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Gentlemen, how do we fix the Sword Fart Online?

(Other than turn it into Log Horizon, anyway)
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Base it on actual MMO-behavior instead of the same old tired tropes.
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Take Kirito, and replace him with Guts. Make all the villains appropriately powerful too.
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>>102259650
I would actually just remove all the MMO tripe and base it on high fantasy.
Fuck knows you MMO kids are fucktards.
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>>102259650
>BR?!?!?!?!111
>LOL I REPORT U
>GIEB MONI
>ITANZ PLOX
>1000K GOLD PLS
Somehow I doubt that would make it better.
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>>102259650
>Base it on actual MMO-behavior

They could have crowds of people screaming the same message over and over.

ATATATATATATATTATATATATATATATTATATATAT Buying shoes

That would make it so exciting and relatable, am I right?
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>>102259522
kill off kirito.

>>102260004
that would actually make the story relatable.
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>>102259522
Make Klein the MC.
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>>102259831
>>102260004
Works for Glass Adjusting Simulator 2014
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>>102259650

Hmmm.
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>>102259522

Make Kirito the MC of just the first 2 episodes.

Kill him brutally in the end of the second episode to show the viewers that people can't survive this if they don't band up together.

Start from scratch with new MC.
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>an entire episode split between AFK'ing at the AH and taking off your clothes and /dance'ing on a fence
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>>102259522
Make Kirito true antisocial dick and antihero, not a "lonely" beater with harem and friends.
Focus on the game and despair of players, not on cute girls doing cute Kirito.
Make story grimderp.
Add depth to Kirito & Asuna romance, so it can be a major part of MC's development.
Give other characters some other traits than "I want to suck Kirito-sama's dick".
Add a spark of light to the death game, not a forced drama to the magical adventure.
No deus ex machina.
Remove fairy shit.
Also bittersweet end is the best end.
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>>102263807
>Add a spark of light to the death game, not a forced drama to the magical adventure.

What does this mean?
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>>102263807
You just described my expactations of SAO when i watched episode 1.
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>>102264157

Go from having SAO be a magical adventure with the forced drama of death to a serious-as-fuck series with some lighter moments.
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>>102264157
SAO feels like some kind of high-fantasy heroic adventure with occasional "people die when they are killed".
It should be a terrifying death game where still sometimes players can experience something wonderful.
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>>102264498
>>102264496
What did you people think of the scene where Kirito's guildmate committed suicide? Say nothing of the execution of it, but what did you think of the event itself?
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>>102265839

I legitimately don't remember that scene.
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>>102265839
It was pretty forced
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>>102265839
Came out of nowhere and was pretty dumb
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>>102266459
It made for a great macro image though.
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>>102260496
This guy got it.
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>>102268325
Eh, the whole anime went about the adaption pretty badly.
Then again, that's probably because the author wrote SAO with very little planning.

When he first wrote SAO, Sachi was a girl Kirito met early in the game, that died, and that's why he avoided guilds. (According to a Q&A when SAO was a web-novel, Sachi was also his first love, so there's that)
Kawahara didn't even write Sachi's story until he was already part-way into the 4th arc.

The anime would have been considerably better if it went the route of his Progressive line-up, with clearing 1 floor at a time.
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>>102266459
>no "PLEASE RESPOND!" when Kirito reaches out for him.
So close to perfect.
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>>102268666
>Kawahara didn't even write Sachi's story until he was already part-way into the 4th arc

So parts of volume 2 are technically newer than the later volumes?
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>>102268893
Yes.
Actually, even Lisbeth's side-story wasn't even written until after Fairy Dance.
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>>102259522
>kinda like what they are doing with progressive, so basically making the story more linear, I mean the whole vol 2 in the anime made the story kinda of a mess.
> have more people die. For a death game there wasnt much people that died.
> More team work/ have Kirito fuck up more. It is a bloody MMO Solo is near impossible
> have the female characters in the group to be better support characters and dont have them wanting the D
> have a bit more foreshadowing for the Willpower>system
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>>102260496
This guy gets it. Also, have him be closer bros with Agil and have a better cast for the samurai class. 10/10 would watch.
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>>102269408
Don't forget to give Agil his original design
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Give the series to Urobuchi.
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>>102269032
>have more people die. For a death game there wasnt much people that died.

A shit load of people died, the problem was that it wasn't on screen.
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>>102269590
More like, none of them were really important characters, and almost all were name-less.
The only people to die on screen, who had names, were Diavel, Keita, Sachi (and their guild, but those were only named in the credits), Godfree, and Kuradeel.

No one cared about Godfree, and Diavel, Keita and Sachi died on the episodes they were introduced (also no one cares who Keita is either). Kuradeel was a villain.
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>>102261447
This but have Klein be the MC. He's actually likeable.
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>>102263807
If Kirito was a true antisocial dick then there would be no romance with Asuna. He'd die off early from being solo all the time.
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>>102265839
>>102266459
I thought it was perfectly justifyable.
>Risk your life every day with friends to earn money for months
>Finally save up enough with everyone to get a guild house.
>Spend your entire hard-earned savings to finally live in peace with the rest of your friends
>Where is everyone?
>"Hey bro, we went into this dungeon, and long story short, everyone's dead."

Can you really blame him?
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>>102269884
>>102269983
>mailto: bump

Why?
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>>102269990
yeah but before someone actually suicide, there a lot of states before, like panic, depression, post traumatic dissorder, isnt like "ohhh no everyone is dead, i need to kill my self fast"
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>>102269990
Considering he's a male side character in SAO, he probably also had an unrequited love with Sachi.
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>>102269990

Dude has a guild house all to himself now though.
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>>102270120
This isn't too far off. The Web Novel had this part here, which hints at that possibility.

>Sachi and I were similar in a lot of ways. We were both socially awkward and of little words. It didn't take long before we started spending the time outside of training together as well.

>The girl said that she was unable to lie to Keita. We met up with Keita together. The leader listened to the girl's words in silence, but after a nod with his usual smile, he told me, "Please take good care of that girl". It seemed that he could not stop himself from revealing that fleeting lonesome expression when we parted.
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Klein is the MC, the anime is about his dailylife with his friend in a only male guild, because no one can actually get girls, everyone act like samurai and enjoy it, there other guild only with woman that some times help klein guild. There two close friend of klein that think that kirito is a edgy faggot, and alway make joke about him, everyone laughs all the time.
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>>102269590
what I mean was kinda this>>102269848.
You can tell me 50% of the player died, but none of the characters connected with the views then it is kinda pointless.
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>>102259522
Simple.

We give them a reason to want out

THEY'RE TRAPPED IN AN MMO FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

I'M SORRY, BUT THERE IS NO PERSON DUMB ENOUGH NOT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHY THIS IS A TERRIBLE FATE


IMAGINE IF SAO WAS MADE BY ZENIMAX


HELL
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>>102270305
10/10 fund it.
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>>102270069
Why ? Why what exactly ? Why is Klein actually likable ? Because he has a personalily that makes him fun to be around unlike Kirito who spends all his time brooding and being antisocial. And in an MMO you don't level up and do well from being antisocial. At least not at the start. Klein was didn't have the whole Mary sue bullshit going on. He knew he wasn't the strongest or smartest. he knew his limitations by himself so was smart enough to work with other people to progress but he never took on more than he could chew and wasn't lying to other people about his level and just being an ass in general.
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>>102270305

Needs more "ARE YOU READY GUYS?!" and "LET'S PARTY"
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>>102270329
Maybe beacuse the life-aid IRL isn't infinite, so they would someday suddenly die
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>>102270414
God dammit anon, I'm asking why you have "bump" in the e-mail field.
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>>102270305
This but in Klein actually would get women. His personality is perfectly suited for it and he's not an edgy faggot like Kirito.
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>>102270568
Oh right. Din't see it. Was just autotexted in there. Corrected now.
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>>102270571
this sound good, his love interest is the other guildmaster there a lot of hate and love between this two guild and in the only woman guild there a trap, and the funny part is that everyone think that the trap is the best girl in the other guild, there a lot of OTPs and their daily life is about things that happen in the mmorpgs like sell things, buying their first guild house, clear dungeon but with their brains and not "gotta go faster", they have guild pet named "nobunaga", there some drama moments like when they joins big raids and someone in their guild die, everyone cry manly tears
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>>102270885
>>102270305

This would be one fanfic I wouldnt mind reading
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>turn it into a boring WORDS WORDS shit
>fix

Nope.
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You don't.
There was little wrong with SAO, you only dislike it as you do because you base how you like a series based on how /a/ reacts to it.
Grow up faggot.
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>>102270305
That sounds wonderful.
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>>102272903
Well jokes on you I hate SAO before i browse /a/.
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>>102270885
>this sound good, his love interest is the other guildmaster there a lot of hate and love between this two guild and in the only woman guild there a trap, and the funny part is that everyone think that the trap is the best girl in the other guild, there a lot of OTPs and their daily life is about things that happen in the mmorpgs like sell things, buying their first guild house, clear dungeon but with their brains and not "gotta go faster", they have guild pet named "nobunaga", there some drama moments like when they joins big raids and someone in their guild die, everyone cry manly tears
There is not a single period in this block of text. Bravo, anon.

Yen Press, pls pick up Progressive thx.
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>>102272903
What's good about it?
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>>102272903
Sorry faggot, I hated SAO long before I started coming to /a/. Shitty protagonists do that to series.
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>>102275353
Apparently they've just picked up Accel World's manga, Ubel Blatt and Barakamon.
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>>102275353
I really want to see how much Progressive actual improve the story.
I wish more author would rewrite some of their LN like IS even if IS>SAO
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>>102259522

You replace Kirito with anybody else and the show will fix itself.

/thread
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>>102259522
1 -Make more focus on the world and the dungeons, like showing all the kinds of traps and the struggle to get to the boss.
2- Make other characters with special skills, and make them have other factions.
3- Make so that the fucking girl isn't a A.I. who has access to the fucking game code, but make her a girl who managed to exploit a bug in the game without knowing.
4- Don't make the fucking game end at the middle of it.
5- Make a boss rush at the end and then make the fucking final battle against the admin.



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