What the fuck is up with this ending? Did it get the axe or something? This is not a conclusion to anything!
>Did it get the axe or something?
obviously. MC decided to be a cock sucking fag. who would want to read that shit??
So it really was cut short? Why?
To clarify, I just find it hard to believe this suddenly dropped so much in popularity, seeing how nothing really changed that would warrant it.
But maybe the girl getting interested in the guy really was the dealbreaker for a lot of people?!
His gay friend was just too annoying and I still can't believe he would chose him.
There would be no problems if it was normal guy, but annoying faggot with star shaped earrings? Nope.
I thought he was funny. Also top tier crossdresser.
still not as gay as this
is there a genderbending manga that doesn't end like shit
also one that isn't ranma
Oguri had already rejected the reverse trap and had said that he loved Chinami. There was a conclusion, even if it was rushed.
So everyone just gives up on Oguri/Chinami? And nothing about Chinami staying a girl?
Genderbent MC falling in love with a man and staying a girl is the best end.
Huh? They officially become a couple and both reject the other characters that liked them? What did you expect the other characters to do? Go full yandere, murder their rival and keep their love interest chained in their basement? And the fact that Chinami continued her modeling career as a girl shows that she decided to live as a girl.
But we don't even know if she continued her idol career.
>Genderbent MC falling in love with a man and staying a girl is the best end
it's gay as fuck, see >>102208357
So what are some manga with genderbending the other way?
What do you mean, a girl turning into a guy?
Nobody liked the ending
My poor senpai ;_;
>not wanting to fuck your best bro
Are you gay or something?
Such a faggy ending
>you'd fuck your best bro if he was physically attractive to you
gayest thing since gay came to gaytown
Of course, but it's all terrible shoujo.
I wanna see a manga similar to this where the MC falls in love with the male lead but instead of staying a girl, goes back to being male and the male lead becomes the girl.
What did you expect? Where's the appeal for a male to be reading about a girl turning into a guy?
literally for what purpose
You discount the fact that the very last panel of the manga shows her as an idol?
All I'm seeing is a magazine cover that could be from the past for all we know
Well there is that one manga about a girl pretending to be a male to compete in the olympics that's supposedly not shit.
Boku to boku has a trap and a reverse trap in a relationship.
What about the male character falling for the female lead, then becomes female, then the female lead becomes male, and they end up together?
For genderbending there's CUTExGUY, Oyajina and Tomodachi Kara Yoroshiku Desu. Bodyswapping from the girl's perspective includes Danshi-ing Girl and Dou Danjo.
that's super gay
probably the gayest thing in this thread
I guess you could interpret it thay way, but why discount the obvious?
It sounds redundant but still a better ending than idol pretender
Because I'm mad and the ending is shit.
For what purpose.jpg
*Genderbent MC falling in love with a futa and staying a girl is the best end
>posting caps from the awful hentai
Yep, although its more like MC crushes a bit on Girl, MC genderbends, Girl futabends, MC stays a girl and they fuck happily ever after.
That more or less happens in Nyotai-ka.
Sorry, just googled it and I liked the face she was making
I liked the ending despite it being abrupt. I had hoped that Oguri would win.
No no please no don't read that manga no
not sure if pun or the manga is actually bad
>is there a genderbending manga that doesn't end like shit
There is Futaba-kun Change though the end isn't particularly good either (the author literally didn't know how to end it so he did a "we'll see once we grow up" ending)
>also one that isn't ranma
If Ranma is your benchmark I am going to disappoint you and say that is pretty much the best you'll ever find, everything else is gonna disappoint it.
How can you like it? It's totally half-assed.
>girl gets guy
>love overpowers all
>doesn't want to change back
are all the conclusions we can draw from the end.
It wraps it up pretty well.
But why? Previously she said she loved both the girl and the guy, and now she wants not only the guy, but also stay a girl when the entire manga was about turning back into a guy?
A little more fleshing out wouldn't have hurt. Not to mention how every other character wasn't resolved at all.
Like >>102207655 said, the moment Chinami wanted Oguri it turned gay as fuck, and no one wants to read that
Sorry, but it's just true. Nobody has topped it since and it probably speaks to the quality of it.
Unless, of course, you are open to eromanga. There are a few interesting ones like Michael Keikaku or "It's been x days since I became a girl" but even so those fall under "the pleasure of being cummed inside and becoming a cockslut", it's just that their execution is flawless.
I think part of the problem (if you can call it that) is that people who would be interested in doing genderbending now instead do trap mangas because those right now are more popular and to some extent cover the same topics; though admittedly, not entirely, given that traps don't have to worry about possible pregnancy/having to deal with periods/multiple orgasms/etc and "returning to their body" is just putting guy's clothes again.
It's more like a niche genre and nobody cares.
I'd say that Ranma is a martial arts parody first, a harem series second and a genderbending comedy third. And Ranma never challenged its status quo for 38 volumes.
>And Ranma never challenged its status quo for 38 volumes.
I wouldn't say that at all
>>You'll never have a cute rich girl who will acquire a science penis, financially provide for you and your unborn child, and pleasure you every night with her horse cock
Also, not to be a complete downer, but if you want to read a genderbender manga that is godtier I'd recommend Ame Nochi Hare.
Why didn't I mention it to begin with?
Well, it's stuck in what I call "scanlation hell" where the group who was working on it dropped it and it's been left untouched for months.
The good side to the story is that it recently was picked up but the scanlation group is probably gonna take some time until they finish it.
As for other things you can read I refer you to this chart which IIRC was a work-in-progress but should over most of the stuff out there.
As for manga where the focus isn't on the genderbending itself but which feature a few good chapters involving genderbending, I'd refer you to To-Love-Ru, I cannot stand the main story but everytime there is a chapter where the MC becomes a girl the author nails it
Are you kidding? Nothing changed in Ranma. E.g. Akane never figured out P-chan's idemtity no matter how obvious it was. The only real change was when Ranma confessed to Akane and that only happened in the 2nd to last chapter.
Well plenty of stuff happened with other characters so I don't think it's fair to say nothing happened.
I do not disagree, but yet Ranma is probably the best genderbender in anime/manga out there.
He knows how to take advantadge of his "curse" and doesn't make too much of a deal of it on his day to day life (even if he is hellbent on getting rid of it because, you know, he can't be a "100% bona fide man" otherwise)
Well, nobody liked Akane anyways.
Also, posting the hentai chart
Chinami decided she loved one more than the other. How do you expect love triangles to be resoled? I thought it made sense. Chinami was brought close to Oguri by what happened to her and after they spent time together she fell in love with him. Besides, Chinami wasn't close to Yuika before becoming a girl so it's not as if they had an established relationship.
And Chinami had become progressively girlier through the manga and stopped worrying so much about turning back so jer decision made sense.
>And Chinami had become progressively girlier through the manga and stopped worrying so much about turning back so jer decision made sense.
Please, right before the end she turned into a loli because she was trying to become a guy again.
Ranma either treats his condition as an inconvenience or as a way to manipulate others. The series never realy explores the ramifications of switching sex on Ranma. It doesn't seem to affect him at all.
You're trying to tell me he went 400 chapters without enjoying his body?
What do you mean "enjoying"? Ranma never really shows interest in sex or his female body.
>The series never realy explores the ramifications of switching sex on Ranma. It doesn't seem to affect him at all.
He never stays stuck in female form long enough to it to take a toll.
The story in the manga explains that if someone with his curse stayed stuck (like some some chinese warlords had abused the curse for) "she" could actually breed children.
So if Ranma actually didn't change back for a few weeks she'd probably start having periods and stuff
you know what I mean
Ranma was stuck as a girl for a while in the Herb arc and that had no psychological effects on him.
>for a while
I don't recall it being weeks?
IIRC the longest was during the arc with the guy who put him in a iron corset and even then I think it wasn't long enough for a full period to develop.
Then again, maybe female Ranma's body is a late bloomer?
Have you got an example from the manga of Ranma "enjoying his body"?
Are you suggesting that unless Ranma bleeds from his vagina, such transformations should have no effect on him?
no but it just takes time
Ranma had 38 volumes of it and there had been no real change in him other than an increased willingness to use his female form to manipulate othera.
The problem is, Yuika got a lot of development. She realized gender does not matter and she loves Chinami despite him/her being a girl. And then what? Chinami suddenly needs a cock from a totally undeveloped Oguri. He was barely even in some of the chapters.
The manga just fucked its own moral in the end because god forbid we get a story with the girl not wanting a dick.
>Are you suggesting that unless Ranma bleeds from his vagina, such transformations should have no effect on him?
Yes, I am.
Mainly, because he doesn't have to deal with being a girl for too long he doesn't have to deal with the problems associated with it.
Even when stuck he besically consider it just a matter of time until he "unlocks male mode" again.
Rumiko Takahashi basically said that to Ranma becoming a girl was "just crossdressing".
Oguri consistently helped and defended Chinami even if it was at a cost to himself and was always close to her. I think it made sense she fell for him. The story could have explored Oguri's feelings a bit more too, but I guess that the main mystery of the series was whether Oguri really liked Chinami, so that's probably why the manga didn't go there.
I don't think that Idol Pretender's ending betrayed its message. Both Chinami and Yuika came to see a lesbian relationship as acceptable. Early on Chinami was against forbidden love after all. And Chinami got over her inhibitions and accepted that she could fall in love with a man despite having previously been male.
>but I guess that the main mystery of the series was whether Oguri really liked Chinami,
Good think we never got an answer how he feels about Chinami. We know nothing about Oguri really. He could be as well just a background character.
And the manga is still inconsequential with its own message. If Chinami turned back into a guy and still loved Ohuri would have been far better. But the way i see it is that she is just a horny girl.
Which in my opinion means it's not a good example of genderbending. One might like the manga, but if the genderbending is merely treated like crossdressing it sort of loses its point.
Yes, but we sadly do not have too many good examples of genderbending mangas that are fun to read to begin with and to be honest, I can understand why people would prefer a Ranma to an Idol Pretender.
Rather have a consistent portrayal that is maybe a bit mediocre than an "accurate" one (not that you can have an accurate one) that enrages the readership that got invested in reading for several chapters and gets stuck with a rage-inducing ending (though I agree that in the case of Idol Pretender people just decided to put on blinders instead of realizing what the author was intent on doing)
Oguri outright said he loved Chinami in chapter 12 and later rejected Rintarou.
And if the message was that gender doesn't matter, why do you say that the final couple has to be homosexual?
Well we don't know what the author was trying to do because it got the axe
Chapter 12 is Chapter 12 and not 15. Why not just adding his answers into the last page?
Because otherwise the message: Yes gender does matter. I am 100% convinced Chinami only loves Oguri because he is a girl.
Plenty of people liked the ending. I think its main problem was that it was rushed due to the manga getting axed.
>why do you say that the final couple has to be homosexual?
Because if gender doesn't matter, why didn't Oguri bang Chinami before the gender change?
If the author really tried to use 'gender doesn't matter' as the main theme, have Chinami end up with the girl who already said she'd still love her even if he turned back into a guy.