Born of the Boobs(?): Everything is shit edition.
Literally the worst set.
Still not as baller as this guy.
LCIE anime when?
So is anyone trying to get into modern? The prices just keep rising, it's retarded.
>The prices just keep rising
Good thing I bought most modern staples before the big jump in prices. I suggest biting the bullet and buying the cards you need as soon as you can, since the prices are only going to go up
are you only in this thread to show off your cards? because you're really not showing off much
No, these are:
>literally paying for these
My team's modern gauntlet is pretty respectable, we've put together 7 of the best performing decks from the last few years with 2 more in the works, and we travel locally for Trials and win-a-box type events as often as possible. Too bad we probably can't make it out to Richmond next month.
was the alteration done by the artist? Either way, I'm not a fan of Argyle's works. DRS looks like shit
Yeah, he did this abomination too.
Nice. I was at CFB's GPT today. Lost in the first round of top 8 against America.
Wow. I'd be too ashamed to even put my name on that.
What list were you playing? I had a similar experience yesterday with Melira Pod.
4 Snapcaster Mage
3 Vendilion Clique
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Mana Leak
4 Serum Visions
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Breeding Pool
2 Steam Vents
2 Spell Pierce
3 Cryptic Command
1 Stomping Ground
2 Spell Snare
2 Burst Lightning
4 Delver of Secrets
2 Huntmaster of the Fells
SB: 2 Combust
SB: 1 Huntmaster of the Fells
SB: 2 Spellskite
SB: 3 Blood Moon
SB: 2 Relic of Progenitus
SB: 2 Surgical Extraction
SB: 1 Shatterstorm
SB: 2 Firespout
I was talking about changing the pyroclasms in our RG Tron list to Firespout with the reappearance of nacatl zoo, except its painfully bad against blood moon affinity and splinter twin.
Does Burst Lightning do a specific job in the deck or could it be flexible for another spell, say Tarfire to fuel your Tarmogoyfs or Incinerate for stuff like Vengevine?
I have most of the staples for modern but it really is just a poor mans legacy.
I'm not sure I agree with that, Modern is mostly played with cards on the battlefield and Legacy is played very much by cards in player's hands. I enjoy both formats and they seem very different to me.
I believe opting for Firespout is correct. A Tron list I lost to today ran Firespout in the main and Pyroclasm in the side. Blood Moon shouldn't be too problematic, just Sowing Salt. The deck is still a ramp deck and can easily cast Oblivion Stone or Karn to remove it.
I just like Burst Lightning because it's a 1 drop. The kicker is also not completely irrelevant, I've finished off people with that 2 extra damage and killed Colonnades before. The tribal from Tarfire isn't really worth it cause you won't always have a goyf plus if fuels opposing goyfs as well. If the opponent resolves a goyf, it will be quite difficult to remove with that extra toughness considering my removal is only burn. And I've never considered Incinerate but I've seen people use Pillar of Flame over Burst Lightning.
Well that is true, primarily because the banlist forces modern into that sort of play style. I sort of view Modern as what Wizards wants magic to be, and Legacy as what Magic is at its core.
Pillar is probably better because your deck is supposed to be all 1CMC spells to begin with, I like the ability to exile cards like Gravecrawler or the Persist creatures in Pod decks, I'd imagine exiling an infinite combo piece is more relevant than the odd time when you spend 5 mana to kill a celestial colonade and control cant counter it but I haven't played much delver in Modern.
The reason for that is because MaRo's job description is to produce a game that is the most fun for the most number of players, which means that new cards will appeal to the vast amount of inexperienced players who can't understand the nuance of losing to cards they can't see on the battlefield for a full turn cycle as opposed to figuring out how to play around an opponent's hidden information. New players' first experience seeing a legacy deck function usually results in them believing its an unfair all luck format which they aren't interested in, so we see new cards, sets, and banlists enforce gameplay that new players can understand simply by looking at the battlefield.
Don't you have a kancolle/recommendation/shitposting thread to moderate?
Despite tilting more towards control compared to the original, it usually works if I just play the tempo game against pod. Just disrupt their infinite combo while racing them with beaters.
Also, I'm not a janitor or anything, but its somehow flattering that you think so...
Ah, and I forgot to mention that my meta is filled with America players.
I actually really like that one, I'd trade for it at a non-graffiti'd Liliana value.
Shame he got lazy for his later alters.
>pandering to casuals
Shit, even wotc isn't safe.
They're in business to make money, after all. Not much to be done about it.
Even so, making Modern a banlist-moderated format that strives to ensure that the only interaction is creature bashing is severely crippling the variety and enjoyment levels of it. Banning decks like Storm and Eggs outright instead of creating new lines of play to combat the combo is steadily turning Modern into a boring one-track format akin to Standard.
I agree with parts of that and disagree with others.
I do think there are other ways of moderating nonrotating formats other than through its banlist, a prime example being the implementation of Abrupt Decay to combat the dominance of Counterbalance in Legacy. I do think that Storm is a deck wizards should continue to support rather than hinder in Modern, but its a very subtle balance between that deck being unplayable, viable, or broken so its simply a challenge to find the right mixture.
I do not think that Modern's enjoyment level has been crippled at any point in time, and I think by making more careful decisions wizards can maintain a format where a multitude of different decks are viable and fun both to play with and play against. I do think that Eggs was a problem deck after the top 8 of a Pro Tour turned into a showcase of one player taking 95% of the game actions before either announcing to his opponent that he'd killed them, or killed himself. I sperg out over math just as much as the next autist but even I can take a look from an outside perspective and realize that magic needs to be more than a 1-player game.
I don't think Modern will ever resemble standard if the current trending of cards continues, simply because a nonrotating format will always have new cards interacting with old cards in a way that simply cant be done in a format where only the most recent ~1000 cards are available.
But that's all just like, my opinion man.
>tfw excited for journey into nyx
enemy gods pls be good
Born of the Gods was so mediocre I have no motivation at all to go to locals for draft.
I just want Keranos and my scry land.
Absolutely terrible set. And I primarily play Standard.
I've broken out some of my modern decks since the release because this is literally the worst set years.
No fun utility, no fun card interactions, and generally weak spells over-all.
I have the same feeling. No card in the entire set is fun to play with, and the only thing that may potentially hold some value is Brimaz.
it's probably going to be shit just like how izzet was back in rtr.
I want to believe ;_;
>not digging the goyf
Kiora is apparently a thing as well too.
Why is Yawgmoth's Will so hard to obtain? All I see in binders is Bargains everywhere.
>not "Liliana of the Veiler Mars"
yes I know that would make it illegal for tournament play shut up
Well, at least it's not Homelands.
It has a nonzero amount to do with each cards ban status in EDH.
I feel like these threads are the same 6 people every other night, stopping in to chat with each other.
Anyways, I'm trying to figure out what comes in to Dredgevine with DRS banned. He did way too much, and it's proving troublesome. Maybe it's time to go back to blue instead of red.
Yawggy's Will is a crazy card with at a playable CMC that reads "Your graveyard is also your hand until EoT". It put in cubes and EDH decks very readily.
Who's the girl in the frame? Oona?
Bloodbraid elf. It's a little joke on jund getting it's utility banned (boo hoo.)
>run an Izzet deck at my local FNM
>shoved in Steam Augeries as my only Theros card
>mfw shitting on nerds n going 4-0
Didn't lose a single game that night
I always thought steam augury is good. Sure it isnt fact or ficition, but it doesnt have to be to generate a lot of card advantage.
>winning with cheese and being proud of it
Yeah man four of no doubt
People just couldn't deal with my card engine at that point, it's the best thing Blue/Red has seen in a long time
It is a good card, its mostly been overshadowed by Jace, Architect of Thought for a blue 4cmc utility/card advantage slot. We might see a bit more steam augurs after Ravnica 2 block rotates out of standard.
It depends on whether your opponents are smart enough to know what your outs are so that they can deny you that pile. Having opponents pick your cards for you is always risky business.
The general "reverse fact or fiction" feel of it is something I like, I know letting your opponent choose is risky but it leaves a lot of potential to mindgame people.
If only it were printed as an Izzet card back in RTR block. Of course, it would be insane with snapcasters in Standard at the time. ;_;
Christ, the art for mtg is getting worse with each set.
>mfw this art is literally 3DCG
>yfw keranos has coin flips
>At the beginning of your upkeep, flip 3 coins. If you win 1 flip, Keranos deals 2 damage to each player. If you win 2 flips, draw a card. If you win 3 flips, take an extra turn after this one.
>3UR God for 4/4
As someone who just started MTG with sealed events like drafts, I'd like to move on to Constructed. I've heard bad things about the current state of Standard, and arguments about the high cost of Modern and Legacy. What format would you guys recommend I start off with?
Standard, there are plenty of cheap-ish decks you can build to be competitive at your local FNM, provided you're willing to play more tempo/aggro style as opposed to full on control or combo decks.
10/10 would mainboard
I proxy any top tier decks to play with my group, personally to save money and still get to enjoy the interactions. But not everyone has that option (lack of play group, adverse people shouting "you didn't drop money on cardboard like me!", etc.)
The financial commitment to get deep in every format is pretty high, but you can try budget decks or funky homebrews in Standard successfully, if you're good. Plus there's more people to play with and learn from.
Thanks for the advice guys. I'm probably going to go with a Red-Black aggro build with the cards I have from RTR block and Theros drafts. Are shocklands worth investing into? I heard they are staples in Modern and Legacy(?)
Well they're not exactly going to lose value now since they just dropped with Ravnica being on it's way out.
They interact great with a lot of modern, legacy and commander mechanics as well as giving you great speed in any deck.
Well worth the investment imo
One of the simple rules of "investing" in magic is that real estate is always good. Or rather, playable lands. They just increase in value until reprinted, and are very liquid in trade-ability.
Thanks again. One final question: What's a good way to test decks if you don't have any friends who play MTG outside of your LGS?
You can go down the real money hole of no return and try out magic online, MTGO. It's officially supported by wizards, and unofficially hated by many, but it gets the job done.
Or you can download Cockatrice, the mostly popular, free way to test your deck against people, though it's not user-friendly, because it's not "programmed" for magic. And there's alternatives like Untap.in for browser-based, or OCTGN.
Also gives you a taste of the MTG community, and boy will you love the taste of dogshit.
>One of the simple rules of "investing" in magic is that real estate is always good.
Does this also hold true for Zendikar, Unglued, and Unhinged basics?
Le epic incest face.
I figure it holds true for those as well. They haven't seen the price jump that modern/legacy staples have seen recently, because they're just for pimping out your deck. But they haven't gone down, and they'll never reprint those same arts again.
WotC reserves full-art lands for special sets/occasions on purpose.