We require Volume 6 immediately if not sooner...
what's the status of the translation?
all sorts of tasty bumpage
bump for horse punching
i've read up to volume 5 and I don't find it as enjoyable as you fellow anons say it is. I say it's a little better than bleach, but I don't think it is as good as Neuro, d.gray-man, hitman reborn and kekkaisi
DGrayMan better than Bleach??????????????
Regardless superior shonen is HunterXHunter, Claymore etc
d.gray-man is way above claymore and hunter x hunter
I am in tears at the shittiness of this thread.
Thats because the OP is a bumping idiot that doesn't realize this isn't /r/
I'm sorry, there is no way in hell this post is anything but trolling. Reborn, Kekkaishi, and D.Gray-man have even Bleach beat on the generic scale, to say nothing of your placement of Vinland Saga.
HxH and Claymore both have such god-awful art I can't stand to read them.
Lolol no it isn't this weeks chapter blew ass
You like DGrayMan and you're talking about awful art? You can't even tell what the fuck is going on the fight scenes in DGrayman
D.Gray-Man is one of the worst jump series. Thankfully it has not gained too much popularity.
would you asses stop your petty bickering and tell me when he's gonna be done with Volume 6!?
Vinland Saga appears to be heading the path of Narutard-ness...
Actually I can, but only by reading them 4 or 5 times through. And I never said I liked it, so I don't know where you pulled that idea from. I do catch up on D.Gray-man a couple times a year, but whatever.
NOBODY KNOWS BUT SPORE. NOW STOP NAMING YOURSELF AFTER AN ANIME CHARACTER, IT'S FUCKING STUPID.
DGM has pretty art, which is all I really care about when picking series for entertainment rather than plot. And in that regard, it's probably the 2nd or 3rd best series in SJ.
>but only by reading them 4 or 5 times through
Thanks for proving my point retard
The entire point of including that line WAS to agree with your point, retard.
DGM's art is pretty during chapter covers/coloursepreads, but is very cluttered during action scenes.
The best drawn Jump series is Eyeshield. And whatever Obata does now that Ral Grado/DN have ended.
Wow, all we need are some tripfags in here and I'll be all set to become a sandmaster or something.
I'll know people will call me a troll, but Naruto is amongst the most well drawn Shonenjump series out atm
what has happened to /a/
it's sad i have to sage a vinland saga thread
Eyeshield has good action sequences, but its character designs are rather lousy and undetailed. DGM is the opposite.
Seeing as Obata is doing nothing at the moment, the best overall art in SJ right now is by far Bleach. After that, DGM and Eyeshield in no particular order.
Wow. I hadn't realized it was the middle of the day until I saw this thread.
/a/ is like a clock.
But OK, I won't call you a troll. I'll just say you're either a chubby fetishist or have genuinely shitty taste instead.
Bleach does not have better art than naruto
this thread, as per usual on daytime /a/, will now segue into discussion of naruto.
All that training and hype and Sasuke still loses?
why am I helping
this is pretty much the best VS you can expect for afternoon /a/
I respectfully disagree.
Haha, oh wow. OH WOW.
I remember reading Norwegian Shonen Jump (Eurofag). It had Yu-Gi-Oh!, Ruroni Kenshin, Shaman King and Naruto.
Out of all the series, I could compare ANY of them to Naruto and they would all have far better art. Naruto art was, and still is hideous.
Itachi pulled a Kimimaro on us. Sasuke isn't dead, so he wins.
DAYTIME /a/ MAKES ME CRY!
All the art in this thread (besides OP) sucks until now.
Saging for naruto/bleach faggotry in a Vinland Saga thread. The only other series allowed in VS threads is Berserk. NO EXCEPTIONS
The real problem with Naruto's art is that Kishimoto is a horrendous character designer, puts no thought or detail into their faces at all, and makes virtually everyone look the same as a result. I can live with his NO SHADING LOL as being a style decision, but not with having characters whose only distinguishable traits are their progressively ludicrous outfits.
Back on topic: DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO FUCK CANUTE SO BADLY?!
Berserk's a monthly series and by one of the best artists ever. Just because its art is amazing doesn't mean other series's art can't still be good.
Slaymoaring in a VS thread.
I'd make one and only one
BLADE OF THE IMMORTAL
I want to fuck every main male character
There's less detail in all that mess than in Ichigo's hands here.
>>Eyeshield has good action sequences, but its character designs are rather lousy and undetailed.
OH NO YOU DIDN'T YOU NIGGA! 0/10. RAGING, CRUISE, FUCKING, CONTROL, ETC.
"lol hairspikes" does not count as good character design.
this thread is proof that /a/ should just be closed until 8pm EST
The discussion's been quite rational if you discount the whining sagefaggots.
Seriously. How could a VS thread so easily turn into Naruto discussion? This is the Germany of threads.
We're discussing series art, not Naruto. Did you actually try reading the thread?
..... Wait, wait. Hair spikes all of a sudden count as bad character design? Although there's plenty of characters that don't have spiky hair, despite that Murata has shown he has a good grasp of anatomy, perspective and motion? On top of that, makes his character distinct enough to tell them apart?
AND YOU FUCKING HARPING ON SPIKY HAIR?!
FUCK YOU, D.GRAY-MAN HAS FUCKING SPIKY HAIR TOO, YOU FAGGOT. ALLEN'S CROWNED CLOWN FORM, MOTHERFUCKER?!
Yugioh, Kenshin, yes.
Shaman King, NO.
You're comparing the merits of the world's worst bottom of the fucking barrel shonen as if any one of them is going to start sucking less by having a superior attribute to the rest. And in center stage? Naruto, of course.
This is pretty much the worst thread ever.
But the only art being discussed is from garbage series with mediocre artwork. The only reason their artwork is even half-decent is because they make a million bucks and can afford a lot of artists.
Fuck you man, SK designs are awesome.
And as a general rule, if you do not need to focus on the image to tell where the background ends and the character begins, it's better than Naruto. Fuck Kishimoto and his paint-bucket filled overhyped lineart.
Posting VS fanart in an attempt to save thread
Don't bother and create a new thread.
We'll forget this one and praise you for your willingness to erase the faggotry
it wouldn't get any replies anyway
Shaman King has generic character designs, lousy art, and little detail. Compare it with anything else in this thread (yes, even the Naruto art), and it's far inferior.
Simple does not mean bad.
But, it's understandable when they have to push out 17 pages in 5 days (which is insane, trust me), compared to Vinland Saga, which the guy still has assistants, which is a monthly series.
Also, it's a big reason Berserk's releases are so slow since Miura does it on his own, IIRC.
But it's not better.
>>Shaman King has generic character designs
What? No seriously, what? You can complain about a lot of things in Shaman King, but GENERIC DESIGNS? Faust? Chocolove? BOKUTO NO MOTHERFUCKING RYU!? Every single goddamned Oversoul? If there's one thing SK has are off-the-wall wacky designs. One Piece is probably one of the few shonen that can beat it in terms of variety of form.
He really likes to waste our time too. He seems to be obsessed with drawing big armies even though they have very little relevance to the story.
Starting to think he cares more about the art than the story lately.
Also, 294 translation whar?
Simple does not mean bad in certain cases, yes, but an action series is emphatically NOT among those cases. Action series require skilled, detailed art, or else the scenes will simply be static looking and boring.
And really, we aren't 12 any more, we're certainly not reading shonen for the PLOT these days. The art, and sometimes a few cool characters, is all shonen has to offer.
Steretypical Black people design
>>BOKUTO NO MOTHERFUCKING RYU!?
Stereotpical delinquent design
The art is barely above average but it's nothing to write home about.
The story right now is a bigass war. He wants to portray said bigass war to the best of his ability, even if it kills him and us to do so.
You still can't help but be impressed by his dedication though.
Give me a fucking break, what do you call original then? None of the characters can be readily matched to any given stereotype, even both Ryu and Chocolove are a "type" of character, you can't fucking seriously compare either with any regular filler guy in any other manga. By that logic, ANY character can fit one or more sterotypes simply because you're not going to find a type of person who has never been featured in any other work before. I can easily peg Gutts as a "generic big tough guy" or Thorkell as a "Generic that-joyful-but-powerful-dude-that's-nerev-the-main-character-but-is-always-near-somehow".
Yeah, but, it wouldn't kill him to show a bit more profesionalism. He's not a paintor, he's a mangaka, taking luxury overtime to over-detail stuff that has very little actual relevance is going to the other extreme. Or just hire some goddamn assistants.
Thor in Valhalla, give me the strength to summon enough sage to send this thread as deep into the pits of hell as it belongs. Pits where there is no magical sand.
Well, it is his manga and he wants to wow his audience with detail.
But I agree he needs to hire assistants. At this rate, Berserk's last chapter will come out when I'm 44.
>>10254287 what do you call original then?
You normally won't see an original character design without the artist having an original artstyle (i.e. not DBZ-clone or moemoe art) to go with it, at least these days. From what I recall of Shaman King, it had a pretty basic-looking style, so that's probably where the complaint is coming from.
Even for people who draw well, like, say, Kentaro Yabuki (Black Cat, To-Love Ru), nobody would call the character designs original because the style is so standard.
You'll still be reading it, too.
I know I will, that's for sure.
And maybe by then the Hellsing OVA will finish too.
That's very, very likely.
I'd like to have more Berserk as well, but if I have to choose between "manga takes longer, but then looks awesome" like Berserk, or "manga takes longer, but then looks like stick figures" (HxH), I think I can forgive Miura.
Mx0 has a "basic" style. Takei can probably be accused of skimping on the detail a bit, though nowhere near the levels of Kishimoto, but his designs are nowhere near the norm. At best you can complain about the same "cartoony" style that he shares with Oda (Though still pretty different), but "generic" sure as hell ain't it.
It's possible the style changed between the chapters I read and the... end? current section? descent into endlessness?, but from what I recall, the art was boring as hell.
I know, I know, that's why I mentioned extremes. It's possible to look good without taking for-fucking-ever. It's actually an excersise for comic artists and the like to get acceptable results without the need to spend a goddamn eternity on every page.
Just go and take a look at a few damn chapters, you're spouting bullshit based on vague memories. The style hasn't changed much since Shaman Fight started, and the designs for the second-stage Oversouls and higher aren't anything short of marihuana-induced.
>>10254547 Mx0 has a "basic" style.
That it does. It's also drawn with more skill than Shaman King.
Now you're just trolling. Spouting random comments without even showing a comparison of refering to specific details means shit. I like Mx0, but it's very regular run-of-the-mill stuff with an extremely average style and so far has had absolutely zero noteworthy scenes as far as art design goes.
For a case of a person who DOES have a unique artstyle but still has mostly generic character designs, see Highschool of the Dead.
But hey, who cares, we got tits!
Detail does not equal skill. If you wanna actually try and argue artistic ability, base it off of knowledge of anatomy, shape, motion, and perspective. Either way, this thread's only "I LIKE DIS COMIC'S ART THE OTHER SUCKS JUST CUZ I SAY SO."
This thread is an abomination
BY ODIN'S BEARD, I SAGE WITH FULL FORCE