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Its time
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>>102292485
>those hands

jesus fucking christ
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>>102292528
Welcome to yaoi.
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>>102292549
The face? Her skull got crushed in the scene right before and didn't have the time to heal properly.
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>>102292549
I want >>>/v/ to learn the difference between "inbetweens" and "Anatomical errors".
How the fuck is that "QUALITY". It's like when you have someone in a live actionshow talking, and you press pause, where you get a retarded face. You can't just scream "OH LOL HE IS A RETARD BECAUSE OF THIS PICTURE XD".
Please leave /a/ and learn about animation before you come back. Thank you.
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>>102292641
I gotta say, that's some sexy looking QUALITY.
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>>102292602
Try Mikasa's hand
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>>102292641
Not quality. Her middle finger and ring finger are together like any Barbie, princess or girls in anime does.

You faggots wouldn't realize the difference between a bug and a spider, you're so fucking retarded.
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>>102292713

and her head shape
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>>102292687
Not quality. This is still an inbetween, and there's not even anything wrong with the picture. If you're trying to complain about the rotoscoped style of tha anime, you're in the wrong place, make your own thread for it.
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>>102292713
What about it? The two fingers are for the triggers on their 3dmg.
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Inb4 ITS A STYLE ITS ART
Its a piece of shit and you know it
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>>102292729
The problem isn't her fingers, oh brilliant one.
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>>102292729
It's more that she's as flat as a cardboard cutout.
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>>102292813
Her 2 fingers are missing
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>>102292729

Look at the shape of the back of her head you fucking inbred.
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>>102292844
>>102292851 (2D animation is flat? OH FUCK I DIDN'T KNOW)

I don't see it.
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>>102292927
Look at her legs.
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>>102292851
So we're all in agreement that there are several problems. Good.
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>>102292886
They're curved over one of the triggers. Do you think this guy's missing his index finger too?
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>>102292948
that's just a simulated fish eye effect
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>>102292927
>(2D animation is flat? OH FUCK I DIDN'T KNOW)
It's supposed to have the illusion of depth. With that image they just took a 2d image and slanted it.
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>>102292834
And still it's better than you ever could make.
This may be shit, but it's much better than 98% of the animation of the rest of Naruto + Shippuden episodes. This episode has some of the best animation in Naruto, anyone saying differently doesn't know animation enough to say shit about it. But of course I wouldn't expect you to know why the animation was even drawn like that in that episode.
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>>102292886
They're over triggers.
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>>102293005
Actually, what happened there is that they stuck her on a plane as a texture and rendered the 3D scene that way when they should have rendered the 3D scene separately, drawn her alone WITH perspective accounted for, and then put on top of the scene as a layer.
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>>102293092
I still don't see what's wrong with the picture. It's normal to slap 2d on 3d backgrounds, because low budget.
Or is there something that is WRONG with this picture? Do you just not like how it looks? Is it because of her ankles?
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>>102292834
3.5/10
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>>102293133
>long
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This whole anime
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>>102293188
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>>102293226
damn.
just.. damn.
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>>102293132
>slap 2d on 3d backgrounds
Taking perspective into account, yeah. Instead, they just put her onto a flat plane and looked up at it from a low angle.
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>>102293132
Really? It’s pretty apparent. When 2D is drawn with perspective in mind, there’s still a sense of depth. All they did here was draw her from a head-on perspective and then let the 3D program do the rest, which makes her look like paper. Had she been drawn on top of the 3D scene this wouldn’t have happened.

It’s blindingly obvious to me but then again I draw in my off time.
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>>102293306
So... how is it supposed to be then? The (don't know english word) point of dissapearance is so low on the screen, that it just makes sense to "draw her from the front".
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I love NGE as much as the next guy, but when it comes to perspective, there are some definite QUALITY moments
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>>102292120
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>>102292549
The drawing here could be cleaned up a little, especially around here head but this isn't a big deal at all.
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Needs more 90 degree angle hills
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this scene too, there's no such thing as vertical elevators
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>>102293516
>vertical elevators
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>>102293506
Never run after a bus....
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>>102293516
>vertical elevators
yeah, those do exist.
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>>102293516
>there's no such thing as vertical elevators
Are you sure about that?
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>>102293451
I don't see it.
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>>102293352
>It’s blindingly obvious to me but then again I draw in my off time.
So do I, I also study animation. Also, what's up with the "OH I DO SHIT, THUS MY OPINION IS MORE VALID
But to me, it seems all right. If this is something you would pick out as QUALITY over all other QUALITY, I seriously wonder what's going on.

To me it looks like.
Camera is directly in front of that chick. But (WHILE DIRECTLY FACING HER) it has been lowered, so that it directly faces her feet, at a distance. Zoomed in. Then you get her head-on, and perspective in background.

Still it's just a matter of shitty CGI. Don't rip on pokemon, a shitty series (visually) for doing it when there's even worse 3d applied in other places.
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Gantz anime was total shit.
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>>102293575
>Eren's Mom
>Ears.gif
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>>102293599
>he's fast
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>>102293533
>>102293557
>>102293559
too much cough syrup, sorry guys
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>>102293506
But there are parts of Tokyo that are actually something like this. They don’t draw it entirely accurate here, but it’s not far off. The japanese aren’t aggressive terraformers, they just build on top of whatever’s already there.
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>>102293599
Fuck, anon. I almost spewed water.
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>>102293423
I'll give rebuild credit for making him better.
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>>102293516
That's an escalator you dingus
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>>102293914
Where are they, San Fransisco?
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>>102293914
How fucking terrifying
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obligatory best QUALITY
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>>102293975
these abominations.
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>>102293914
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>>102293381
Draw her from a low angle instead of just slanting an eye-level one.
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>>102293023
doesnt take a chef to know the food tastes like shit, numb nuts
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>>102294016
>T-rex eating a salad
Every Fucking Time
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>>102293575
The moms
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>>102293023
>And still it's better than you ever could make.

>much better than 98% of the animation of the rest of Naruto + Shippuden episodes

You have no right to talk unless you can make an anime better than Naruto. Get to it, faggot.
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>>102293023
>you have to be a composer to know if a song is bad
>you need to be a chef to say if an entree is terrible
>you need to be a director to say a movie sucks
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>>102294443
>this is someone's fetish
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>>102294566
Mine.
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>>102294443
>smears
>stretch

How is that QUALITY? I swear some people here know jack shit about animation.
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>>102292834
That is a controversial shot indeed, but outside of several cuts the rest of the episode had great animation and had talented people working on it.
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>>102294622
>XTREME stretch
>Not QUALITY
Or is it one of those "Emphasize to the point of ridiculousness" things
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>>102294506
No, but you need to atleast know what the fuck animation is. The animation in itself isn't bad. Saying that is retarded. The only thing that makes you retarded faggots react is that it's your "PRESCHUS PAIN". If the character was a jellyblob instead of pain, it would fit perfectly. The only thing that breaks any rules here is that it doesn't fit the character (which in my opinion it does).

I'm not saying that he should be able to make it better, but I'd like to see him actually knowing what he's talking about before spamming his brainless shit.
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>>102294691
Realism != quality animation.
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>>102293023
>And still it's better than you ever could make

A fucked up chair is something better than I could ever make, but that doesn't mean that it isn't fucked up.

Even if he was trying to do some illusion of a powerful punch, it has failed because it looks fucking silly.
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>>102294443
>>102294664
>>102294378
>>102294506
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_basic_principles_of_animation#Exaggeration
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>>102294751
>because it looks fucking silly.
I don't know what Shingo Yamashita was aiming for in his animation there, but that very well could've been the whole point of that cut.
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I could screencap like half the shots in a given episode of Mahou Sensou probably.
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>>102294748
The whole show still looks like shit
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>Fisher Price: My 1st Anime
AOT
KLK
One piece
Cowboy bebop
naruto
fairy tale
DBZ
Pokemon
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>>102294880
Not that part.
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Anyone have that picture that makes no sense? I've seen like 50 different versions of people trying to outline the body parts.
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>>102294880
That's not the point.
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>>102294770

When it looks noticeably like shit, you know you are doing something wrong in animating it.
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>>102294848
And maybe these hands (>>102292485
) are supposed to look like grotesque abominations.

Because who knows what the creator wanted it to look like, and even if they deny it they could just be LYING.
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>>102294848
He wanted to give his animators some free reigns to do something fun.
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>>102294905
>hating on DBZ
literally kill yourself
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>>102294443
That's not QUALITY, though.
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>InuHasa pretty much looks like this just with more pixels
GONZOOOO
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>>102295009
The difference is the animator who did >>102292834 is talented, he has done great work on shows like Birdy Decode and Yozakura Quartet. There's no way that cut came about due to a lack of skill.
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>>102294443
Wait, is it supposed to be a hit to her stomach? Wow, it's just like in my /d/ doujins.

Also her head kinda fell off at this point, what happened?
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Is this a QUALITY thread?

Obligatory.
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>>102293533
>>102293557
>>102293559
>>102293738
That was obviously an Azumanga reference and I am not even the anon who posted it. How new are you faggots?
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>>102295072
FMP got an extremely noticeable visual upgrade when it was handed over to kyoani, almost to the point of absurdity.

and of course they’ll never animate any more of it ;_;
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>>102295074
Well you could plausibly argue Birdy The Mighty Decode looks like shit too.

Actually it would be silly to argue it doesn't often.
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>>102294972
You are an uneducated fool if you think that screencap has "quality" in it.
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How often do you get to see both extremes in the same image?
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>>102294972
>When it looks noticeably like shit

It doesn't. The animation in that part is extremely fast and that image only lasts for a single frame.
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>>102294443
HARA-PAN!!!
http://exhentai.org/g/656388/a9c70c5cef/
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>>102295154
I did consider adding a side note about that one episode. That one had some legitimately bad work, particularly from Tomoyuki Niho. The bit that he did was inexcusable.Yamashita's work in Birdy was fine on the other hand.
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>>102295074
>The difference is

If fucking Michelangelo came out with this fucking sculpture I would laugh at him all the same.

>>102295209
Well if that's the case, it's fine. As long as it looks good.

>>102295164
So why don't you "educate" me? Oh that's right, because you don't know shit.
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>>102295219
Mephina a cute.
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I like how most of S2 of this show consists of making robots too fucking blurry with afterimages to tell how poorly drawn they are even while the humans look terrible a considerable amount of the time.
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QUALITY BASKETBALL
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>>102295378
That gundam has a fucking eyeball with a pupil.
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>>102295378
Well that and camera shake

>trying to find any two consecutive shots where Arche's head looks the same or a single one it has a plausible shoulder joint
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>>102295392
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+an+inbetween
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>>102295455
what am I looking at here
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>>102295492
That doesn't look like an inbetweening issue, and poor inbetweens are a thing. Maybe he's talking about the character proportions but that could be how the character designs are like.
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>>102295314
Someone already provided you a link for exaggerated animation.
Her punch was supposed to go this deep and far behind her back, with added black lines, to show you how fucking hard that blow was.
If you think that it's a miss in the animation you are far too stupid to browse 4chan.
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>>102293599
The manga had its moments too.
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>>102295551
>to show you how fucking hard that blow was

And yet it looks like she is made of jelly, going by the gif.

You exaggerate the parts that you want to stand out and minimise what you don't want, and what stands out in that gif is the flapping of her fucking face.
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>>102295679
>what is kill la kill's exaggerated animation

Stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>102294173
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>>102295724
What the fuck are you even talking about now?
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>>102295760
>So why don't you "educate" me? Oh that's right, because you don't know shit.
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>anatomy complaint justified by freeze-framing action scenes with intentional speed distortions
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>>102295846
Kill la Kill has nothing to do with this you little faggot. Get some reading comprehension.
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>>102295885
>>102295314
>So why don't you "educate" me? Oh that's right, because you don't know shit.
Leads to >>102295164
Leads to >>102294972
Leads to >>102294770
Leads to >>102294443

It's not that hard to understand what I was replying to, but I see where the misunderstanding came from.
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>>102295492
Nah, look a his face.
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>>102295378
I totally just mistook that thumbnail as the rear of a girl showing off the back of her legs wearing a black miniskirt.
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>>102295956
>zooming in

Really now? That's fine given the size of the drawing.
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The one true king
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>>102295952
That second last lead in also goes to >>102292834, >>102294506 and >>102294664

The least likely link, if you were to pick at random, goes to >>102294443, and I was even talking about a gif and not a png.

The kill la kill shot looks fine in motion, for the record.
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>>102296107
Yeah that's why I said I see where the misunderstanding comes from.
Have something nice.
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>>102296107
Well, every QUALITY thread are made by faggots who don't know jack shit about animation. They freeze action-frames, and when they find distortions, they screencap and make threads spamming QUALITY. The level of content in these threads are like these:

>Luffy uses Gumo-Gumo pistol
>/v/ faggot takes a picture
>"OMG LOOK AT HIS ARM, IT IS LONG, QUALITY!"
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>>102296054
solving it will always be the highlight of my time here
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>>102296162
Well thanks, I guess
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>>102296008
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>>102296054
>>102296257
The classics are always fun
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>>102292731
best one
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>>102296381
Why
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>>102296386
see
>>102294770
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>>102296381
I miss seeing these for the first time
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>>102292729
>>102292927
>>102293132
>>102293578
>>102293023
>>102295492
Please stop getting mad at QUALITY theads.
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>>102296789
But they're shit. It's just the same dump every time.
And over 50% of them are inbetweens.
It's shit, made by people who don't know shit.
You should try making these in /r/anime or something, where retards are appreciated.
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>>102296886
You're shit.
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>>102292120
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>>102293723
What is this? Code Lyoko?
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>>102299700
eva rebuild
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ghost in the lel
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>>102299832
>lel
Cancer get >>>/out/
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>>102299975
Hello first timer, is it fun to act like hero trying to kicking people out
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>>102300063
What the fuck, is the artist blind or something?
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>>102296381
What's the problem here?
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>>102292546
it is really made on purpose?
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>>102292549
>new kid uses an inbetween frame to hate on SnK
>Because it's so cool!
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>>102300566
>artist
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ITT: People don't know what QUALITY means
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>>102293723
>him
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I don't have the ability to make a gif, so feel free to do it if you feel like it.
Top image: when she started running. Below: when she started jumping. She basically ran for one second before jumping a height bigger than herself.

This episode is also the source of my next image, you've probably seen it around these threads.
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>>102303937
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Where's the QUALITY?
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>>102293599
This is what happens when you get a sprite animator doing anime...
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>>102296054
This is not a difficult concept to grasp guys. Seriously. It is obvious what they're doing.
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Meanwhile in Sendai..
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>>102305741
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>>102305289
that is still horribly drawn and the censoring makes it even harder to tell what's going on
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>>102305741
>Nope
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>>102303964
holy shit good luck
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>>102306382

I always thought that these examples shouldn't be called QUALITY, since its just showing an object acting in an unrealistic way - it's not drawn incorrectly.
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>>102306382
Jem is adventure
Jem is excitment
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>>102294443
DBZ reference?
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>>102292980
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYkDP5xDoO8
GHOST BUSTERS
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>>102310420
The song is pretty catchy.
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>>102294506
>you have to be a doctor to operate on a human heart
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>>102302968
Her torso and legs cannot possibly be connected
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>>102303466
Mostly, it's one of these "genre-describing" things.
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>>102303466
It's like those enormous cowtits you can come across in the doujins.
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>>102292485
Sad part is they are doing that in purpose
is a exagerated form of big hands = big penis myth
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>>102292980
but why... isn't cheaper to draw the frame properly and then apply a real fish eye filter? They have done it before in previous series and looks way better
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>>102300566
This is Captain Tsubasa, do you think anyone gave a fuck back then?
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>>102293226
in serious need of loomis
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>>102292834

Is wrong but

>>102293023

Is a condescending idiot also.

There's a difference between QUALITY and "bad-looking" or "ugly" animation. You could argue that Kaiji looks bad, and that's your opinion and we can debate it, but it's not QUALITY. If it looks poor or the style doesn't appeal to you, it's still a conscious decision made by the creators, not an animation error or oversight made ACCIDENTALLY, which is the point of QUALITY. Same here. They made a conscious decision to make the show look that way, and the way it's animated is actually harder to pull off than if they kept it on model. You could say it's misguided effort, and I'd agree, but it's not QUALITY.

You could argue this looks ugly and unappealing too, but there's no denying that there was a ton of work put into it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv8IezFbADc
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>86 inbetween animation screenshots later
This thread is still up?
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>>102292549
That's a pretty good inbetween
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>>102322876
Are you frustrated?
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>>102322929
You rarely see actual quality itt
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>>102323160
See >>102322585

Not quality, just Yuasa
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I am disappointed I still have no .gif of this, it was pretty special.
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>>102295245
What episode?
>>102295154
Is the better Version the BDs?
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>>102323583
DVDs, Birdy was too poverty to get a BD release.
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>>102293975
Are you implying that womens tits dont have that banana sag to them?
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>>102295112
It has been an unspoken rule that all anime must have detailed cabbage since then, if anything it helped prevent quality in all the wrong places.
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>>102322876
Some shows don't even need inbetween shots.
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>>102322585
the tentacle loli is mai waifu
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>>102294016

Starring Crazy Diamond as T-Rex and Radical Larry as Triceratops.
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>>102294880
Debatable, nice argument, faggot.
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>>102292549
she looks like Sally Impossible
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I still want to know how he did this.
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>>102325341
No kidding.
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>>102295687
What fruit is that? Why is it eternal? Is it only available in Japan?
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>>102296054
I wish you could spoiler that shit, I got no idea what the fuck is going on, but it looks lewd.
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This thread theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izehAXhCpkg
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>>102324629
>not josuke_and_annasui_get_affected_by_scary_monster.gif
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>>102308906
I thought she was truly outrageous. Truly, Truly outrageous.
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>>102330182
Jem her music's contagious
Outrageous
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>>102331717
that's some horror shit right there
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>>102333518
Ok the guy walking outside was drawn wrongly but the guy driving the car was fine right?
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>>102295687

At least it's kind of interesting to look at.
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>>102292549
Her skull is caved inwards in this shot.
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>>102322736

I wonder if you would see their nipples in the BDs
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>>102293423
You're looking at best girl from a non-orthographic perspective from below. You know, so Ramiel looks large and looming instead of just a fucking d8? And it works!

New Ramiel is cool, for sure, but the 'camerawork' is plain an uninspired (until it shoots then it becomes rather dynamic), making it look small and out of place, instead of large and bizarre. CGI makes this worse.
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>>102293023

>MUH SAKUGA

fuck off



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