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so when you take out all the cheating and luck hax, was Ichikawa the most competent player Akagi went up against?
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>>10241779
Shark most likely.
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Yes. That match is actually my favorite, other than the Washizu one.
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sure, why not. it's not like any of us actually know how to play mahjohng.
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>>10241806

by the end I sorta understood how
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Also, Ichikawa was the only one that made Akagi shit bricks, even if it was only for a second.

He's the second most GAR person in the entire anime.
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Yep, mind he hasn't had too many opponents that we've actually seen, but Akagi himself thought that they were evenly matched.
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Holy shit. Fucking Hivemind.

I was rewatching the Ichikawa arc just now.
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Well, I always thought Ishikawa was the best Mahjong player other than Ikagi himself. The only reason Akagi won was because of cheating and that Ishikawa was blind.
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>>10241902
Well, the match was stacked against Akagi in the first place, since the other two were playing to block Akagi from gaining any meaningful advances.
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>>10241902
And he knew Akagi was cheating anyway. Or at least, figured it out pretty quickly.

So aside from Washizu being insanely rich, how good is he supposed to be at Mahjong? Haven't finished the series yet, so I don't know too much about him. Ichikawa is supposed to be one of the best in the world.
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>>10241951

his skills are high, but he has luck-hax, as in, he always seems to draw what he wants (no it's not cheating)
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>>10241951
Washizu is good, not amazing, but quite good. He is more lucky than good though.
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>>10241902

Plus Akagi didn't actually start playing against Ichikawa until Nangou had all but fucked them over.
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>>10241779

2channel's ranking (can't read, someone translate the elevenspeak):

赤木しげる > 市川 > 浦部 > 矢木 >偽製赤木/平山幸雄 > 安岡 > 竜崎 = 鷲巣巌 > 治 > 南郷
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>>10241987

Akagi > Ichikawa > Urabe > Yagi > imitation Saacaki/Yukio Hirayama > Yasuoka >
dragon cape = eagle S > rule > Nango

that's what my kanji translator site tells me
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>>10241987

Akagi Shigeru > Ichikawa > Urabe > Yagi > Fake Akagi > Washizu = Ryuuzaki > Osamu > Nangou
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>>10242075
Washizu is pretty damn low on that scale.
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>>10242075
Wait, didn't Washizu beat Fake Akagi/Yukio? Or is this based on technical playing ability? I guess it'd be possible for Fake Akagi to be better than Washizu, but lose to him because of luck.
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It's hard to put washizu on any scale since, supernatural luck aside, he was playing a really specific homebrew version of mahjong. Therefore there's a huge unknown variable affecting the matches he won, the difference stemming from him being familiar with his shit and others having to play out of their element.
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>>10242220

Washizu was playing people under duress.
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>>10242228
Also the fact that washizu has nothing to lose and the others are betting their lives makes Washizu almost unbeatable
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>>10242075
>>10242118

I call bullshit on that list, Osamu was actually pretty decent against Urabe and Washizu is obviously above Yukio (Fake Akagi) on the rankings.
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Washizu's just a normal player. Even Fake Akagi being as sucky a gambler as he is is still a "professional" compared with normal players. The key was Washizu Mahjong made Washizu invincible because it maximized his insane luck and limited a mahjong player's skill. Players have to score insanely huge hands just to survive the rank bonus penalty. Akagi's particular game sounds insane, but really Akagi was facing Washizu at his weakest while Akagi himself was at his strongest, so that's what allowed him to make it so far.

Imagine if Ichikawa, who was second only to Akagi,was facing Washizu. Ichikawa can't see Washizu's tiles, while Washizu could see his. He also doesn't have a wall in front of him to feel, and likewise wouldn't know the tiles of his ally in the game. He'd be at an incredible disadvantage facing Washizu, even if Washizu told him the tiles in his hand.
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One day, I'll find out what the tea cozy on his head REALLY is. Jesus christ, Ichikawa is fucking awesome and all, but that thing on his head drives me fucking insane.

It can't be a yamaka. Inconceivable.
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>>10242347
>yamaka
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>>10242330
Even if it wasn't placed in our face during the ichikawa arc, I though it was kinda implied the men in suits were telling him every tiles that he should normally see when they were played. If he played washizu's shit, I imagine that it would include being told the transparent tiles.
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>>10242406

Naturally, it's not as though Ichikawa's going to feeing up every single tile in play.
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>>10242547
No, because he does something else.



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