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I want to get into Nanoha. In what order should I watch the various series and movies?
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>>102203767

Production order. Drama CDs recommended.
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S1 > S2 (A's) > Movie 1 (remake of S1 with far better animation, movie budget, some story changes) > Movie 2 (same with S2, but more changes to story, plot suffered a bit).

Then you can watch S3 (StrikerS) if you want to (follows after the S2/Movie2 story) but it's very different (the girls are adults, 25 eps, stretched storyline, gorillion forgettable characters).
You can watch Movie 1 directly instead of S1 as there's not really anything that the movie didn't do better than the original there.
Movie 3 "soon" to come, it won't adapt S3/StrikerS though and nobody knows what it's going to be about yet.
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>>102204217
Can second this. You could read any of the manga series after watching the movies.
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>>102204313
>reading the manga

Maybe Innocent for cute peaceful antics and seeing all characters in a happy world with no suffering.
The rest is trash.
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>>102204533
>A's manga
>StrikerS manga
>trash
Wat.
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>>102204574
They are average at best.
Also there is no reason to watch S1 when Movie 1st is so much better. Seriously, I tried to rewatch it a couple of months ago and just couldn't.
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>>102204574
They are average at best.
Also there is no reason to watch S1 when The Movie 1st is so much better. Seriously, I tried to rewatch it a couple of months ago and just couldn't.
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>>102204794
Shinbo battles are delicious. The movie wasn't by Shinbo, right? Honestly, both were pretty trash.

Anyway, can I request the Nanoha enjoyment chart? I am plowing through Triangle Hearts at the moment before continuing with A's. I am promised robot girls somewhere in the franchise, so I will keep watching until then.
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>>102204794
>not liking more backstory
>not liking StrikerS giving us the best type of fanservice, i.e. "Who's the strongest mage hurrr" speculative wankery and Nanoha vs Signum exhibition fight
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best girl
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>>102204217
seconded
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>>102205725
>StrikerS is 6 years after A's
何?
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>>102204794
The warmest feeling in my heart
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PRODUCTION ORDER
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>>102205871
6 years from the epilog.
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>>102204794
>Also there is no reason to watch S1
more SoL and time spent on side characters
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>>102204574
>>102204906

Should I read the StrikerS manga or does it suffer from the same issues as the anime? As in, (too) long drawn out training against bots.
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>>102209095
The companion manga are supplementary material, they are pretty good.

You should read all the soundstages too, they add a lot of background information that makes stuff more meaningful.
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>>102209095
>Should I read the StrikerS manga

It has Signum vs. Nanoha...
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>>102204905
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>>102210387
Thanks.
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Is Magical Lyrical Girl Nanoha just pure shit or is it me? Its like nails on a blackboard to watch..
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>>102210737
It's just you
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>>102210737
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>>102210737
That sounds like a personal problem to me.
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>>102205725
We'll have to add that damned new manga to the chart too.
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>>102210932
Why is Precia such a best mom?

I wonder who Mr. Testarossa was. He was a lucky guy.
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>>102211207
> best mom
She raised Fate pretty well, I guess.
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>>102210576
>Dat symbolism
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>>102210902

I fucking love this
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>>102211207
Alicia's daddy has never been mentioned.
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>>102211207
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I watched the 2nd movie for the first time yesterday and I liked it a lot less than the season it was based off of. They made Nanoha seem a lot less badass since you didn't see her training of her own initiative, or blasting her way out of that barrier when her core was being drained, and other such shit. Plus they totally downplayed Fate and Signum's rivaly and their development. I know why they cut the admiral and cat girls subplot but I thought that made A's interesting since it was hard to tell why the masked man was doing his mysterious shit.

I mean, I loved the animation and all but it just didn't have the charm of the original A's.
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Imagine a world where Precia never went crazy.
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>>102213246
Imagine a world where Feito doesn't go full PTSD on Vivio and starts mistreating her.
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>>102213246
After getting beaten, abused, and abandoned by Precia, then losing her forever, Fate had to visit just such a sweet adorable world, and then destroy it by her own hand.

Being Fate-chan is suffering. At least she has Nanoha and Vivio.
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> tfw no StrikerS movie ever
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>>102213937
It's possible!
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>>102213521
she just got stockholm'd hard. then nanoha came along and beat her into submission, again. she simply changed masters
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>>102213246
Funny (or sad) thing is from what we see of her before she went insane, she much more similar to Fate personality-wise, compared to Innocent Precia whose closer to Alicia in personality.
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>>102213937
that could be movie 4
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>>102213937
>tfw animated ancient belkan never
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>>102214480
Ancient Belka movie when
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>>102214055
>>102214277
Yeah, let's not get our hopes up on that.

I think the Subaru and Teana VAs appearing in the movie commentary track is the closest we'll get.
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>>102214224
Why is head patting so adorable?
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>>102213937
StrikerS movie would be terrible. They would probably reduce the training arc to a 4 minute montage Rocky Style.
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>>102214224
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Do you think Fate would go preciamode if Nanoha, her adopted kids, and all her friends died in a terrible accident?
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>>102215088
Who wouldn't?
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>>102213130
Such a handsome husband. Fate learned well from her mother.
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>>102210737
That sounds like more of a "you" problem.
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>>102214848
There are only a couple important training moments - the intro and Teana's storyline.

I should make a recut or something sometime.
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>>102215088
I'm vaguely curious about how Fate would be if Nanoha died (not that they could ever make that a plot point).
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>>102214884
I didn't ask for this.
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>>102215243
but Nanoha wears the pants in that relationship.
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>>102215088
Fate loves Nanoha and Vivio too much to let any "terrible accident" happen.
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>>102215088
> Nanoha and Vivio dying
Nanoha ~After Story~
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>>102215589
Is it wrong to fap to NanoFeito? Their love is so pure that I feel like a dirty peeping tom.
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>>102215620
NOOOOOOO!
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>>102215785
Yes, unless you're a little girl in your heart and selfinsert.
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>>102215563
Nanoha is the assertive woman while Fate is the submissive husband that dotes on her wife and daughter.
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>>102214848
They could just cut out all the parts that would shine an unfavorable light on the TSAB. I wonder what they'd do with grantz. The high council would probably get cut completely.
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>>102215088
of course she would
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>>102213032
I did like seeing the knights in their past armour
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>>102217896
I never payed attention to the background in that scene but
>these castle spikes
Belkan architects, what the fuck were you thinking
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>>102218024
>Belkan architects, what the fuck were you thinking
"Spikes are fucking cool. Let's put them everywhere"
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>>102218024
defense against giant robots, bugs, dragons, etc
they would poke themselves so they back off

huge fauna is scary mang
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>>102218024
The better to impale your enemies upon, anon.
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So is there any news about when that new Nanoha manga with the strange name is going to start?
Or what its about? The one that the Force artist is doing and put Force on hiatus to do?
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>>102221040
It's already ongoing and is just the story of S1
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>>102221138
> just the story of S1
Are you fucking kidding me? Again? Why? Fucking..why...it's not like missing out on Force is a problem but there is a limit to how many times you can cover the same story.
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>>102221263
Technically it never had a straight adaptation before, and it's something Yukari can't fuck up.
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>>102221506
>it's something Yukari can't fuck up.
You are too optimistic, anon.

Fate's storyline is kinda boring now. Who should get the spotlight in the next installment in the franchise?
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>>102223242
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>>102223242
Agito and Reinforce find several other Belkan minis and together they form a tiny magical girl crime fighting group.
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>>102221506
>Technically it never had a straight adaptation before
I don't think 7 Arcs have the balls to do a straight adaptation of anything Nanoha related. Imagine the backslash.
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>>102223242
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So I can watch the First movie, then the second season and be pleased?
Or do I need to watch/read the supplementary stuff and the newer seasons?
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>>102223720
Sure, I guess.

I mean, there's only one more season after the second, so it wouldn't hurt to at least try to keep going.
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>>102223720
If you like the universe and characters then continue on to StrikerS, but keep in mind there's barely any lolis so if you're only watching for that then you might be disappointed.
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>>102223720
you can do that if you want. you'll be missing some details, character background etc. but there won't be any huge plotholes if that's your concern.

note that the movies do tell the story a bit differently. Ostensibly they're produced in-universe to retell their own stories and leave out some parts.
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>>102223463
I would be largely okay with that.
Shamal a cutie
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>>102224512
Only the second movie has major changes. The first movie doesn't really change much so much as add in things that were never there.
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>>102225639
"Never there" is wrong. It's actually an adaptation of parts of the S1 soundstages.
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>>102223463
Shamal is untapped potential. The TV didn't do much with her, the movie had even less. StrikerS she was only nominally in it. Everything manga-wise that mentions her is playing off how she is an airhead and a terrible cook.
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>>102221506
>Something Yukari can't fuck up

Wait, what's that supposed to mean?
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>>102225980
Higa not Tamura.
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>>102223580
>straight adaptation
I see what you did there.
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>>102226088
Oh, okay...Thought I was gonna have to fight you for a second there.
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>>102208552

What are you trying to say, exactly?
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>>102226289
I think he's trying to say something along the lines of "That's...cute that you think that." That is definitely a disapproving smile there.
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>>102226979
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Einhart>Vivio
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>>102227723
They are cutest with each other.
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Is Vivid even worth reading? is Force?
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uguu~

>>102228105
Vivid is, if you can stomach tournament arc and nothing too serious. Force is really, really bad.
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If nothing else, everyone should read the orgiastic mock battle that runs from ch.12-16 of Vivid.
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>>102228342
someone needs to make a transparent ver. of this pic.
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>>102228304
Yeah, anyone who liked StrikerS should read up to the end of that battle and then drop it unless they want boring sameface loli tournament shit.
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>>102228342

Which Vita is cuter
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>>102204217
Just what I really need, thanks anon
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>>102223463
She will take you care ,and make your happy and lucky days.
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>>102228878
All Vita's are the cutest
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>>102229559
What about hardass trainer Vita?
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>>102229701
She's only a hardass out of love.
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>>102229701
Seeing how Vita rekt Subaru over and over again makes me wonder about powerlevels. Could Subaru beat season 1 Nanoha?
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>>102230102
re: vita beating the shit out of nanoha in a's
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I keep thinking about StrikerS and how, while Subaru and Teana kind of play the "newcomer deuteragonist" role that Fate and Hayate+family play in S1 and A's(but kind of quietly lose all relevance besides squaring off with the Numbers during the final battle), there's really not a lot to Erio and Caro beyond "the one that can fly" and something to remind us Fate's got some childhood traumas that she's still working around. And that ultimately amount to, "By the way, Prison Spaghetti worked on the cloning program"

And it's frustrating because they command the attention of the first half of the show. Using it was a good way to passively demonstrate the growth of the older members of the cast but that could've been done in less episodes.
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>>102216543
>...with the baby inside me.
This never fails to get me.
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Then you go and read the amazing A's Nano and Striker'S Nano comics.
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>>102230102
The Nanoha that hit Fate with a Starlight Breaker? I dunno.
Subaru seems like the kind of fighter that would not be particularly good at fighting Nanoha one-on-one, since she can't fly and her strength is close-range brawling.
The difference might be tactics. It's not likely that Nanoha has trained nearly as much as Subaru at that point.
There's a formal powerlevel system for mage ranking, but I can't remember how Subaru was rated, and we don't know what Nanoha's ranking was when she was 9.
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>>102230320
Subaru and Tia both had ambitions, detailed backgrounds, and development that lasted the entire season. They were well-rounded and given plenty of screentime.

In comparison to that Erio and Caro just seemed like vessels to further Fate's own development and a way to show how she's advanced from a naive girl with mommy issues to a resolute motherly woman. For what it's worth the manga does a better job at filling out their personalities and backgrounds. Were those things included in greater detail they might have come off better.
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>>102230428
Those comics are boring, the punch lines are dull and repeated until exhaustion, making all characters unidimensional at best.
If you want to give good Nanoha recommendations, you can't go wrong with the any of the doujins from MekiMeki for comedy or Tokoharu for fluff.
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>>102230756
> that picture
Maybe the reason that StrikerS was so successful is that it gave you characters you didn't feel bad for wanting to fuck?
> that Teana
Shiiiiiit.
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>>102230644
Nanoha was ranked AAA in the first season, Subaru only ranks AA and thats post StrikerS.
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>>102231095
>you will never work with Riot Team 6
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>>102231093
Yeah, those particular comics are really boring.
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The immortal question:

Stars or Lightning?
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>>102231479
Lightning are too hetero for me
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>>102231657
Caro and Erio are not hetero, they were just young and confused in StrikerS.
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>>102231657
I kinda wish they tried to let Erio and Caro be more interesting characters.
Were they afraid fans would hate there being a too-noticeable het relationship in the story?
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>>102231797
HOT SWEATY VANILLA LUST
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If Caro isn't getting taller, where is all her growth going?
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>>102232000
erio
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>>102232000
To her penis.
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>>102232000
her penis
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>>102232175
You two need to leave.
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>>102232175
Where does this come from? All the futa doujins I see for StrikerS have Subaru as the futa.
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Fate and Nanoha are my favorite. Hayate too.

Why is there aren't that many good pics of the trio together? It's often usually Nanoha and Fate as a duo instead of the N, F, H trio.
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>>102232379
It's a known fact that Mid's population is 95% female due to the quickly increasing rate on lesbianism, so some women have developed the evolutionary trait of having penises to aid them in natural procreation without having to resort to science.
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>>102232175
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>>102232530
Because Hayate is the third wheel.

alternately she's taking the pictures
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>>102232530
Third wheel
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>>102232530
Most pics are for shipping NanoFate, you don't want to include Hayate in there.
Hayate cheating on Reinforce would be unfair.
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>>102232578
Isn't Subaru a cyborg though? I figure she could mix-and-match parts to suit her fancy.
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>>102232719
I don't know where you got that idea, anon.
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>>102232530
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>>102232886
Man, that picture...Hayate in the background leaning awkwardly trying and failing to see whatever Fate and Nanoha are looking at, as Fate and Nanoha are holding hands and hogging the center of the frame.
No wonder Hayate doesn't like ending up in pictures with them.
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>>102221040
>>102221138
What's the name?
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>>102233079
Original Chronicle Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha The 1st
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>>102233036
There is nothing to see, Nanoha and Fate are just matching shells.
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>>102233133
Ah.

... Why the fuck would they restart shit again?
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>>102233233
Damage control
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>>102233233
Well, who cares about that.
We're getting a movie with an all-new story.
For now, let's hope that it'll save Nanoha from irrelevance.
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>>102233233
Because Force is dead and they have to give Yukari something to draw or she'll die of starvation.
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>>102233401
It takes place between A's and StrikerS right? They got a 10 year gap to do whatever the fuck they want, I don't know why they haven't jumped at the opportunity earlier.
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>>102232530
>>102232886
>>102233063
>>102233498
>all dat hand-holding
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Bummer. I think Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate together is a great thing. I mean, there's always the threesome route, right?
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>>102233962
>Hayate stopping at just two girls
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>>102234016
Why is Fate holding a mortar round in her hand?
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>>102233233

This way it's less obvious that they're putting it on hiatus while Tsuzuki figures out what to do with it. If it were her work being unsatisfactory, they wouldn't give her another thing to do.
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>>102235563
Though Higa Yukari is still pretty shit overall.

Her badness is only the tip of the shitfest iceberg known as Force though.
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>>102235821

She is pretty bad. I'm amazed Curren manages to look cute as a loli drawn by her, given that one image of Fate she did.
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>>102215620
>Vivio dying

You want a fight?
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>>102234016
Fate so sexy
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So yeah.

Nanoha is extremely scary. Terrifying.
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>>102238079
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>>102238883
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>>102238933
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>>102238979
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>>102238079
>>102238842
>>102238883
>>102238979
>>102239018
This pairing is acceptable
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>>102240079
As a dedicated NanoFatefag, I also approve.
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>>102240269
>>102240079
But why
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>>102240768
Because Chrono is a likable guy. He might be married to Amy but I wouldn't be opposed to him having Nanoha on the side.
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>>102243266
Is it time?
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>>102244253
It's always time.
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>>102213246
>That moment Precia realised that she forgot about her promise to give Alicia a little sister
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>>102228676
>Wanting to miss the ancient belka flashback after the tournament
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>>102213246
That scene in A's where Fate trembles and looks terrified when Precia touched her cheek broke my heart.
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>>102235821
So, I'm halfway through Force, when does it start getting bad?
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>>102246467
>when does it start getting bad?
it was bad from start from moment author connected Touma to Nanoha cast ruining Touma adventure and old cast alike at the same time
adding Grendels shit and Touma moral faggotry speech took it down like his earlier emo crying
it never gets good
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>>102246645
I don't remember him moral fagging. What chapter? Plus I think he still can develop.
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>>102215088
>Nanoha
>Die
More like her realizing who she really is and returning to rule her kingdom.
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>>102245362
>implying Fate didn't make that up
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>>102249127
Considering that she has Alicia's memories, the promise is probably true.
The realisation, not so much.
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>>102241299
Chrono wouldn't do that. He is a devoted husbando to Amy. Someone figured out that he got her pregnant before they were even married.

Just stick to Triangle Heart where is is Nanoha's husbando.
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>>102245814
Poor Fate-chan...
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>>102251485
What a naughty boy.
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>>102252634
Amy is just an especially lewd girl.
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>>102253078
Yeah, having his babies like that. Lewd as hell.
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>>102255214
We have hardly any non-movie Nanoha gifs, there's gotta be a few more ones people want to see.
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>>102246467
When Signum dies
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>>102253956
>Yeah, having his babies like that. Lewd as hell.
Not even one good doujin with Chrono fucking Amy to get her pregnant with shotgun wedding exist...
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>>102257819
I've never even seen one picture of them doing it.
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>>102256785
Holy shit that's beautiful.
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>>102257819
>>102258052
There's plenty of doujins of Chrono NTRing Amy with Fate.
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>>102258456
onii-chan~
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>>102246467

When you realize who should have been the lead.
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>>102256746
well, i could make some if someone specifies scenes
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>>102246467
chapter one?
when signum gets stabbed at the latest?
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>>102253078
Lindy was lewd too. She was only a teenager when she had Chrono (and Chrono's daddy was like 25)
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>>102262116
Lindy was 17 and Clyde was 22 when Chrono was born

5 year difference, not too creepy
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>>102262654
she was underage
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>>102265336
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>>102266671
Only in burgerland.
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>>102271763
She was probably 16 when they fugged

most likely illegal in magicland
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>>102273708
>TSAB
>anything illegal
they let teenagers run around with WMDs, are/were ruled by a powerhungry council of "according to keikaku" brains-in-a-jar, hire criminals into their ranks, let mass-murderers roam as long as they keep a low profile and give a sole captain the authority to commence orbital bombardment to contain an artifact in case aforementioned teenagers (one of them not even employed by the TSAB) can't mop up the situation.

As long as you properly register your doomsday devices and don't build any physics-based weapons or threaten wildlife habitats anything is legal.
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>>102274157
Regius was right, their military was in need of a serious reformation. At the very least they put limiters on the powerful mages. Unfortunately corruption is so widespread that the Harlaown Family was able to use nepotism to put their friends and family members into the highest positions so they can sidestep those regulations and utilize as many loopholes as they want.
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>>102274475
Someone make a REGIUS DID NOTHING WRONG image
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>>102274157
>black hole guns illegal
fuck that shit
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>>102277894
>Yuuno gets to snuggle on Nanoha's ass.
The fucking bastard.
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>>102203767
Whatever you do just don't get hyped at this bitch here. She's a fucking failure and a big dissapointment.
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I recently watched S1 and it was pretty boring, a 6/10 at best.
Does it pick up hard later on or what?
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>>102279131
see >>102210387
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>>102279131
The first series is boring. Watch S2.
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>>102274817
It's different when THEY do it.
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>yfw Vivio is voiced by Navi
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>>102282643
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Best parts of StrikerS:
Subaru and Teana
Episodes 17 and up
Vivio and being voiced by Kaori Mizuhashi
Nanoha becoming the show's equivalent of Ellen Ripley
The god-tier OPs by Nana Mizuki
Chiwa Saito
More yuri subtext
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>>102283002
Goddamn I loved StrikerS
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>>102278846

>talking shit about her waifu
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How do you feel about NanoFate never becoming official even until you turn 40 next year?
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>>102283671

let me guess, hayate is taking the picture?
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>>102286417
It's actually Erio.
Hence lewd topless Caro
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>>102286393
I was already 30 when they became canon.
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>>102232530

I agree. I think I'm the only one who ships HayateXFate
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>>102286989
Why are androids so cute?
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>>102286719

>canon

anon, pls we've been through this before.
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>>102286989
>Erio can't contain his testosterone.jpg
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>>102286989
Not sure if I can be okay with this.
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>>102286989
I feel uneasy when I see my cute yuri couples in the presence of that blossoming masculine demigod.
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>>102286989
>blushing Signum looking the other way
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>>102289910
She's secretly fondling his dick.
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>>102286989
I fucking hate him

the only male who is allowed to get bitches is Chrono
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>>102294764
Jesus christ, my heart can't into all this HNNNNG.
Nanoha best girl, Hayate second best, by their powers united...
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>>102297329
High res version.
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>Ike! Fin Fanneru!
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I can't help but see Stern and sometimes Dearche as boys.
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>>102297329
>>102298560
Who are these girls?
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i want to rape Nanoha and hear her adorable moaning voice.
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>>102299208
They are called Materials.

Nanoha clone, Fate clone and Hayate clone
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>>102299261
Cyclone, please.
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NanoFate makes me so happy. Unlike MadoHomu.
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I wish Nanoha and Fate kept their adult hairstyles when transformed in StrikerS.

I mean, I don't mind the twintails but the sidetail and that huge thing Fate's rocking(or maybe a more sensible ponytail) were pretty flattering.
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>>102302769


I hated the sidetail. I imagine it's the first thing Fate removes during lovemaking.
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>>102293452
But isn't Erio allowed Caro?
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>>102298560
Nanoha is such a slut.
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>>102302822
>I hated the sidetail

But how.
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>>102301032
I want to fuck Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate silly and see their a faces.
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>>102302822
strange, it's one of Fate's lovable fetish point for me
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This series has such bad doujins. Even yuri or futa are bad.
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>>102303708
>kawaii, must hug
>i'm about to get violated
>FUCK OFF
>we're trying to take a fucking picture here, say still you little shit
>boobies
>i will masturbate to this tonight.
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>>102299056
Its the short hair and probably their not so feminine personality.
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