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Didn't they say it wasn't going to be a retelling? The least they could have done is given him a different personality. Whys he got to be a whiny bitch again?
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Eva isn't Eva without emo Shinji.
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With any luck, in later installments, they'll have Manga Shinji and not Shit Shinji. Manga Shinji actually had his moments. Emo didn't.
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>whiny bitch
>I can't handle realistic characters with realistic reactions in my anime. I need shonen leads from cartoons for 12-year-olds that NEVAR GIVE UP and WILL ALLWAYS FIGHT.
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Because Shini can never be redeemed because he jerked off over Asuka and let her die.
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IT'S THE SAME SHIT
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>>11320915

I FIGHT FOR MY FRIENDS.
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ORANGE SKIN
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>>11320933
cmon, admit it, you'd do the same thing.
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>>11320939

He fights because he wants people to be nice to him. Fuck.
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>>11320939

See >>11320959

He fights so that he can have friends to fight for.
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So this looks like a simple remake. Gianax is going down hill.

>>11320915
GTFO, go listen to some Linken Park.
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>>11320908

Damn, anyone have that one manga page where Shinji loses it and nearly punches Gendo?
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>>11320936
NU UH LOOK ITS DIFFERENT
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>>11320982

Bitches don't know 'bout mah Ramiel.
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Is this damn movie subbed yet?
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>>11320982
gb2 Naruto for shitty leads
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>>11320982
Hi there.
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Gainax should replace Shinji with Noriko or Simon.
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>>11321042

It's been subbed like a week ago. Fuck.
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>>11321065

Maybe you should shut up.
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>>11320915

>I can't handle realistic characters with realistic reactions in my anime. I need shonen leads from cartoons for 12-year-olds that Never gonna give you up
>Never gonna let you down
>Never gonna run around and desert you
>Never gonna make you cry
>Never gonna say goodbye
>Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

Fixed.
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Too busy staring at Ramiel to notice other characters. ITS LIKE BEING ON LSD, LOOK AT THOSE ANGLES. THEY ARE TELLING ME I CAN FLY.
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.>>11321049
Why? Im already at Eva? No need to go to Mc Donals for cheap food when you're standing outside Taco Bell.
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>>11320982

Angels turn into a sea of blood when they die.
Eva 01's hands are white, not black.
NERV staff thinks they have Lilith, as opposed to Adam in the Central Dogma... but it's neither.
Lilith is on the moon, not in NERV's Central Dogma.
The Dead Sea Scrolls seem to revolve around Shinji.
Kaoru's "The third again? You never change."


It's not a remake. It's a sequel.
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1st one is out
meh its just a retelling of the series but with aded improvements on the animation, otherwise nothing ive seen before
damn gainex, get over it with the whole eva thing
speaking of eva, theres a new manga series based on the eva series and im not talking about angelic days
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OP is a faggot. The characters ALWAYS say that Shinji pilots because he is told. But, each time he always decides to pilot out of his own will. First time for Rei, second for his classmates, and the third especially for everyone. After he gets hit by Ramiel, they really EMPHASIZE using the dialog between Misato and Gendo that Shinji pilots out of his own will power. Sure he's human, he whines, makes "johns" (excuses), and is really a wuss. That I admit. But you could more easily see his development into a more compassionate human being. The whole sequence of him rising up and crawling back to the beam rifle, the music drudging as he struggles against the odds, and all the people on the ground giving their all trying to ready for the next shot. It was magnificent. If one couldn't see the improvement in the over all theme conveyed in NGE, you DOUBLE NIGGER.
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I'm an Eva fan (to the extent that I appreciate it for what it is) and I've always been opposed to the remake. Blatant milking and simplistic reaction to continued criticism. Eva ended in 1996, digging it up serves no purpose, no matter how many superfluous cgi bits they throw in.
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>>11320858
Who the fucking idiot watched remake for Shinji? Remake was awesome because of some strange shining geometric object of DOOM.
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>>11321096

You've added nothing to the discussion. Please go away before you start getting trolled after ever post you make.
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>>11321125
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKK
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>>11321115
Well you beat me to it. Anyway where is my Ramiel doujins!

drill drill drill~
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>>11321108

Your loss.
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>>11321115
Well you beat me to it. Anyway where are my Ramiel doujins!

drill drill drill~
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>>11321148
Looking kind YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! there.
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>>11320933
It was him getting Misato killed that made him dead to me. Fuck Shinji.
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>>11321148
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I want to see simon fight against that polygon.
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>>11321098
It could look that way to you, the unintellegent. But if you really watched the show you would notice that he pilots out of fear. Everything about his persona is fear. Fear of death, fear of pain, fear of rejection, yada yada yada. I don't recall a single situation where his motivation wasn't fear. So keep looking up to him, maby you will shit your pants soon and become him.
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>>11321001
You know I think her tits are just a little bit bigger.
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So to restate. NGE 1.0 was good because it refined its technique in conveying the overall themes in NGE. Those that didn't notice are just spoon-fed fucks that can't go into any media analysis. It cut out excess that didn't contribute to the meaning of the story and re did the fights in a way that would enhance the story. Though many people say it was unnecessary, an author would sometimes would like to go back to tweak and perfect their work. I believe that NGE movie series will be a wonderful piece of work that needs to be done.
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sage
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>>11321085
FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU
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>>11321098
It could look that way to you, the unintelligent. But if you really watched the show you would notice that he pilots out of fear. Everything about his persona is fear. Fear of death, fear of pain, fear of rejection, yada yada yada. I don't recall a single situation where his motivation wasn't fear. So keep looking up to him, maby you will shit your pants soon and become him.
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Any Ramiel gifs yet?
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>>11321236

He fights because he wants people to be nice to him. Fuck.
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>>11321280
Fear of rejection.
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>>11321331

He fights because he wants people to be nice to him. Fuck.
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sage
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>>11321354
I smirked.
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trolls trollan trolls trollan trolls because eva is DEEP
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>>11321280
WoW. I suppose you are so thick that you convinced your self that his consistent trembling every time ANYTHING happens is due to excitement?
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>>11321331
I thought he also piloted it so his father would praise him.
Gendo had already rejected him, so there wasn't that kind of fear at least. Just a simple wish for his father's kind words.
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>>11321238
How about a Rei gif?
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>>11321232
Just because I analyze a work doesn't mean I suck it's cock. I just like making relations and messages that the creators believe to have an universal truth. Sure, one could make the argument that Shinji pilots out of free. When one re-watches the scenes that were pivotal in each battle, he made a decisive decision that would have changed the out come if he "truly" was in fear. Sachiel, if he truly was in fear and return to his "square-yard of space" he could have just run away and leave it to Rei. This time, he was compelled by hatred of his father and for compassion for Rei. The 4th angel, if he truly piloted out of fear he would have followed Misato's instructions and retreated. It would have made sense. But out of vengeance, he killed the 4th. Ramiel is just self explanatory. Shinji had to pilot to fight for everyone. Rei stated that she had to fight for everyone and Shinji felt envious of her. Also, Shinji piloted for the sake of Rei and especially when she was protecting him on the second shot. Hence why he wanted the beam rifle to hurry up so he could stop Rei's pain. Out of a sense of love, he fought to protect Rei and finishes off that statement with him opening up the Plug with his own hands. He cried in sadness and happiness for Rei and just told her to smile.
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Ramiel made this fucking movie.

Ramiel needs his own anime
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>>11321432
yes
yes
YES!
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>>11321432
He would make the best music videos.
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Eva's been "analyzed" enough to fill the harddrives of every nerdrager here. Stop trying, guys.

After all, we have Rei tits, Ramiel, a gatling gun so big its casings destroy buildings with sheer weight, and a rifle so awesome all of Japan has to be blacked out to power it. No one cares about the "condensed" plot rehash.
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>>11321398
That's more like the series. The general themes were altered a bit. As I stated before, the themes are better handled in this one. The main theme in this one is "there is hope in the darkest of times". The previous ones dealt with self identity, love and loneliness, and acceptance. Shinji only truly overcame his problems in the series was in 25 & 26 and the EoE where he decided to let everyone back.
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Sigh, wouldn't it be awesome if this wasn't a retelling and to make everyone happy Rei strangled EmoShinji in the first 20 mins and made Rei and Asuka the MCs? God that would have been Epic.
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>>11321520
kawrou as the main character

BELIEVE IT
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Shinji isn't particularly whiny or emo, he just isn't hotblooded or obnoxiously boisterous like many retarded shonen characters.

When the father who abandoned you asks you to pilot a giant robot against a monster tearing apart the city, something you aren't allowed to train for, which causes you to feel the pain of the machine during combat, then continue to fight for your life every day and surrounds you in death and indifference, are you going to be a badass?

No. You aren't. You're Anonymous. You ARE Shinji Ikari.
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>>11321490
>>11321490
>>11321490
>>11321490
>>11321490
THIS
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The reason a lot of this movie was simply taken from the tv series is because the tv series was damn well animated in the beginning. Once we get to the 'non-existant budget' episodes, the movies will really begin to differentiate from the tv series in terms of animation quality.
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>>11321401
why would you even bother to write all that?
this is /a/. We are talking about eva. You can't answer trolls seriously. Thats how they win.

Anyway, leaving that aside, i agree with you.
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>>11321490
I scoff. "Condensed"? I say "Enhanced".
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>>11321565
I throw away my logic and kick reason to the curb.
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So why is it that the majority of /a/ seems to like Welcome to the NHK and can identify with Satou but hates Shinji?

If you think about it, Shinji actually has a reason to be really depressed and whiny. Satou does not.

Like it or hate it, it's pretty interesting that Anno was able to subvert the role of the stereotypical hero and still have so much success with his story.
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>>11321536
He crys more then ANY male lead, ever in anime history. He turns down great opportunitys to get some ass. He doesn't have the balls to stand up to anyone, fuck that penguins got bigger balls them him. Face if, your idol shares more attributes with a weak willed woman then he does a man.
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>>11321565
>>11321401
same person
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>>11321590
>Anno was able to subvert the role of the stereotypical hero

"It is your destiny!" "Okay."
"It is your destiny!" "BAWWWWWWW. Okay."

MASTERFUL SUBVERSION.
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>>11321493
>>The main theme in this one is "there is hope in the darkest of times"

I like how you phrased that, I think that's definitely true. In relation to that, I liked how the climax of the movie was Shinji realizing that he's not actually alone. His decision to fight Ramiel and his efforts to keep shooting were a lot more powerful for me than in the TV series.

I'm interested to know what the focus of the next movie will be. Any guesses on how much they'll cover?
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>>11321619
Believe it or not, we are not the same person. I am the one who actually wouldn't bother to feed the trolls.
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>>11321650
Oh kermit, there's no need to get scrunchy, it's just Eva. Next movie, there'll be fanservice.
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>>11321683
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I can visualize Shinji in a domestic abuse situation. Cant you see him curled up in the corner shivering, naked, bleeding and crying. With his wife in the background

I thought I thought I told you to Sit down when you pee? I suppose you need another lesson.

Shinji crys more.
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>>11321596

All avians have relatively small testicles since they're up near the kidneys when compared to mammalian testicles.
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>>11321596

He cries when he has a reason to cry, which is a lot, because tons of bad shit happens to him, which, if you were a tramatized 14 year old boy, you would cry about, too. Name ONE instance where you wouldn't have cried when he did. Stop kidding yourself.

And turning down ass? Stop being a preteen. When did anyone offer him sex? Never. MAYBE Misato that once.

All of these generic complaints about Shinji have no credibility, because they come off as being the same "LOL, if I were Shinji, I woulda fucked her!" comments you hear from ten year olds who watch the show, kidding themselves into thinking they would do any different.
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>>11321650

It's possible to take ANY concept and distill it down to 3 lines and a Kermit the frog picture. That doesn't mean you should do it.
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>>11321682
Exactly what a person who got caught complementing him self would say.
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>>11321663
Zeruel will be the next Ramiel. Bardiel is also confirmed in, along with a bunch of weirdass things called "Adams." And random flying crosses.
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>>11321698
Yet he is the only one BAWWWING everything so much as a little dust gets in his eyes.
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>>11321700
Man, i can't believe the amount of failure around here.
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>>11321724

Not what I meant but I laughed anyway.

By the way, what does /a/ think about Misato already knowing about Lilith. It seems like it kind of takes away some of the pity for her about being kept in the dark. Although I assume she still doesn't know about the Rei clones or Instrumentality so we can still have that "oh shit" moment.
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>>11321724
Zeruel was badass as it was, with the amazing paper arms
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It has been so long since I saw one of these threads. Making me feel a kid again.
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>>11321596
I'd love to see you stand up to the same kind of people at his age. You might try once and it might work on a nice person where doing so doesn't matter, but you'll soon realize in the world of adults you hold no power, and Shinji did try with out success(Toji).
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>>11321698

Every instance. I would get in that fuck awesome robot thing and own the SHIT out of whatever. What the fuck kind of pathetic nerd where you at that age to be more of a coward than I was. God damn.
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I'M BRINGING EMO BACK
YOU OTHER EMOS DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANGST

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVsz9KBSQ8Q
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>>11321779
Instrumentality already happened.

Also, that's not Lilith. See also: moon.
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>>11321808
>HURR HURR

ITT Internet tough guys.
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>>11321808

Internet tough guy detected.

When the robot you're piloting feeds the damage into your nerves and puts you in a coma when it decides to take over for you or absorb you, you see how well you keep your eyes dry.

The average Anon couldn't even get through Army basic training, let alone something like that. Stop pretending you're tough, Anonymous. You're the same weak nerd I am.
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>>11321808
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Don't bother explaining things. There's trolls here and there will always be trolls, especially among Evangelion threads. And anybody who says Shinji whines this and cries about that actually do like the series + movies, they just don't understand him because they've never gone through a single thing like that in their lives, so they can't really understand. Its like trying to convince farmers that LHC isn't going to destroy the world.
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>>11321699
Except it's true. You can defend every one of Shinji's actions all you like, up to and including jacking off on a comatose German, but he plays the stereotypical naive hero with great destiny role to a tee, plus more angst.
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>>11321856

Er... what? Do explain. Or is this some crazy theory about how this is actually the sequel to EoE and it's all happening again.
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>>11321864
Cry more faggot.
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>>11321876
I would love being absorbed into an eva. I would get to be a giant robot.
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>>11321876

Army Basic Training is easy.
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>>11321928
Giant monster more like since EVAs are organic
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I would probably pussy out faster than Shinji if I was in his position at 14... but I mean if I had the opportunity NOW. I would kick some ass.
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series would've been better if shinji was a girl.
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>>11321968
The main point is that I would be a giant killing...cyborg thing. Only drawback would be inablility to have sex, although I guess sticking someone into that LCL plug could let me do something similar.
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>>11322015
Yeah, agreed.

Feh, people are barely sentient at 14. That's why we need less teenage protagonists in general.
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>I would probably pussy out faster than Shinji if I was in his position at 14... but I mean if I had the opportunity NOW. I would lick some ass.
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I don't know about you guys, but I thought Shinji showed a semblance of a spine during the Ramiel sequence.
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>>11322029
Could always get absorbed into unit 1 or 2. Then you can have hot dickings with a MILF.

It'd be kinda weird.
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The Rebuild is a fucking piece of shit. Flush it.
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Anno's still in charge. I haven't read the manga, but my impression is that Sadamoto's the one you go to if you want Shinji showing even the slightest amount of spine.
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>>11321928

Have fun floating in a world made out of scribbles for enternity.
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>>11321928
>>I would love being absorbed into an eva. I would get to be a puddle of tang inside a giant monster.

Fixed.
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>>11322029
Except for the fact that once you're absorbed you won't be yourself anymore.
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Ive seen some people posting about how Shinji fought for his friends, and for people to be nice to him, which is partly true, but I get the feeling that he just doesn't want to die and does what most animals do when confronted with possible death, which is do whatever it fucken takes to live.

I know you guys are gonna say I'm full of shit but if you have ever been in a near death experience (accident) or had something fuck up in you body that you had to fight for your life you know what I mean. No matter how much you want to die when deaths casts his shadow on you you do what ever the fuck you can to live... even if you regret it when you actually make it.
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Damn, I think i see why so much of /a/ loves shinji, he is /a/. Shinji is exactly what /a/ anon were like at 14. Spineless emofags. They only defend him because they are in denial of how pathetic they were and likely still are. You all were the guys that i picked on in high school. When you were playing ADnD, i was getting laid. Ohh well, its not your fault, blame your parents, you are a product of your surroundings after all.
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>>11320858

Little Shinji still whinning, huh?
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Anonymous couldn't sync with an Evangelion, anyway. Nor could he fit into the entry plug.

You're better off in a Ganman.
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>>11322176
At that age I was actually taking biochemistry courses at Neumann college. So I doubt you picked on me, considering I skipped over high school.
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Saging because 4chan users arent suited to talk about Eva.
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>>11322137

This has happened to me in a fight. My opponent had me in a choke-hold and I was losing air quick. I thought I was going to die if he kept on doing it and I got a MASSIVE adrenaline rush and was able to suddenly get out of his grip. It was like going SSJ for nerd term.
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>>11322176

Oh, Anonymous. Denial is such a powerful force, isn't it?
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>>11322176

I was saving my Misato facepalm pic for a post that was truly worthy. Congratulations.
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>>11322176
Emo didn't exist in 1995.
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>>11322137
You must have a "survive" geass put on you
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>>11322176
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>>11322207

Why, exactly? Are you some kind of elite anime fanatic that is apart of a secret group of fellow elite anime nerds that are over 30 years old?
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>>11322243
Fight or flight response

Look it up on Wikipedia, I helped write that article
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>>11322196
You were pretty whiny yourself, you know. But you grew something of a spine, and hell, even went wild with superpower-fueled ego once. So I forgive you.

>>11322176
Successful troll is successful.
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Shinji is a emo fagget pussy that cuts himself at night and always runs away.
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>>11322275
Thats right, Because you can be on /a/ at age 15 and not be a failure at life. But to be on /a/ at 30 and be an Elite Anime Nerd, you have achieved true failure, failure even GOD didn't imagine. The angels cant even weep for you, their disgust is overwhelming.
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What's up, bitches?
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>>11321925
troll detected!!
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>>11322495
I can't tell if you're attempting to be serious or sarcastic, but either way you're a faggot.
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>>11322535
Did you go through army basic training and lose an eye or something?

I'm not agreeing, but that's not really a troll.
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the whole situation with shinji moving into misato's apartment makes me feel like such a faggot, because i acted like that for most of my fucking life. and i didnt have to pilot a giant robot.
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Its a good thing i already saw this show. I can fast forward past all Shinjis Emofaggotry to the action scenes. The special effects are make the download worth it.
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Its a good thing i already saw this show. I can fast forward past all Shinjis Emofaggotry to the action scenes. The special effects make the download worth it.
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>>11322927
I love this part with the Diamond angel. It feels good watching him in such extreme pain. They do a much better job animating his agony. The silver lining.



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