would you like Shana even if she was a tsundere, delicious flat chested adult?
Isn't she a mature, flat chested adult?
Oh yes, I would.
Dude, she's like 1000 years old or something.
I'd like her best if she had big breasts.
As long as she keeps her DFC, any age is fine.
I'd love her so much more if she wasn't Tsundere. Keep the DFC please
No, then Kugimiya Rie couldn't voice her.
Samefag. There are no more than 1 healthy lover at anytime on /a/.
lol didn't think of it this way
Samefag. There is no more than 1 healthy lover at anytime on /a/.
sage for shitna
Loli is more than just DFC. I just like things in small packages. If she was older, and more mentally mature, but physically the same age as always, then that's fine. If she's just a flat adult, then it doesn't do all that much for me.
Of course. I can sacrifice the loli, but I could never give up the DFC.
sage for what?
I'm a healthy lover but DFC works too.
Am I an IDORT yet?
dfc shana is hot regardless of age
Lies and slander. I love both healthy and dfc. PARDAROX?!?
She is old. She doesn't age. MY DREAM!
Twintail Shana is HOT.
Growing up is good.
Where is everyone getting this Shana is old stuff from?
I thought she really wasn't older than Yuuji?
Anyone know her estimated/confirmed age?
also season 1
THERE ARE NO HEALTHY LOVERS. ONLY TROLLS.
nobody dies in shana
I watched Season 1 but I don't remember them clearly stating how long Shana had been a Flame Haze.
1000 years old is unlikely and old is vague.
When did this scene happen?
All I remember is it saying or implying she had been for a very long time.
I think it's when yuji's mom is sick.
oh yeah, I remember now
Shana = Bleach
Not that long.
Remember when she first became one? The setting seemed be within the last 20 years.
Yeah, I too thought Shana was a new and relatively inexperienced Haze. This Alistor's conversation with Chigusa.
Shana became a Flame Haze between the age of 9 and 11 it seems.
Hell the reason she uses a sword is supposedly so good at it is because She cannot use her flame like Normal Flame Hazes should and would do with experience.
Which is part of the reason why Friagne couldn't off her with Trigger Happy until the last moment.
I have a Shana-related question.
Is the movie accurate to the novel? I was surprised that Alastor ended up being summoned for the fight against the hunter dude. If it is accurate, what was the novel-version of the anime's ending?
That was on a magical island... with a castle right?
movie is just the anime which seems to be pretty truthful to the l novels
Some Floating piece of land relatively close to japan.
Got the first 2 Novels and the Friagne event followed the novels almost exactly.
Remember Alastor was forced out by Friagne's Gun.
The movie just covers one arc more accurately than the anime did.
It's more true to the novels than the anime was.
The ending of the movie (Alastor being summoned, Yuji discovering he has the Reiji Maigo, etc.) is mostly faithful to the novel. There are changes earlier on though, for instance Margery shows up in the movie while she isn't introduced util later in the novels.
I thought Margeries appearance was a bit out of place.
So if Alastor is forced out in that fight, is he forced out again to absorb the existence?
I think I'll pick them up too. Are only the first two translated so far?
Not quite. Yuuji used his existence to recover all the damage that was done to the building.
Alastor simply roasted Friagne
and regarding your second question, yes only 2 are in English in America.
Any fan-translation projects working on the novels?
>delicious flat chest
No shit sherlock. Flat chests are good no matter what.
Trigger Happy's power is that it forces the Flame Haze's Lord out of their body and makes them manifest, killing them as would happen normally with the whole 'Tenpa Jyousai' or whateverthefuck it was called. The Lord would then be forced to return to Guze in order not to distort the balance. Shana gets hit by that, and then Alastor WTFPWNs Frigne since bitches didn't know about Shana's huge capacity.
OH GOD ICHIGO IS HOT
I wouldn't know.
Haven't lurked around for non-anime Shana stuff since 2 Novembers ago.
Thanks anyway. I'll go ask the Internet.
Thank you for your useful and informative post.
That reminds me. The S1 dvd rips I have seem to be much more dull than I remember. Was there HD for S1?
The S1 DVD rips also have the annoying official translation names.
Ah they are the raw rips subbed by eclipse.
What names are those? A lot of them are already English names.
So was Tenpa Jyousai used at a later date in the novels? Or is it just mentioned?
You seriously expect Amerikkkan kids to remember a name like "Wilhelmina"?
Her name is now Emily.
Refresh my memory on this Tenpa Jyousai thing.
in the Engdub her name is Wilhelmina
It's the phrase that summons Alastor into the IRL world.
1) The current Enpatsu no Shakugan says 'Tenpa Jyousai'.
2) In order to manifest, Alasor puts all of his existance inside of her, if you know what I mean.
3) She explodes.
4) Alastor shows up and kicks ass until he runs out of PoE.
Ah, in that case I don't remember anyone who's peaked at the novels in moon mention Alastor being summoned again.
Mostly Yuuji and Shana going through shit and Yuuji becoming the center of all things awesome.
What are the novel translations like? Licensed DVD quality, or high-end fansub quality?
well not ALL obviously
I herd that they removed some of the sexual/ violent stuff from them, but then, I haven't ready them in moon, so I've no idea what.
Don't even think about the licensed DVDs. I CANNOT UNHEAR SHANA'S DUB.
They read very well.
I can't read a lick a moon but it seems that the author's style was preserved.
Wilhelmina's official English name is "Wirhelmina". Which is bullshit, because Wilhelmina is an actual name, and "Wirhelmina" STILL HAS AN 'L', you fucking tlansration idiots.
But more annoying is that her title changed from "Manipulator of Objects" (which kinda made sense, since she has physical string attacks) into "Specialist of Everything" (which makes no sense).
Loli, adult. I only wish SnH Sakai Yuuji hit that.
Shana's voice was fairly well done.
The one that I cannot unhear is Chigusa. Oh god, they localized her script TERRIBLY.
So, whos subs should I donwload for this series?
you shouldn't have to ask
Also this thread needs more Shana.
sage for shounen
cept shana sounds like an old lady
And Yuuji needs to hit this immediately.
Eh, Shana's voice was okay.
At least they got someone who had some ability to emote like a proper tsundere.
i lol'd - 1 troll whole thread and little reaction. 0/10 nice try
>They read very well.
The novel translations are fucking awful, the whole story was rewritten from something just a level below Haruhi's to third grade level reading. Everything was either awkward as fuck, misconstrued or outright incorrect.
And these fags complain about fansubs and scanslations. Hah! GET BETTER QUALITY FAGGOTS, YOUR SHIT SUCKS.
he's talking about the anime not light novels.
like the hottest part of the series
I'm curious. What parts of the first two volumes did they fuck up on.
I've read each two times already and nothing seemed wrong.
Bestestest part of s1. FAP FAP FAP
So the translated novels aren't worth buying? What does one do, then? Wait for someone to decide to translate them, or learn Japanese or some shit
OH GOD SHANA IS HOT IN THOSE BANDAGES!
Hotter in lava.
OTHER THINGS I FUCKING HATE ABOUT THE OFFICIAL TRANSLATION:
1 : Ninneto no Shana is left untranslated, but Reiji Maigo becomes "Midnight Lost Child"? What the fuck? Just leave the treasure names alone. Half of them are in English anyway.
2 : CHIGUSA. "Can I call you Shana-chon? Yu-chon! Shana-chon!" She sounds like a fat Pockey-slurping weeaboo whore. Nobody else in the whole fucking show uses honorifics.
3 : Alastor's speech at the beginning. They use the word "World" twice in a row. Makes my inner litfag rage EVERY GOD DAMN TIME. And I like listening to Alastor's English VA, so it's a lot of rage.
Holy shit, this is awesome.
I think that guy was a troll.
I have those novels and they're pretty damn good.
If you're really curious, hit up the store and read a few pages before buying.
If you like the show I don't see how the novels can dissapoint you.
Unless of course you can't like it without it moving.
Take Melon Pan.
AN ADULT SHANA IS FINE TOO!
Also: GOD, OH, etc.
On a side note I am very surprised that I haven't seen a single Yuuji x Chigusa doujin.
awesome villains amirite?
Whose the bitch with the horns?
Why does yoshida have horns?
Y's Dad/C's husbando is too awesome for them dirty 11s to destroy.
That very sloppy kiss made me feel sick for a second.
I really don't know why.
She's an awesome villain.
He's a retard, but he gets to kiss her.
None the less, tWINcest is tWINcest.
I suppose so.
Well I'm glad some things are sacred.
Is this one of the novel images? Do want.
So, if the first novel is the first arc vs Friagne (or however it's spelt), is the second novel Margery's arc?
They seem to be getting released at a rate of 2 per year, so it'll be quite some time until English readers can get the whole story.
WHo is the none shana girl in this picture?
Horned chick is the tomogara from the first arc of season II. She only lasted like two episodes, and then the great boring arc began, so everyone forgets about her.
and here I thought yoshida was going to do something usefull other then die
Yes that is from Novel 1 I believe.
And yes Volume one deals with Friagne while Volume two introduces Margery and finishes all the business with Ramses or whatever the name of that dude is.
AWESOME DAD IS AWESOME!
That'd ruin everything.
Tomogara from PS2 game and beginning of Season 2. Don't tell me you didn't fucking watch the beginning of Season 2 because it "sucked shit" or some variant, or I'll have to rip off your nose over TCP/IP.
She dies? FUCK YES!
Wow, didn't expect to see Aono and Shana in a single image.
Oh shit, you're right.
I almost did this, but I changed my mind.
Still, I forgot who she was.
I watched all of Season two, but they didn't show this Loli with the blueish clothing.
>>I think that guy was a troll.
lol wut, calling someone who denounces dub/sub American faggotry as a troll? What are you, some VIZ Media halfu?
Read the first seven or so page of the AnimeSuki novel topic to see the list of butcheries, I'm too lazy to copypasta right now..
Unless Blue Loli = Horned bitch.
I don't think she does..
OH GOD FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP
Girl with blue clothes is Aono from "sola". Note the origami paper in her hand.
She's not from SnS, she's Aono from Sola. Note Noizi Ito drew Aono and Naru Nanao (Sola's character designer) did Shana.
Quite a late response eh.
Since you didn't answer my follow up post I wrote you off as a troll.
I'll check that stuff out to see if its legitimate though.
All in good time anonymous. all in good time.
Note there are no hand. 0/10
Ah fuck, I linked to the wrong post.
No, just have the memory of a goldfish
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!
Snake's plan will cause 3rd impact and only yoshida and yuuji will be left alive. Then yuuji will kill himself search your feelings you know it too be true
Found some novel pages
This looks like something you'd read for a grade school book report. Is the entire book like this/was the original like this as well?
I know it's animesuki, but.. http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=26560&page=6
>All throughout the prologue, these things keep popping up. It would seem that the person at Viz was deliberately removing details that he deemed inconsequential and then adding in explicit interpretations as opposed to letting the reader derive the implied meaning. It makes the story feel a lot more childish, as if the "writer" were holding your hand and taking you through the story in small, gentle steps.
No idea about the original. We'd have to ask a moonperson.
So it seems there were some problems in the Prologue...
So what. Read the Novel yourself.
Yorito is a paper tiger.
God, I hate it when they do that.
The story doesn't seem chopped up by the time it gets rolling.
what volume is the anime on currently?
Healthy girl is indeed Shana-like.
From what I can gather, if the original was something like what high schoolers (not college kids, think "The Kite Runner") would read, the novels were localised to elementary school/middle school level. This probably reflects VIZ's idea that Shana was supposed to be read by little kids.
Things changed in volume 2 I hear.
Okay, here's a faggoty question: what are the powers of the Nietono no Shana sword vs. Shana's own Flame Haze powers?
I think they decided not to be faggots and just give the novel how it is.
IIRC Nietono No Shana was just a very firmly built Japanese Long Sword.
Its useful to Shana because her young age upon making the contract left her with a very poor usage of her Flame.
>From what I can gather, if the original was something like what high schoolers would read, the novels were localised to elementary school/middle school level.
not following here
I wondered because the faggot twin who wanted it already had Blutsauger, which seemed like a superior weapon.
The Japanese versions were aimed at a highschool-level audience
The English versions were adapted to be aimed towards a younger audience (in terms of wording).
That's a hougo, so it's not really comparable.
Wut? She seems pretty strong to me.
Nietono no Shana ignores all unrestricted methods. i.e., regardless of the enemy's reality warping power, it'll always hurt them. That's its power.
Seriously, highschoolers in America are generally on the level of middleschoolers or less. Generally. There are a few exceptions, such as myself. But highschool is done now and my teachers can't make any more bonus money off my AP test scores. Sucks to be them.
it's a hougu, not just a sword. it has to have a power of some sort.
She can't use fire 'n' stuff like Margery does, without using the sword.
You think she's going to use it on Yuuji?
That does sound strong. Thanks.
Yes because her specialty is melee and She is a flame haze.
She just can't use many unrestricted methods and originally had a weak flame power.
Hell she couldn't fly until after she met Yuuji.
Is that so? Then its a pretty badass blade.
She already did.
She's strong, but she lacks, well, "finesse" is the best way of putting it.
Compare how she fights to how Margery or Wilhelmina fight.
Shana basically overwhelms people with pure power and fire.
Speaking of which, what color is Tiamat's flame, anyway? I can't think of a time we ever actually saw it.
Yuji hasn't even used an unrestricted method yet, he beat the shit out of everyone with his physical abilities and ridiculous hougu alone.
That's just the icing on the cake.
The dude is extremely clever and very insightful.
The novels really demonstrate this.
that's also why Tenmoku Ikko had killed so many Tomogara over the years:
most rely on their "magic" to win fights, so they were easy pickings when forced into a physical fight. We only think that Tomogara are good at physical combat because we see the ridiculously powerful ones like Sydonay, Sabrac, and Bel Peol.
Yeah, Yuiji's intellect is one of the things that sets him apart from a generic shounen protagonist.
This show fails hard on the shonen checklist.
Seirei no Hebi.
Assuming JC Staff doesn't fuck up royally, we should meet him next episode I believe.
they've already fucked everything up horribly. Yuji's supposed to willingly agree to join with the snake and then disappear.
Shana and Yoshida should be waiting all night for a Yuji who's never going to come (lols), not going off to fucking rescue him.
And that's a good thing.
According to the wiki, Hecate removes the Reiji Maigo from Yuiji next ep
That sound coincidental with his appearance?
Whut? But Yuuji needs that. :l
Usually the flame color of the flame haze corresponds to the one they're contracted to.
Best way of noting flames, btw, is the 2nd ED of season 2. Those balls floating behind the characters correspond to their flames. Only Yuuji is different (blue), and we haven't seen Yoshida's, unless they're trying to correlate her with Pheles.
I know that, I just can't remember ever actually seeing Wilhelmina/Tiamat's flame. EVER.
Oh. Say. Does anyone love the OST as much as I do? The only OP/ED I really love is Sociometry, but the actual background music is pretty damn boss.
You can see it happen at the end of the RAW.
btw, if anyone has a scan of wilhelmina at this point in the ED, please post it.
I didn't like how they had that wierd rock song when Shana was fighting Sabrac last ep.
I didn't like how they had that weird rock song when Shana was fighting Sabrac last ep.
THAT WAS GENIUS.
I fucking love Wilhelmina, because I get to type out my last name every time I type hers.
>wierd rock song
Uh, you mean the first OP?
>wierd rock song
lol gotta be trolling there
10/10 humor, though.
Here. I am seriously lolin at these responses. Thank you.
A Shana thread without this video being mentioned?
>>Speaking of which, what color is Tiamat's flame, anyway? I can't think of a time we ever actually saw it.
Alastor - Crimson
Marco - Violet
Tiamat - Sakura
Coffin Weaver - Blue
Hecate - Indigo
Bel Peol - Lavender
Sabrac - Mad Red
Sydonay - Lime green
Silver - duh
Sairei no Hebi Sakai Yuuji - black
You meant this, right?
FUCK YEAH JOINT
SSJ and panty shots in the same scene.
>>Assuming JC Staff doesn't fuck up royally, we should meet him next episode I believe.
They already fucked up IMO. No matter how they do SnH now he's going to come off as an absolute evil jackass rather than a super powerful well-meaning god.
Hello, Mr. Wilhelm.
>Coffin Weaver - Blue
Who the hell is Coffin Weaver?
>Sydonay - Lime green
Where did you get this? His is most definitely a teal.
Fecor - rouge
If you post that ever again,
I'll seriously start eating people.
Already got you covered, boss. See: >>10262464
Good afternoon, Mister Anonymous.
They'll probably make him out to be a villain and have Yoshida save the day with her hougu.
god her screams were such a turn on this episode
yeah you beat me to it so delete 4tw
tomogara who created the city devouring spell, took Rammy hostage, was responsible for Alastor's former flame haze dying (so she could kill coffin weaver)
this was all in medieval europe though. anyway, it's the story in novel 10.
dammit, i can't wait until monday for eclipse's sub. I'm downloading the raw
RAW is not that bad.
There's a lot of talking, but if you have picked up even the most basic weeaboo phrases, you'll get what's going on.
Why did we get harem drama shit instead of this? Seriously, weeks ago people were saying "IT'S ALL SO WE GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE CHARACTERS WHEN YUUJI KILLS THEM" but now that Yuuji isn't going to go GAR it seems like a fucking waste of time.
Oh man I feel really bad for you if you can't wait a few days... and then have to guess what they say.
So is the episode just Shana repetitively calling Yuji an idiot and then NANDEMONAIing it up? Because I'll be clueless otherwise.
He's gone fairly GAR already.
Is the anime supposed to be on novel 10 right now?
>>He's gone fairly GAR already.
Not really. he's supposed to be a GAR GOD, so manly he makes even Hiraga Saito look like a wimp. Thus far, he's just shown above average toughness for a Japanese kid (and far above average intelligence).
Anime is at the end of volume 14 right now.
A merely above-average Japanese kid can choke a bitch to death with his bare hands?
I think that's a rather rare accomplishment.
im sorry my mind just went blank.....an adult shana?...o fuck.....o fuck......
Ah, I see. But, I think he's more than "above average" , with the silver fire and hougos. Not that it matters much.
Anyways, I'm surprised that the anime is at volume 14. I was under the impression that there was oodles and oodles of story after what was currently taking place.
It's a bit unfair to compare Yuuji to Saito, Saito's losses were made up for the fact that he's a superhero and everyone is craving his cock.
Yuuji's dead, he's helpless and the only girl he has any love interest in browbeats him more than she gives him compliments.
The mere fact he didn't turn into a Shinji is enough to call him GAR given those circumstances.
anime skipped around and cut out a lot of shit.
Volume 15 and Volume 10 are almost entirely missing from the show. The visual novel was substituted in instead.
oh god no
From the novels Yuuji was badass since shit first started popping off.
He just didn't have the ability to fight.
Yeah, I got that feeling from the movie.
Maybe they'll pull a Hellsing and make a set of movies/OVAs seperate from the anime which are extremely faithful to the novels. Though I kind of doubt it ;_;.
You can always hope right?
I hope that they adapt the anime and most likely season 3 to be truthful in at least the growth of the characters.
JC Staff wants to animate all the shana novels as movies, 2/vols per movie. Needs funding to do it though.
So buy buy buy weeaboos. That's the only way we'll get more even if it's shit. ;_;
HOW DO I WROTE CHECK TO JAPAN
Fuck, that'd be awesome.
Unfortunately, Shana is now out of print in NA since Geneon left or something.
Interesting. So if I buy anything, I'll buy the SnS movie.
>Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan desu (collective writing)
Amazon.co.jp is your best friend. Buy the Shana DVDs. Shipping is pretty fast and even free if you buy enough. Do it. I'm doing so for Wolf and Spice.
do you need a regionless dvd player to play those dvds, though?
I think Wolf and Spice is going to be the first anime that I actually buy.
.. I don't know what's happening to me.
Interesting idea, but they'd be useless since the downloaded versions are 720p and subbed. The only reason to buy them is just to own them. That's fine with me, but I'd prefer if they had at least some intrinsic value.
I've always personally thought to myself "once I buy something from Japan, there's going to be no turning back from this". Let me know how it goes.
2nd, I too am also going to buy Spice and Wolf. The first anime I'll actually purchase since buying a subtitled VHS Macross Plus oh so many moons ago.
IT'S A SINKER.
Oh wow, awesome. I think. Anonymous as we know/knew it is evolving. Or dying. Whatever.
Region 1 DVDs are useless in Region 2 players and vice-versa, but you can pop the DVD into your PC and use a little program to avoid the entire region block without having to fuck around with firmware hacks and whatnot. Lemme find the name of the thing I use...
DVD Region+CSS Free
Torrent on isohunt if you want it.
No evolution, sadly. It's just bedtime for all the 14 year olds.
I'd rather wait for a Blu-Ray version of the movie m'self. 1080p, fuck yeah.
If WaS came on Blu-Ray I might consider buying a drive just for it. But it doesn't.
Doesn't the Blu-Ray movies have some sort of false visual effect to you?
They're down to 150 now. Should be even more affordable in a few months.
Now I just need a monitor that can display it.
Well those are relatively cheap. Unless you want one that you can game on.
Nope, just something with enough pixels for 1080p. 400 is the cheapest I could find.
I've never seen an actual Blu-ray movie, only rips of them. Never noticed any "false visuals" though.
Blu-ray is just mpeg2 (XBOX HUEG). Rips are usually mpeg2 then added h.264.