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There was a Welcome to the NHK thread the other day and someone said this.

"
>all these shows about lonely otaku
>the cure to their problems? a girl, EVERY TIME
i swear it really does sound like a conspiracy
>hey young people of Japan, government here, start fucking more will ya
"

But it's not just a Japanese thing. The movies in my image do the same thing, but they're disgusting 3D. Where is this coming from? What is this mold and why is it so prevalent? What are the defining pieces that make it? Is there anything besides Welcome to the NHK that subverts it?
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It's the same reason people say the solution to introversion is to just go out and get a girlfriend.
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>>102250234
What's the reason for that?
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>>102250164
Girls changing guys appeals to women's fantasies. They are the main market for this stuff.

Guys just self-insert (get the girl) and either ignore the plot or make cringe threads.

>>102250347
Inability to understand people are simply different and there is nothing wrong with that. Introversion isn't really a problem itself.
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>>102250347
People place a lot of emphasis on having a romantic partner.
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Most people are obsessed with fucking and think it's the solution to all problems, news at eleven.
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>>102250591
>Most people are obsessed with fucking

This is what normalfag sluts actually believe.
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>>102250164
It's as if OP's never heard of Manic Pixie Girlfriends and the crapload of material about them.
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>>102250681
>Manic Pixie Girlfriends
I remember seeing that on tvtropes a long time ago. I went to look it up, and guess what else is about manic pixie girls?
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>>102250681
Just because you can name the trope OP was describing doesn't mean you're in any way solving the problem.
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>>102250618
And most people are normalfag sluts. Shocking.
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It's a romantic story mechanic. Why people interpret it as the gubbement trying to brainwash them is beyond me.

A much more effective way would be to reinstate active conscription and send the unsocial elements who refuse to serve or pose a threat to everyone else into labor camps.

A few years of back breaking labor and lean meals would do wonders to the people browsing /a/.
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>>102250979
>being this brainwashed by the media
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>>102251016
Who exactly?
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>>102250234

How do I get friends if I'm introverted? Seriously, fuck everyone who says "Go outside, be yourself". That doesn't fucking work and you know it.
You don't just go talking to random people outside. Do normal people do this? I think not.
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>>102250164
>Where is this coming from?

Manic Pixie Girlfriend
The trope exists because a lot of stories have one thing in common, they are written by introverts. Introverts usually arent that great with talking to girls, so they want a girl to appear in their lives and be very confident and aggressive to get the relationship moving. Mainly because introverts are afraid of rejection, and if the girl is one making the first moves, then the boy has the power to reject them or not, which of course they wont. Even if they do, the new girlfriend will just be persistent. Weird flip of gender roles huh? Introverted boys sound like girls, and manic pixie girlfriends sound like alpha boys.

Writers write this. Other introverts buy it.

Also keep in mind that MPG's have no agenda or agency of their own, which is why they are a bad trope. FLCL for example doesnt have an MPG, they just have a very confident and sexual female lead.
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>>102251093
Just go out and be yourself, anon.
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>>102251093
Just go out and be yourself, anon.
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>>102251093
>You don't just go talking to random people outside.

You've never randomly ended up in a conversation with someone at a bus stop or anything like that?
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>>102250618
But he's right. It's when people start having real problems and see that sex doesn't solve them when they stop being so obsessed over it.
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>>102251319
Not him, but no. How the fuck does that even happen?
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>>102251093
>You don't just go talking to random people outside.

You've never randomly ended up in a conversation with someone at a bus stop or anything like that?
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>>102251338
I don't know.
You're both just waiting for a bus and the other guy starts complaining about the weather or something. Happens all the time
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>>102251338
have you tried being handsome?
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>>102250347
People being retarded and giving trite advice.
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>>102251373
Ah, that's probably where I was going wrong. Thanks anon.
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>>102251338
Being confident, and genuinely interested in something usually helps.

The people you imagine in your head, and the way they react, dont exist in the real world. Most people are pretty timid and polite.
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The Japanese government actually has a program to send young women to try and coax hikkis out of their rooms so it's not entirely unfounded I guess.
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>>102251268
>>102251306
No! You don't understand!
*cuts self on edge

>>102251319
No. I can't remember the last time someone I didn't know tried to talk to me outside of being forced to say "here's your change" or something like that.

>>102251418
That's hot.
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>>102251093
"Be yourself" is horrible advice spread by people who don't know what it's like to be "unconventional". I wish I had never bought into that bullshit.

My advice would be always try to be better
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>>102250347
It gets you spending money, obviously.
You shut yourself in your room and live off the absolute minimum and you're hardly going to spend any money!
Figurines don't count, not in your local scope. They want you spending money on their business, or their partner's business.
What is more costly than maintaining a relationship? A relationship that the media tells you requires buying gifts, going to various stores and events, spending, spending, spending.
Money is GOD, anon!
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>Be's self
>Stays inside watching anime and listening to Touhou.
FUCK IT'S NOT WORKING
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>>102250234
What does that even mean? Introversion has nothing to do with how autistic and socially awkward you are. It just means that being around a bunch of people tires you, and you need time for yourself to recharge. You could still be a fucking social butterfly and love people just as much.
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>>102251484
You just got to be yourself more, anon. Then it will start working
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>>102251407
>genuinely interested

There's no way to guarantee that I'm going to be interested in something said to me by a complete stranger at a bus stop.
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>>102251434
>No. I can't remember the last time someone I didn't know tried to talk to me outside of being forced to say "here's your change" or something like that.

Probably a cultural thing.
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>>102251319
Every time this has began to happen, it has been the most awkward and unenjoyable experience of my day. I can't force the enthusiasm about stupid shit that is brought up.
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>>102251093
What people mean with "go out and be yourself" is get drunk as hell on a Friday night at your local pub. Then your brain will stop functioning properly, and you'll say something dumb to someone Since that someone is also drunk, he/she will start talking to you about dumb shit, and you'll end up being bro's for life after a few existential arguments.

Of course, if that's not your thing (be it because you don't like drinking, or because your brain keeps working well enough to tell you that guy is a retard), then you're pretty much fucked. Your only option is to get a job, or go take some classes, interacting with the people there, go to the dinners/parties, etc. And obviously, even that is not gonna work wonders. But people is usually polite and understanding. Just saying hello, how are you every day is a good starting point.
>>102251319
Sometimes. But it was a one time thing. I mean, you usually don't keep their e-mail, phone number or anything.
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>>102251519
People use introvert as a colloquial for socially awkward.
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Being introverted is fine as long as your professional career isn't related to business.
I know because I have it rough.
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>>102251484
You forgot about the "go outside" part, man. Go outside, watch anime on your phone and listen to touhou with earphones. That is sure to work.
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>Incredibly introverted
>Playing Halo 1 with some guys on /v/
>Incredibly scared of doing poorly for team
>It's text chat
>Decide to type something I found funny
>Oh god, I'm being social! I'm not gonna fuck this up like I did the last time...
>Heart rate increases
>Eyes affixed to chat hoping no one says anything mean

I'm just not cut out for this...
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>>102250164
Kinda unrelated.
I usually travel back home on buses with portable DVDs for the people to forget the horror of travelling. The busdrivers get shitty pirated movies. Anyway, I've noticed many movies nowadays deal with divorces, a guy marrying a woman with kids, that kind of thing.
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>>102251583
Seems like people just classify themselves as introverted instead of shy/socially inept/autistic.

Being afraid of picking up the phone and talking to strangers has nothing to do with introversion at all, stop glorifying your awkwardness.
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>>102251093
>You don't just go talking to random people outside. Do normal people do this?
That's actually what they do. It's fascinating, really.
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>>102251623
I can relate to everything you just wrote.
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>>102251623
/v/ isn't exactly the nicest bunch, I hope you got lucky with the people you ended up talking with.
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>>102251623
Follow my personal recipe.
Pretend to fucking believe what you're saying and condemn anybody who doesn't think it was funny. Keep talking. Online chat has the advantage of not affecting your real life, so it's like a perpetual training place. Eventually, you'll get the gist of what's funny and what isn't, but this is just like workout: it doesn't happen from one day to the next.
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>>102251319
Not really. Someone once asked me if I had some cigarettes with me, but that's all.
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>>102251623
I feel this way even when posting on 4chan sometimes. I don't think I could handle playing with guys from 4chan.
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>>102251654
To be fair it's hard to distinguish an introvert from an extrovert unless you spend a lot of time around someone. So most people never really see the supposed distinction between the two.
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>>102251656
The original target demographic are all dealing with their divorces and second attempts at marriage now, I suppose.
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>>102250164
But in Welcome to the NHK the girl doesn't solve his problem at all. Almost dying of starvation does.
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>>102251569
If you don't enjoy moaning about buses then there's nothing I can do to help you.
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>>102251656
Well, it gives you the "warm" feeling of a man playing with kids that are not their... wait, in real life that man would be in jail for being a pederast.

No, seriously, I even read recently an article where people (read men) said that they were afraid of interacting with kids because they would end up causing more problems that it's worth, to the point where some even ignored lost children crying, and went on hoping a woman would stop and help them. This is so fucked up.
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>>102251756
I like to close my eyes and enjoy the vibrations as we all drive along on shitty roads ;_;
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>>102251777
Thanks g-d I live in a third world country. At the very least, people aren't that crazy here. Only with religion I guess, but religion is good for them.
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>>102251736
Yeah, I suppose it's hard to notice a non-shy introverted person, but you should at least be able to figure out for yourself what you gravitate towards.
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>>102251418
>The Japanese government actually has a program to send young women to try and coax hikkis out of their rooms so it's not entirely unfounded I guess.
What is this even called?
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>>102251319
I hate when a guy in a bus starts talking. I hate it so much.
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>>102251213

>FLCL for example doesn't have an MPG

Oh /a/non...

FLCL is a subversion of the trope so it has two

Haraharaharu is the MPDGF who wants MC for what he has (The Gold-digger)

Samejima is the MPDGF who wants MC to fill a void left by someone else (The damaged Goods)


It subverts it as he ends up with the only stable one interested in him for him (Eri)
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>>102251093
>How do I get friends if I'm introverted?

Are you studying? I met a lot of people during intro week, just sat down and chatted in the lecture hall and such.
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>>102251434
>>102251569
>>102251726

Where do you all live that random chatting doesn't happen at bus stops? Is /a/ full of Finns?
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>>102251777
After my father died my uncle became very distant with me. About a decade and a half later, I finally started talking with him again because he has become very ill. I don't know why I asked, maybe I was getting emotional, but I asked.. why did he stop visiting, and why did he stop having me over to visit? He got really choked up and said that he thought he would only make things worse, and that no one wanted him to be around since his brother had died.
Consider this my anecdotal agreement with you, it's an unfair society.
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>>102251875
>he ends up with the only stable one interested in him for him (Eri)
Nope. Sorry.
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>>102251884
Norway, it doesn't happen at all.
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> Where is this coming from? What is this mold and why is it so prevalent?

Something about going out, get with some random 3DPD and make kids or you'll die alone and betraying your lineage?

I think it's pretty pointless.
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>>102251747
Reading comprehension.
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>>102251884
Australia. I don't make eye contact with anyone at bus stops for fear of being beaten up.
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>>102251696
But the even more fucked up thing. No one was mean, we had fun. But it made me feel incredibly depressed. It's like IRL. Once in a blue moon there's dialogue exchanged by people. But this interaction is meaningless. It means nothing. I'm not forming some kind of deep connection with that person. Words are just escaping each other mouths. And it just made my heartache because I felt like there's something more that I wanted.

Jesus christ, what I wrote reads like something out of a highschool girls diary.

Unreleated, I think I'm paranoid. The only places I communicate w/ people online is 4Chan. I hate lack of anonymity on other sites, facebook / twitter.
I'm proud to say that if you google my name nothing will ever come up.
That halo1 chat was not something I'd typically ever do.

>>102251881
I failed out of community college my 1st semester anon.
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>>102251884
I live in Los Angeles. It happens, but I have been told I give off this aura of not wanting to be talked to. Maybe I also am quite ugly? I would fuck up any conversation I became a part of regardless, so it works out rather nicely.
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>>102251919
This

Talking to strangers is just fucking wierd
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>>102251093
Join some club or something. The important thing is to maximise the number of interactions with new people. It takes time but finally you'll find someone who is on the same wavelength.
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>>102251884
In the particular area of Murrica where I live you do not want to be at a bus stop, period.
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>>102251834
I'd say a majority or at least large number of introverted people are naturally shy so they assume that all the other introverts are shy like them because they don't know that the guy who's able to naturally carry on conversation with a group of people he's never met is actually really drained by the experience. It's one of those perception versus reality situations.

>>102251852
Something to the effect of the Big Sister Program.
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>>102251949
>but I have been told I give off this aura of not wanting to be talked to
Do you day dream a lot?
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>>102251623
>Halo 1
>/v/
You brought this upon yourself.
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>>102251875
>It subverts it as he ends up with the only stable one interested in him for him (Eri)
Damn, such denial.
He ends up alone. Because that's the best option. Whether he gets into a relationship with Eri or not, FLCL doesn't say. But even in that case it would be because he grew up and did it himself, that's the point.
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>>102251939
What about old men? Old men are usually the most up for random chatting here.
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>>102251950
>Jesus christ, what I wrote reads like something out of a highschool girls diary.
You are the little girl. Please share your boobs.
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>>102251884
I live in Texas. There aren't buses.
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>>102251884
Latin America. People are warm and talkative, but buses are just a no-no.
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>>102251949
>I have been told I give off this aura of not wanting to be talked to.
Are you me?
Although I think it's because I have an angry face. I'm not really ugly per se. I've been told I'm rather attractive by complete strangers at times.
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>>102251950
> But this interaction is meaningless. It means nothing. I'm not forming some kind of deep connection with that person.
I run into this sentiment a lot, and it really depresses me. I can actually get very connected and into a conversation over the net or over text. Sometimes I'll feel like I'm making a meaningful connection, only to have the other person start complaining that they don't have any friends, and that the internet doesn't count and that I don't count, it's just text it means nothing..
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>>102251418
but what about female hikki? they send hosts to get them or something?
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>>102251434
>*actions
Fuck off
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>>102251998
Like I said, I don't make eye contact with anyone.
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>>102251950
Hahaha what a fucking faggot
I'm the same, my extroverted friend keeps introducing me to people I don't give a shit about
Please keep talking shit about my waifu, it's a deeper connection than anything IRL ;_;
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>>102252012
>>102252002
>>102251961
I don't just mean bus stops, but anywhere where strangers will be standing around. Do short bursts of talking never happen?
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>>102251884
It's complicated.
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>>102251950
Sounds like you're more depressed than solitary.
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>>102252028
I don't know, but they're probably such a minority that they don't worry about it. Can't save everyone I guess.
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>>102251969
>Big Sister Program
I'd buy that doujin
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>>102251909
>>102251986


Yeah, I guess one of the guys could've sucked off their drink and handed it to him at the end and it totally wouldn't mean anything at all.

Symbolism is lost on the daft.
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>>102251976
is that bad ;_;
>>102252019
I don't quite know what it is, maybe it's the combination of body language. No eye contact, looking lost in thought, hunching over, etc etc etc.. though I probably am fairly ugly as well. I can't fault people for not wanting to get involved.
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>>102252040
He's not just shit posting. He's ironically shit posting. Learn the difference; it could save your life!
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>>102251884
>Is /a/ full of Finns?
No, but I am finn and leave in the middle of nowhere. But let's not derail this into a Finnish thread.
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>>102252050
>my extroverted friend keeps introducing me to people I don't give a shit about
Holy shit I know how that is.
My friend/roommate brings over some random friend every other day it seems and tries to introduce me to them. I really don't care to though since I'm never going to see them again anyways.
Seriously, how does someone even get 2k fb friends? It's beyond me.
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>>102251093
>How do I get friends if I'm introverted?

Learn how to act social (seriously, you can read about this--and I don't mean PUA books,) gain knowledge on interesting-but-not-aspie topics, get involved in something that brings you into contact with people, and while you're there show interest in the people around you and try to keep up at least a tiny bit of conversation. Even if you're not pumped up by social contact like an extrovert you can at least try to be an enjoyable person to be around. If you run into any with shared interests or perspectives on life, keep in contact somehow and you got yourself a friend. For bonus points, if they're female and are open to romantic interest, you got yourself a girlfriend too.

Just don't be the person who gets involved in something and then sits in the corner and won't talk to anyone. I have friends like that, and they see "being introverted" as a reason to act like a tree stump around their friends instead of smiling and joining the conversation.

I used to be totally alone and socially terrified, but I realized that wasn't getting me anywhere so I just started going out and doing shit that'd force me to interact with people. I felt weird but got used to it after a while. Part of what I did really was striking up conversation with random strangers if I felt there was any natural-sounding way I could do it. You're probably not gonna make any friends that way, but it's like grinding for social XP.

By the way, don't take a lot of /a/'s advice on how you should or shouldn't socialize too seriously, Looking now at the stuff people say here a lot of it is either from people in school or people who never matured past the age of being in school. That kind of mindset doesn't really apply to the real world once you're an adult unless you live in some hillbilly town.
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>>102250995
Nope, that's false. I'm a serving conscript (mechanic) and still act weird as fuck.
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>>102252086
Well, if something happens (like a car accident, bank service being horribad, bus' gas runs out) they'll joke about it and complain about the government/system/bus driver/whatever, but it doesn't happen in normal circumstances
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>>102252122
>is that bad ;_;
They probably just think you're trying to concentrate.
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>>102251735
I will respond to your post, and I hope your day is a little brighter anon.
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>>102251541
Careful you don't tip that fedora too much.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKFiGnPNwas
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>>102252140
Scratch that, let's.
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>>102252024

I mean, sometimes I feel that connection. I don't think what you took the time to write is meaningless. But this is just ephemeral and will disappear. I've just never made any friends online because this connection isn't maintained.

The paranoia I wrote about makes it especially hard for me. I can't form a connection between online and IRL because of it. Even if I wish I was able to form a connection between someone online my paranoia wouldn't allow it.
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Don't these idiots understand that most NEETs have no clue how romantic relationships work or how to initiate one?
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>>102252200
There is nothing edgy about what he said, you shouldn't have to force interest in some stranger's off-hand comments.
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>>102252158
It got really bad when he told me he had a friend he wanted me to talk to, so we both went to the pub and I met him. Except it was a her. I thought Whatever, I started talking to her and we had a nice time. The day after, my friend asked me if I got to kiss her, and only then did I realize he had set me up for a date.
/blog
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>>102252200
It's true though. What's a stranger likely to say?
"Gee, the weather's been shit lately, hasn't it?" That's not interesting.
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>>102251654
Yeah that's a big problem, I used to be the same. I'm still introverted, but I don't have any problem talking to strangers anymore, It's just unlikely I'll strike up a conversation.
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>>102252200
>tip that fedora
This whole thread may be cancerous off-topic garbage, but you're the biggest piece of shit in this thread right now.
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>>102252214
I used to skii in Kauniainen because I'm poor. Parents took me to Austria during skii break. There's web filter, it's hell.
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>>102251950
I'm in a World of Tanks clan from people from /a/ and /vg/. Teamspeak on weekend nights is like some kind of surreal party. I'd like to see what meeting these people IRL would be like, even if we did end up killing each other.
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>>102252185
You actually made me smile a little, thanks.
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>>102250995
>A much more effective way would be to reinstate active conscription and send the unsocial elements who refuse to serve or pose a threat to everyone else into labor camps.
You know what, that would be beneficial. If you find the one field they're good at and pay them for it, they might overcome many issues.
However, introversion isn't a disease, so you'll simply make capable introverts.

Some say this is why the gubmints allow wars to happen.
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>>102252205
That's my jam!
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>>102252002
fuck, you live in east texas or the border towns?
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>>102252288
>Some say this is why the gubmints allow wars to happen.
The CIA creates wars so that the USA can bleed away autists.
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>>102252266
>I used to skii in Kauniainen because I'm poor
>poor
Just stop it already ;_;
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>>102252274
>World of Tanks clan from people from /a/ and /vg/
Which one? And is it fun?
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>>102251884

This is how we make friends in Scotland.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixyCT47LGzY
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>>102251925
Less comprehension and more not reading to the end, but apologies regardless.
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>>102252327
>Welcome to the CIA!
I'd watch it.
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>>102252235
I probably never would have picked up on it either man. But still, if you both went to a pub as a group of 3 that would've been really fucking wierd. That's not really a date imo. As a side note, I hate it when your friends try to indirectly help you instead of just being up front about it. One of my best friends tried to pull something like that in the most obnoxious way imaginable. Haven't spoken to him in years.
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>>102252327
Maybe, maybe not.
All my uncles think a war would benefit today's youth because not being completely free to do what you want gives you a backbone and the wish to do something no matter what (namely protect your family)
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>>102252235
>The day after, my friend asked me if I got to kiss her, and only then did I realize he had set me up for a date.

That's pretty damn oblivious of you. He actually left you with a girl? What did she do?
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>>102252219
Well, how do you want to keep contact with anyone if you are completely anonymous? I mean, sure, we could have a good conversation now, discuss something, and make a connection... and as soon as the thread dies, it's over. There's no way I can ever find you again, and there's no way for you to find me either (unless there's something really noticeable, like how I can recognize my useless sidekick in MH threads by his filenames). Being anonymous is great, and I think of many of you as my friends. That's the reason I keep coming back. But the truth is, I don't know who you are, and I can't even connect two of your posts together.
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>>102252376
Always read the question first, Anon.
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>>102252158
>>102252235
screw you guys, people assume I have a healthy and well-developed social life because I have a wide circle of acquaintances, but I have noone to talk to or hang out with when I get home, I wish someone would try introducing me to their friends.
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>>102252249
But it starts the flow of a conversation. During it, you may notice something, another subject may come through, and something more interesting may start. If you don't interact with anyone, that's not gonna happen.
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>>102252362
Exactly. Everyone in this thread should all come to Scotland and hang out at bus stops.
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>>102252392
>But still, if you both went to a pub as a group of 3 that would've been really fucking wierd
I think I forgot to mention he got the hell outta there after we were introduced.
>>102252397
>What did she do?
She just talked to me about stuff. Thankfully I've been trained in social environments so I followed the topic and didn't talk about unrelated shit, it was ok I guess. I made her laugh, I laughed at her comments.
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>>102252441
I'm no good with people. That shit is too advanced for me.
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Didn't the girls make life even worse in Welcome to the NHK?
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>>102252395
That's a pretty shit reason to start killing who knows how many people.
Just go with the labor camp idea mentioned above, forcing NEETs into war sounds like a good way to create a powder keg of technical know-how and odd thought patterns.
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>>102252435
Yeah, and if your roommate kept trying to introduce you to some random person you'll never see again every other day you'll just end up with an even wider circle of acquaintances.
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>>102252395
My country's millitary is fighting in a country an ocean away. They aren't protecting their families.
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>>102252435
>I wish someone would try introducing me to their friends
No, seriously, you don't. If you want to meet people, you have to do it on your own. Get in a group you like (NOT A FUCKING ANIME CLUB, SOMETHING THAT MAKES YOU A BETTER PERSON) and talk to everyone about unconsequential stuff.
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>>102252288
Nah. Wars happen because they allow people to unite against an enemy. Patriotism and all that shit. Why do you think the USA is so patriotic? Because they've been at war thorough all their history.
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>>102252473
That's why Welcome to the NHK subverts the trope. See >>102251925
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>>102252482
It doesn't need to be true for them to be convinced it is the case.
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>>102252475
Well, the fact that post-wars tend to be full of development and riches might be part of their argument. I'm just saying what my family thinks.
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It's wish-fulfillment.

Not just for friendless introverts, lots of people are unsatisfied with their life in some way. And for various vaguely Oedipal reasons, they want someone who will simultaneously nurture them and make them into a better person but also be fun and have sex with them.
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>>102252284
You're welcome. In fact, hey, do you have a PS3 or something? We could be buddies if you'd like to.
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>>102252531
Of course.
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well the only thing that feels better than sex is drugs that give more dopamine
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>>102252550
Everything is Oedipal in nature if you read into it enough.
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>>102252233
>>102252249
>>102252260

See, that's the thinking that makes it impossible to socialize. You don't fucking talk with the guy at the bus stop because his comment about the weather is intellectually enlightening on a profound level. You talk with him because his small talk is a kind of basic socializing that a lot of people enjoy when they're around other people.

"Hey anon, looks like bad weather to be sitting at a bus stop." "Yeah, I should have brought my skis." [socializes externally]
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>>102251735
I've found out that when you meet 4chan fags individually (say, via IRC chat, skype or even IRL) they're way mellower and nicer than most people. You could try starting a small chat group.
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>>102250618
Abnormals are particularly obsessed with sex. Have you ever seen an anime or read a manga?
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>>102252626
I would rather be psychologically dependent on drugs.
Not that I've ever JAMMED IT IN.
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>>102251623
I would ask for your steam id and ask you to play some video games together, but I feel so pathetic about that I prefer having no friends and enjoying no games than doing that. At least I can continue enjoying my anime, just how I have done for years no-
>barely enjoys watching anime at this point, but continues out of love for stories
Well, such is live.
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>>102252635
I'm sorry, but if a stranger ever said "tip that fedora" to me irl, or some variation thereof I'd probably snap.
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>>102252635
and then I make a joke about cancer or war atrocities and it's a fucking mess, I'm not walking into that landmine AGAIN.
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>>102251827
>g-d
pfft
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>>102252350

PLSGO. It's kind of a tryhard clan with a bunch of odd people in it, but other than a few professional trolls they're cool. From what I hear PZMOE is a pretty chill group of people to hang with.
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>this thread
I'd sign a contract to become a female cum dump for /a/nons if it allowed me to help them with their problems ;_;
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>>102252560
My experience with game consoles ends with GBA, sorry to disappoint.
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>>102252633
Freud please.
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>>102252703
>fucking mess

Worse that happens is they get awkward. No one's going to stab you over some edgy humour.
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>>102252641
was part of a small skype chat group started on /soc/ with a handful of /a/nons. slowly, people started inviting others with similar interests, and a couple weeks later there was one normalfag who would constantly post giant blogs and antagonize the chat. The whole thing is basically dead now, but he still dumps lengthy blogs and "epic 4chan lulz" from /b/
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>>102252703
That's the thing: he was a stranger. Maybe it was terrible, but you can just move to the next stranger, and use your new learned knowledge about not making cancer or war atrocities jokes.
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>>102252633

Well Freud is garbage so I don't want to interpret it too deeply, but there's something vaguely motherly about the stereotype. You want a woman who will nurture you and protect you and free you from having to make decisions about your life, but you also want a woman you can have sex with. That's not Oedipal in the technical sense of the word, but there's certainly something incestuous about the whole thing.
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>>102252515
I just wish that one day we will be able to unite on base that we live the same fucking planet and we are basically the same fucking species.

And then we will find aliens, we will decided they are a threat, attack them and get killed.

Fucking humanity, I swear.
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>>102252703
which reminds me, this one time I mistook some Jane Goodall inspired movie for the movie Congo. Holy shit, that poor girl's face when I started talking about the white apes tearing that guy's eyes out..
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>>102252727
I-it's a joke from my IRC friends ok?
I can't take it easy here anymore! ;_;
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>>102252761
Being a cum dump won't help.
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>>102252672
Just play games with him for fucks sake. You don't have to suck his dick or anything.
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>>102252804
>not making cancer or war atrocities jokes.
WHAT GOOD IS SOCIALIZING THEN?
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If you can't deal with girls you should become gay. Seriously, gay people are incredibly welcoming, plus they sleep with just about anyone.
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>>102252752
I wish I was on NA. EU clans seem a bit ded.
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>>102252865
Are you sure? We should try and see
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Favorite Garden State moment?
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>>102252641
They really are, assuming you aren't dealing with the type of ERP-obsessed faggots in places like the steam friends general.
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>>102252806
Man... every person that wants a serious relationship looks for someone that would nurture them (personally), that somehow protects you (of being alone, and who you can also protect), and that helps you make hard decision (be it by being a factor in them, or by giving you advice), but that you can also have sex with. It's the definition of a good, fulfilling relationship, man.
>>102252883
Well, then keep doing it, and wait until you find someone that enjoys them like you.
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>>102252888
Yeah just, you know, morph into one.
It's like the Wonder Twins, except lonely
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>>102252924
Being a cum dump won't solve anything, end of discussion.

>>102252888
>Seriously, gay people are incredibly welcoming, plus they sleep with just about anyone
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>>102252928
Throwing that piece of shit in the bin.
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>>102252928
Wearing garbage bags and shouting into the abyss.
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>>102252641
Which IRC channel do you usually meet anons?
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>>102250347
Partners really keep you on your toes, and a part of society. (gotta work to pay for her shit, gotta keep your den clean to meet her standards, gotta socialize with her, etc etc)
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>>102252771
Aw. That's okay though, we can always be friends here, right?
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>>102253029
>gotta work to pay for her shit
Sounds like a leech to me.
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>>102252806
Everyone wants to be taken care of.
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>Well Freud is garbage so I don't want to interpret it too deeply, but there's something vaguely fatherly about the stereotype. You want a man who will nurture you and protect you and free you from having to make decisions about your life, but you also want a man you can have sex with. That's not Oedipal in the technical sense of the word, but there's certainly something incestuous about the whole thing.
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>>102252883
m8, no one will mind jokes like that as long as you're not awkwardly giggling like a huge aspie when you try to tell them
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>>102251949
>I give off this aura of not wanting to be talked to.

Lately I have really started wondering if I somehow have this. From my viewpoint I do everything "normal" people do, but it doesn't lead anywhere. I don't manage to make any new friends or anything.

And since I don't know what the hell I'm missing I don't know how to fix it.
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>>102252771
Have you played Golden Sun?
I wish there was a PC Advance Wars with multiplayer..
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>>102250164
Maybe the cure for being a NEET or hikki IS getting a girlfriend.

Having someone who is a friend helps with loneliness
Having someone love you or care about you also helps
Having someone to talk to improves your social skills
Having someone who cares enough about you to help you better yourself
Wanting to better yourself for that person, to improve both your lives
Having someone who loves you boosts your confidence

I dont see how it wouldnt be unhelpful.

Problem is, the amount of women who are willing to devote themselves to loving someone flawed is growing smaller and smaller. Why spend time helping sokeone when you could be getting railed by niggers.
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>>102253109
Is there a way to system link over a GBA emulator?
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>>102253079
Remember to meet her standards, too.
And remember to empty her litterbox or she'll scratch EVERYTHING.
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>>102253127
>implying women can be friends
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>>102253019
Mine is pretty small and mostly /g/, I tried to get some /a/nons there but they deserted the place. Too bad.
Email
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>>102253079
You could say the same about at least half of /a/, so I think it's a little hypocritical to say that. Also assuming you don't get empowered wymyn they'll clean and cook for you, which really makes up financially for the burden women put on their partners
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>>102252703

You need to be self-aware when it comes to how you act around people, that's all.

Bad end:
"Hey anon, sure is rainy today."
"You know, after Hiroshima was bombed the countryside was covered in radioactive black rain."
"Uhh..."

Good end:
"Hey anon, sure is rainy today."
"Yeah, reminds me of when I was at college in xxx town"
"You went there too? My buddy just graduated. Small world."

True end:
"Hey anon, sure is rainy today."
"Yeah, reminds me of when I was at college in xxx town"
"You went there too? My buddy just graduated. Small world."
"Oh?"
"Yeah, really. Actually, she's new to this area. You two should meet. Gotta warn you though, she's into this anime shit."
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>>102252928
>Favorite Garden State moment?
How about least?

It's when actor boy and pixie girl are alone in the pool, pixie starts swimming towards actor, the camera is a birds eye view, and music starts playing. That scene is so saccharine I want to punch something.
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>>102253127
It's unrealistic to hope for such a situation. Besides, do you think you deserve unconditional love? Do you want to be someone's "project"?
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I tried to make some small talk with the waitress at the local cafeteria. I joked that people who worked there could probably eat as much as they want, she just said no and walked away.
I've been avoiding that place ever since then.
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>>102253199
>"Hey anon, sure is rainy today."
>"You know, after Hiroshima was bombed the countryside was covered in radioactive black rain."
>"Uhh..."
I'd watch an anime about cute /a/utists
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>>102252897

Aren't NOFUN and SOFUN on EU? I think there's an active GUP clan too.
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>>102253127
The real cure is having no funds from parents and forcing yourself to get out of the house and work.
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Are you stupid? Romance and sex are a massive part of just being a person in society.
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>>102253199
Bad end is the most interesting ;_;
That's just how my thoughts flow, I love little factoids like that.
Did you know the corium at Chernobyl is still above ambient temperature? It is classified as a lava. Still!
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>meet anon IRL
>same college so I try to get to know him
>engineering major? tell me some cool things you're learning
>i-i'm just in it for the money
>oh okay, uh do you like any books/films/shows/games?
>I don't read anything and most films are boring
>did you see pacific rim? you'd like it
>nah it's just a rip off of anime
>so you like anime/manga? do you read Pun Pun?
>no I don't read... I was watching madoka again the other day
>which meguca is your favorite?
>k-k-kyouko
>so you like the ateilier games I'm guessing? what are they like?
>fun...
>OK, are you looking forward to bravely default?
>no...
>bus makes it to school and anon spaghetti slides out of there

That conversation was really depressing... I just wanted to be your friend man.
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>>102253127
>the amount of women who are willing to devote themselves to loving someone flawed is growing smaller and smaller.
Don't worry anon... That pool of eligibles should open up when you reach your late 30s or 40s.
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>>102253041
Yeah, s-sure.
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Finnish cows say "amuu" instead of regular "moo."
One day, a cow decided to move to the city, so he goes to a shop nearby and starts talking to the clerk.
"I was planing to move into the city, and I was hoping you could tell me about the norms and what kind of things people do in the city, and see if you could help me out."
"Ilman muuta?"
The cow then started saying "am~"
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>>102253157
Thanks. I laffed.
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Why dont you become the girl?

Become your inner girl, and help an anon by being his friend/girlfriend in an online relationship.

Find a chat service and talk there, youd be surprized how meaningful online relationships can be, and if you want to make some poor anon's life better by being his gal then i dont see the harm.
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>>102253334
Holy shit that's awesome. Can people live there?
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>>102253109
I've never heard of it to be honest.
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>>102253127

A girlfriend _can_ add those things to your life, but going into a relationship looking for that is unhealthy and at worst dangerous. It's a better idea to try and make yourself as good a person as pososible by yourself, THEN start dating and see how it additionally helps you.

Actually, I did know a guy who was a medical-grade social anxiety case case. He met a girl on some anime site (probably MAL or some shit) and two years later they were married, living together, and they both went to school and got decent jobs. They were both fat, though.
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>>102253199
>Gotta warn you though, she's into this anime shit.
Ok, I laughed.
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>>102253398
NHK, go away.
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>>102253404
>never heard of Golden Sun
Please tell me you lived under a rock and are not underage.
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>>102253341
>tfw you find out you're more into anime than /a/non and it makes you feel like a complete loser who is probably going to die before finishing college
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>>102253346
>sloppy seconds
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>>102253346
>wanting a woman fresh off of the cock carousel
>ever
if you hit 30 and don't have a partner, you either go to a church to find one or you live as a wizard for the rest of your life
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>>102253398
That worked so well for Satou.
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>>102251484
>listening to a game
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>>102253402
Pic related to help answer that question.
>>102253404
It's a very fun traditional RPG with a unique magic/summon system. I recommend playing it.
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>>102253346
>That pool of eligibles should open up when you reach your late 30s or 40s
Obviously, at that age they're aware of the 30yo wizard powers and want them to become eternally young
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The truth is that you can't cure social isolation on your own, despite what some tough guys on the internet might tell you. You need to talk with a family member or get some professional help, you have a very serious psychological condition that is ruining your life.
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>>102253518

Tell that to my 1TB of doujin music.
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>>102253346
If we don't have sex robots in twenty years the human race wasn't meant to be happy.
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>>102253250
They are. I guess I should apply to NOFUN, but it's not that easy for me.
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for a few hours people from some anime club gonna watch some anime should i go there ? i feel awkward coming there
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>this thread
Oh yeah and you guys get mad when I make a thread about Melon Pan.
Fucking autists.
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>>102253540
>The truth is that you can't cure social isolation on your own, despite what some tough guys on the internet might tell you. You need to talk with a family member or get some professional help, you have a very serious psychological condition that is ruining your life.
>You can't cure a psychological problem on your own.
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>>102253428
>They were both fat, though.
way to ruin the story
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>>102253590
We can talk about Melon Pan here, if you want to.
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>>102253334

You see, you can say stuff like that and it sounds perfectly normal if you just make sure you're around someone who appreciates interesting science facts or dead baby jokes. You just can't make it your opening line in case it'd scare them off. But once you figure out your audience you can go crazy about the history of sex dools or how to build a Wimshurt generator.
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>>102250164

Men who have relationships are typically happier. Well, people in general actually. Its okay to be introverted, introversion in itself isn't a bad thing but full-blown isolation can do terrible things to the mind. Hence, having some sort of companionship whether it be a friend or romantic partner.

The OP neglects to mention that in both of these movies as well Welcome to the NHK, the main character gets a girlfriend as well as a retinue of other friends to help them out of their depression and isolationism.

People help people become happier. Its really that simple.
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>>102253574
Don't go. Stay here, with us. forever___________________________
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>>102253522
That is so fucking cool. Have more of it?
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>>102253450
>Please tell me you lived under a rock
I think that would describe the situation rather accurately.
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>>102253574
Go, talk to them, and bring back some cringe stories. I love those.
If you notice you're having fun, you should worry
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>>102253574
I'd be very very weary of anime clubs in general. They're not places for well adjusted people in general. Granted, you're probably not very well adjusted yourself, but at least you're not *those* people.
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>>102251884
Pennsylvania, the part with a lot of German culture. I recently started working in the capital, and it weirds me out when the other people at the bus stop talk to me. Don't they know that strangers don't speak unless they're doing business or drinking?
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>>102253698
you're humoring me.. ;_;
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>>102253360
How do you expect anyone not finnish to get that joke? And cows go "ammuu", not "amuu".
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>>102250164
> the cure to their problems? a girl

Aren't girls like the original reason for them to be ronery otaku? No woman wants them.
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>>102253480
>if you hit 30 and don't have a partner, you either go to a church to find one or you live as a wizard for the rest of your life

This is really the only reason I'd pick up religion, and it fucking scares me. Women today have no morals or self-respect. It's all about "my body, my choice", "sexual freedom" or "empowering women", and it's fucking disgusting and degenerate as shit. They don't care about the long-term anymore, just the short-term.
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It does work. Worked for me many many years ago, 1 year into college.

Although you do have to be horny in enough in real life to go for it at least once.
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>>102253828
that's why it's called the cock carousel. The ride ends eventually
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>>102253574
Go. Chances are it will be shit. But you never know, and you can say you tried.
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>>102253828
That's why I will never go out with a western woman.
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>>102253819
And therefore, when a woman wants them, their "condition" is cured. Pretty simple, eh?
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>>102253803
>I recently started working in the capital

As in Washington or the Capital of Pennsylvania?
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>>102253810
No, seriously. I always wanted to know about super dense materials, I got kinda obsessed since I first lifted a gold bar and it was so damn heavy. Or graphene. I really like to hear about materials that do weird shit.
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You want to hear something scary? THIS VERY THREAD IS SOCIALIZING! Seriously, if we all piled into a restaurant some night and talked about being awkward we'd all have a dozen new friends, and possibly a really good enemy or two.
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>>102253552
Does the torrent still have seeds or is it dead?
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>>102253828
Yeah... the problem is that it's not only women. Men are like that too. Most world problems could be reduced to that, actually.
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>>102253603
Is this controversial?
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>>102250995

Not true, I'm in the military and I'm still introverted and a little socially awkward. Basic training, doing pushups in the snow at 2 in the morning, marking time while a sergeant tears your bed apart for being a centimeter off, none of it magically turns you into a confident manly-man, it just makes you a more competent beta. Which is good I guess since now I feel capable and able to do shit.

I still can't talk to girls for shit though.
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>>102253931
Religion is the last bastion of hope.
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>>102253853
>Although you do have to be horny in enough in real life to go for it at least once.
What do you do if you've fapped so much to 2D that not even 3D porn with your favorite fetish interests you anymore?
This is causing me troubles with my gf
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>>102253904
You should look up for graphene aerogel then. It's fuking nuts what that shit can do.
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>>102253922
It gets updated yearly so probably
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>>102253919
It's only because we're on an anonymous image board that it's possible. We're spread all over the world, we would never meet in person, there is no way it can extend beyond this..
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>>102253922

Go lossy
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=473067
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>>102253939
In the end the treatment is up to the patient.
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>>102253828
>Women today have no morals or self-respect. It's all about "my body, my choice", "sexual freedom" or "empowering women", and it's fucking disgusting and degenerate as shit. They don't care about the long-term anymore, just the short-term.

Stop hanging around with tumblrfags or sluts. The few women IRL I've dated have been such shy prudes even I was more sexually comfortable.
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>>102253972
Will do, thanks
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>>102253816
There was one guy saying we should derail the thread and I hoped there be another Finn.
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>>102253891

Works like magic, anon. Genius.
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>>102253971
Here, read the first few chapters of this. You'll know what to do.
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>>102254001
>I was more sexually comfortable.

That's because you've wanted to everything under the sun
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>>102253939
I've seen people on /a/ argue a lot for fixing your problems on your own, sometimes with outright denial of the benefits of external intervention.
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>>102250164
Did you consider that it works OP? Having a person who cares about you actually fucking helps. Girlfriend is just the simplest example of such person, because friendship is a bit more complicated.
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>>102253873
Thank you anon for the answer
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>>102254055
>wanted

Wanked, obviously
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>>102253873
Going isn't trying. Going is going. Trying is trying. Going might be trying.
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>>102254072
A lot of anons operate on anecdotal evidence or simply nothing at all, it seems.
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>>102254132
I think that's the case for people in general.
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>>102253986
>Update using script of original torrent
Then use this script to remove albums containing bad filenames(short 8.3 windows names)
Could you spoonfeed me on what it means?
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>>102253981
But it also happens in places like IRC channels, and the only big difference between those and here is the anonymity
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>>102253981

I've met people who turned out to be from 4chan. They were pretty chill.

It's funny, actually. After talking in a group of anime geeks for a while you can tell which ones are anons. They're usually more quiet, the shows they're into are a little more obscure, and if they reference something they saw on an anime site (4chan) they won't tell you what site it was.

Tumblr people are a lot louder and more open about what they're into but their taste is pretty mainstream.

Never met anyone who hangs on Reddit but I'd probably have to kill them on general principles.
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>>102253828
I'm fine with this, it's better than having to marry a woman just to have sex with her.
>long term
Do you honestly believe most people can spend their lives with a single partner ? If so, you're delusional. The only ones able to pull it off usually have some shady business/agreement going on, fight everyday, and generally don't actually love each other anymore. The only ones who genuinely do are exceptions among axceptions.
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>>102254001
>even I was more sexually comfortable

>Some 3D says she wants to kiss me, I can't reject her
>She doesn't say "Wow that was lousy" but keeps going out with me
>Somehow she's become my gf
>She wants the D, time to whip out my doujin-acquired knowledge
>No anal
>No blowjob
>No titjob
>Make her cum with my fingers doing something I saw in a gag manga
>"Wow I'd never felt anything like this"
I think I've been spoiled by the 2D world
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>>102254072
>>102254132
I swear the people who believe that you alone can fix your own problems are the underaged who come here or the normalfags who seep in from places like /r9k/ and /fit/. It's just not feasible to take on that kind of problem alone. It's overwhelming.
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>>102254195

If you haven't downloaded a previous version of this torrent don't worry about it.
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>>102254240
>Never met anyone who hangs on Reddit
I have. They're not bad or obnoxious people necessarily (they can be though), they're just extremely ignorant/naive and their taste is pretty mainstream as well.
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>>102251884
In New England people rarely make conversation on the street, it's even joked about how neighbors will look out their windows before getting the mail to make sure no one else is outside grabbing their own.
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>>102254240
same here i met 1 guy from /b/ and 2 guys from /v/ they were cute
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>>102250234
>Introversion
>solution

This thought ticks me off. What the hell is wrong with naturally preferring your own company as opposed to large crowds? There's nothing wrong with being introverted. It's just a different preference
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>>102253903
Pennsylvania's capital, Harrisburg. Still Pennsylvanian in a lot of ways, but a lot of different cultures and personalities too. Cultures who think it's fine to speak casually (or worse, insultingly and then say "Just joking") with a total stranger.

I've also chatted with homeless/borderline-homeless people that may have schizophrenia.
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>>102253282
My problem only got worse after I moved out and got a job. I go to school and work, but other than that, I'm in my bedroom, as my dad isn't pressuring me to socialize and clean up after myself. I still get the "You're 22, you should have a girlfriend by now, I'll buy you an escort if you need to." but that's about it.
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>>102254346
Although I should note, one of them would spout retarded old memes like a complete sperg ("Gooby please" at least 50 fucking times a day).
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>>102252806
Isn't that just being efficient?
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>>102254248
>Do you honestly believe most people can spend their lives with a single partner ?
My parents have been married for around 13 years.
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>>102252879
I would like to suck his dick.
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>>102253356
Wonderful. We both like anime right? We can talk about anything else too if you'd like.
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>>102254055
>>102254115

No, I'm pretty vanilla. Just that I got over my physical fears, and part of being in a long-term relationship to me means people who can have fun sexually with each other. For some reason the women I've gotten along with have more backwards than I am.

"Nooo, don't look at me down there!" is cute when it's a 17-year-old anime girl. It's irritating when it's a 26-year-old college graduate you've been fully dating for six months.
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>>102254370
>I've also chatted with homeless/borderline-homeless people that may have schizophrenia.

Man people who're off their heads are the best. There's guy in my town who talks about how he used to smuggle drugs from Morocco and Indian with Capitan Beefheart and how he met aliens at Stonehenge.
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>>102254312
So should I just download the torrent?
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>>102254293
I think it's mostly a misunderstanding on the difference in severity of problems for different people.
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>>102254493
yes
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>>102254240
I'm pretty sure my sister goes to Reddit. If she's the norm, then Reddit people aren't as bad as expected. They just talk like time-traveling channers from 2 years ago.
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>>102254523
Thank you.
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>>102254456
Though I have wanked to everything under the sun so I think that sex with a girl would probably be horribly uninteresting.
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>>102254353

I live in New England and I talk with everyone. But I'm out in the suburbs. If I lived in Roxbury I'd keep to myself. And carry a gun.

From your comment, you life in Maine or something?
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>>102254524
I'm pretty most people on reddit are very average with mainstream tastes.
So many people go on it that it's basically for normalfags.
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>>102251664
>You don't just go talking to random people outside. Do normal people do this? I think not.
Sometimes they do. It's pretty creepy actually. It usually happens whenever I'm well dressed, random guys say hello to me and ask where I am going. When it happens when I'm walking, I just smile, answer, and keep going on my way. But when it happens when I'm sitting down on the subway I have no choice but to carry on with this kind of insipid conversation.
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>>102254293
Of course you need help. It's one of the first steps. But not the first. The first step is to think about it, decide to fix it, realize you need help, and then go and look for help. What I mean is that, yeah, it's overwhelming. Yeah, you probably can't do it alone. But sitting there waiting for help to come to you is not gonna work. The first step must be done alone.
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>>102254494
Of course, but having other people help you generally makes solving problems much easier. Hell, we have a whole fucking Evangelion about all this shit.
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>>102254591
Connecticut, the more woodsy part in the northeast.
Although I work in retail and always go out of the way to converse with customers, plus it actually helped me a lot with becoming more sociable and approaching others.
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>>102254598
Reddit has far too many people for the userbase to be generalised, honestly. I've met both normalfaggy redditors who love SAO and very nerdy redditors with pretty good taste
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>>102254564

Sex with a girl is nice, even if it doesn't involve the futa monster girls your heart desires. Having your entire body pressed against, and into, a woman who likes you feels pretty good man. It's as much emotional pleasure as physical.
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>>102250164
It sells. Almost everyone is lonely and unhappy, and the idea that it only takes a run-in with the right girl to turn your life around is very marketable. Hell, it's what a lot of people believe even without media pandering to that dream. The waifu phenomenon is kind of in that vein.

>>102251213
>>102250681
MPDG is an utterly retarded term coined very recently. All it means is "extroverted female idealist," and it's nowhere near a new archetype. It's fucking old. Like centuries old. Also, stop poisoning what little brain you have left with bad women's studies reading, >>102251213.
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>>102254362
The problem comes when introversion becomes social isolation, and you start to feel bad about not having human interaction.
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cancerous post incoming
#ronerychan on rizon
spawned out of this sort of thread a couple years back
if anyone wants to risk exposing themselves
and if anyone on there complains just say the anon that posted this says "suck my cock dude"
I am sorry for making this kind of post..
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>>102254711
Of course there is a wide variety of people on it but I'm speculating that most are normalfags.
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I can't believe I'm saying this but this is the most interesting thread on /a/ right now.
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>>102254749
ok, I hope they don't mind me
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>>102250234
>introversion=illness
You should have told him to go and fuck his ignorant self. If introverted people didn't have girlfriends that would mean half of the world's population doesn't and won't ever have children. Which is retarded.
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>>102254749
Why would people afraid of socalizing (or who don't know how) step into an IRC which is probably already circlejerk-ish.
They're better off exchanging emails/steamid/skypes/whatever instead
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>>102254680
It's funny Eva threads are where I see most of these opinions on having to solve your own problems and denying the benefit of outside help. I don't know why but they seem to think that you need to be an island when it comes to working through emotional/psychological problems which really is just absurd.
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>>102253994
Obviously it's you who has to change your way of thinking at the end of the day, that doesn't diminish the importance of finding external help. Again, this is a serious psychological problem. Would you trust a suicidal person to deal with his tendencies by himself?
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>>102254621
It's scary when this happens, because for the most part in my city most people, other than old men (which I find pleasant to converse, as I don't feel they're judging) in my city keep to themselves except for the extreme shits. That are drunk in public at two in the afternoon. I've had a native threaten to slit my throat when I was just normally walking home, eyes to the ground.
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>>102251331
>no one is dreaming of sex AND a life partner
>all these movies are about genial and affordable prostitutes that don't hang around after they're not wanted
Did a boat load of tumblr feminists get beached nearby?
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>>102254736
There's also an option where you need social interactions to function properly (which I believe most people do) but are too afraid to have them... welp, it's Eva again.
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I think a big issue has to do with people refusing to have any middle ground. I mean you see it here all the time, you're either a normalfag or a basement dwelling social retard. Why do I have to box myself in to a shitty standard just because I like to jerk off and watch anime alone sometimes? There are just as many people who do the same with shows like House of Cards and Breaking Bad and they're considered normal. We're all fucking weird, but don't let those aspects define who you are.

Also can we stop attributing everything to introversion? That isn't what makes people shy. You can be extroverted and still be shy/awkward. If you prefer to be alone than accept it and move the fuck on. You're never going to figure out whats wrong with yourself if you keep falling back on shit that isn't even that debilitating.
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>>102254729
Cuddling's nice, but I don't fancy explaining to her that I won't enjoy the sex unless she's wearing cat ears, a school uniform, a diaper and dildo gag while in suspension bondage with me and a huge nigger double-teaming her and high-fiving
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>>102254950
Just convince her to let you read DJs while you have sex.
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Hm... I just watched this blockbuster movie that said that you shouldn´t shut yourself, love is the solution. And the solution wasn´t a guy. Not that good of a movie though.
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>>102254736
Problems can arise from introversion and extroversion. With extroverts, there's the problem of people becoming completely dependent on others company, being clingy and fearing being alone.

Like most things, a healthy balance is the solution
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>Is there anything besides Welcome to the NHK that subverts it?

Welcome to the NHK doesn't really subvert it. There are guys as pathetic as Satou fucking everywhere, there's very little reason for Misaki to clamp onto him and him alone.

pic related does it properly.
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>>102254705
>Although I work in retail…

Damn, getting hob is tough as hell. I'm not socially awkward or that stuff but I'm die-hard loner. Even when applying for warehouseman for minimal wage and willing to work overtimes if needed there is always that one kind of question which completely kills the job interview for me. "Do you mind working in a team?"

Are there no bloody jobs where one could work completely and utterly alone?
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>>102254946
Yeah things aren't that black and white.
I think it's a just natural human tendency to simplify and categorize things
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>>102254846
Well, Shinji's problem was one that he had to solve by himself, mostly. I mean, he had to accept himself. His problem was not that people didn't accept him, or like him, but that he didn't realize this himself. No matter how much people try to help you, if you are in denial, you won't see the hands reaching out to you.
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>>102250164
I don't know about NHK, but I don't think that Misaki was really a cure to his problems.

She was, in my opinion, more of a mirror then a cure as she herself was broken like Sato was and that, along with the life lessons he learned from his interactions with the other characters, helped Sato learn that real life can be bad at times, but as long as you look towards a happy place where you want to be, everything will work out okay.

In terms of the sexual themes is media, its really disgusting to me how entrenched its become in the east and west. A good example of this is Silver Linings Playbook as basically this guy who has a bunch of mental health issues suddenly learns to live with it because of looking at Jennifer Lawrence's ass n tits. Its ridiculous and I can see the effect it gives off, my brother wont stop telling me that quick sex with some brood who wants to "put out" is the way to go and that being a virgin is a "bad thing." Fuck that shit, I wanna be with a woman who I care for and truly love enough to do those things with, not some Maxim skank.
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>>102254448
Yeah, of course. What's your favorite airing one?
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>>102254456
>"Nooo, don't look at me down there!"
>26-year-old college graduate
This breaks the immersion, same with people making obscene jokes. It only works in SYD.
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>>102254993
>that fucking eyebrow
Why must all Disney/Dreamworks movies have that fucking eyebrow on their posters?
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>>102251319

that doesn't happen
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The discussion has kind of gone past this but has anyone here read Onna to Shougaku Ninensei? It's a two chapter manga about a female neet that's pretty nice. There aren't any over exaggerated characters and the MC isn't saved by a normalfag.

I want to read more manga about shut-ins and the like but most of them seem like wish fulfillment like what's already been said.
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i don't know what got to you guys but i really like all this bro-feeling this thread got
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>>102254447
Mine were married for 25 years. They divorced 4 years ago. I had to convince my own mother to leave because I knew she would collapse under the stress if she didn't. They fought everyday over nasty shit, cancer, comtability, dinner, everything. When I was a child I never spent more than 5 minutes eating dinner because I couldn't stand the screaming. Yet why didn't they divorce ? Because they didn't want me to suffer. Well fuck them I would have been far happier had they divorced when I was 10. Sorry for blogshit.
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>>102255100
Yes it does.
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>>102254950
That sounds pretty awesome to watch, specially the high-fiving
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>>102255050
>Silver Linings Playbook as basically this guy who has a bunch of mental health issues suddenly learns to live with it because of looking at Jennifer Lawrence's ass n tits.

Is that what you took away from it? She was just as fucked up as he was but just in a different way. He had someone to relate to.
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>>102251884

Sweden here. It doesn't happen at bus stops, it doesn't happen anywhere else.
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>>102255013
;_;
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>>102255047
Yeah if you're to the point where you think every word out of other people's mouths is a lie and they're just patronizing you while at the same time being so emotionally dead that you can tell when they're showing real concern then you're pretty much on your own. That's a seriously extreme case though, one that would probably end with a forced intervention or suicide in reality.
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>Is there anything besides Welcome to the NHK that subverts it?

There's this Sit-Com episode about a hikki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3FIffnxKbg
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>>102255132
>Because they didn't want me to suffer.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was very common. I suspect I'm as fucked up as I am only because they didn't want to hurt me by divorce.
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>>102255013
I'm sorry but there is little hope if you can't at least pretend to enjoy the company of others. You might want to consider becoming an artist or writer.
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>>102250164
You should read the original novel of NHK. The anime tried to lead everything into "conclusion". Novel is much more in a tone that nothing really changes.
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>>102255011
>there's very little reason for Misaki to clamp onto him and him alone.

In her case, she was codependent, borderline-personality, and depressed and Satou was just the equally pathetic person she ran across during her daily routine.
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>>102255154
Yeah I know she had issues similar to him, but its the theme that some relatable and attractive woman will help you with your shit in one way or another, and its so drawn out and stupid that it kills me.
Im 18 and I still haven't met a girl that wants to hang out with me and even just talk about life with me
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>>102255135
I depends on where you live. I'm guessing Japan is one of the places where such things are less likely to occur, hence why they're statistically speaking more socially retarded.
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>>102251319
The few times this has happened to me, the person is usually batshit insane.
>murrika
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>>102255260
Pretending to enjoy other people's company is not the solution. I have done this my entire life and you eventually just learn to humor people. They might have thought the event was fun and even meaningful, but you start hating every person you meet because you're never yourself.
Or so it goes for me.
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>>102255318
Insane people are the best to talk to though. Aliens and shit.
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>>102255275

I didn't get my first kiss until I was 26. I've had two long-term girlfriends since then. Keep hope alive. But while you're keeping hope alive work to be a better person.
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>>102251319
Only a few times, but my bus is usually filled with Haitians who can barely speak english and the mentally ill.

/blog
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>>102255353
A person I work with is already tinfoil hate mode, I don't need anymore of that shit.
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>>102254858
That sucks man, I don't anyone ever threatened me, but still it's only normal to be cautious. Be careful on your way home.
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>>102255275
>Im 18 and I still haven't met a girl that wants to hang out with me and even just talk about life with me

I was there. A girl isn't going to fall into your life. You probably realize this but I didn't. Other than upgrading yourself as a person it's mostly about putting yourself in situations to meet friends, which eventually turn into stronger relationships.
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>>102251319
> You've never randomly ended up in a conversation with someone at a bus stop or anything like that?

This happens only when somebody asks me what time is it or if some old bloody lady have no idea how to read bus timetable. And in most cases I'm so shocked that someone talked to me that I freeze and just stare at them so they probably think I'm retarded. Or mute, one old lady genuinely thought I was mute. I really had to laugh at the situation once I got home.
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>>102255013
Probably janitorial work.
Not to blogshit but recently I was transferred to a store in a middle of nowhere town and I would have to open it by myself in the morning, be there by myself for a couple hours (aside from pharmacists in the back) and work with one other person on shift. I also had to close it by myself a couple times. It felt completely different to the store I was normally working in that was in the middle of an area where a lot of people live in walking distance. If anything working by yourself puts a lot of responsibility on you and you need to know when to ask for help. I wasn't really good at that and got sent back to where I was at before, where there is more people on shift and almost always someone in a higher position I can talk to when there are problems.
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>>102255350
Surprise! It's how you move up in the world. Obviously you'll meet people you actually enjoy and can relate to on a real level, but if you want to succeed in the workplace especially you have to present yourself as a likable person. A likable person does not despise the company of others. That's step fucking 1 to be despised.
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>>102255455
Yeah I know, Im trying to work on my physique a bit cause that's really the only factor that's keeping me conscious about talking to girls.
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>>102255516
I'm sorry I've been a NEET for six years, I was referring to more social settings..
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>>102255455
>putting yourself in situations to meet friends
I think this is one of the biggest problems people has. You have classes/work. But other than that, it's pretty hard to put yourself in a situation where connecting with someone is feasible. Joining local communities related to something you're interested with or going to a pub are the only ones that come to mind.
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>>102250164

People have a strange obsession with making kids.
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>>102255245
Staring the best Doctor Who.
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>>102255516
>Obviously you'll meet people you actually enjoy and can relate to on a real level
Why do people think this? Not everyone lives in a metropolitan with 100 000+ people. I am certain that I have encountered every person within my are who have even the slightest overlapping of interest with me, and they are all normalfags who I can never really get along with.
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>>102255598
Internet can actually help with this one.
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>>102251319
I've done this a few times but I never talked to those people ever again. I did talk to a borderline crazy once, and by talk I mean I listened to him rant about random shit, like football and how he lost his daughter.
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>>102255350
This. I have friends I genuinely enjoy being with, but now that I've started working in a big company I always feel like this. I'm nice to everyone I meet, I smile when people shake my hand, but I come back home I'm so tired of this bullshit. But I have no choice, it's not like I can be my flegmatic silent self at work, otherwise no one would want to work with me and I wouldn't blame them.
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>>102255455
>A girl isn't going to fall into your life
This is one of the only things I look forward to in life, just like Araragi.
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>>102255745
Meeting someone with whom you'll feel comfortable doesn't necessarily mean they'll share interests with you. My few friends are complete normalfags, yet I wouldn't trade them for anything.
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>>102255745
If that's the case (it is for me) then move.

Also don't consider people who on a surface level are different than you "normalfags". Try to have some middle ground between yourself and other people.
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>>102255817
But wouldn't she end up crushing your arms, or falling to the ground and splatting?
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>>102251884
Russia. No one is talking to anyone on the street. It's kind of nice, actually.
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>>102255069
Probably Seki or Witch. How about you, watching either of those?
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>>102255838
Ya, my friends share some interests but while I watch anime, most of them are hardcore sports fans.
They're still my closest companions though.
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>>102255838
Then how would I get on with them? What would we talk about? what would we do?
>>102255875
I can't just leave.
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>>102255889
The trick is to roll when you hit the ground.
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>>102254240

Same, I had a friend who was a redditor who basically shared all the same interests as me just with less intensity and knowledge.

Essentially he was a well-meaning, slightly more knowledgeable normalfag and we both managed to appreciate each others differences.

He can be a little meme-spouty at times but part of being social is learning that no one is perfect and that you have to put up with people's bad sides if you like the good enough.
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>>102251319
People start up conversations with me irregularly, but not rarely. (Maybe I look friendly?) Surprises the hell out of me, and even though in the back of my head I'm thinking that it's really nice of them to make conversation, I'm always waiting desperately for the interaction to end. I was never socialized properly as a child, and though I've learned to somewhat manage conversations with strangers, I still haven't managed to LIKE them (conversations, I mean) nor seek them out. Maybe if I wore some anime t-shirts I might actually make friends in public, but chances are I'd still react the way I always do. People abruptly trying to chat with you is fucking startling to an avoidant introvert such as myself.
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>>102255455
>You probably realize this but I didn't.

I still didn't realize that shit.
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>>102255942
>I can't just leave.

Whats stopping you? If it's a career then I'd strongly consider making the best of the town you're in. Which can take a lot of effort depending on how shit it is.
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>>102255889
I want to believe anon, I want to believe. It's hard to believe that banter is not possible in real life.
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>>102256059
fear is stopping me.
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>>102255942
I don't know about you, but what works for me is showing off the weirdest parts of my personality. I talk about weird shit I saw on the internet, the latest hentai kinks I happened by, visual novels, sometimes I even talk about /a/. They're weirded out in a good way and they laugh at my antics.
Just talk about whatever you want to talk about. See if it bores them. If they are, drop the subject and let them do the talking by asking a question about themselves.
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>>102256178
I could never do that
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>>102255455

It's the only way that's going to happen to me.

I've never met a girl that I'd actually want to date.
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Of the northies, aren't the Finns the friendliest? Now the Dutch and Swedes won't even say "good morning" back to you if they don't recognize you.
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>>102256219
I don't expect you to be able to be able to switch at will in social butterfly mode like I can, but at least being able to talk to people about what you like is mandatory. It's the only way people can learn about you and appeciate you.
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It's Kind of a Funny Story was the worst movie I've ever seen in my life

I've never seen such forced, contrived, melodramatic and unrealistic garbage

Fuck that movie
Fuck that actor
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>>102256232
Do you think you're the only person in the world with a certain "taste" for women? Everyone has a preference and sometimes you have to make compromises for the things that may not matter so much.
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>>102256322
Finns only look at you if:
a) You're not white
b) You're being loud and/or standing out
c) You look like a hobo with nice clothes, speak english and talk to other people
Otherwise, they don't really look at you.
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>>102256356
I have a friend who I can talk about anime a bit, but he is not nearly as interested as me, and he is also now hitting the gym. Also, if I talked about the stuff I REALLY am interested in, I would get locked up I think.
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Literally no post in this entire thread is anime.

Please take it to /v/

>>>/v/
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>>102256484
There were two.
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>>102256460
Arf, that sucks. Still you should test waters first. If the guy is weirded out, you can always say you were joking.
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I wish I could press a button to kill every person in this thread.

400 posts of off-topic whining, jesus christ.
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>>102256434

Fuck that. 3D is PD.
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>>102256232
I'm pretty picky but I still met a handful.
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>>102256484
>>>/v/
>Being this out of touch.
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>>102256560
>>102256484
Cheer up, hide the thread, move on.
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>>102256560
Never heard of the thread hiding function?
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>>102254248
My parents have been married for over 40 years.
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>>102252001
[sage]noods plz
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>>102256322
Shouldn't danes be the friendliest?
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>>102256232
For the last 5 or 6 years, it's been the same for me. Sometimes, when I meet someone new, I feel like that girl may be interesting, but the more I talk to them, the more I feel like they are not what I'm looking for. And I'm not even that picky. I just want a girl that I could discuss things with. I mean, as in heavy discussion. Arguments about ethic, politics, news, or whatever. You may think this would end being boring, but it's the thing I enjoy the most, and I've been doing it with my brother for more than 10 years, so I know for a fact that it's possible to keep it up for that long.
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More like it just panders to the fantasy of a girl falling in love with you and fixing your life without you having to do anything.
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>>102255904
I'm watching both. Seki-kun is pretty fun, however I find Witch rather average. I think what I dislike about it the most is the overly dominant female lead, same reason I couldn't really enjoy DxD.
As for my favorite, it's Sakura Trick. I fell in love with it from the first few minutes. What do you think about it?
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>>102257075
So basically someone who is at least smart enough to have their own opinion on things? You're not asking for much. Initiate said topics when meeting women and they'll engage you in the debate. It's not that hard.
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Oh boy, a blogging thread. Here's mine.

I just don't care about socializing at all. Seriously, even if it may be sometimes enjoyable it feels like a huge bother to maintain some public image, fake interest in things I don't give a fuck about, say polite and\or friendly things, etc. I'd rather sit in my room doing things I like and when I feel the need to socialize, I do that on 4chan, which allows to avoid all the bullshit above. I can't even use any other sites, chats and social networks, because they aren't anonymous and I would still have to maintain my image.
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>>102252219
You need to go to school or get a job. You need to be stuck with people, and then you will be with them long enough by no choice of your own and let your guard down. I am avoidant, shy, socially anxious, and introverted, but I have a decent amount of friends. They are all from high school or college, where I was stuck with them. When you stay in contact with people due to external circumstances, you won't get bogged down wondering why you're still interacting with them. Instead, you just enjoy it for what it is and gradually become closer.

>>102257050
I spent a few days in Copenhagen and the few Danes I met actually were really nice, but I didn't get into any conversations on the street. Since Finns have a reputation for drinking and violence, I figured they must be a bit more outgoing, extroverted, and/or social. Guess not?
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>>102257277
Yeah. The thing is that they are not interested in discussing things. You may have an opinion, but not care about someone else's, or simply find the discussion of it boring. Or what's even worse, your opinion may be founded on nothing, and the moment you realize this while the other person is trying to discuss it in some deep, you'll avoid it completely because you don't want to look dumb (when a simple "I've never thought about it" would be more than enough to move on... or when you could actually listen to what the other person thinks on that matter, and try to argue the points don't agree with). So, yeah, so far, I've only found a girl that sometimes I can discuss things with, but sometimes, it becomes really stressing because she will often think I'm trying to make a point I'm really not (in other words, she doesn't listen). Also, she has a boyfriend and she's happy with him and the job I helped her get at Blizzard, so I prefer not to get into that shit.
>>102257391
>I don't care about socializing
>When I do it, I take care of my image
Why do you care about what people think of you? I mean, if you don't care about socializing, you can be yourself, and if people don't like you, fuck them. And if they do, you've found yourself a pretty cool person to spend some time with.
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>>102257635
> do you care about what people think of you? I mean, if you don't care about socializing, you can be yourself, and if people don't like you, fuck them. And if they do, you've found yourself a pretty cool person to spend some time with.
Not him, but I honestly believe that nobody would ever get along with "the real" me, other than myself. Which is why I talk to myself all the time
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>>102251875
>subversion of a trope that is really just an ancient personality archetype
I know I should have responded to this much earlier, but please kill yourself.
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>>102252109
Just because you think it worked out in your headcanon doesn't mean that's how it actually played out numbnuts.
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>>102258029
Except he was just saying she was interested, which the scene put forth well enough.
Stop taking things to extremes.
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>>102257635
That's not what I mean. For example, if you want to maintain good relationship you have to say hello to people, tell them something, listen to them and do that constantly every day. Sometimes I'm willing to do that, but most of the time I'd rather be left alone and not talk to anyone or listen anything, and sometimes I'd rather say "fuck you" than "hello" and I don't think you should do that if you aren't anonymous. I'm sure no one would want a "friend" like that, which only talks to you when he needs something and doesn't care about you at all.
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>>102258085
What he said:
>>he ends up with the only stable one interested in him for him (Eri)
Not:
>she was interested
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>>102257391
If I had to make an assumption I'd say you're not even sure of who you are. Even the more dedicated loners can admit that certain activities are more fun to do with other people. You tap dance (socialize) to achieve the goal of doing those things with them.

It's not like people with friends are constantly out trying to meet new new ones. They've already put the work in. If you're not willing to put the work in then that's more of a flaw in your character than anything.
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>>102257391

You're afraid of people and to deal with it you convince yourself "normal" people are all shallow pretenders while you pride yourself as some kind of superhuman who has ascended above basic human needs.

A large amount of the posters in this thread most likely did this at some point.
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I read "It's kind of a funny story" back in highschool, and sadly, the movie completely missed the point
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>>102257238
I'm watching it kind of slowly because it's so sweet. I can't help but get flustered when they act all lovey. I haven't watched a couple of the new episodes but I hope they tomboyish girl whose name I forget gets some scenes. Have you got a favorite girl or couple?
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>>102258193
I know what you feel anon. I feel the same way and the worst part is that I'd like to date a girl from my class but I can't because of the fucking way I think.
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>>102256901
Well sure, but can you honestly say they enjoy each others company ?
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>>102258358
While it may be said that I'm afraid of being judged, I don't see where the second part comes from. I don't really care about normal people and recognize that a lot of them are much better than me in all aspects, not just socially. It's not about shallow pretending, maybe they actually care about the things they say to each other everyday, but I don't and have no will to do. I'm certainly not above the need to talk to people or I wouldn't spend my time here.
Maybe you should stop projecting.
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>>102252392
>someone makes a concerted and thought-out effort to help you
>give them the cold shoulder and effectively cut them out of your life

I'm about 99% certain I would react the same way, but that is dysfunctional and autistic as fuck. Surely you see that the gesture required a lot of empathy and concern, even if the means ended up being en ineffectual nuisance.
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>>102258358
Touché. Luckily I did this very young (10, 11 years old), felt miserable and realized I was just as pretentious a being as everyone around me by the age of 13/14, successfully grown out of it and acquired the ability to socialize.
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>>102258358
Then, what does that make me? I have no problem talking to people and pretending, so I would say I'm not afraid, but whenever I interact with them, I end up thinking they are stupid, just like their problems and interests, which makes me think I somehow consider myself some kind of superhuman who has ascended above basic human needs.
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>>102258982
It's disrespectful to you as a person. I'm a different case in that I have no interest at all, but I've also cut people out for doing that shit multiple times. Not to mention the kind of people they hook you up with are so incompatible that it's offensive most of the time.

I have a friend who thankfully knows not to try to hook me up, but the people he thinks I'd even want to waste my time listening to is disgusting. It's like anytime anyone uses words he can't understand(it's a fucklot of words), he thinks of me. But then his relationships with people are based around weed or his dick, so watching them blow up in his face is a fair enough trade.
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>>102258358
Not him, but I don't really think it's fair to jump to that sort of conclusion. It does seem to be something of a common attitude though, so I can understand why you'd come to that conclusion, but for me personally it's not that I think "normal" people are shallow and just pretending to like things, it's just that I don't really give two shits about the interests of the general public so I can't really hold a conversation about those things. I'm more interested in academic fields, as well as some of the more nerdy, less socially acceptable topics (anime for example) that a vast majority of people shy away from in conversation. I can't really feign interest in pop culture, sports, etc.
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>>102252395
If you're American, your uncle is kind of stupid. We have not fought a war in the 20 nor 21st century that posed any risk to American families. I guess if your uncle understands that most of today's youth are idiots, then his logic works, but the less idiots with backbones the better.
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>>102258982
You have to realize the specific conditions in which this help was indirectly offered. And I should add that this was more of a case of the straw breaking the camels back, as I had been fairly annoyed with a variety of his behaviors for some time. He probably meant well but given this particular circumstance and how he interacted with me for a number of years prior, it not only comes off as incredibly condescending, insensitive and rather obtuse on his part.
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>>102259454
>I can't really feign interest in pop culture, sports, etc.
This. It really kills a conversation when the only thing I have to say about football is that it's old men in headsets playing chess using people who didn't like me in high school.

That and any sort of shallow party banter is like dental surgery that aggravates my sense of emptiness and disconnect from everyone else.
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>>102251093
What did you do during the first year of high school or college? That's the best moment for making friends, because it should be a fresh start for everyone.
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>>102259839
I isolated myself from everyone for 3 years, eventually people started approaching me anyways and I became friends with them for the last 3 years of high school, so at the end it worked out, but I doubt that was the best move for making friends.
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>>102259839
In the middle school I have made some friends, but then my parents decided that I should transfer to a better class and I lost them, while everyone in the new class already had their groups and my autism prevented me from entering them. In my country high school is just a continuation of the middle so there was no fresh start. In university I was very shy and without social skills, so by the time I realized that not everyone is out to get me and people there are are much nicer and friendlier than in my school they already formed their groups and I didn't belong anywhere again.
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>>102252761
>implying you wouldn't do it even if it wouldn't help them
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>>102260168
I'd place some blame on the university. Contrary to popular belief not ever college is good towards meeting new people and having new experiences.

I made the mistake of letting my parents pick the school for me and it's basically an extension of high school. It's in the middle of a country town where 90% of the students are from the area and know each other. They're closed minded conservatives on top of it all, while I'm more progressive thinking.

My point is, whether it's your school or city in general, sometimes the place your at just isn't suited for you whether you're starting fresh or not.
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My introversion got better after I worked as a door salesman for a while. Even sold pretty decently as well.

I don't enjoy talking to others all that much but the key to acting social is to seem interested and ask a lot of questions.You don't need to watch football or be updated with the latest fads on Facebook, just let them do the talking by asking a lot of questions, have a smile on your face and steer the conversation unto your half of the playing field.

It's pretty easy once you've given it a few runs.
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>>102260660
>steer the conversation unto your half of the playing field.
People generally don't seem to like my half of the playing field.
They tend to trip over dragon dildos and such.
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>>102261042
Yeah, somehow they wouldn't tell me which loli would they fuck.
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>>102259610
Almost certainly that guy thought you were smarter than him, and he was trying to help you in the only way he knew how. People mistake silence for arrogance, so he probably thought you were above being helped, indirectly or overtly, so he concocted some transparent scheme to try to be discrete and surreptitious. Growing older has taught me that not-quiet people will misinterpret silence and distance in the most paranoid and fearful ways possible. I'm still amazed when I find out that people (occasionally) see me as some intimidating intellectual ubermensch who is above being offered help, when the reality is quite the opposite. I never mind being offered help, but I get pissed off if someone tries to "help" me through some indirect scheme; it's only recently that I found out that this happens because they think I'll get angry if they offer me help directly. It baffles me, since I'm always grateful for the gesture, never offended by the implication.

I've gotten pissed off by that sort of thing and distanced myself from people, but in hindsight it's obvious that they were just trying to help and thought I would get angry if approached directly. It's a ridiculous conclusion to jump to, but all it means is that they view you as someone who is too strong-willed to welcome help. Food for thought.
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>>102261042
That reminds me, I went side by side on the street with a pretty good looking thirty year old with a cute puppy today. I was going to ask her if I could pet the dog but then she stopped at the street and suddenly entered a dildo store. If you had spoken about dragon dildos to her I'm sure she wouldn't have minded.

The subjects doesn't have to be anything recent, just steer things into stuff you enjoyed as a kid. For me I can talk about skiing, mushroom picking, living at the countryside, stuff like that. Also sharing personal stories will make them feel like they're connecting with you, making them liking you better. And all I've done for the last five years during my free-time is just sitting in front of the computer and I can easily hold a half-hour conversation with just about anyone.

I'll say this once more because it's important.

Ask
Questions.
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>>102261207
Like I said, he didn't mean me harm but there's a lot more than just his indirect "helping" that caused me to stop talking to him. I understand what you're saying though. I'd much rather prefer someone to be up front and honest with me than trying to do something for me on my behalf without my consent.
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>>102252235
"I've got a friend I'd like you to meet" is usually always a date setup.

You don't watch enough shitty sitcoms anon.
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>>102261416
>You don't watch enough shitty sitcoms anon.
Thank fuck for that.
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>>102261361
>Ask
>Questions.
My questions tend to scare normals, especially since they usually pertain to dead babies.
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>>102261361
>If you had spoken about dragon dildos to her I'm sure she wouldn't have minded.
and tonight, we report to you live...
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>>102253149
No, in the decades that nerds have been coding emulators, they never got around to implementing the ability to link over the internet.

Can you tell I'm being sarcastic?
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>>102262475
Most emulators still can't.
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>>102262475
>That spoiler
Good thing, because I was about to call on your bullshit.
In other words, no, I couldn't.
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>>102253109
>Golden Sun
mah nigga, i never finished tho
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>>102251338
People have problems anon. There is nothing wrong with complaining about things together and it's a very humane thing to do. I once striked up a conversation with a stranger on a bench while waiting for the bus. Some small talk here and there and he ended up giving me a bus pass for the next couple weeks. Seriously, just treat everyone like human beings, you'll never know what you can get out of it.
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>>102258414
It really is. I assume you're talking about Yuzu, she had some nice scenes in the last episode.
My favorite girl is Haruka, she's just irresistible.
As for pairing, I have to say I enjoy the more mature relationship of Kotone and Shizuku slightly more, but both couples are lovely. What would be yours favorite pairing?
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>>102253360
What do "ilman muuta" and "am" mean?
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>>102263286
>ilman muuta"
Nigga we live in the future and it works sometimes
http://translate.google.com/#auto/en/ilman%20muuta
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Pixie_Dream_Girl

I just tried thinking of an example though, and pretty much all the girls have stories/goals of their own though and aren't shallow.

I don't think it's actually that prevalent at all. They pump out girlfriends/waifus like fucking crazy, but they're not often shallow.
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>>102263286
It basically means "muuta free", so without muuta.
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>>102263392
Yeah, I don't get it. I'm guessing "amoo" is a homonym for something that creates a punchline?
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>>102253939
Psychologists are just people with the same tools and research at their disposal that you have. The outrageously and laughably nonsensical dogma of a few decades ago should make it clear to everyone that they are just fallible humans trying to operate within whatever theories are currently in vogue in the field. I swear people have come to believe that doctors really are some kind of gods or magicians and it fucking terrifies me.
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>>102263272
Wow is her name really Yuzu? The girl with the 2 ahoge kind of like dog ears I guess? That should be easy to remember since I loved YYS. I don't know who my favorite couple would be though, I like relationships like Inokuma I think her name was and the girl who liked her from Kiniro.
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>>102253540
"Professional help" very often puts people in MUCH worse positions than the ones they were in before.

For example, a very common protocol for social anxiety is getting someone to take a steady dose of benzodiazepines everyday. This WILL lead to physical addiction. Benzo withdrawals are considered by many serious drug addicts who have been on and off heroin, along with some doctors, to be the worst withdrawals of any drug on Earth. They can kill you, they typically last for months, include symptoms like seizures and extreme terror/anxiety, and effects can linger for years. Psychological effects from it can be permanent. It's arguable, but probably permanent physical damage too.

Psychiatrists often will not acknowledge this or understand it. They often ignore the fact of psychiatric drug withdrawals and will tell you it's your "mental illness" coming back, and that you need to continue to take the drug. This is what psychiatry calls medicine. They examine personality traits, emotions, and behaviors, and without any physical tests or science involved whatsoever deem someone to be "mentally ill", the cure being addictive mind altering drugs.

Did you know that 69% of the panel members for the DSM 5 have ties to pharmaceutical companies?

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.1001190

It's pseudoscience. Go ahead and get your "professional help".
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>>102251715

Oh yeah, this works kinda. I used to shy away from the mic when playing FPS games, but I've been giving less and less of a fuck over time and last time I was shouting the lyrics of LOGH's third OP into the mic scusi, blog.
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it's a sappy cliche but it's got some truth to it. one of my internet bros would watch anime with me, and we'd shoot the shit and NEET it up everyday, until he got a gf and subsequently a job, then moved out of his mom's house. neither of those final two things would have happened without her, at least not as quickly.

realistically all you need is a slap in the face to look at yourself and make changes. a girl can provide that, also things like compulsory military service, jail, sudden loss, sudden gain, whatever gets you thinking about your position and motivates you to leave your comfort zone. i'm still waiting for that good, hard slap in the face myself.
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This entire thread is insane. I don't know why anyone would want to socialize with random people at the bus stop or shit like that, because most of the people you meet will be disgusting normals and most of the ones who aren't are going to just be plain fucking retarded.
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>>102267651
Because introverts strive on tiny encounters like that one. On occasion, I'll say hit to random strangers and they'll smile right back. A little hello can seem insignificant but it can honestly brighten a person's day knowing that someone went out of there way just to acknowledge them.
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>>102267756
I am also an introvert. My friends are one or two people I still talk to over the Internet that I met in high school as well as a bunch of people I met online. That's more than good enough for me. Again, I have no idea why you would care about the acknowledgement of random strangers, most of whom are people that I wouldn't even want as part of my life.
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>>102253555
Why stop there? Someday I intend to destroy the human race as it is and replace it with a superior race of Robots, cyborgs and AIs.
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>>102267536
>i'm still waiting for that good, hard slap in the face myself.
You want an external source to slap you down?
it won't be there. You have to motivate yourself
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>>102267873
Because it's nice. There's really nothing to it.

I am an introvert as well but it doesn't mean that I am pleased with being on the outlier of human interaction.
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>>102267873
> That's more than good enough for me. Again, I have no idea why you would care about the acknowledgement of random strangers, most of whom are people that I wouldn't even want as part of my life.
I'm in the same boat, but I still do it anyways. But at the end of the day were human beings who desire social interaction, it just varies for each individual. Ever since I watched Aria, I my state of mind has refined a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7X7sZzSXYs
is a good example especially with her take on sitting on the bench part.
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>>102268207
>>102268184
>wanting to interact with degenerates

Okay, to each his own, I suppose.
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>>102261361
>and suddenly entered a dildo store
>dildo store

what
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>>102268276
They sell dildos there anon, this isn't a hard concept.
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>>102268261
not every being is a degenerate.
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>>102268437
Most are.
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>>102268381
A store JUST for dildos?
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>>102268485
Yep, google "Good Vibrations"
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>>102268464
50% is not most of them.
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>>102251338
I once met a Sikh on a train and had a 15 minute discussion about growing older and becoming more or less religious. (Dude had been a part of most religions and it was really interesting to hear how he moved between them). Just be confident and respectful, anon.
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>>102268588
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>>102268588
Sasuga, California
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>>102268261
First off, I think its stupid to generalize an entire population, especially one that I have yet to take the effort to understand.

Also, I interpret the inability to muster up the necessary skills and temperment to communicate with "degenerates" as a sign of weakness, not superiority.
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>>102268673
I have no idea where you're pulling 50% out of your ass. In my experience, most people are degenerates not worth talking to in real life (and the impersonal nature of an anonymous forum makes /a/ just barely bearable, if you're wondering). Nowhere did I claim that only 50% of people are degenerates.
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>>102268464
>>102268781
Maybe if you live in that shithole called America. Then yes, it's full of degenerate culture.
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>>102268781
What do define as a degenerate anon?
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>>102268834
People who aren't worth talking to. People who are normals, people who are ideological, people who aren't intelligent, people who are just boring and completely uninteresting. In my experience, intelligence is highly but not perfectly correlated with lack of degeneracy.
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>>102250164
How To Sell Shit To Women : 101

1. Make it all about them
2. ????
3. PROFIT!!
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>>102269192

I cut myself just reading your post. No one you think people are degenerates--no one wants to associate with some self-important emo shithead.
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>>102251407
>The people you imagine in your head, and the way they react, dont exist in the real world. Most people are pretty timid and polite.

I take it you don't live in New Jersey.
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>>102250164

If that is what you got out of "It's Kind of a Funny Story", I think you may be mentally retarded.
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>>102269192
That's an interesting viewpoint. I can understand where you are coming from, I myself can't deal with overly ideological people from any side of the spectrum mainly because I believe that being to ideological blinds you. Normals, well, you have to address them on their level, which can be tiring.

In my experience though, degeneracy is not always tied to low intelligence, there are plenty of highly intelligent people that are completely horrible. As for the uninteresting people, to be honest anon, that's your problem, not theirs. People don't exist to appeal to everyone. Just because they don't appeal to you, doesn't mean they are what you refer to as degenerates.

Of course at the end of all this, I can't help but agree with you on some points. There are a large majority of people who I feel are not worth socializing with.
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>>102269192
It seems that you're worse than a degenerate anon. What an awful state of mind you're withholding there. Intelligence and a person's value be it their personality or how entertaining does not correlate at all or vice versa.
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Would you watch an anime about cute hikkis overcoming their isolation and unemployment in cute ways?
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>>102270192
only if they were little girls
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>>102270192
No it would make me more depressed. I'm Greek
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ITT people who don't know the difference between being introverted and being socially awkward
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>>102272596
you too



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