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ITT: Shounen that /a/ loves with all of their heart
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JJBA
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Busou Renkin.
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JoJo
Yu Yu hakusho
I want to love HxH with all my heart but Togashi won't let me, thank god I started yuyu when it was finished.
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>>102209911
The ones who read it.
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Magi
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>>102210400
I'm not 100% sure but I think Ares isn't a shounen.
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Beelzebub
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>>102210365
>Yu Yu hakusho
This with everything I have. The undisputed greatest battle shounen ever for ever.
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>>102209911
Many may argue about FMA and FMA brotherhood, but I'm pretty sure most people still hold the series in a special place within their hearts.
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>>102210583
Does Kubo cry knowing how much people worship his series?
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>>102210469
It's 8 years+ but I agree in a sense. It's (if I overstate it) "Lord of the Rings" kind of the story. For all ages but you will most likely savour it more if you are older and can appreaciate how it ignores many standard clich├ęs and such. It's truly great.
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>>102210703
It was an enjoyable read, I disliked how that one guy who was actually a noble prince became Itachi for some reason, but it's just one con in a sea of pro's if you get used to the artstyle.
Yet somehow I can't imagine Ares being targeted towards the shounen demographic.
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Yotsuba&
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>>102210865
We're talking about good shounens, not SoL moe stuff. Besides that's targeted towards the Seinen demographic anyways despite it's publication.
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>>102210414
The only thing /a/ loves about magi is Alibaba suffering
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I had such high hopes for bleach when it started.
Where did it all go wrong?
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>>102211564
Bleach didn't change
You did.
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>>102210365
>JoJo

Muh nigga.
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Fullmetal Alchemist (manga). It's not perfect by any means, but it's still pretty damn great.
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Would Gintama count?
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/thread
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>>102213374
No, that's shit aside from maybe 3 or 4 characters.
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>>102213441
Neo-/a/, everybody.
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>>102213468
>Neo-/a/
Fuck off to >>>/v/
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DBZ
Yu Yu
Outlaw Star
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>>102213501
>newfag gets angry when called out.
Please go back to r/anime, neo-/a/
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>>102213374
It's pretty bad.
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Gintama is a shonen.
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>>102213680
And it's gaia tier bad comedy.
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I rarely see dislike for Jojo or HxH

Appart from that I don't know
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does a/ really like HxH the artstyle looks so Saturday morningish
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One Piece.
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>>102213983
Yep, it's great.
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>>102213983
Compared to the manga, anything is better.
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>>102214061
/a/ is tsundere about Wan Piss
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yccl7XAnpUM

Best shounen.

The only real otp.

10/10 characters

10/10 fights

excellent conclusion
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>>102214218
>excellent conclusion
yeah right
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>>102214160
nope, /a/ Tsundere about Naturutoe, it's the One Piece fans the most vocal Natuto haters
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>>102214306
depends, we talking first series or Shitpoodamn?
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Muscleman
Doraemon
Digimon Tamers
Digimon Adventures
Eureka 7 (Ao was crap)
Shin-Chan maybe?
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>>102214261

Demon World run by a demon carrying on Raizens wishes

Yomi and Mukuro the two strongest demons in demon world reformed. Live for honor.

Yomi starts a journey to teach his son the real meaning of fighting and to find his own place in the world, he doesn't care about being a tyrant anymore.

Mukuro's hatred is settled. She's found her place in Hiei.

Yusuke reinvigorated 1500 year old demons to live again.
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>>102213680
I can agree with this along with Yuyu and Jojo.
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TTGL
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one punch man
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>>102214631
>shounen
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>>102214578
Nope.
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only a small group of shitposters hate naruto
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>>102214927
Not really
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naruto
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>>102214927

Yep, because most poeple do'nt care
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>>102215099
He's kinda right. Most people either don't give a shit, or are just really disappointed in how it turned out. Not a lot of people actually despise the series.

The fans are a completely different matter.
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Jojo
YYH
One Piece
Dragonball
Kenshin
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>>102214513
GOAT SHONENE RIGHT HERE
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>>102214927
It's not necessarily the show that's hated, it's the cancerous fanbase that provokes /a/ natural reaction.
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I picked up HxH last week and I have to admit you were right /a/.

Characters are very good, Killua doesn't suffer from Krillin syndrome and it is more about adventures (aside Ant arc).

Bt i have question.

Is this really a pure shounen in category?
Things get pretty brutal in HxH and in very Berserkish way (some shit Killua/Hisoka pulls,killing children or that scene with hat girl).
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>>102215848
Yes it is until they run it in a seinen manga or something
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>>102215848
>Is this really a pure shounen in category?
SWJ tries to direct HxH towards the shounen demographic, but togashi writes HxH as a shounen in the same way Anno wanted Evangelion to air during children cartoon daytime.
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>>102215848
Published as a shounen but it balances on seinen line.
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>>102215848
>>102215987
>>102216176
>killing children is somehow unique in shounen
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>>102216196
Most shounen will show the deaths offscreen or in a flashback though.
Togashi straight up shows you how an ant shoots Ponzu in the head multiple times.
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>>102209911
Pic unrelated?
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>>102216284
>Most shounen will show the deaths offscreen or in a flashback though.
Ironically Togashi didn't even draw the Troupe massacring Kurapica's clan in the special chapter and wrote a description.
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>>102216284
>Most shounen will show the deaths offscreen or in a flashback though.
What shonen are you talking about? Even DB and One Piece had onscreen deaths.
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>>102216284
>Togashi straight up shows you how an ant shoots Ponzu in the head multiple times.
That was in the anime, and the bad art in the manga is so hard to make out that it doesn't even matter.
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>>102216366
I think that's more laziness than censorship.
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>>102216284
>Most shounen will show the deaths offscreen
I'm starting to feel that HxH fags don't watch a lot of shounen
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Hunter x Hunter
TTGL
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>>102214513

Beat me to it.
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>>102216474
They don't
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>Hunter x Hunter
>shounen that /a/ loves
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>>102214927
only a small group of shitposters like naruto
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Pic absolutely related , TTGL , HxH.
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>>102216474
Hunter x Hunter is so much better than all the shonen shit out there.
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>>102215688

>cancerous fanbase

I always hear this but ive never seen it
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>>102214517
All of those are shit except dub shin chan.
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>>102214513
This.
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>>102215688
>Naruto taught me to become hokage
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>>102215688
>mfw someone posted that pic on kikebook a few months ago
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>>102209911
Dragon Ball
One Piece
Yu Yu Hakusho
Fullmetal Alchemist
Hunter x Hunter
Hokuto no Ken
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Hajime no Ippo
Rurouni Kenshin

And that's about it.

Nice dubs by the way.[/spoiler[
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>>102214477
The whole thing.

Original Naruto > Shitpoodick
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Im suprised that no ones said ot yet
inuyasha
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>>102214513
I saw an episode of Zatch Bell! on Cartoon Network once. I thought it was the worst thing ever.
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>>102211716
kuroko's > slamdunk
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>>102213761
Hoho, you really convinced everyone with your hot opinions.
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>>102224675
Probably because nobody here loves it with all their heart.
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Most of the series being mentioned in this thread are dog shit terrible.
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>God tier:
One Piece
Hunter x Hunter
Gintama
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

>High tier:
Magi
Assassination Classroom
The World God Only Knows
Hajime no Ippo (should be higher but it's not as good as it was)

>Okay tier:
Medaka Box
Silver Spoon
Beelzebub
Cage of Eden (setting up a stupid ending though)
Yamada-kun to 7-nin no Majo (I still can't forgive the author for Yankee kun to Megane-chan's ending, this wont end well)

>Meh tier:
Toriko
Shingeki no Kyojin (started good, not so much now)
History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi
Zettai Karen Children
Kochikame
Gamaran
Hayate no Gotoku!

>Low tier:
Sket Dance
Nisekoi
Kuroko no Basket
Fairy Tail

>Terrible tier:
Kimi no Iru Machi
Naruto
Bleach

Can we generally agree?
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>>102226017

Medaka Box to meh and you are ok
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>>102226017
Move everything under God tier to Terrible tier and the list is okay.
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>>102226017

I wanted gamaran to be so much better
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>>102226017
> No One Punch Man
>No Mob Psycho 100
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>>102226498
I would put OPM in God tier but I never read Mob Psychoo 100
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>>102217158
Well if you want to compare a smelly turd to a cuter but has smelly turd then I agree.

HXH has huge pacing and overexposing/overdramatisation/overexplaining issues (standard shonen issue).
The last episodes before 116 were all narrator explaning shit and animated smoke.

They even made one full episode about that one attack the old man did on catgirl
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>>102226944
>cat girl
>all narrator explaning shit and animated smoke.

Dear poster, if you read the manga.. You will understand, thank you.
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>>102226017
>God Tier.
Jojo
Air Master
>High
Ben-To
>Alright
HxH
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>>102227027
>read
I don't
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>>102226017
Dragon Ball should be in high tier or at the very least okay tier
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LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK BEYOND
YOU CAN MAKE AN UNBREAKABLE BOND
THE WORLD AROUND YOU'S, NOT WHAT IT SEEMS
SO REVEALED, BEYOND YOUR WILDEST.
SO MANY THINGS I NEVER COULD SEE
SO MANY CHOICES FALLEN ON ME
COULD IT BE MY DESTINY?
TO BE SHAMAN KING.

Yeah, shaman king goat theme.
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>>102209911
the only shonen I ever liked was Bleach and it went to shit after Aizen kicked the bucket
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>>102227096
That's why you don't understand, read the manga then come back.
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>>102227213
Bleach current arc is probably the best we've had, shockingly.
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>>102227120
Depends if your talking about the anime or manga.

Manga can be in high I guess its alright.
Anime is bad.
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>>102227036
Air Master is seinen
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>>102227289
The original Dragon Ball should be in High and DBZ should be in Terrible.
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>>102227454
There is no DBZ manga.
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>>102227429
Then why isn't Jojo?
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>>102227517
wrong.
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>>102227533
oh the power level thing. Ok its alright
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>>102210703
Publishing time has anything to do with it being shounen or not...
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>>102227572
The manga is still called Dragon Ball after the time skip. Z is Toei marketing
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>>102227533

Because it was published in WSJ
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>shounen = battle manga
>retarded HxH fans think /a/ likes it more than Yotsuba&
>retarded HxH fans in general
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>>102227830
oh Nisekoi is shonen too.

The more you know.
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>>102226017
you're missing a lot of series
>gash bell
>doubutsu no kuni
>yumekui merry
>eyeshield 21
>FMA
>bobobo-bo bo-bobo
>psyren
>nurarihyon no mago
>Mx0
>kongoh banchou
>nanatsu no taizai
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>>102227866
Battle manga would include things like Utena, Cutie Honey and Kill la Kill.

Nothing is better than Yotsuba when it comes to manga(except Nickelodeon *gasp*).

HxH isnt that good its true.
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>>102228045
It was most ongoing series plus this is pasta from last summer so some of them have ended, like Medaka Box.
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>>102228074
>Nothing is better than Yotsuba when it comes to manga
YKK
Aria
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>all these people saying JoJo is shounen
JoJo isn't marketed to the shounen dmeographic. It's marketed to the seinen demographic
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>>102215848
It's actually published in Shonen Jump Advanced, which is a version of Jump used to publish stuff for older readers than the stuff published in the main magazine.
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>>102228312
nowadays, yes.

But for nearly 20 years of its life, it was in Jump
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Where is all this HxH hate coming from?
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>>102228312
>JoJo
>Shonen jump

Are you retarded?
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>>102228312
It was in Shonen Jump until 2004
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>>102228317
>Shonen Jump Advanced
That's in America which is not relevant
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How is JoJo even considered a shonen? It's obviously catered to older audiences so why don't we call it seinen?
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>>102228649

See >>102227830
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>>102228763
Who gives a shit where its published. We should judge its genre by its content, not its publication.
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>>102228844
except shonen isn't a genre, it's a demographic.
so is seinen and shojo.
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>>102228844
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>>102228939
>>102228941
Do you guys really think Jojo appeals to young people as much as it does to older people?
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>>102229045
no, but that doesn't change the fact that up until partway through SBR, it was published in WSJ. a shonen magazine.

it also follows the "battle manga" formula, if you want to classify it in an actual genre.
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kids and adults can like the same stuff.

Hell most of the people reading most shonene arent kids anymore.

Fuck, what do kids-14 year olds watch/read nowadays that isn't in the naruto/bleach generation?

Shit keeps getting cancelled in jump before popularity can even be reached.
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>>102229209
Kid's are incapable of liking anything their friends don't like, which plays a big role in a fickle and overcrowded market and adults don't buy the merch, which is where the live-or-die part of shonen manga is.

It's why almost everything not already popular that could be construed as falling under the shonen demographic ends up published in borderline or outright ero-mags.
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>>102226017
Someone should update this. They have jumped around since this was made and some aren't even ongoing right now.
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>>102229719
>Someone should update this
Isn't that just one anons opinion?
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>>102229990
it is. that said, I think I'll take a crack at making an "updated version" myself.
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Nobody can speak for an entire board. But...

Zatch Bell
Kenshin
Yu Yu Hakusho
JoJo
Digimon Adventure
Rave Master
Ultimo
Shaman King
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>>102230344
Ultimo anime soon.
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>>102230344
Ultimo? the one that Stan Lee helped on?

that was p bad, mate
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>>102228442
Its like just me and one post by one other guy.
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>>102226017
No.

Also

>wan piss
>god tier

laughingelfman.jpg
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>>102209911
only fags love HxH
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>>102209911
I hate it.
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>>102231969
So that's why you love it right?
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>>102213983
That's what makes it so great
Saturday morning cartoon with shit like a bear-man biting a guy's head in half
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Eyeshield 21 (manga)
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>>102230116
I decided to do battle manga only.

Gintama, Bo-bobo, Sket Dance, and the like are gag manga primarily.

Eyeshield 21, Slam Dunk, Prince of Tennis, and Ippo are sports manga.

Ichigo 100%, Nisekoi, and To-Love-Ru are ecchi/romance manga.
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>>102232481
You seem to have mislabeled HxH. It shoudn't have a dot.
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>>102232481
How the fuck is Bleach edgy or pretentious, and you forgot the green dot too
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>>102232481
Biscuit Hammer is a seinen.
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>>102232481
That's one of the worst lists I've ever seen. You could at least attempt to hide the fact that you're horrifically biased.
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>>102232481
HxH is edgy as fuck
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space bros.
That's pretty much it, will pick up hxh once I finish gintama though (I stopped after hitting episode 27 and the animation shit the bed)
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>>102232767
Each one of us is biased. Don't bash his list.

You're naturally biased
I'm naturally biased
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>>102232767
towards what? my own tastes? no shit

>>102232600
>>102232783
good point

>>102232688
I know. do you see me claiming otherwise?

>>102232648
not edgy, but pretentious as fuck. so much so, that the only way to enjoy it is to overthink everything and make up connections and foreshadowing that aren't there. if you turn your brain off, it's just regular bad.
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>>102233105
Then like i said you forgot the green dot
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>>102233153
green dot means "if you think too hard you will realize how retarded everything is, for maximum enjoyment just go with the flow baby"

for bleach, you have to think hard to pretend everything ISN'T as retarded as it appears on the surface. the best part of bleach is the wild speculah with /a/.
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>>102233312
Fair enough
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpIcOvofcM8
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>>102233105

I think Samidare is seinen. I was published in a seinen magazine.
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>>102233105
One Piece sucks.
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>>102234100
He included battle manga that is seinen as well. I thought the same as you until I saw Hellsing as well.
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>>102233105
I think that black cat needs to be in Good Tier, I mean, it has a lot of cliches, but they are made in the right form. My opinion though
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>>102232783
Buzzwords are not valid criticism.
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>>102233105

Dragon ball is great.

I don't know how many anons have actually read it but when someone say DB is bad is because the anime.

A least it should be good because cell and majin buu arcs drags shit unnecessarily
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>>102234456
Black Cat is like my universal "so you are 12 and want to start reading manga" recommendation.

because yeah, it has the cliches, but the good ones. it's got badassery, ecchi, and the kind of coolguys that girls dig. so it appeals to all demographics.

and most importantly, it's a small, self-contained story that doesn't have a giant cancerous fanbase.

the perfect entry-level series, imo. So perhaps it could get bumped up a tier.

>>102234100
>>102234208
if I had meant "battle shonen" I would've written "battle shonen"
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>>102211564
This. I remember I was 14 and it was so fun. Almost 10 years has passed and I look at it and wonder what happened.

>>102209911
Yu Yu Hakusho, HxH and Shaman King. I don't remember much about the last one but I do remember it was kind of fun because Yoh's chill as fuck.
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Honestly, it's still too early for this manga to go down as a really popular one, but so far this shit has been blowing my mind. The MC alone is one of the most interesting in shounen history. The best part about it is the balance between comedy and the fights.

>pic related.
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>>102234621
It isn't bad, it definitely has some great moments and fights. But it has shallow characters, lazy worldbuilding, and like you said, two gigantic arcs that just could NOT WRAP UP.

and the pre-saiyan arc stuff isn't nearly as good as people like to pretend. it's like reading the Buggy arc of One Piece over and over again for the most part.
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>>102213374
>>102213441
>hating Kenshin
I haven't been to /a/ in 2 or 3 years. This is a joke, right?
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>>102234786
>and wonder what happened
Mexican arc and then Xcution
It could've been perfect with Resuce then Karakura then 1000 war years and end
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>>102216284
>Most shounen will show the deaths offscreen or in a flashback though.
Oh god, DBZ did this a couple of times. Punctured through the stomach, sucked whole, blown up, died of sacrifice, etc.
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>>102234827
OPM is not shonen.
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>>102234827
This kind of poster is why OPM is going to be unable to be discussed in a few months.

Thank god for Mob Psycho
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>>102230344
>>102230463
>>102230742
Ultimo still exists? I thought it died out. It's so fucking typical.
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>>102235075
What is it?

>>102235107
>This kind of poster is why OPM is going to be unable to be discussed in a few months.
What makes you say that?
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>>102209911
Sounen is not a genre

The only actual shounen anyone here should love is Pico
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>>102235360
Because you're treating OPM like something deep or amazing.

OPM is a manga with one punchline, which each arc building up to that Punchline.

And the fact that you thought Captain Baldie was unique or deep is pathetic

It's like you haven't even wtched Sunred
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>>102232481
>>102233105
What was wrong with Yu Yu Hakusho's and Rurouni Kenshin's endings? I've only seen the anime for those two (I haven't seen the OVAs or the DEEN episodes for RK yet). Not that I'm disagreeing with the ranking, I'm glad someone here has the balls to admit that neither are that great as people say they are and are both far from top tier manga (especially YYH).

And what tier does Inuyasha belong in?
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>>102235560
You have a shitty argument. You're assuming that I think there's some kind of meaningful story to be found in OPM, but there's nothing in my post that could imply that. I fully understand that the manga has more of a comedic goal than an action oriented story goal. So what? That's what I find great about it. The action and art in it is nothing to fucking sneeze at either.

I never said Saitama was deep. You're making shit up to try and make your pathetic argument look better. I never said he was unique either. I said he was one of the most interesting, which is to say the timing in the writing from when he switches from humorous/silly to serious is engaging for me and is pulled off very well.
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>>102214513
THERE IT IS
MY FUCKING NIGGA
the ending still makes me cry ;-;
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>>102232481
Terrible list. Kill yourself.
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>>102232783
Why is killua wearing lipstick?
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>>102235374
Boku no Pico is overrated and gay.
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Dear /a/, I just realized that the king ripped off his left arm even though he said take my right arm.

What a fag.
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>>102216284
>Most shounen will show the deaths offscreen or in a flashback though.

What? Every shounen I've seen had plenty of onscreen deaths. Though they'll often be edited when broadcasted in other countries.
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>>102234869
Pretty sure it is. Though Kenshin is far from perfect. Not counting the filler eps (because they're just filler) a lot of the fights fall under the traditional shounen anime trope of telling rather than showing, as characters often stand around talking more than actually fighting, and it doesn't help that the fights dragged on and on with nothing being accomplished for a long while, also a traditional shounen trope.

The series didn't really pick up steam until the Kyoto arc either, although some arcs like Jinei Udoh and Raijuta were enjoyable enough.
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>>102240420
>watching the anime
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>>102240543
I thought the anime was still good. At least I stopped before the DEEN episodes.
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>>102233105
Move Toriko to bad and Dragonball to good tier and we're good.
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>>102221253
>Hajime no Ippo
That's seinen right there.
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>>102226944

You can't be serious anon.
I understand what you're saying about the ridiculousness of the setting of that episode.
However, it was done perfectly and as such turned out to be one of the best episodes in a LONG time.
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>>102242644
No it's a shounen, it was even serialized in a weekly shounen magazine.
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>>102235560
>watched Sunred
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>>102210354
wooohoho da da da
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>>102240420
The anime was average because its old. Directors back then just wanted to cut down on animation because hand drawn.

Also they removed Kamatari's best scene.
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>>102244338
Yeah the anime adaptation was shit, which is yet again typical of shounen anime. Even not counting the woeful DEEN episodes.
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I wouldn't call myself a Naruto fan and this is only half on topic, but I can't be the only one who thinks it gets a lot of undeserved hate.

Like sure, it doesn't excel at... anything really, but I'd say it's a cut above most of the shounen fight manga that come and go in Jump, as well as several of the mainstays around /a/.

Like, why the fuck do we give Bleach a passable mark? Naruto's characters have a kiddy pool of depth but Bleach's characters are 90% plot devices and 10% PLOT. The power creep isn't nearly as bad as it is in Dragonball or Beelzebub, there's a bit of it but Zabuza is as relevant now as he was years ago as a threat. None of the enemies just come out of nowhere, they all have some amount of lead-up which is more than Gash Bell can talk about.

It's like, yeah Naruto isn't great, yeah Naruto being better than shit doesn't make it worth talking about, but the amount of hate it gets it mindboggling to me considering that we let series that're much worse float around the front page.

I'm talking to you Fairy Tail. You are the absolute worst.
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>>102215688
>implying Hellsing did not teach you to kill nazis and catholic pigs
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>>102232481
Is this a joke?
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>>102209911
I used lo like HxH, before the new anime just made the Shota-fags worse.
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>>102245278
>Like, why the fuck do we give Bleach a passable mark?
Because Bleach actually has things it excels at and reasons for people to like it. How is excelling at nothing, having kiddy pool depth characters, and 'not that bad' of a power creep a good thing?
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>>102245278
It's mostly due to the cancerous fanbase that overrate and overhype the series to death. The same reasons why DBZ was widely hated and bashed as much as Naruto (and Sword Art Online) back in the late 90s-early 2000s.
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>>102213441
>>102213625
Kill yourselves.
This series had a great balance of action, comedy, romance, and adventure.
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>>102246270
Let's be honest here, Bleach is bad at everything, it's just so bad it's good.
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>>102246403
A lot of people would disagree.
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>Only one person so far has said Hokuto no Ken/Fist of the North Star.
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>>102247085
You do realise that is this point there's just seldom of people who actually bothered to read the entire manga/watch the anime.

Mostly retards who take their opinion about the series from second hand sources. I mean, if you see anybody calling the writing in HnK shit and whatever, try to ask them specifically what and they'll instantly shut up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7PMojhQM64
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>>102247230
I haven't seen or read it and even I know it's revered on /a/.
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>>102247230
I kindly wish to go back to the time where every single person ever has read Hokuto no Ken.

>Recently finished re-watching the first part
>Couldn't fully remember what went down with Yuria at the end
>Watch the last episode
>...I'm sad again now

I still feel that the best evidence personally of how ell HnK was written was Souther, he was an absolute bastard and killer and yet despite that, through the quick backstory reveal of his, I still felt a bit sad that he had to die. Buronson, why do you do this me.

Also HnK invented a lot of Shounen fighting standards so there's that as well.
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>>102247085
I think the story went to shit after raoh's death.
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>>102247628
HnK had plenty of good characters. The way most of them went down is up to this day simply amazing and touching.

Fudoh, Juuza, Toki, Rei, Souther, Shuu, Raoh, Ken, Falco, Shin, Souther, Kaioh. I only ever didn't really like Jagi and Hyoh, among other small villains
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>>102247708
So do a lot of people (I still think it had some good points). But up until then, best manga of all time.
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>>102247739
I also don't like Rin and Bat.
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>>102247739
>Rei's death
>Shuu's death
>Fuudo's death

I was not ready for these feels today. That moment when Fuudo 'beat' Raoh was majestic. But Shuu getting his eyesight back was beyond words.

Some anon once told me about this bit they added in for Rei in one of the Ken's Rage games, and it fitted him perfectly (if it did indeed happen and I am making it up).
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magi aka greatest manga ever



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