Is this supposed to be "good"? It's like I'm watching a try-hard madoka clone. It's almost satirical. I'm almost offended they think so lowly of the average anime viewer. They shamelessly pack in every cliche and trope you think of, and on top of that they add unnecessary fan service. Fourth episode in and its really getting to me.
What's up with the sound design, too? The VA's voice doesn't sound like they're in the room/environment they're talking in. This kill the immersion.
3/10 so far, does it get any better?
The Idol episode was one of the best episodes of a show in 2013. The rest of the series was mediocre but pretty cute.
It's nothing like Madoka you autist
KnK isn't even very good but you really are a retard, OP.
It gets worse as it progresses
>does it get any better?
No, drop it.
Also fuck off.
The only way it is in any way similar to Madoka is that there are female characters.
b-but the main character has pink hair and um...uh...
i disagree, i think it at least storywise it was really good because of what was happening and tweeests until the last episode.
fuck that episode.
Tumblr loves it
I couldn't like the main couple, what with their point chit-chat in intense situation and how the show give of an important plot point near the end but doesn't give it at the end of the show.
Also some of the fight where pretty but not interesting
I didn't like it either. Watched 5 episodes and dropped it.
I don't know what it's "supposed" to be, but it actually is good. You may have shit taste if you think otherwise, or haven't seen enough anime to realize this show is quite above average. More likely it's one of the troll threads which became a staple on /a/ due to retards who were unable to follow the show or pretended to be.
Since it's most likely the latter, I bid you farewell, goodbye, goodnight.
It's a deconstruction of different high school, supernatural, shonen-y tradedy shows. It's also meant to undermine and turn around moe obsessed otaku culture. If you're viewing it at an entirely surface level, I guess it would seem bad, but if you have some discerment and can watch it as more than some kind of drooling idiot, then it's basically the Evangelion for the genres it's deconstructing.
>Is this supposed to be "good"?
It's decent. One of the better shows of the season. Hardly a masterpiece though.
>I'm almost offended they think so lowly of the average anime viewer.
>shamelessly pack in every cliche and trope you think of
>unnecessary fan service.
The hell is this bullshit?
Am I in a troll thread?
>try-hard madoka clone
It is if you've only seen like ten other anime.
There's so much wrong with your post, I don't even know where to start. If this isn't bait, you're legitimately retarded. No wonder this show angers and confuses you.
>mfw even a weak KyoAni show like Kyoukai no Kanata was still superior to anything airing that season
Are we still fucking on this? Jesus Christ you guys are persistent. Sorry it started airing at the same time as muh klk. Faggot.
Did you really see no cliches or fanservice?
Yozakura Quartet is better.
KnK was really bad, but calling it a Madoka clone is just incorrect.
Way to miss the point.
Both of them had horrible stopping points. Yozakura was worse in that regard, and only that regard.
>They make a show chock full of the exact shit Chuunibyou mocks
I don't get it.
But it was pretty cliche heavy and did have unnecessary fanservice. I agree with the rest of the post easily.
There wasn't enough deep darkness for you to say that, but it was close.
If what you're referring to is the seemingly high production cost for such an average story, worry not. Half of the animation is just haruhi recolours.
Who the fuck told you it was good?
I can list several that were vastly superior to that pile of shit
The Nase family is hot as fuck
Just wait until she reveals her final form with scales, and worms popping out of her face.
I'm starting to think I should add this word to my filter list alongside "plot"
I only agree that it's unnecessary because KnK wasn't a fanservice oriented show. It just felt out of place since it was never a focus. This what OVAs are for, not the main show unless you're going to be dedicated to it.
I can't related to that segregated way of thinking.
Service shots are always welcome, like a good soundtrack, they complement the show and increase its enjoyability.
Go watch ufotable's KnK instead.
KnK was a pretty good show. Most of the criticism is actually made up, the real reasons lie in oversensitive scrutiny due to overblown expectations or simply the desire to bash the show due to stupid reasons like incited studio wars (Monogatari Killer), previous disappointments (gay Free! instead of FMP or Haruhi!, backstabbing loyal fans!) or outright trolling.
No it wasn't. The characters were appallingly one-dimensional, even for kyoani. The story was cliche at best and retarded and nonsensical at worst.
Kenn needs to never be a VA ever again.
>does a kyoani show get better
that shit studio is good only for making things look pretty.
chuuni is till my guilty pleasure though
Listening to how bad his yelling sounded next to Mirai's, I looked him up thinking he was some noob, but he's been acting for 10 years. I guess some people never improve, like Ootsubo Yuka.
>Everybody is dislikes this has to fit into these groups of people.
No, fuck you.
The characters were fine, especially Mirai. The story might not be the freshest, but it was a nice variety to the usual KyoAni shows and it was well executed. It was never "retarded" or "nonsensical". If you feel so, I recommend watching more shows, so you get a feeling of what to expect from an average anime show. But then again, you're probably just out to kill some time with retarded arguments like so many times before. KnK really brought out the people on /a/ that have the least abilities to judge a show (or the most trolls - I still prefer to think that way, as it leaves some hope the retards were only pretending).
Exactly, KnK is more about the bonds between the characters than the about what the plot leads you to believe is the 'climax'. Mirai's and Akihito's relationship as monsters that pity themselves and each other went unnoticed for many people, and I think that's why it gets so much flak.
>It was never "retarded" or "nonsensical". If you feel so, I recommend watching more shows, so you get a feeling of what to expect from an average anime show.
Essentially telling him to lower his standards here. This in and of itself is stupid, especially when you follow up with saying that people don't know how to properly judge a show.
This. Why do people still reply to those threads? Why do people still make these threads?
>a try-hard madoka clone
It can't get more obvious than that, people.
Replace Madoka with just any chuuni LN out there and you have a perfectly reasonable post.
On the VAs, they sure felt weird. Like they weren't invested, just read the lines aloud and that was it. Well, if I had to act that shit dialogue I wouldn't really want to put my heart into it either, come to think of it.
>If you feel so, I recommend watching more shows, so you get a feeling of what to expect from an average anime show
Are you shitting me? Are you seriously telling me that KnK wasn't retarded or nonsensical because my standards for anime aren't low enough? If an anime is retarded then it's retarded, it doesn't matter that there's a lot of other anime out there that's even more retarded.
How was it well executed? There was shit like Mirai died and then she stopped being dead because.
Mirai was pretty good. Actually most of the female characters were decent, but Akihito and Hiroomi were so appalling they sort of tainted the other characters by association.
I really wanted to like KnK, I feel like it had a lot of potential, and it looked great, but it just felt a bunch of ideas that didn't really mesh well sort of haphazardly tossed together.
No, if you never watch anime and instead read serious literature (preferably non-fiction), you will watch your first magical girl show and will immediately dismiss it as "nonsensical" and "retarded". Same with teens piloting giant robots. Considering a show in its medial context is not lowering the standards, it's applying the correct standards for that medium.
>more about the bonds between the characters than the about what the plot leads you to believe is the 'climax'.
Personally I didn't really like the way this was executed. The characters are properly bonding and then it suddenly goes all "now you need to save the world". To me it felt like the scale was treated as if teenage bonding and saving the world was on the same level. A bit of proper escalation would have been nice.
>Mirai's and Akihito's relationship as monsters that pity themselves and each other went unnoticed for many people, and I think that's why it gets so much flak.
It was a focal point of their bonding. There's no way a mass of people missed it, I don't think you're special for noticing it. More flak comes from the fact that when the overarching plot was actually introduced the villains had a horrible plan.
I think I'm done with you retard(s), since
>There was shit like Mirai died and then she stopped being dead because.
goes along the way of a gazillion "why she stab him lol??!" threads. Go watch KlK or some other show where some character is considerate enough to shout out loudly what is happening on the screen, so nobody gets lost when having to apply actual thought.
In that case, I'll definitely agree with you, however, I think telling him to watch more shows is bad advice for this situation. KnK does what most other shows of the same type does, with little variations here in there. If anything watching more would make him appreciate it less.
And to be fair, while it wasn't fully "nonsensical" or "retarded", it did have moments the were, regardless of the genre, like breaking through a dimension by hooking up a magic spear to a car battery.
Not that anon, but tell us: under which reasoning could Mirai constantly stab Akihito and not the other monsters she fought? If she had PTSD or whatever after killing that girl, shouldn't she feel worse about stabbing someone who looks human, instead of those things?
And no, don't come back with the "she had a mission" bullshit, she also needed to kill those monsters for a living and yet she didn't have the same determination.
There are a bunch of things that didn't make any sense. For example, the evil guy detailing his plan to himself for no fucking reason other than the writers being too incompetent to explain it otherwise, that was fucking retarded. At least kid shows have the evil guy gloating about his plans to the heroes or some minions or something like that.
>they shouldn't do that retarded thing they should do this retarded thing
>there will never be another show with cute girls that is also enthralling, at least compared to the rest of the anime medium
i miss madoka.
But KnK isn't a kids show.
Izumi was forcing her to try to kill Akihito, but she didn't want to because: first, she didn't like killing and was traumatized from when she killed Yui; second, Izumi convinced her that he was just a Youmu, she then started relating with him and realizing he's a normal person and that he has his own issues too..
Did you quote the wrong person? I was just pointing out that all villains revealing their plan things are equally retarded regardless of who the audience of the explanation in the series is.
>she also needed to kill those monsters for a living and yet she didn't have the same determination.
There are other ways of getting money. There aren't other ways of getting Izumi to fuck off.
> the evil guy detailing his plan to himself for no fucking reason other than the writers being too incompetent to explain it otherwise
You're right, they should have gave him a butler he can vent to.
Mirai's resurrection was definitely poorly handled. The reason for her death was that she didn't have a body to return to. While it would have made perfect sense for Akihito to resurrect her spirit in the other world, creating an actual body should have been fairly impossible.
Building off of what you said, I find it believable enough that she could stab Akihito. She was pressured from above, and that would be a more forceful motivation than going after monster just because she wanted money. And it was just stabbing. Not stabbing with the intent to kill.
What I do feel is actually inconsistent is why she would take the job to begin with. She was in no condition to want to and she certainly didn't feel inclined towards caring about needing money. She literally had such little reason to accept it would have made far more sense for her to walk away from the job.
>Why did she stab him it makes no sense lol
I expected nothing else than to go over that for the 12th million time, because some retard is too stupid to follow the show.
It's mindboggling. This CAN'T be anything else than trolling. It just can't. God, please.
Anon still has a point. One retarded thing is more retarded than the other retarded thing. You also have a point in calling it out on being retarded.
>creating an actual body should have been fairly impossible
not in this universe, since Youmu are stated to come to existance from strong emotions
Honestly, what would Izumi have done? She was incredibly patient with Mirai, and didn't ever "force" as much as she "tricked".
Izumi had a huge influence with the Spirit World Warrior Society or whatever, she was the one that prevented Mirai from being executed along the rest of her family in the first place. It wouldn't have been hard for her to report her as a threat and get her killed. Also Mirai thought she was returning a favor.
Collective strong emotions. Not one guy wanting a waifu. One guy with a teenage crush at that. Additionally she isn't a completely different entity. She has a proper shape and form. Things that are usually quite uncontrollable and unintentional in the Youmu creation process. It just seems a bit much to me.
>Also Mirai thought she was returning a favor
This is what I mean by tricking. Izumi may have the will to do bad things, but she never carries them out forcefully. Theoretically if Mirai just threw a hissy fit and said she didn't liked the job Izumi wouldn't have done a thing to her, besides try to convince her again, using psychology.
Remember that Akihito had Beyond the Boundary inside him, that and the thousands of youmu they killed. That would have been more enough energy to manifest a single youmu.
But Mirai didn't have the knowledge we or Izumi have. From Mirai's point of view, she either goes along with Izumi's plan or risk losing her protection, which would mean death.
>One guy with a teenage crush at that
his love was pure
Considering that Mirai's family was rumored to have youmu-blood anyway, it would make it even easier, I assume. For a tiny part, Mirai might have been part youmu already.
>Collective strong emotions. Not one guy wanting a waifu.
Don't underestimate someone who wants his waifu (see Yuji Sakai).
Manifesting a youmu has never been linked to power. Even if we disregard that there's the fact that youmu have so many bizarre shapes and features because the human mind is simply wild and uncontrollable as a whole. Controlling the shape of a youmu is like completely controlling your dreams from start to finish with being some mental wizard that has trained for it.
In retrospect, how much love did you feel for your first girlfriend or first girl you loved in general? Just compare that to the people you've met later in life.
>how much love did you feel for your first girlfriend or first girl you loved in general?
I don't think that will help your point. Remember this is /a/. The first girl he loved was probably his waifu
>From Mirai's point of view, she either goes along with Izumi's plan or risk losing her protection
It's hard to believe that she thought of it this seriously. If it weighed on her as life or death, she would have killed Akihito and regretted it later, like most humans. If anything I believe it leaned more towards her just being grateful, but I still believe she should realize what she is and isn't capable of. Kinda like realizing that paying back a world famous football player by filling in for him might be a bit over your head.
Even /a/ have anime girls that they've loved before they found their waifu. Look at all the Haruka and Misatofags.
>In retrospect, how much love did you feel for your first girlfriend or first girl you loved in general? Just compare that to the people you've met later in life.
The thing is that Mirai and Aki literally only have each other, which works fine because they are so similar.
I'm just saying that he doesn't have the experience, trial and error and all that, to have reached the point where he can look back and realize that he's finally found pure love. If some highschool girl I loved got hit by a truck I would cry. Cry enough to wish her back into existence? Probably not. If a girl I was married to for a number of years got hit by a truck I would cry. Enough to wish her back into existence? Possibly. At at that I would have to be in an extremely disheveled and insanely OBSESSED state to focus my thoughts to that degree.
It just isn't flying with me personally. Maybe I've watched too many sappy love anime.
If Kotaku said it, then I must be watching this wrong. I hope my ignorance is forgiven.
>Most of the criticism is actually made up
This is the most pretentious post I've seen all month.
Never post here again faggot.
Seen worse. He's not as bad as the guy who thought Code Geass had a bunch of intricacies and subtleties that only he saw, and that he was the only one that saw the show for its true worth.
But young passionate love has been the staple of the genre forever.
Did Romeo and Juliet know each other long enough to commit suicide over each others' death? Or what about Millennium Actress? She spends 10 minutes with the guy in a shed then spends the rest of her life chasing after him.
It still makes for a compelling romance, realistic or not.
Compelling, definitely. It's easy for an audience to get wrapped up in it for sure. And because of that it doesn't necessarily have to make sense, but because it doesn't add up to some people, it doesn't seem as sweet as it does to someone used to not necessarily better, but different takes on the romance genre that lie more true to life.
Having passion is fine, but having enough passion to focus into a physical manifestation doesn't fly. Passion isn't a strong feeling, it just makes you stop thinking about your actions when you do them. That's just my take.
Meh, it's true. It's not even pretentious, do you know what that word means?
Pretty much saying that almost everybody that criticizes your show is flinging around reasons that they themselves do not believe is extremely delusional. If they even were making up reasons, that's because they have a reason to dislike the show to begin with. It's pretty much rejecting all criticisms because you assume that the poster behind them has some evil intent instead of an honest opinion. To summarize, he's saying it's pretentious because the anon's putting his own opinion at a far higher value than anyone else's.