Why is the yandere archetype so vastly underutilized in anime recently? I see garbage-esque tsundere characters in virtually every show being put out recently, but very few yandere girls.
Also, why is Yukiteru such a little pussy about Yuno having bodies in her house?
because yandere a shit
>Not recognizing yandere is the best type of anime girl
>wanting archetype at all instead of characters with personality
The same reason he's so opposed to hurting people.
>Muh morals. Muh innocence. I just want friends.
At least he became less of a little bitch in the back half.
>she wants your dick
>also she's crazy
What's the appeal? Maybe if you pushed it to the extreme and made some sort of parody of the harem genre.
Alright, that's fair
But they're still so much less common than the other shitty archetype characters that it's almost refreshing to see because it's so different
I haven't finished it yet, but that's good. It seems like that's the ideal situation considering he's gotta play that game. A crazy, hot, lunatic who's in love with you and is willing to kill people for your sake? Sign me up.
Yanderes are pure trash and are only for fucked up people anyways.
I'm not really sure, but for some reason it's really appealing to me
Tsundere > Kuudere > Dandere > Yandere
Because as an anonymous anime forum contributor, I'm sure you're the pinnacle of mental stability yourself
Yandere > Dandere > Kuudere > Tsundere*
I'm broken and have a couple of psychological issues. But I'm sane and stable enough to know that murderous intent and acts crosses the line. Yanderes are dangerous and are so high maintenance and troublesome that it would feel as if I'm living a life that will always have to compromise and watch my every step.
dandere a best
There's really nothing appealing to you about the idea of a girl who is literally willing to commit homicide to secure your love and happiness?
What dere is a well adjusted female?
crazy girls are crazy in the sack
not much more to it
It's miles above tsundere, that's for shit sure
Not if the victim is me, no.
Kuudere. Dandere too.
Not that I don't love tsundere, but that's so wrong. The first half of tsundere is tsun, and that isn't what you'd call well adjusted.
I STILL don't understand the difference between kuudere and dandere
kuudere = quiet but talkative to their love interest/person of importance
but dandere is also that?
kuudere = senjougahara
dandere = rei
I guess it says something about me that when I think of being with a yandere girl it immediately involves me using her lunacy to get ahead in life *kill people I loathe, etc*
No, I'd find that pretty sickening, especially if said girl killed my loved ones or my friends just because she felt insecure and threatened.
>haven't heard of Dandere before
>look it up
>my fucking dick
I have a STRONG NEED for dandere anime.
>especially if said girl killed my loved ones or my friends just because she felt insecure and threatened.
This, this right here. Your average chick already usually has self-esteem issues and is needy as fuck, why the hell would you want someone who takes that baggage to the next level and is actually willing to kill or torture people?
This is why Yangire remains the best.
Retains the bloodlust, without her cutting off your dick or reading everything you do on a computer.
Kamidere > Dorodere = Tsunshun ≥ Tsundere > Kuudere > Darudere > Ojoudere > Dandere = Tsundora > Teredere = Bokukkodere > Kiredere > Yandere > Bakadere > Goudere > Yangire > Hajidere
Because it's more difficult to implement in a story.
Also, if you used it too often, it would become just as garbage as generic tsundere characters.
What dere archetype isn't garbage for you?
Okay I guess I should specify that as someone who, general consensus will tell you, is regarded as a manipulative piece of human filth, I find the idea of having someone who A: doesn't hate and resent me for these qualities and B: I can use to basically do my bidding very appealing
That's actually a really good point
I didn't think about that
Ones that aren't overused. There's so few yandere characters that I haven't really got sick of them yet. As soon as I see a tsundere, however, I immediately lose all interest in that character. Because I've just seen it so often that I already feel like I've seen this character and there's no room for anything original with the archetype.
Because real yandere characters fuck shit up and it results in a serious show, while most of the shows that use archetypes are harems and comedies which wouldn't mix well with yandere.
"Do my bidding" makes me sound like a little edgemaster bitch
Basically someone I can use to do and say shit I wouldn't have the balls to do because I'm a socially inept pansy recluse bitch
So dandere, kuudere, genki, yamato nadeshiko, childhood friend, etc are out, huh?
Man, I hate to be you who can't enjoy nice things anymore because of a popularity issue.
What are half of these fucking archetypes even?
Who said anything about popularity? Projecting quite a bit here. Overused does not equal popular and underused does not equal unpopular. Yandere is quite popular, from what I understand, but it's certainly not overused.
I never said I hated them, but after you've seen a certain trope or archetype almost 100 times, it becomes much more difficult to enjoy or become invested in it. Unless you have the memory of a goldfish.
>Implying anybody currently in the industry understands 'real' girls
Fuck off Miyazaki, fiction is not meant to be realistic
>implying he's anything but a bitter old man
No, but it should be 'based' on realism for the sake of balance.
That's just your opinion.
If I wanted realistic characters, I wouldn't be watching fiction to begin with. I'd go outside.
>implying reality is realistic
>reality can't even do realistic right
Why is reality so shit?
On the other end of that, there are people who don't go outside or interact with people enough to experience reality very much
So I think both of your arguments are pretty fair
watch attack on moe It's a great animu
But if they don't experience enough to know what realistic characters are like, why would they even care about or want realistic characters at all?
It's not absolute, but there's a correlation between popularity and use. A popular archetype will used more than a less popular or even obscure archetype due to demand or author/artist fascination. They're everywhere because they're popular. It's a simple reason.
Yandere is quite popular in the manga, LN, and VN circle, not so much in anime. What if you read/play a lot of those series that had them. Your opinion of them would change because you can't enjoy them as much anymore.
I don't think there are very many people who don't know what realistic characters are
I just meant that they interact with people so infrequently, that watching something that deals more in reality than fiction can be nice too
>That's just your opinion.
No, really it's a pretty basic rule of design to have a reference.
>*Guy accidentally falls onto girl and rips all her clothes and underwear off*
>Girl pummels him with sinks
>She later falls in love with him for taking a shit and he spends the next 50 episodes being autistic about it
>Tsundere girl spends series beating on guy BECAUSE SHE ISN'T HONEST WITH HERSELF
This shit happens because the writer doesn't know what courtship actually looks like.
Kamidere=Omnipotent girls such as Haruhi.
Tsunshun=Tsunderes who are aware of their own behavior and feel depressed about it.
Bokukkodere=Characters who call themselves "boku", generally tomboys, but also Ayu and Rika.
Hajidere=Shy girls who tend to stutter and blush a lot, and grow more confident over time.
That's true to an extent, but like I said, yandere is pretty popular, but isn't as overused. Mostly due to the reasons I stated. It just doesn't fit into the average SoL highschool setting so easily and is harder to implement in a story without breaking it. Other dere archetypes are similarly popular, but are much more prevalent because they don't suffer from such limitations in general.
I've seen quite a few more yandere in those mediums, yes, but still not on par with the others. I'm still not sick of them yet, but if it does become something you find in every second manga, I will probably find it difficult to enjoy them because I can't shake the feeling I've seen this character before as well. But for now, I enjoy them because they're not as overused.
Yandere not being as used compared to others is a blessing for me. So far.
Of course, original characters that don't fit any archetype would be better, but that's not something you find in anime or manga very often.
>His girlfriend never beat him with a sink
>>Tsundere girl spends series beating on guy BECAUSE SHE ISN'T HONEST WITH HERSELF
That actually happens though. It's a bit exaggerated in anime, but the basic concept of hostility towards someone because yuou dont' understand your feelings towards them does happen. Although, by the time a person is in high school, it shouldn't so yeah. But ti's not entirely without basis.
it's just so fucking booooooooring
That's like saying it's realistic to crash a monster truck through a petting zoo because people run over roadkill on the freeway.
It's exaggerated to the point it barely resembles the original action.
>>Muh morals. Muh innocence. I just want friends.
>At least he became less of a little bitch in the back half.
I don't get it. Wouldn't /a/ consider him edgy later on for being not a fag any more but yet here we are /a/ praising him not being a moralfag.
I think the problem is more when every single anime does it the exact same way to the point where it's extremely obvious they're just based on other animes and not on anything in real life.
I don't care which one is more realistic. The former is more enjoyable to watch.
Again, it's just an opinion that works of fiction have to be based on actual courtship is just your personal opinion. There exists no set rule where fictional mediums should be based on realistic characters. No, no matter how much high literary snobs try to pretentiously preach otherwise.
Although to be fair, I find both boring to watch. But I don't enjoy tsundere at all.
If I wanted the realistic version, I would just go talk to people. I don't, because I find it boring. The beauty of fiction to many is a haven where you can find something that is NOT realistic. I can already find the realistic version outside of it. Why would I want to also see it in my fiction. That's how I view it.
Yandere is hot
who wouldn't want an overly obsessive and BEAUTIFUL girl?
I just want more yandere guys.
I quite like my solitude. Other people are exhausting.
Exactly. It's a copy of a copy of a copy - an biologist could point out the flaw in that system right away.
Really, modern anime is in a tailspin for the same reason that the Vulgate differed from the original Greek bible: lack of fidelity.
Whether a Renaissance can happen remains to be seen, but I'm sadly cynical on that point.
They usually end up being more like an actual rapist. Like could you imagine a male Yuno?
It just doesn't work. Same reason females can be groupies, while male groupies are just stalkers.
Don't stick your dick in crazy.
Because /a/ hates everything, didn't you get the memo?
I don't follow your reasoning here, I don't think anyone denies that female yanderes aren't stalkers too
They aren't stalkers, it's AI YO!
>wanting your characters to be reduced to a stereotype
>we can't have dynamic characters
You aren't serious right?
I wasn't saying that I wanted there to be some shitty yandere clone in every single anime produced from here on out, but if we're resorting to bullshit archetypes, why is one that, at least I find to be a good one, used so infrequently? That's all I was asking
I'd stick my dick in a jar of bees if it looked like this and would kill people I hated for me
Yandere is a broken archetype that desperately needs to be fixed.
Not all yanderes need to be violent bitches like Yuno and I wish people would fucking see that.
JESUS CHRIST WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT
13-24, this is yandere
this is my favorite yandere h-manga
incestuous yandere imouto is best yandere
Is it just me or do all yanderes tilt their head the same way?
>>Sakaki's strong legs tightly clenched around me, making sure that I ejaculated all my sperm inside her. It feels as if she's a large spider lady who caught a male spider who then proceeds to eat the male spider after she's done mating
>>Refusal to release the cock
I've discovered my new fetish. Thanks anon.
Wasnt there a yandere in So Long Mr Despair? Or was that for comedic purposes
So no your modern pi-polar Tsun