I've always been curious about how much of /a/ actually knows basic hiragana/katakana. I know it's a sizable amount but I have no idea what the percentages are and it would be interesting to find out.
But anyone who actually cares about Chinese cartoons can learn all the kana by the time this thread gets deleted.
I know both and like 300 kanji.
I'm sure this is going to provide you with an accurate summary of /a/'s kana ability.
I know hiragana, but I don't know katakana.
Even reddit knows kana
every weeb learns that shit day 1
I know all 2,136 joyou katakana and all 861 jinmeiyou hiragana.
i'm taking japanese in college
read all katakana, herp derp now i have learned it, what is this? a poll about knowing both hiragana and katakana? vote yes, proceed to shit post about how some people don't read both.
You can't read both if you can't remember all of them atleast 3 to 4 month later.
I learnt both while I was in high school. Unfortunately, on their own they're not good for much. I plan on learning Kanji and grammar/vocab at some stage, but haven't really been able to find proper motivation for it.
translate it weebs
>People who don't know kana can stay at 4chan.
>But I hate this place.
I think the problem with a poll is that only those who do know them care enough to answer.
This is the only kana I know.
I picked up Japanese at the start of the year, I've now memorized all the basic characters and combinations for both hiragana and katakana (I took a few weeks break from studying due to work).
How am I doing so far?
I answered yes because I knew all of them but forgot about an eighth of them.
I'm fine with hiragana but sometimes have mindblanks with katakana
I'll never understand how everyone else can learn languages so easily. Languages are the one thing I can't seem to wrap my head around at all. I've tried for years to learn SOMETHING other than English but nothing ever clicks no matter how much work I put into it, at best I can read things in a stilted manner.
People talk about "you should be able to learn all the kana in a weekend" and I'm just fucking amazed, I put months into it and couldn't seem to get it to stick.
Off by one, faggot.
Motivation and lots of time. I didn't start learning Japanese until the Rozen Maiden scanlations slowed to a snail's pace.
You should've included a kanji checkbox, though I can only recognize about 50-70.
>How am I doing so far?
Really slow, but it's better than nothing.
>lots of time
I guess maybe that's the key. It'd be easy enough for a NEET; then you're not even really a NEET because you're educating yourself.
The lots of time thing applies to the language as a whole, but not really kana in particular. People talk about learning it in a weekend because you CAN reasonably expect most people to learn it in that period of time, NEET or no. It's just an alphabet, and not a terribly long one; kanji is the bitch.
I'm not calling you stupid or anything though.
For the most part I know kana, but it's not like I can do much with it. I haven't put the effort towards learning much else.
>not even really a NEET because you're educating yourself
You're... wrong, dude.
Well I guess it really depends on the person. I picked up English through vidya and Internet surfing and a good deal of Japanese through anime and music. On the other hand, I often struggle to keep one single piece of data I need to learn for college.
>I put months into it
Really? Can't you just remember five new symbols a day?
People forget. There's the whole シツソンウワクケ thing too.
If you're learning something that could be used for a job then you're technically not a NEET.
i can read them, but not write
This wasn't so hard once you think to write it as if there's a wall and ceiling.
Once you read enough those become no problem at all.
This poll is going to attract mostly people who DO know their moonrunes. It's not going to be accurate.
No, man. You can't just look at the term and invent whatever goes with it. NEET refers to a person who is not engaged in education, training, or employment.
Sitting at home learning Chinese cartoons language is not education. Hell, sitting at home learning English is not education.
Going to school is education.
Ho-oh, but not you.
Ask me to write something in Japanese and I'll do my best to translate it.
Now ask who knows 15 kanji
"The pleasure of being cummed inside"
I'd imagine most who know the kana can recognize babby shit like 日 or 月 or 年 or 止 just from their animus and mangas, dunno about 15 though.
15 is easy.
That gives you ten already.
I'm not saying it's hard to learn 15 kanji, just that many might not.
What? Did you get that from google translate?
Same. But the other way around. katakana was really easy for me to learn for some reason.
Who says school is the only place you can get an education?
I know kana and can read about 1800 kanji, what do I win?
Nothing, hurry up and scanlate something.
Sizable amount? What. You can learn it in a couple of hours.
>75%~ of /a/ know both hiragana and katakana
I find this hard to believe. I feel most of you guys just feel like you can.
The term in NEET refers specifically to education backed by some sort of degree or certificate. Otherwise, there won't be a point to it.
People who don't know kana didn't even look at this thread.
>implying they're hard to learn
It only takes a couple of days even if you aren't trying too hard
Those are the best results you're going to get without making some kind of test. The numbers are probably a bit inflated, but kana isn't hard so something close to that isn't wildly difficult to believe.
Knowing/memorizing hira and kata is like the most entry level. There is nothing "hard" to believe because that in itself isn't much of an achievement. It's like how knowing the 26 letters of the alphabet is still very, very far from knowing the English language.
A more accurate poll should be something to do with grammar, even something basic like knowing when to use で or に and so on.
I was under the assumption that learn =/= know. I'm sure that a lot of us have learned kana at one point or another, but this isn't what the poll was asking. You might know what all the kana are at the time you learn them but I doubt you'd "know" them later if you don't keep up your studies for a period of time after. I'm also under the impression that a lot of people learn kana, try to learn Japanese, then get burnt out later.
They're not hard to remember either though. If you use /a/ you get plenty of refreshers on a daily basis to help with memory too. And again, no test=no certainty in the matter.
>I'm also under the impression that a lot of people learn kana, try to learn Japanese, then get burnt out later.
Probably, but that's neither here nor there.
> try to learn Japanese, then get burnt out later
Which defeats the purpose of this poll to begin with.
Nigga I learned both hira and kata on november or something, I still remember them and read really simple stuff here on /a/
It's like you people aren't even trying