, it says nothing about fatherhood or raising Vivio together with Nanoha.
There's nothing on here that leans either way, the same shit was in other relationship charts previously.
Erica Friedman must be doing cartwheels in her plus-sized grave.
>> In your face, you fat fuck Ozaku.
This is your fault for caring what yuri fangirls think (and I myself am I fan of yuri). Just today I was reading her review on Haibane Renmei and she said that her interpretation was that Rakka and Reki had loved each other in their past lives before they ended up in Glie (purgatory). I think I almost punched my screen.
Though you know what? Ozaku is actually pretty reasonable compared to most yuri shippers. I try not to actually read anything when I browse /u/ because they piss me off so much.
Everybody except deluded yuri-fags knew that already.
...Seriously? There is Rampant GEASS MANSEX FAGGOTRY raging all around /a/, and THIS is what you choose to bitch about?
Seriously, are you gay? It's okay, I won't judge. But quit whining about lesbians and facts. It interrupts my fapping.
Vita and Hayate have an extra connection.
ITT retards that still can't understand that the chart means nothing.
The anime will still deliver on NanohaXFate for season 4, surely. Just like they did for season 1, 2 and 3
YuunoXNanoha content only ever existed in season 1 and even then FateXNanoha had equal/more development that season.
If you're going to troll on this image just do Subaru/Teana.
7arcs only knows one thing
Erica Friedman? Wrong?
Friends -- with benefits
SO GAY FOR PROMOTING HETEROSEXUALITY?
Only if Yuuno could get more screen time to do some badass things, I'd be able to support his 1 way love for Nanoha.
also more Chrono. FFS who else was given up and let down every time he popped on screen. Every time he's about to do something cool he ends getting floored.
>>11324538 YuunoXNanoha content only ever existed in season 1
Guess you didn't watch the season 2 epilogue
...or listen to the audio dramas
...or read the manga
Nanoha took Yuuno's device
he can no longer be manly
in before image of nanoha blushing in episode 8
Does this chart even SHOW Romantic attachments?
All I can see is 'family' and 'friends' So it doesn't actually prove any Romantic attachments, or lack of.
nothing in the manga that the anime doesn't already handle.
Audio CDs are not canon
and lol epilogue
Nanoha's body langauge clearly says that she wants Yuuno to give her hot dickings
this is like a rehash of the thread we had earlier so instead of that maybe we should post some pics
loli Arf is fucking adorable
Not only that, but Subaru and Tia aren't even linked by 'friend' lines.
Sorry OP, but this chart fails. And hard.
>>Does this chart even SHOW Romantic attachments
shonen series = no romance ever
I think Bleach is further along in character romance/relationships than Nanoha.
ITT deluded yuri-fag
>Audio CDs are not canon
The denial is strong in this one.
Everyone Loves da ferretboy.
not the point
oh wow an epilogue in season 2
Just saying the anime will keep delivering on NanohaXFate every season. Can you post some pages from the manga with Yuuno content.
I like how Teana and Subaru put on the exact opposite sides of the chart the furthest away from each other.
Well, the chart is 100% official. Subaru and Teana are working in completely different places afterwards, and they aren't the 3 aces and thus connected to show a link between all the 3 groups. It's not like they suddenly aren't friends.
So Fate and Nanoha are straight. Big deal, there's lots of other canon yuri in that series.
Also, Hayate is pretty much omnisexual
IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
Enjoy your fake stuff. The only one that's for real in Nanoha is Subaru and Teana.
Fate and Nanoha fans, I feel sorry for you guys. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WE GOT A REAL ONE, YOU GOT FAKE SHIT.
I beg to differ. Chrono's Married now.
But still, that just proves that nothing is proven, and it's completely open to interpretation. Fate/Nanoha shippers can have their lesbian sex and eat it, too.
And Yuuno sympathizers can...um, keep dreaming?
Season 2 epilog showed Yuuno being entirely unrequited.
We can only guess why.
Amy and Chrono should have finally slapped some spine into him in StrikerS.
>>Audio CDs are not canon
Actually I want (or maybe I don't if it turns into a shitfest) to know what /a/ thinks about this. To me, audio CDs don't seem canon. Or maybe I just don't want them to since they tend to be pure fanservice and sometimes totally ruin otherwise decent characters (see: Shizuru from Mai Hime).
So, canon or not canon?
Can someone post the manga images with nanohaXYuuno content. Man typing that X shit really makes me feel gay.
Raaage. Signum and Anyone but Agito or Hayate is wrong. Wrong, Wrong, WRONG. Also Shamal and/or Vita, I suppose.
Nanoha ones have always been canon.
So is the Vita-Hayate link something like "fuck-toy", or what?
I'll bet Yunno hooks up with one of the androids.
Zafira doesn't get to be a person even in charts like this now.
The Nanoha series is based off a hentai game, with penis plunging into vagina
I believe it says Vita cuddles Hayate or something.
The end of A's (normal time, not the five years later epilogue) had Nanoha and Yuuno as the last two together, with Nanoha talking about how she wanted to spend more time with him.
Anime will keep delivering on yuri love and that is all I need
I like it. Besides he already has Signum on a -neesan basis.
why is it that homofags can get away with flooding code gayass shit, but the heterofags only come out screaming when someone mentions nanoha?
Why can't yuuno ever do anything badass
Signum isn't gay.
Wait... This is Vita... With glasses?
No, that's Nanoha's sister
Wow I completely forgot, Nanoha has a family on earth.
Because we just ignore that Gayass shit. Can't ignore Nanoha.
Because Code Geass is shit.
Men that hate lesbians but like homo shit
think real hard about this one
Yuuno doesn't marry nanoha LULZ
Zafira can't be that cool
Fuck yeah, THE GUARDIAN BEAST ZAFILA!
Vita... With glasses!
"cuddles"? say no more squire, nudge nudge, wink wink!
Lookin' kinda SMALL there Zafira.
canon straight that was once lesbian that was once straight
100 posts in 30 mins
Lookin kinda MOE there, Otto.
Zafira gets his fair share of booty.
Why are we so awesome?
Life as a dog isn't so tough. I'm sure Hayate can take the knot.
Because Chrono is the only that actually ahs any awesome in him.
Nanoha is a fucking sexist anime
The funny thing to me is that in StrikerS, when they're living together and sleeping in the same bed and doing the whole "Vivio has two mommies" thing, Nanoha and Fate's relationship seems the most platonic and pedesatrian compared to all the gushing and yuri'ing and blushing in original and A's.
Plus, to what I assume is /a/'s yuri loving horror, the one time Nanoha and Yuuno really come face to face and talk in StrikerS its all "Blush Blush oh we are SO in raburabu with each other".
I think that's maybe the idea
Well they have to equate to the 25 episodes of Nanoha and Fate development so they threw in some blush there for yuuno fans.
never mind the tomato heads that was nanoha in season 1 and 2 when she talked to Fate
Yuri fans can dodge everything.
I like Vice.
I wouldn't mind so much if it weren't for the fact that ninety-nine percent of Nanoha fanfiction is badly written NxF.
After ten years of fucking like bunnies, they would have settled down like the old married couple we see in StrikerS
Fuck your Yuri pairings or any other shit, Zafira doesnt get the respect he deserves.
oh sorry I meant 25 episodes of NanohaXFate and TeanaXSubaru
That there's your problem.
You know what the biggest problem to 7arcs ever hooking Nanoha or Fate up with a guy is? That the *Japanese* fans already decided they're pretty much married and that Yuuno is a joke of a character.
What Nanoha and Fate development? They share a room with a huge wacky bed because Rein is nuts, and with the "two mothers" thing they openly state they mean god-mother when it comes to Fate.
Both of them have their own respective families and are totally separate.
While we're on this subject,
Anyone seen the official manga where the girls invite Yuuno to their onsen trip and he refuses? MASSIVE FAGGOT right there, I still cannot believe it.
I wouldn't mind it so much if Yuuno ever actually did anything worth a damn.
DO SOMETHING BADASS FOR FUCKS SAKE
his glasses are also pretty faggy
basically none of this show would have happened if it wasn't for Yuuno.
Nanoha would glady let Yuuno pound her at full force if he actually grows a spine. She owes him everything.
The Nanoha fate development found in season 1, 2 and 3.
Unrequited love is all Yuuno's got (I guess he's also got maybe 5 mins of screen time. Let the anime keep delivering.
You Yuuno fans can have your off screen love story while us Yuri fans can have our on screen "HEY LETS SLEEP TOGETHER IN OUR UNDERWEAR" scenes.
Erio is no different.
The difference with Elio is that Caro and more initiative and either drags him along or walks in on him when he can't escape.
The difference with Elio is that Caro has more initiative and either drags him along or walks in on him when he can't escape.
Yeah Yuuno's fail pretty much set the story in motion. I mean he fails so hard some random girl could handle his device better than him. Come to think of it nanoha is always cleaning up after Yuuno's fail.
"oh what's that Yuuno? you can't teleport everyone out at the same time? well okay fuck that let me just break the barrier while I have an arm through my chest"
I really want to be a Nanoha/Yuuno fan. It's just that Yuuno is such a boring character.
>>11325314 Nanoha would glady let Yuuno pound her at full force if he actually grows a spine. She owes him everything.
He'd have a free pass if he'd just man up and press the issue. Nanoha is just dense and oblivious.
Vastly superior Mahou Shojo anime.
Yuuno is just all-defense, so an offensive weapon like Raising Heart wasn't very suited to him.
Hell he held his own against Knights without any kind of device.
Too bad StrikerS scrapped the concept of support mages like Yuuno, Shamel and Arf/Zafira.
well that's how couples act once they get married
That was the biggest problem with StrikerS, it was like it was set in an alternate Universe that completely ignored half the rules and 90% of the set-up of the previous Nanoha series.
in reality, Fate and Nahoha are still on earth going to college
"I'm sorry Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate. While it's true that you;re the most powerful fucking things in the known Universe and can level dimensions at will and single handedly solve any problem that may arise to threaten the Multiverse...weee're gonna have to cap your power down to nil cause, lol, you might destroy everyone and everything you're trying to protect.
Nanoha: "Uhmm....isn't that the reaosn for support-mage-bubbles that have until now stopped all damage from actually occurring and thus not necesitated our massive Nerfing? In fact, isn't our massive nerfing just so that you have a credible reasons for (A) the new characters not being VASTLY overshadowed by our immense power and (B) to even have a credible excuse for any threat or enemy to appear on the series not to be vaporized by us in an instant?"
if Vice had that kind of chance he'd be in there like a ferret. Stupid cowardly Yuuno.
The passage of ten years changes things, but I don't think it conflicted with anything.
It's differences were logical and explained.
You have to be joking, StrikerS was FILLED to the brim with plothole, retcon Bullshit that completely contradicted everything the earlier series set up or downreight made no sense.
Examples among which:
- The massive nerfing mentioned a second ago, and it's related dissapearance of support mages.
- Basically a complete retcon/rewrite of the Midchildan and T&S Administration infrastructure, changin it from an impotent and pretty much useless in any crisis organization to an evil empire controlled by the shadows by brains in jars that had dictated everything that happened in season 1 and 2 in a massive "Just as Keikaku".
- Why in god's name was Arf not with Fate?
- Why in God's name would Nanoha abandon Earth and join the Midchildan army, as opposed to the multiverse spannning, protect everyone T&S Admin?
Many many many others.
They should have just had Nanoha be in high school instead of this time skip bullshit.
Well, there was Zest, though he was criminally underused. I like how he kicked ass even though he had one foot in the grave.
maybe s4 will go back and cover that
And while we're on the subject of StrikerS issues, why and where did Jail get his power to just up and mindraep everyone he saw into unquestionably serving him?
The combat cyborgs, despite supposedly having free will and, one would think, realising that Jail was a psychotic, demented douchebag who didn't care about them and would just as soon destroy them and use them as clone dumpsters, that they would say Fuck you" and go find happy lives.
Instead they simply follow his orders happily and unquestioning (save for one brief moment of guilt from Dieci), but then when it's over they;re like, "oh, we and Jail were evil and bad?! No SHIT?! We'll we're gonna be good now! yupperee!"
And then they get the same get out of Jail (pun intended) bullshit that Fate and the Velka Knights got. At least Quattro was just batshit insane.
Oh and how DID Quattro survive Nanoha's fucking booster 3, hyper excellion, shoot mode, starlight breaker that raeped the Universe with no damage, let alone not being incinerated into quantam particles?
It wasn't just hard rules breaking either. There was a broader abandonment of the themes behind the first two as well.
While they made a point of stepping away from a purely magical girl show previously, it also wasn't entirely some mecha military drama/politics thing. The first two focused on a few characters and their interactions, while StrikerS was like JAG in space or something. They also completely went against the whole "screw the rules, my power level is over 1.6 million" which made the first two seasons a lot of fun, in favor of "follow the rules and play with the team so people don't get hurt."
I always assumed there was just a "loyal to daddy" thing since he probably had a hand in shaping them to the people they are now. As for the "get out of jail" thing where some of the cyborgs choosed to make amends and reform themselves... all I got is that the Nanoha universe is very pragmatic at times.
As for Quattro not dying, she found the seconds to run away from the main core of the beam and avoided being fried like Fate was by SLB in s1.
I think you're exaggerating the power of the beam spam too much, along with >>11325581 (Aside: Yeah, the limiters were fucking stupid). Yes, the three aces are damn powerful, but they aren't going to punch holes in space-time or vaporize baddies. Even Nanoha's beams only seem to either crispy fry or brutally shove opponents around.
I give points for StrikerS doing something quite different; an act you don't see too often. I'm guessing 7arcs thought they are making their franchise bigger and better.
Instead, it backfired and 7arcs added bloat. There were some worthwhile things added (a few that stick out for me are Subara, Teana, and Cogito for Signum), but otherwise quite a number of useless/questionable things were added.
Thanks for actually replying serious, but I definitely disagree with your assessments.
I was assuming this "loyalty to daddy" thing was going on near the beginning as well, but only one of the cyborgs (I forget who, I believe it was Tre') ever mentions or in any way seems to consider the idea of the Cyborgs as "family" with Jail as a father. And she's says it twice in regards to FATE of all people and not to any of the other cyborgs. In point of fact, most of the cyborgs don't seem to mention, interact with, or give two shits about Jail really, they're just "following orders" without questioning them.
Things are made more complicated when, later on with Lutecia, even Zest to a degree, Vivio, and especially Ginga just seem to get randomly mindraeped and controlled by Jail or associates whenever they please, implying that the cyborgs are not really acting on their own free will to begin with, but are just "programmed", erasoing the whole free will thing they had going on. Likewise, it's also implied near the end that the cyborgs were not created by Scaglietti at all, but were rather just kidnapped and were once real women on their own (like Lutecia's mom, who was in a cyborg tube as well).
Chrono and Fate love affair in season 4.
Likewise, at the end, after the JS Inbcident is over, its like the cyborgs are just like "heehee, oops, we're sorry, we were bad, we'll play nice now", as if what just happened was no big deal at all and continuing the 2nd assertion that Jail was controlling them and with his defeat they were free to be themselves.
As for the 2nd half:
Quattro was hit point blank and center by a beam something like 30 feet in diameter. With the limiter removed, at Nanoha's full power, the AMF or whatever down, and with a move more powerful then anything seen in the previous two Nanoha series after a full ten years of experience and training.
When she hit Fate with SLB in season 1 she was infinitely weaker, and actively trying not to kill or even hurt Fate as she just wanted to talk (as opposed to her stated murderious intent with Quattro). I'm definitely not overestimating Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate's powers. In season 1 it's explicitly stated that Nanoha and Fate's weapons clashing with NO MOVES ACTIVATED is causing a space/time distortion, let alone the various times they state that them exercizing their powers recklessly is terrible for the fabric of time and space in season 1 and 2.
The only thing more powerful then the combined might of the three "aces" is the arc en'ciel. Other then that, and MAYBE Chrono, the three of them are supposedly the three strongest non Lost Logia powers in the Nanoha verse.
Likewise, none of the opponents in StrikerS even compare to what they were facing in original and A's, and had the limiters and AMF BS not been present, and the girls not been Nerf'ed, Nanoha and co. would have disintegrated Jail and crew from moment 1.
Also, Nanoha's final attack penetrated God knows how many layers of whatever the hell the cradle of the Saint was made off like melting butter. Quattro had no defense activated and no AMF. Are you implying that the organic tissue of her body, and even the metal endoskeleton or whatever is stronger and more durable then the OVER 9000!!1!! fet of superadamantium or whatever the cradle was built of?
Quattro deserved to die, fucking bitch.
Oh yeah... Ginga. Fuck. This is what happens when I don't care enough. Maybe it was Quattro pulling the strings on those characters? That might explain alot.
And here to. My memory of the first two seasons are far to hazy and unrefined to remember such dialog, at least by myself. Heck, I can't recall what Chrono said when he interrupted the fight.
Good points. Makes me wish I had the episode handy to watch right now.
So... shit I got nothing. She walked a bit away from the dead center of the wall-punching beam and only got KOed. Chop that up to some stupid aversion to Nanoha killing some one.
Well, then. That's more bloat for StrikerS.
>Nanoha: "Uhmm....isn't that the reaosn for support-mage-bubbles that have until now stopped all damage from actually occurring
They didn't stop anything in Nanoha 1, in which areas were fucked over by her fights, and a large part of the city in that tree incident. They only really kept the damage in that small area/others out of the area.
Besides this, Nanoha was able to break the barriers with a Starlight Breaker at age 9, while severely drained and wounded AND without ANY of her upgrades that she got later.
She was able to use FIVE of them AT ONCE under heavy suppression at age 19. Plot or not, "you might destroy everyone and everything you're trying to protect." is a somewhat valid excuse.
The problem is the real excuse is "lol only so much awesome is allowed in a single squad."
I need more Vita porn.
Don't we all?
>In season 1 it's explicitly stated that Nanoha and Fate's weapons clashing with NO MOVES ACTIVATED is causing a space/time distortion,
They were clashed around the jewel seed and were causing it to activate.
SLB's power is variable as it relies on how much residual magical energy from previous attacks is left in the surrounding environment. Divine buster only uses her own magical power. So to say that the SLB in S1 is infinitely weaker is not really accurate, Fate and Nanoha were fighting for quite some time before she used it.