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Post-26th chapter reaction addition.

New poll as well.
strawpoll.me/1171656
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>start archiving the series for my ereader
>chapters 1-5 are still awfully scanlated garbage
Oh jeez I forgot about that. FwPA pls
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Kawai looks like a cunt.
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>>102249885
>Oh god is this nigga gonna cry
and/or
>Don't fucking ruin this date for me Ishida
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>>102249928
I fear for Mashiba, he's so easy-going, looks like he'd be easily manipulated by Kawai, deceptive bitch.
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>>102249885
Because she is one.

Though now that you mention it
>"Aw, boohoo, is the poor bullied kid gonna cry?"
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>>102249953
I know it was just a joke to begin with but now I really want Mashiba to be a gayfag just to spite Kawai
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>>102249953
I think he might be evil.

I mean he wants revenge movie where they kill their bullies
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>>102249879
If we get good tank scans I'll TS them between working on the weekly chapters, no problem.
Just go in irc and talk anonblack into scanning her tank.
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>>102250120
If anything, that points to him having been bullied in the past or something. Maybe he could tell at a glance Shouya was bullied before and tried to befriend him because of it.
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Do we really need continues threads where there is nothing to talk till someone scanlate it?
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>>102250158
Yeah I mean that much seemed obvious but I meant evil in the sense that he could be the guy who will be an example of the darker side of what happens to bullied people.
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>>102249834
Shouko being clueless and smiling like that melts my heart. Hnngggg

Fuck you Ueno
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>>102250482
Japanese teenagers tend to go to facilities if they kill their bullies and he doesn't seem super intelligent or anything like that.
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#teamremoveshirttag
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Will i find 26 in the archive?
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>>102250487
>The one with the most concerned face the actually goes to make sure it's okay.
Okay.jpg

>>102250541
Well maybe he hasn't done anything bad yet and he wants a friend to support him in his revenge. I mean he doesn't seem to have other friends either.
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My rage is at a maximum. Only after death will my butt be free from this pain.
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>>102250620
He just seems... dumb, dim-witted basically, not killer material.
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>>102250592
maybe someone already did a speedscan and it's on batoto
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>>102249834
>Mashiba & Kawai
>Smiling like retards
>"Keikaku doori!"
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>>102250592
It's still up, close to getting deleted though.

>>102250487
She was the only one who didn't laugh it off. Shouko didn't hear it, obviously, so that's fine too.
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>>102249927
It's not my fault you haven't read my other statements and now think I'm blaming Shouko or whatever. I don't see any reason why calling me stupid.
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>>102250640

I wish Ishida would kiss her cheek after all of this.
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>>102250696
I didn't say you were stupid. Did you misquote?
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>>102250640
what happened to her cheek?
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>>102250730
I should've quote >>102249929 for that last sentence, but still.
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>>102250736
Ueno bitchslapped her.
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>>102250736
That's what we try to guess in that poll OP put out.
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>>102250640
It's just make up faggots! Shouko and Ueno had a magic makeover in the Ferris wheel! You're all overreacting!
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>>102250763
I don't even know where you got the insinuation that I thought you were blaming Shouko.
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>>102250640
They are both passing by Ishida without even looking at him.
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>>102250859
Because you were like - hey, she simply can't deal, some ppl are like that, hell even I am. So, actually, what did you want to say? What does it all have to do with my statement that she was given that character trait because author has an intention to use it in further plot development?
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When Ishida gonna stop being a faggot and man up??
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>>102251018
I meant she can't deal with amusement park rides- wait, I even SAID that. How can you misunderstand? Are you seriously trying to make out a common reaction to rides as some sort of big deal?
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>>102251043
When he stops thinking that he is unworthy of even a very little bit of happiness
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>>102250640
Honestly, I'm not so sure about that scene anymore.
Ueno hides her face, so maybe she has a bruise, too.

They probably "relieved some tension" by doing something they both wanted to do for a long time. Shouko is notorious for sucking it all up and keeping it in, so before she can even start to make amends with Ueno she has to get those feelings out and give her what she deserves.
Ueno is also angry at Shouko for "ruining" the relationships of the old gang, so no surprise there.
Now that they did what was long overdue and expressed the "unspoken", they could actually move forward and make peace.

But, as we all know, MISUNDERSTANDINGS will happen and complicate the plot.
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>>102250640
By my observation, Ueno body language suggested that she is annoyed or frustrated.
While Shouko eyes looks like a person that have lost all hope..
Its like a dead eyes expression..

Well... thats just me.
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>>102251119
Shouko wouldn't strike first or probably even in retaliation since Ueno was not the worst to her, in fact she was even kind of good for a while. She hit Shouya because Shouya was basically a monster.
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>>102251088
I actually am pointing out that she can't deal with rides, too. What are you arguing about? Because I have a suggestion that author didn't put it in because of sudden need of "cute girls doing cute things"? Remember, Shouko is 2D, thus all her personal traits are in mangaka's hands. It's not like we're talking about some living girl whose traits come from genes, traumas, etc,etc. It's all a set-up by a mangaka, and if mangaka gives something to her character, then it should mean something - at the very least "because it's cute". There's always a reason behind everything that happens in Katachi. If something was shown, it has some meaning. Like, did you notice how Ueno tried to sit in a rollercoaster with Ishida, but Sahara was first? It was just a part of Ueno's figure on the background, but it told a lot about Ueno's intentions and emotions.
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>>102251147
Yeah, Shouko seems calm but I know that it's just deprivation of feels. I know those eyes.
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>>102251237
You know, a fictional character doesn´t needs to be 2D for the author to control everything about it.
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>>102251147
I think Shouko just looks sad. Plus Ueno being annoyed/sad/frustrated doesn't jive with her successfully making Shouko sad.

also
>There are people who actually think Ueno just decided to slap Shouko because the bitch-force compelled her.
Guys really she was smart enough to plan the Shimada meeting she's not gonna drop the ball that hard unless Shouko said somehting.
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>>102251237
Jesus Christ, man.
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>>102251326
But still not to that point.
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>>102250736
She slapped herself so Ueno wouldn't have too, because Shouko is too good for this gay earth.
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>>102250694
I can't find the chapter and batoto doesnt have it halp
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>in ferris wheel
>Ueno apologizing half-assedly
>Shouko accepts
>Ueno somehow pissed off of Shouko's angel-like attributes
>Ueno starts mumbling hatred
>Shouko's confused
>Ueno more pissed off
>Shouko leaning closer to hear what Ueno trying to say

ferris wheel suddenly stops and Shouko's face hit the mirror hence the red mark

>get off the ferris wheel
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>>102251429
Fuck off.
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>>102251326
>>102251401
Sorry, wrong reading from my side, I guess? It doesn't, but we're in /a/.
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>everyone agreed that Mashida is a bro for the topic of the movie he wanted because it favored Ishida
It seems like you forgot that Ishida was a bully himself, too.
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>>102251409
>Shouko slapped herself to make Ueno look like a bitch
>Ueno's looking away because she knows Ishida will never believe her

It'd be the twist of the century
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>>102251441
The best guess so far imo.
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>>102251477
Girls gotta do their best to win the Ishidabowl.
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>>102251477
>the moment they get on the ferris wheel Shouko suddenly starts talking normally and wrecks Ueno
>pretending to be deaf was all part of her plan
>''they'll never believe you, bitch'' and proceeds to slap herself
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Hey guys
My friend from Japan just sent me this leaked image from next chapter
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>this manga
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>>102251697
>She actually got a cochlear implant over the timeskip and can hear
>She orchestrates Ueno getting raped over the next few chapters
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>>102251755
Did Nishimiya took boxing classes?
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>>102251776
Imagine always fearing that your daughter is getting tortured then you'll understand. I've really come to sympathize with Shouko's mom.
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>>102251835
Nishimiya is a amateur boxer didn't you see all the fights she was in as a kid
probably a golden gloves in japan
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>>102251755
Nice edit
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>>102251755
It would seem legit if not the upper frame.
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>>102251755
Next time mirror that.
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>>102251959
If he mirrored that, the source of edit will be more obvious.
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I missed Thaifag's thread, what happened last chapter?
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>>102252035
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/102243927/
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>>102251776

Remember to keep yourself hydrated while reading to avoid heart attacks out of rage
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>>102252064
Thanks anon!
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For fuck's sake. How hard could it be for Ishida to just plainly state the problem :

"Ueno, it is fucking retarded to blame a person for their mere existence. Shouko did nothing to antagonize us, the entire fucked up situation that came about was 100% constructed by us, and speaks nothing of her, but volumes about what we used to be. That you do not manage to grasp this but insist to place the blame at Shouko's doorstep tells me that you are not ready or interested to accept the reality of the situation and that you are still precisely the kind of vapid bitch I spent so many years trying to distance myself from. Shit, I'm not one to judge, but if I am that important to you, a good start to becoming friends would be accepting your part of the responsibility and acting like it."

There, problem solved, bam, we could fast forward 15 chapters if only Ishida knew how to construct a paragraph.
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>>102252480
Probably he could say something like that if he didn't feel himself like a piece of shit who has zero right to teach anyone.

Also, because drama and plot devices.
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Why doesn´t Ishida mentions how they were the shitfaces who distanced themselves from him?
He talks as if the break with his former friends was something he was responsible of when they were the ones who abandoned him.
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How much you wanna bet Yuzuru left the camera on to record the 'conversation' on the ferris wheel?
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>>102252770
I wondered what was the point of that panel. Nice catch, anon.
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>>102252770
Considering this author likes to put in small but important details that you initially gloss over, I have to wonder if her giving Shouko the camera was indeed important.
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I want to protect that smile
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does anyone else think Shimada might want to be make up with ishida again? He looked kind of sad when Ishida walked away from the stand without saying anything.

Maybe he was just sad/jealous with all the attention Ueno gives to Ishida or he realized Ishida didn't pay for his food.
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I missed the thread, where's chapter 26?
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>>102253200
>>102252064


Why would Ueno hit nishi if she is trying to get ishida's dick

won't this make it harder for her? I just don't understand bitches at all
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>>102253194
He is just thinking his life is shit and he wish he were breaking the bones of someone weaker than him.
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>>102253200
read the thread anon, someone posted a link.
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>>102253194

There might be a sliver of a chance that he's regretting his actions too, but I mean c'mon you don't beat up people THAT badly, especially if the guy was your fucking childhood friend.
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It seems like Sahara has always looked up to Ueno and wanted to gain her recognition or love and that's why she was so affected by Ueno's words in elementary school.
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>>102253194
I think he at least wanted to talk, hence his getting annoyed with Ueno.
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>>102253194
>or he realized Ishida didn't pay for his food
this
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>>102253378
Could be, though I don't think there's enough evidence to support that in the early chapters. Aside from the bitch comment, they only speak once, and all it is is Ueno asking to switch seats with her.
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>>102253455
And now he's gonna find him to beat him the fuck up for not paying.
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>Nishimiya do you like Shouya?
>Yes.
>Why would he like a deaf girl like you?
>He sure likes me better than you.
>Slap

Ueno is still best girl.
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Link to the thread with the tl?
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>>102253739
No?
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>>102252770
>>102252905
Crap, definitely! Somehow I missed those panels completely, having my attention at Ueno.
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>>102253838
Wait, this is still in speculation modo?
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>>102253892
No?
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>>102253739
How abou you read the fucking thread?
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>>102253739
Was posted before. Look on the thread.

>>102253728
>Nishimiya do you like Shouya?
>Yee.
>Why would he like a deaf girl like you?
>'e 'uye aiks ee etaah 'en yuu.
>Slap

Fixed for teh great nishilanguage.
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>>102253892
>>102253739
read the fucking thread, the link has already been posted
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>>102249834

WHAT THE FUCK
did I miss the scanlation thread??
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I can't imagine Shouko as offensive.
I think she rather step back and let Ueno be together with Ishida.
What if this pissed off Ueno?
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>>102254148
She probably made it clear that she likes Ishida. That alone would be enough to make Ueno bitch-slap her.
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Sahara seems like the type of girl that would get taken advantage of by an old man.
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>>102254033 ->
>>102253959
Yes, you did.
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>>102254481
In your oldmanly dreams.
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>>102254609
REading the archive now.
Fuck my entire soul
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>>102254647
I'm just saying she seems like the kind of girl who would accidentally prostitute herself
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>>102254649
It gotta be okay in the end, man... It gotta be okay...

Around vol. 7-10 or so. Gosh, never seen a slice of life so packed in action.
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I WANT TO GET OFF THIS EMOTIONAL ROLLER COASTER
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>>102254698
tbh, I have this feeling too, somehow. She looks like a lame clueless idiot. I'm now thinking it's because her sense of fashion is actually awful, not because she really is _that_ kind of chick.
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That camera was totally on. Oh god, the rage makes me feel so good.
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>>102254724
It's not slice of life you moron.
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>>102254794
You really think so or is it just the Ueno talking out of you?

I don't think her clothes are ugly.
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>>102254805
Ah, sorry. It's obviously is a mahou-shoujo with a horror bits here and there, like in the latest chapter.

And if being serious, what's the genre and why not slice? Is it an obligation for slice to be ultra-peaceful?
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>>102254794
>I'm now thinking it's because her sense of fashion is actually awful

Are we still talking about Sahara ?
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>>102254789
>I WANT TO GET OFF THIS EMOTIONAL FERRIS WHEEL
Fixed.
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>>102254939
Technically everything is slice of life because everyone has a life.
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>>102254862
At first she looked pretty cool, but then - that sweater with those high heels - I don't even know. But what I'm trying to say, with her not-so-good fashion sense (as we know from Ueno-school-chicks and Ueno herself) she might not be able to see herself with a detached view and thus fails to make her own image properly. I mean, she might not get how she actually looks for people just because she likes what she sees. That's something you must have if you're going for fashion; it might be developed with time and experience, tho.
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>>102255064
I'm seeing "slice of life" as "story where nothing extraordinary happen, story about ordinary people". For me, the slice is something that uses only normal human traits for building and developing the plot. This way, Yokohama shopping trip is hardly a slice of life, though it steel feels like one. Where's my mistake?
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I hope for a spear (football shoulder tackle takedown) on Ueno next week.
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>>102255102
You talk as if Ueno's and her slut brigade's judgement was absolute.
Maybe Sahara dresses differently than the rest, but that is by no means ugly or awful.
Just look at Ueno's dress-up. It's such a standard easy-chick-outfit.
She' just pretty conceited.
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>>102253246
Nishimiya said something that made Ueno lose control.

>Even my sister has seen his dick and you haven't
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Guys

guys

I'm kinda frightened by the enormous amount of panels where Shouko is giving her back (and often times walking away from) to the characters and the reader.

T-this is just a coincidence with no symbolic meaning, r-right?
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>>102255266
I was just shitposting, you are correct.

I never understood the point of tagging the genre, it covers way to many things, and is pretty much always coupled with 'drama'.
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>>102253194
He most likely regrets his actions, but his pride doesn't allow him to apologize so he doesn't deserve redemption yet.
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>>102252770
That doesn't seem to be the right kind of camera but it could be.

>yfw Yuzuru deletes it because somethings should only be said directly between people.
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>>102255266
You are misusing the term. Though there is no official definition as far as I know, you could have at least coincide with the most of /a/, as shows like YKK and Aria are pretty much definitions of a SoL here.
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>>102255363
Death flag confirmed.
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>>102255363
The author is just choosing to not give us her side of the story for now.
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>>102255102
>>102255290
I personally think Sahara's outfit is stylish and mature.
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>>102254939
Drama / romance.

Slice of life is just that : slices of life. It can have a few arcs, but overall there is no real "plot". See Yotsuba / Lucky Star / K-On.

KnK is the story of a guy being a dick to a deaf girl as a kid and trying to redeem himself. The story progress each week and we got 3 fucking cliffhangers.
That's not a slice of life.
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So what volume are we on right now?
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>>102255547
3ish
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>Shouko
Sits there deaf and dumb; she only has a little crush because he is the only guy who has ever cared about her.

>Ueno
Understands and genuinely loves Ishida.
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>>102255547
End of volume 3 I think.
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>>102255266
Slice of life generally has no progressing plot, just things happening day to day.

Things heavy with drama and advancing plot and characters like KnK is not slice of life.
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>>102255570
1 to 7 more volumes of suffering, I don't think I live through that
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>>102255290
Man I don't think Short-shorts are an easy girl outfit, maybe my female friends desensitized me but sometimes it's just hot, and/or shorts feel nice according to them.
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>>102255422
Reflex cameras can film alright. And Im pretty confident that's what Yuzuru uses.

My guess is that Ishida will snap at Ueno. Then Nishimiya will stop him and get angry at him.
Ishida won't understand what the fuck is going on, then Yuzuru will call him and show him what really happened in the ferris wheel or try to get Shouko and Ishida to discuss because she know what happened.
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>>102255647
Sure and they show so much cleavage, so their boobs get some constant fresh air, right?
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>>102255682
But, what if she's confessing in it?
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>>102250640

I wish Ueno would meet Shouko's mother. I could totally see Ueno put her tail between her legs. Maybe even bring in Ueno's mother to show how much of a cunt she is.
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>>102255647
Having two sisters, I can say that ladies do indeed prefer wearing that kind of thing, at least partly for comfort.
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>>102255572

You sound like a Lindafag, and I mean it as an insult.
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>>102255572
>Ueno

No, she's just had a crush for 5 years and elevated him in her mind to perfect, she knows nothing about the last 5 years of his life, which is huge when you're that young.
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>>102255713
Well sometimes they go topless.
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>>102255714
That's my second theory. Yuzuru will keep the video to herself but will get Ishida and her sister to talk and get over their misunderstandings.
Then Shouko tries to confess but shit happens.
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>>102255572
Don't be hating man.

Also Ueno is weird kind of girl, she's clearly a bitch cause even in her own flashbacks she's mean and somewhat insulting. But was affected by Sahara's words enough to talk her and become actual friends.
And the fact that even while they're friends Ueno is still vaguely insulting shows that maybe that's just her way of being affectionate. I mean she was pretty happy when she and Ishida were insulting each other.
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>>102255320
>eben muah seesta hac cein hic dik a'n uoh haben't
*fixed
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>>102255938
Ueno hasn't apoligized for ruining sahara's childhood.
Her pride and entitlement are selfish as fuck, as long as she keeps that shit up, she'll remain a terrible person.
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>>102256031
What? Where do you get the impression that she hasn't apologized?
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>>102255422
The whole reason Yuzuru came on the trip is because Broccoli wanted to use her camera for the film he wanted to make.
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>>102255744
To be fair no one really knows what he's been through those last 5 years. Plus someone calculated that with the best minimum wage in the Japan Ishida would still have had to spend most of his non-school time working to earn that money, not taking into account any expenses. So it's not like he did much physically. Really it was School-> Work->SL school-> Sleep->school
On the inside though no one really knows what eh was going through. His mom probably had some inkling, but not a very good picture. And god knows what his sister knows.

Plus beyond all that None of his friends and family (except maybe his sister?) know the full extent of his turmoil those past years.
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>>102255517
Oh-kay, I felt like something was wrong. But is there any label I can slap onto non-supernatural superdude stuff?

>>102255395
Seems like you weren't, and I actually got my mistake exposed to me now.
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>>102256100
I'm basing this on thaibros translation, which aren't 100%, but still, I don't see Ueno apologizing.
She has too much pride for that.
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>>102255572
She doesn't understand the nouveau Ishida at all.
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>>102256148
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>>102256203
Hm, perhaps she hasn't.
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>>102255517
>>102255633
You guys are just making up definitions.
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>>102256031
Where do you get the impression she didn't apologize?

Just cause she didn't do it (for real) to Shouko doesn't mean she didn't do it to Sahara.

>>102255713
Sometimes it probably is hot. But my friends don't really wear low tops.
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>>102255488
>>102255290
But does she actually want to look that mature? She might be not understanding what she actually looks like and what vibe does she give. That's the only thing I'm trying to point out here; liking or not liking some parts of her clothes are a matter of taste imo and not important to discuss.
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>>102256224
She is the only one who understands he is in constant pain because of that deaf bitch. She is the only one who wants him to do something about himself rather than wallow in misery.
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>>102255714
That'll be hilarious.

Ishida is getting mad at Ueno, Yuzuru calm him down, take her camera from Shouko and bring him away from the group so they can review the thing.

In the middle of the tape you clearly hear "S-SUKI ISHIDA'". Or something. Cue Yuzuru's smug smile, Nishiyama blushing like all hell and Ishida frozen.
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>>102256203
She never really said one way or another if she apologized. Plus I felt the implication was that that day wasn't a magical we're friends now day but the beginning of a slow building friendship.
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>>102256031
She apologised with her deeds. Still, a prideful egoist she is. I won't be surprised if she had no actual friends in the new school.
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>>102256289
Ueno is a fucking piece of shit and unless she rubs her forehead on the ground she remains a terrible person.
Her pride means absolute jackshit, yet she clings on that faint superiority feeling.
I don't care how much she's agonizing from the inside, unless she makes amends and acknowledges the impact of her actions, she remains a bitch.

You want to know how I get the impression she didn't apologize?
Because she hasn't apologized to either Shouko or Ishida, she just showed up and said "we're friends now because I want ishidas dick"
Fucking selfish piece of shit slut, I hate her, I HATE HER
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>>102256333
Well, I guess she could have a skewed perception of fashion since she apparently leeches fashion sense and advice from Ueno (or at least that's how I understood the little flashback).
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>>102256511
Give me one example and I'll tell you why she did it out of selfishness.
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>>102256528
>Because she hasn't apologized to either Shouko or Ishida
What?
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>>102256224
Does anyone?

I mean even if you buy the interpretation that Shouko herself was suicidal at one point that doesn't really mean much in terms of understanding considering how different people take on depression. Everyone else at the table barely knows him, and was caught of guard by his "I wanna die" talk

Sure Shouko and him both have being bullied in common, but well everyone takes in differently, and without talking about with him she can't bridge the gap between her experience and his.
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How mad is Ishida going to be?
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>>102256528
Dude, calm down, she's a nice person at heart.
She just looks down on idiots and weak people.

She showed up because she wanted to have fun, sometimes it's better to let bygones be gybones and have fun.
Why bring past history when everyone came together to have fun?

Did you want her to spoil the day with more drama?


People generally don't want or need to apologize unless they realize that they did something wrong. Obviously, Ueno did nothing wrong or felt that she did wrong, therefore she's fine.
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>>102256635
Ok you got me there.
That fucking shiteating-grin though.
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>>102256651
That still doesn't make Ueno a better ishidakatachi.
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>>102256635
Not him, but that ain't a sufficient apology.
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>>102256635
She doesn't feel really apologetic, she is still blaming most of everything on Shouko. She is sorry for the herself not being with Ishida, not sorry to him.
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>>102256689
>People generally don't want or need to apologize unless they realize that they did something wrong. Obviously, Ueno did nothing wrong or felt that she did wrong, therefore she's fine.
anon pls
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>>102256695
>shit eating grin
You're being bias dude, she was truly sorry about it.
You wouldn't say you're sorry if she didn't mean it.
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>>102256709
She doesn't even have a reason to apologize to Ishida, she did nothing to him.
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>>102256689
>She just looks down on idiots and weak people.
That's one of the worst things a person can grow in their soul.
Trust me, I've been living with an adult like that since earliest childhood and it ruined my life.
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>>102256689
>Ueno did nothing wrong or felt that she did wrong, therefore she's fine.
This is why Uenofags opinions belong to the trash
And this is coming from someone who more than often defend her
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>>102256695
She just tries to look gentle and cute, lol.
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>>102256635
>I'm so sorry, pls forgive me, let's bully Nishimiya again like old times
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>>102256709
Sufficient or not, it was sincere. And Ishida didn't care because he has no sense of self worth anyway.
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>>102256749
She did betrayed him and abandoned him back in elementary school, along with the rest of the class.
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>>102256695
Looks more like an awkward smile to me.
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How big is the chance that this will get an anime?
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>>102256689
>Obviously, Ueno did nothing wrong or felt that she did wrong, therefore she's fine.
I hate to do this but by that same logic Hitler did nothing wrong
>she's a nice person at heart.
>She just looks down on idiots and weak people.
What
>She showed up because she wanted to have fun
So she acted out of selfishness, not very befitting for a nice person is it
>Did you want her to spoil the day with more drama?
I don't want drama, I just don't want her occupying another panel or speech bubble ever again in this manga.

Regretting the actions of your past and amending for them is something that matures your character.
>>102256805
>oh you tried to kill yourself because of my bullying, gomen lol, aren't I kawaii uguu~?
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>>102256528
She did apologize to him even if it was half hearted in effort she meant it.>>102256635

Man even the Catholic Church realized that grovelling on your feet doesn't really add anything to your pleas for forgiveness.

Plus I really don't get where the Pride thing is coming from? The time she told Nagatsuka that someone as lowly as him shouldn't touch her?
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>>102256685
He's going to be more mad than us.

Remember how he yelled at Shouko when she was talking to him about past classmates?

He's not going to yell at Ueno, he's going to get furious.
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>>102256749
She abandoned him as a friend.
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>>102256741
Have you ever apologized because of something you felt like shit for? You don't because you know you're right.
Therefore she did nothing wrong.

>>102256757
Why? Dumb people do dumb things all the time. Being awkward or asocial is not something to be praised.
So long as you aren't physical, you can say whatever you want because it's how you see someone else.

Ueno sees her as being weaker since she's mute and thereby worthless. Nothing worth with that. The evolution from that is to simply ignore people in general rather than hate lowly people.

And I know where you're coming from.
I lived with my dad who treated me like shit and was endlessly critical of my every actions.
Once you realize that people are lowly, you set yourself a better standard for yourself and how you see others.

>>102256763
You'll see, she's a good person.
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>>102250640
Ueno halfassedly tried to become friends with Nishimiya but she wasn't having any of it and started calling her out on her bullshit. Mutual slaps ensued. Calling it.
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>>102256842
low
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I wonder, are the Japs as mad as us these past weeks?
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>>102256757
Hey my father's like that and he's a pretty great guy,
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>>102256843
Of course Hitler did nothing wrong.
He only kickstarted back his country from ruin and straighten things up a bit.
You don't get to be Time's best person by being shit.

Ueno is the same, except with less killing.
She wants to be friends with someone with her childhood and just sees someone lowly.
It isn't jealousy or anything like that, she just wants to be friends and hates lowly people.
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>>102256849
>Plus I really don't get where the Pride thing is coming from?
Because of her self pride, she acts like she did nothing wrong, and that the others should just forget about her partaking in the destruction of their childhood and become friends with her because she's ronery due to her shit character and absence of people who want to stick their dick in crazy.
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>>102253194
Shimada's expression strikes me as being that of someone who doesn't care, actually. It was like, "Welp, he was here and I tried, meh"
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>>102256893
>Have you ever apologized because of something you felt like shit for? You don't because you know you're right.
but I have anon
I was a soft kid , if I got into a fight I was apologize win or lose for getting in the fight in the first place. I did the same with my brother after I bullied him into giving me the gameboy

my mom raised me better , I wasn't raised a brat.
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>>102256893
>You'll see, she's a good person.
I'm a good person too, I suppose if I were to buy a rifle and go on a killing spree you'd still regard me as a good person, right?
You're just being edgy m8
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>>102256981
Come the fuck on man.
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>>102256849
>even the Catholic Church realized
Was it recent? I though that was obvious.

The pride thing is everywhere on what she's doing, though Even the way she "made it up" with Sahara. But making up is still better than not making up, and Ueno will slowly repent.
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>>102255027
>I WANT TO GET OFF THIS EMOTIONAL FERRIS WHEEL
But then you are the bottom.
It's same with the roller coaster but there the metaphor is different.
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>>102256960
I think some nuances are being lost in translation because a week or two ago somebody here posted that they were surprised at our hateboner for ueno
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>>102256977
Your daddy is an asshole.
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>>102256689
Anon the fuck are you saying? Even as an Uenofag she clearly did something wrong and she knows it.

Hell she even knows that he doesn't see her as a friend despite the pretence of him being cool with seeing her again, and how their hanging out.

>>102256703
I didn't say it does but not knowing him isn;t a factor
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>>102256893
>Have you ever apologized because of something you felt like shit for?
Yes, I was raised to apologize for actions I regret to the people whom I involved in it.
>Ueno sees her as being weaker since she's mute and thereby worthless. Nothing worth with that.
Why the in the fuck are you even reading this manga?
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/a/ just kill me now i'm scared to continue after ueno asked shouko to go on the ferris wheel. i must know will it be suffering?
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>>102257172
Ahahaha read past that part you faggot

No suffering. Only rage.
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>>102257172
It ends just as you think it would.
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>>102256893
>You'll see, she's a good person.
I don't give a shit.
She acted and she is acting like shit.
She ignored the guy she swore to have always like for 5 fucking years, one day pops up and puts all the blame on the disabled girl that everyone, HER INCLUDED, bullied because [unforgivable reason], tries to bully her again thinking that's a good idea to connect with him, lashes out like a psycho to a fat kid, slaps deaf girl

Actions don't lie, she's shit. If my beloved son ever acted like this, no matter how good of a boy I know he is, no matter how well I know his true, good nature, I'd still fuck him up and make him pay for his abysmal conduct.

Ueno may be just a misguided, tsundere, stupid girl with maybe a harsh past (and that's still to ascertain), but this doesn't change at all the gravity of her actions and behavior.
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>>102257233
>>102257240
NO NO NO NO UENO DEATH WHEN?! THERE WILL NEVER BE AN END TO THE SUFFERING AND RAGE
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>>102257126
The whoever I was answering to said that Ueno understands him and is better then Shouko because of that.
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Does Ishida feel the same way about Shouko?

... Not that it matters much; his self-hatred is going to stop him from doing anything about it.
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>>102256849
Well the Church took a couple of centuries to excuse themselves for what they did to Galileo.
Not to mention they never truly excused themselves for what they did in the Inquisition.

>>102257058
Hitler was a pretty chill dude.
Loved by his country, murrica like the guy who had a well running country in the middle of a Great Depression.

>>102257126
Or maybe she's happy to be with people.
Alone, you show more of your true colors but with a group, you just put on a mask since you want to have fun.

Obviously Ueno sees her lowly and she never once praised her or remarked anything other than saying ''oh it's cool that you're a mute''.

>>102257029
No, because you caused murder without a goal.
Don't do to others what you wouldn't want people to do to you.

Obviously you can tell people that they're shit if you feel that way and it's perfectly fine for people to call you shit for your own flaws.
It creates potential for growth.

If no one mentions your flaws, you live in a delusion that you don't need to change.

>>102257327
Hey, she forgot about him, shit happens.
She lashed out at a psycho fat kid because he kept pushing and didn't get the fucking clue.
>wow you reacted when pushed to a corner, shows how evil your soul is

What a bunch of bullshit that brocollibro did on her. It truly showed nothing other than she was put on the spot and pushed.

Ueno just needs to be able to communicate more and we'll see her being a good person and on good terms too.
People are simply overeacting.
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>>102257107
I can see how'd you'd think that.

>>102257012
Yeah that's the vibe I get.

Also people are actually falling for his bait?
>>102256981
>>102256689

>>102257003
Not everyone grovels back when apologizing, and not everyone even expects grovelling even from grievous shit. Had a friend abandon our group to go soul searching and because it dawned on him that we apparently shit. I forgave him with no issue. (though probably helped by the fact that he was always cool with me) still everyone else seemed to just let it go as easily.
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>>102257340
What a fucking self-righteous bitch.
>little saint disable girl gets bullied to death
>she's in on it, whether for malice or just to please Ishida
>Ishida gets bullied for 5 years and she doesn't move a finger
>meanwhile all is going fine to her
>Ishida I understand you
Kinda late for that, don't you think?
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>>102257567
Why are you giving it to me?
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>>102257457
I don't mean Ueno seeing what she did to Shouko as wrong, she probably writes it of as child's play, but she knows she screwed Ishida over.
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>>102257463
I'm not baiting.

>>102257567
She didn't want to be bullied.
Is it worth to be an outcast so that she can potentially be with the person she likes?

She probably wanted to protect Ishida from being bullied but, again, she didn't want to be seen as a lowly person so she kept silent.

Now that he's not bullied and they are of equal standing, she sees that it's fine to be with him again.

Sure, possibly hypocritical that she didn't help him in his time of suffering but wants to be with him now that he's no longer bullied or seen as a lowly person, but she likely always cared for him. She likely understands what it's likely being under criticism and not being accepted (either from parents or similar experience, doesn't really matter) but she's just using it as a way to be closer with him.
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>>102257457
>Obviously you can tell people that they're shit if you feel that way and it's perfectly fine for people to call you shit for your own flaws.
It creates potential for growth.
Holy shit look at this euphoric edgelord.
morals r 4 n00bs lol
I'm not taking society lesson from a NEET, broski.

>shit happens
Understatement of the century.

>She lashed out at a psycho fat kid because he kept pushing
>little kid genuinely think he received a message
>answers to it
>DIE YOU DISGUSTING FUCKING FAGGOT
Funny how later on you menion "overreacting"

Anyway I see your wall of text and I see what you're doing here.
Revel into your fedora blogshit some moe
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>>102257821
*since they met
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>>102257782
>Is it worth to be an outcast so that she can potentially be with the person she likes?
Did your wrists bleed while typing that?
What a fucking hypocritical faggot.
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>>102257968
Worth or not, it's actually hard for a little schoolgirl cunt to go AGAINST DA SYSTEM for someone she likes. Not like it makes her a good person, but is understandable.
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>>102257873
Shit posting to counter possible shitposting is still shitposting.

Also I kinda agree with him, although I don't think we should be insulting to each other blunt and possibly painful honesty is something I always prefer. I don't wanna hear "You might last 6months" I wanna hear " 1month if you're above average"

>>102257821
It's because she was also still being bullied and in her mind that was a point of connection. Ishida probably doesn't know that was. He think the bullying which actually did happen was all directed at him but chances are she cleaned her own desk as well as his.
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>>102257821
It's both.

>>102257873
>lel le anonymous fedora edgy faggot
NO U.
You sound really underage.

I saw it as a ''fuck off faggot... I TOLD YOU TO FUCK OFF, DIE YOU FUCKING DISGUSTING FAGGOT''.

Nothing bad except that it was processional, therefore fine.
It's not like she just screamed at him out of nowhere immediately, that would be overreacting.

>>102257968
She considers being accepted by society better than being with the guy she likes.
Love isn't fucking all self sacrifice and shit. Sometimes, social pressure is harsher than our needs.
Don't tell me she would deliberately go ahead with the risk of losing all her friends and status all for one guy?
At a young age on top of that, where friends mean almost everything?

Yeah, no.
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>>102258064
Of course.
But hard or not, you're still shit if you don't do something about it. You may choose to live peacefully and be a hypocrite shitty coward or to get shit thrown at you by the system but doing the right thing and showing your value.
She choose to be a hypocrite and a shitty coward and didn't even make up for it.
Understandable or not, it's still extremely bad and she needs to do a lot to atone for it.

>>102258119
>She considers being accepted by society better than being with the guy she likes.
>Love isn't fucking all self sacrifice and shit. Sometimes, social pressure is harsher than our needs etc etc
>all this /pol/-tier euphoria
This thread is going places
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>>102258119
it was progressional* not processional.
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>>102258119
>I saw it as a ''fuck off faggot... I TOLD YOU TO FUCK OFF, DIE YOU FUCKING DISGUSTING FAGGOT''.
>Nothing bad
Sounds like maximum projecting, compadre.
Who are you trying to defend? Ueno or the abusive relationship you've been object of?
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>>102257968
It's a nice image to think that love means throwing it all away from someone but really love that destroys you isn't a healthy love.
Hell in that scenario she'd be in the same unhealthy situation Shouya is in now, where his world is built upon one person.

Does it excuse her abandonment? No it was still a shitty thing to do, but asking the opposite of her would be unreasonable as well. "You and me vs the world" Tends to end with someone dead, or realizing that they're not fighting the world. But that's a long as time for a child to plan ahead for.
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>>102258306
Daily reminder that /pol/ is right therefore that argument is right.
God I love syllogism logic.

Anyways, you're the one who needs to know more about people themselves.
Would you openly tell people you like lolis if it meant people would look at you wrong, your family could treat you like shit and you could lose your job and friends?
It's the same shit except with Ueno, it's her social status and friends. Conformity is important as fuck in Japan.
She wouldn't jump in and say something.

>>102258419
It really isn't.
Faggot didn't get the message that the message wasn't meant for him.

If someone doesn't understand when you politely say no, you raise your voice.
If he/she does not understand, you call him a shit and tell them to fuck off.

That's how it works.
Being in an ''abusive relationship'' has nothing to do with anything.
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Koe no Katachi? more like Rage no Katachi
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>>102258119
>Don't tell me she would deliberately go ahead with the risk of losing all her friends and status all for one guy?
Except the mentioned "friends" were nothing else than a bunch of hypocritical shallow hyenas living by RULES OF NATURE when the setting is not MGR nor the savannah, attacking the wounded member of the pack.
Sure some friends you'd want to keep close.

And yes, it may seems impossible for your dark, twisted and torn world, but kind people and real FRIENDS do that, they're willing to risk something, even their status, to help you out, more so if you're right and the others are wrong.
Multiple and comproved personal direct and indirect experience
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>>102258535
Reminds me of the ending to Toradora where they realize throwing away all their family and friends to be with each other is an incredibly stupid decision.
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>>102258589
>Daily reminder that /pol/ is right therefore that argument is right. God I love syllogism logic.
>God I love syllogism logic.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
THREAD OVER
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>>102258306
>>Love isn't fucking all self sacrifice and shit

But it isn't, a love that is all one person sacrificing is sad at best. If the love destroys you you gotta drop it like it's hot.
To even say that you should always put yourself second if to counter-act your own basic dignity, that's not even Euphoria that's theological.

That said I'm still half convinced he's baiting.
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>>102258589
>God I love syllogism logic.
>16 yo opens his first philosophy book
>goes on /a/ to show his superior enlightened vision of the world
This whole fuckin thread is pure gold.
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>>102249834
>Why did Ueno slap Shouko?

Because of her try hard fake smile and behaviour,It has been said Ueno hates this kind of acts.
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Why is this argument still going? I stopped taking this guy seriously right when he started.
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>>102250640
is it translated already?
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>>102258687
He's being satirical of the dude he was responding to by pointing out that the guy was using syllogism by indirectly saying he was wrong using he using /pol/ logic

He's kinda wrong though since he himself wasn't using syllogism correctly so there's a level of irony lost there
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>ITT: teens and special snowflakes argue about who's the most mature and adult
Julia dies
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>>102258823
We had a thread earlier today, search for Thaifag in the archive
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>>102258800
I think one of the biggest mysteries is how much of Shouko's kindness is just an act and/or her being unable or unwilling to show anger at people, and how much is it of her being just plain kind.
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>>102258620
It's still friends.
No matter if they are idiots, faggot, rapist or whatever, if you feel happy to be accepted, you'll likely put up with anything until you can no longer take it anymore.
If being with friends leads you to not be treated like the black sheep of the school and you can live normally, people will likely pick that option.
Especially in nipland, where conformity is everything.

Sure, REAL friends and people you hang out with are not the same but would you rather have no friends than people you hang out with, even if you despise them for some of their actions.
Ueno was friends with that gang for a decent amount of time, it's really stupid to assume she would just jump ship to be with the guy she likes.

>>102258687
You really fucking don't understand sarcasm for some reason.
Christ fucking sake man.
>lel you sound like /pol/
>well duh, /pol/ is always right
>OMG OMG OMG HE SAYS /pol/ IS ALWAYS RIGHT ABBANDON SHIP
Argh. Fuck everything.

>>102258782
>>102258835
That's the joke.

It's not meant to be anything.
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>>102258935
I know I got your joke but I said you could have done it better.

Also I think I'm cursed every time I start a KnK thread if it doesn't die in under 50 it always has a massive shitstorm in it.
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>>102258935
>you'll likely put up with anything until you can no longer take it anymore
That's exactly what makes her a weak, hypocritical, coward bitch.
Ironically, exactly the kind of traits Ueno declares to hate about Nishimiya.
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>>102259034
Meh, you're right. Maybe I shouldn't have done that.
But calling me an edgy fedora wearing faggot really gets on my nerve because it's more of ad hominem than anything else.

Sorry about creating a shitstorm though, I just want to discuss Uedo since people always keep calling her a bitch when there's obviously more than just that.

>>102259071
Maybe she hates Nishimiya because she sees a part of her old self in there.

She wished she could help but couldn't and she probably hates herself for it.
Hell, maybe it's the reason she wants to hook back up, to make up for the time she wasn't able to be with him.
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>>102259258
>Maybe she hates Nishimiya because she sees a part of her old self in there
Most likely, and this just confirms her hypocritical nature. Negative trait.

>maybe it's the reason she wants to hook back up, to make up for the time she wasn't able to be with him
Also obvious. Still doesn't change the fact that she ignored him for 5 years, which is another inherently bad trait.

I think we agree that she's being an awful person and needs to work a lot to amend for it.
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>>102259258
>But calling me an edgy fedora wearing faggot really gets on my nerve because it's more of ad hominem than anything else.
Not that I want to start another shitstorm, but this is exactly the kind of thing to say on /a/ if you want to identify yourself as a raging autist, and to be honest I'm doubting your normalcy too.
You're on /a/, not on reddit, don't expect people to take you seriously if you spout this kind of immature bullshit.
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>>102259497
She didn't see him for those past 5 years.
Or at least, we have seen what happened between them for all those years.

Both were shocked when they saw each other again and it was at that moment that they connected back together.

I personally see it not as being a negative trait but her being unable to do anything, which can be seen as a negative trait, won't deny that, but she's just trying to make amends by getting close to Ishida.
Honestly, the only bad thing she did was bad mouth and not being able to do anything.
It's not really enough to dub her a bitch.
She never actively looked to harm anyone.
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>>102259748
I'm not the one going all ''LEL LOOK AT ALL THIS /pol/ wearing fedora logic shit''.
I just laughed at his stupid exageration.

I don't really understand what you mean by ''normalcy'' though.

I don't know how people react on reddit, never been there, and I didn't really expect people to take my goddamn /pol/ argument serious, especially when I was trying to be obvious about it. Apparently people took it seriously since one guy kept going at it calling it fedora euphoric logic shit.
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>>102259756
>bullying Shouko in elementary school
>treating Broccoli horribly for no fucking reason don't even think about justifying her again with your autistic "progressional" argument, seriously, you'll just look incredibily autistic
>tries to pull the same bullying shit on Shouko again 5 years later
>probably slapped Shouko in the face
>She never actively looked to harm anyone.
I don't know how to tell you this

>>102259914
Stop. Please stop, seriously. You're losing all your credibility, just don't answer
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>>102259981
>tries to pull the same bullying shit on Shouko again 5 years later
Not physically.

>treating Broccoli horribly for no fucking reason
Yes, I will use my progressinal argument. Faggot kept pushing that the love letter belong to him and that she was interested in him,
Ueno didn't like him and told him to fuck off. And, again, it wasn't an immediate snap. She told him there was a misunderstanding and Broccolibro pushed on and that's where she snapped.

I've seen this fucking argument in real life too many times to know it's bullshit
>ha did you see, I got an outspoken reaction from that person, she/he isn't collective, it means he/she is either hiding something or had infinite rage
Really pisses me off what Broccolibro did to her because it proves nothing other than he annoyed the fuck out of her and she snapped.
Only shows that the way she snapped could have been better but he's still the one who forced her like that.
>probably slapped Shouko
We only saw a bruise, no confirmation on what really happened. I'll wait and see until we know more.

Honestly, you're the one exaggerating.
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>>102260267
You Ueno apologists really know how to rev up the shitposting.
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>>102260267
Not the same guy but...
>Not physically
She took her hearing aid and gave it to Ishida expecting him to throw it or something.
Also, verbal abuse is as bad as physical abuse.

>Yes, I will use my progressinal argument. Faggot kept pushing that the love letter belong to him and that she was interested in him,
Ueno didn't like him and told him to fuck off. And, again, it wasn't an immediate snap. She told him there was a misunderstanding and Broccolibro pushed on and that's where she snapped.
The guy has almost 0 social experience and most probably never even talked with a girl. Of course he was going to get obnoxious when he thought a girl liked him.
The bitch could had been clear instead of 'snapping' and throwing so much shit against the guy.
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>>102260267
>Not physically.
>implying psychological bullying isn't even worse than physical bullying
>the whole post
Now I seriously think you have autism or something, no kidding. Welp

Later, Katachis
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>>102260403
>shitposting
>making mostly complete sense instead of raging and wishing rape and death on a teenage girl

not the same dude but you're retarded
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>>102260488
>he guy has almost 0 social experience and most probably never even talked with a girl. Of course he was going to get obnoxious when he thought a girl liked him.
The bitch could had been clear instead of 'snapping' and throwing so much shit against the guy.

How can it be any any more clear than "it was a misunderstanding, please forget about it?" That's about as clear as it can get. Did she overreact? Yeah, but Broccoli should have just listened instead of going up and touching her and shit. No social experience doesn't give you a free pass to be a creepy fuck.
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>>102260403
>arguments that are against my point of view are shitposting
Look who's talking.

>>102260488
Eh, no real argument, bullying is bad. Everyone was a shit as a kid.
She didn't really hit her nor pull the ear piece of of her ear, so it's not as bad as what Ishida did.

>The guy has almost 0 social experience and most probably never even talked with a girl. Of course he was going to get obnoxious when he thought a girl liked him.
That's his fucking problem. He used it as a way to show that Ueno is a bad person.
The issue is that people bring it up as an ''ah ha, did you see her snap! Someone who isn't a bitch wouldn't have snapped!''.

It really isn't a good argument and even Ishida is skeptical about it.

>>102260491
Psychological bullying is still terribly bad but still not worse than physical bullying imo.
It's more a form of bullying where you basically have no control over and therefore makes it harder to stop or protect yourself.
At least with physical bullying, you can try to run away but it hurts more.
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>>102260681
And someone being a creepy fuck doesn't mean you should scream at him and commit battery.

I don't know what kind of asshat you are that thinks that's an acceptable reaction to someone who is being annoying and grabs your hand.
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I’m starting to feel bad for Ueno. I’m pretty sure she just has the worst communication problems out of everyone in this manga. She has feelings for Ishida, but can’t reconcile what she did and takes it out on Shouko.

To make matters worse she knows Ishida is crushing on Shouko, who is the complete opposite of her. I think she genuinely wants to make up for everything, but her short temper, crass way of talking, and self-loathing is getting in the way. She tries, fails, gets frustrated, and lashes out. I’m really hoping she’ll be able to muster the strength and admit all of this at some point and would hate for her to just be a selfish, manipulative cunt for drama purposes.

I still want Shouko to win though.
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>>102249834
Scans where?!
Google doesn't give me squat and it isn't up on mangatraders for download
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>>102260908
>And someone being a creepy fuck doesn't mean you should scream at him and commit battery.
Really?

So if someone were to be wearing your underwear or some creepy shit or stalking and kept being forceful, you wouldn't have any reason for snapping at that person after you calmly tell him to fuck off?

I really hate society that says that you always have to be calm, collected and never show rage or anger.
That being angry shows that you lose control and probably means that you have a problem, rather than the obviousness of someone simply losing patience with someone who clearly doesn't understand.
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>>102260681
I don´t think there is a single person who would feel satisfied if the girl he thought was in love with him just tells him " It was a misunderstanding, just forget about it."
Wanted a more elaborated explanation is the most normal thing to do.

>>102260840
>The issue is that people bring it up as an ''ah ha, did you see her snap! Someone who isn't a bitch wouldn't have snapped!''.
I don´t think any normal girl would react in that way just because a guy touched her.
Yes, they would tell him to fuck off, but not in such a violent way.

>>102260840
>Psychological bullying is still terribly bad but still not worse than physical bullying imo.
Psychological bullying is way worse than phisycal bullying. Though phisycal bullying cause psychological damage too.
Some guy beating the shit out of you is terrible when he is doing it but it eventually stops and you can overcome it.
Some guy telling you you´re shit and doing everything he can to make you feel miserable and completely inferior to everyone else can leave you so fucked up that it will affect the rest of your life.
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>>102250664

That describes the majority of people who commit murder. It's usually over really dumb reasons.
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>>102260967
>she knows Ishida is crushing on Shouko
You mean she THINKS that.

It's not the truth, Ishida has way to much self pity to be anywhere near that stage.
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>>102251697
We need doujin of this.
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>>102260267
This whole post is hilarious.

Seriously, I'm not even particulary against Ueno, but this is incredible.
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>>102261079
You drawing an extreme here. It was the first time broccoli met her, and the worst thing he did was grab her hand, nowhere near the level of stalking and stealing you are suggesting.

I do respect that everyone has different tolerance standards for others being annoying, but I still feel it's rude to lash out at another person.
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>>102261211

Liking Shouko and thinking he's good enough for her are two different things. Even if he doesn't like her romantically he likes her a hell of a lot more than Ueno right now.
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>>102260967
I'm hoping she wins too.
Both of them truly deserve to be with each other.
I really don't mind who wins but Shouko deserves it more.

>>102261109
>Yes, they would tell him to fuck off, but not in such a violent way.
What a load of shit.

And what's wrong with her telling him to fuck off in a violent way after he doesn't understand?
Calmly repeat the exact same shit in hopes he magically understands? Fuck no, you raise your voice and try and make it clearer.

Seriously, what would you have done? Explain again the situation? Close the door on him?
Sure, you'd likely think of a better scenario but you're calmly sitting down on your computer, you don't have a fucking whale in front of you holding a love letter wanting to date you.

As for bullying, you can overcome both.
One just has more of a lasting impression depending on how you look at it.
I personally think that physical bullying is worst because you desperately feel weak without a way out whereas psychological bullying makes you feel laughed at.

>>102261335
It's rude but does being rude show anything other than being rude when pushed in a corner?
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>>102260908
>And someone being a creepy fuck doesn't mean you should scream at him and commit battery.

You're telling me if a creepy guy isn't listening to you telling him to fuck off and grabs your hand, you can't smack that shit away? She was polite, explained the situation, he didn't listen and grabbed her. Her reaction, while extreme, made sense.

>>102261109
>I don´t think there is a single person who would feel satisfied if the girl he thought was in love with him just tells him " It was a misunderstanding, just forget about it."
>Wanted a more elaborated explanation is the most normal thing to do.

That's bullshit. He didn't ask for a more detailed explanation ("are you sure? you did hand this to me after all...") he fucking grabbed her.
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>>102261483
>And what's wrong with her telling him to fuck off in a violent way after he doesn't understand?
>Calmly repeat the exact same shit in hopes he magically understands? Fuck no, you raise your voice and try and make it clearer.
She didn´t explained shit. She said "It was a mistake", the guy thought she was being shy and the second he touched her she snapped.

>As for bullying, you can overcome both.
>One just has more of a lasting impression depending on how you look at it.
>I personally think that physical bullying is worst because you desperately feel weak without a way out whereas psychological bullying makes you feel laughed at.
In both cases you are suffering psychological damage. And it´s not such an easy thing to overcome.
Psychological wounds always last longer than physical wounds.

>>102261524
He thought she was embarassed about it. As I said, the guy has 0 experience when it comes to this kind of thing,
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>>102261828
Meh, miscommunications with miscommunications.

This fucking manga is both characters being in the wrong anyways.

I'm also not saying that these things are easy to overcome. Bullying always hurts and always sticks with you.
Trying to level over better or easier maybe might not be the best way to see it.

Also, he was doing the whole romeo bullshit to test it, it wasn't that he didn't have any experience to this sort of thing.
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>>102261211
I think that he does feel something for her, but he won't acknowledge said feelings. Instead, he is choosing to wallow in his self-hatred and self-pity. It's likely he will get over this by the end of the manga.
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>>102262072
to test her*
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>>102261828
>In both cases you are suffering psychological damage. And it´s not such an easy thing to overcome.
>Psychological wounds always last longer than physical wounds.

This is shitty generalization. I got bullied and beat up in middle school, and I was far more pissed off about getting tripped and punched than I was about someone calling me names. People react differently to bullying and some people have thicker skin than others. Ueno was cunty for stealing Shouko's hearing aid again, but the situation was more complicated than that.

>He thought she was embarassed about it. As I said, the guy has 0 experience when it comes to this kind of thing,

Ignorance doesn't excuse you from repercussions for your actions. How was Ueno supposed to know he was a unsocialized moron?
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>>102262072
>Meh, miscommunications with miscommunications.
Nice way to avoid giving a proper answer

>Also, he was doing the whole romeo bullshit to test it, it wasn't that he didn't have any experience to this sort of thing.
Since when has that kind of thing been proof that someone has experience with women?
He could had seen that shit in a movie, a manga, an anime...Even I could copy some of the shit I had seen and it wouldn´t mean that I have any experience.
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>>102260967

I don't know why But I want ueno to win.
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>>102261828
>the guy thought she was being shy and the second he touched her she snapped.

Fuck guy, this might be a plot point.

What if she hates being touched for some reason ?
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>>102262233
>Ueno was cunty for stealing Shouko's hearing aid again, but the situation was more complicated than that.
How? She stole it because she wanted to impress Ishida. It was a total bitchy move, there is nothing more to it.

>Ignorance doesn't excuse you from repercussions for your actions. How was Ueno supposed to know he was a unsocialized moron?
I wasn´t expecting her to explain everything in a very detailed way but she could had told him " It wasn´t for you. Fuck off."
She even took the job of making Broccoli feel like shit in the process. It was a completely bitch act.

>>102262464
I can give you that. She probably had some bad experience with guys. Considering the kind of guys he goes out with, it wouldn´t be rare.
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>>102262252
>Nice way to avoid giving a proper answer
How so?
She intercommunicated that it wasn't for him and he intercommunicated that the letter was for him and that he understood, even though she said nothing.

Again, miscommunications with miscommunication. There's nothing more to it than both parties are at wrong.
I just see that Broccolibro forced it upon her and you later see that he planned to do it to see how Ueno would react.
Then he acted all snugged about it towards Ishida to warn him about it him even though he was the one who forced himself on her by being creepy.

And I don't mean he had experience with women but that he purposefully did this romeo bullshit in order to test Uedo and see how she would react.
He knew damn well to whom the letter was meant to and that it didn't belong to him.

>>102262464
Or she doesn't like fatasses whom she's never met to be all romantic and shit on her.
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>>102262599
Miscommunicationed* not intercommunicated.

I need sleep.
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>>102262464
Maybe she has standards?
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>>102262599
>and you later see that he planned to do it to see how Ueno would react.

some people seriously believe that?
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>>102262591
>He knew damn well to whom the letter was meant to and that it didn't belong to him.
This is bullshit. He recieved the letter and thought it was for him. As I said, it was probably the first time a girl expressed romantic feeling towards him and he overreacted.
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>>102262599
>he purposefully did this romeo bullshit in order to test Uedo and see how she would react.
>He knew damn well to whom the letter was meant to and that it didn't belong to him.

I'm pretty sure that's not at all what happened. He says that it was a test later on to try to save face. Read the beginning of the chapter, he was excited as fuck that he thought the letter was for him. He's not that conniving, he's just an idiot.
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I'm really curious to see how Shimada has changed and how/if hes going to try to reconcile with Ishida. I mean, in the second year of Middle school, he was still being a dick to Ishida.

>>102260999
It's in the thread.
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>shimada's sad face when Ishida huffed away

Maybe he's not that bad of a guy now?
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>>102262599
>>102262736

It's a pretty disproportionate response, and she had no visible problem around Bro-colli when she met him for the second time the previous chapter. He touches her and she snaps.

Five bucks Shouko touched her (not lewd) on the ferry-wheel and she overreacted.
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>>102263079
We already guessed that he was like that because Ishida didn´t payed for the food
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>>102263148
*paid
I need a nap
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>>102262928
I know, just found it in the archives.
I don't think Ueno is that bad, she really cares for Ishida, it's just her one sided view of "It's all Nishiyima's fault" that makes me want her to get healed.
And fat bastard friend applauding at Ishida's suicide comment was just to cringe inducing.
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>>102263261
Ishida can´t into cheerful conversartions.
I think there wasn´t a better way to fuck the atmosphere.
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>>102263114
Shit, you might be right.

>Ishida finds out that Uedo slapped for basically no reason
>we learn she's very clingy about not being touched
>Shouko tried to hold hands since she's afraid of heights
>Uedo tries to tell not to hold hands but can't since she can't speak sign languages
>slap occurs
>no one knows really what happened
MISUNDERSTANDING!
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>>102263148
Maybe, but that seems kinda arbitrary. It seems like he wanted to talk to him since he basically told Ueno to go mind her own business when she walked up (or at least that's what I got from based Thai's translation)
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>>102263344
ueno hates being touched because she was raped by a pack of delinquents
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>>102263586
So can I call her Guts?
Or maybe that girl from Bitter Virgin?
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>>102263586
She goes out with delinquents. You can see two of them apear after Ishida and Brocooli leave.
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any weebs here know how 手語 is supposed to be pronounced?
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>>102264345
Shuuwa.
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ALL WILL BE REVEALED WHEN THEY FIND OUT THAT YUZURU LEFT THE CAMERA RECORDING
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Don't judge by appearance.
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>>102264366
thx
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>>102264512
I can spot a cum-lovig whore when I see one.
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This is a smile worth protecting.
I'm not reading the thread because spoilers.
>>>/i/414353
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>>102266156
Always knew she was a slut.
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>>102266156
>like
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>>102264462
Wasn't she also recording when Ueno went off on Bro-coli?

I really hope this comes back and kicks her ass
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>Chapter 26 is out

Anyone got a link? It's not where I usually check for chapters.
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Threadly reminder that Ueno is a goddess and also best girl and is Ishida's future waifu
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>>102266547
If you don't read on batoto or download straight from the source, you're a faggot.
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>>102266547
Read the thread you leech.
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>>102266604

I read both from batoto and download the Futari wa pretty scans but I never knew where the shitty fast scans come from.

Help a brother out, man.
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>>102266779
>wanting the shitty fast scans
You deserve death, not help.
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>>102266779
A Thaibro upload them here from China with an approximative translation
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I was beginning to see Ueno's rationale until she supposedly slapped Nishimiya
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ueno has her reasons. she's been proven to be the only good person in this entire series so far so she certainly has everyone's best in mind.



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