I want to get into Nanoha. In what order should I watch the various series and movies?
Production order. Drama CDs recommended.
S1 > S2 (A's) > Movie 1 (remake of S1 with far better animation, movie budget, some story changes) > Movie 2 (same with S2, but more changes to story, plot suffered a bit).
Then you can watch S3 (StrikerS) if you want to (follows after the S2/Movie2 story) but it's very different (the girls are adults, 25 eps, stretched storyline, gorillion forgettable characters).
You can watch Movie 1 directly instead of S1 as there's not really anything that the movie didn't do better than the original there.
Movie 3 "soon" to come, it won't adapt S3/StrikerS though and nobody knows what it's going to be about yet.
Can second this. You could read any of the manga series after watching the movies.
>reading the manga
Maybe Innocent for cute peaceful antics and seeing all characters in a happy world with no suffering.
The rest is trash.
They are average at best.
Also there is no reason to watch S1 when Movie 1st is so much better. Seriously, I tried to rewatch it a couple of months ago and just couldn't.
They are average at best.
Also there is no reason to watch S1 when The Movie 1st is so much better. Seriously, I tried to rewatch it a couple of months ago and just couldn't.
Shinbo battles are delicious. The movie wasn't by Shinbo, right? Honestly, both were pretty trash.
Anyway, can I request the Nanoha enjoyment chart? I am plowing through Triangle Hearts at the moment before continuing with A's. I am promised robot girls somewhere in the franchise, so I will keep watching until then.
>not liking more backstory
>not liking StrikerS giving us the best type of fanservice, i.e. "Who's the strongest mage hurrr" speculative wankery and Nanoha vs Signum exhibition fight
>StrikerS is 6 years after A's
The warmest feeling in my heart
6 years from the epilog.
>Also there is no reason to watch S1
more SoL and time spent on side characters
Should I read the StrikerS manga or does it suffer from the same issues as the anime? As in, (too) long drawn out training against bots.
The companion manga are supplementary material, they are pretty good.
You should read all the soundstages too, they add a lot of background information that makes stuff more meaningful.
>Should I read the StrikerS manga
It has Signum vs. Nanoha...
Is Magical Lyrical Girl Nanoha just pure shit or is it me? Its like nails on a blackboard to watch..
It's just you
That sounds like a personal problem to me.
We'll have to add that damned new manga to the chart too.
Why is Precia such a best mom?
I wonder who Mr. Testarossa was. He was a lucky guy.
> best mom
She raised Fate pretty well, I guess.
I fucking love this
Alicia's daddy has never been mentioned.
I watched the 2nd movie for the first time yesterday and I liked it a lot less than the season it was based off of. They made Nanoha seem a lot less badass since you didn't see her training of her own initiative, or blasting her way out of that barrier when her core was being drained, and other such shit. Plus they totally downplayed Fate and Signum's rivaly and their development. I know why they cut the admiral and cat girls subplot but I thought that made A's interesting since it was hard to tell why the masked man was doing his mysterious shit.
I mean, I loved the animation and all but it just didn't have the charm of the original A's.
Imagine a world where Precia never went crazy.
Imagine a world where Feito doesn't go full PTSD on Vivio and starts mistreating her.
After getting beaten, abused, and abandoned by Precia, then losing her forever, Fate had to visit just such a sweet adorable world, and then destroy it by her own hand.
Being Fate-chan is suffering. At least she has Nanoha and Vivio.
> tfw no StrikerS movie ever
she just got stockholm'd hard. then nanoha came along and beat her into submission, again. she simply changed masters
Funny (or sad) thing is from what we see of her before she went insane, she much more similar to Fate personality-wise, compared to Innocent Precia whose closer to Alicia in personality.
that could be movie 4
>tfw animated ancient belkan never
Ancient Belka movie when
Yeah, let's not get our hopes up on that.
I think the Subaru and Teana VAs appearing in the movie commentary track is the closest we'll get.
Why is head patting so adorable?
StrikerS movie would be terrible. They would probably reduce the training arc to a 4 minute montage Rocky Style.
Do you think Fate would go preciamode if Nanoha, her adopted kids, and all her friends died in a terrible accident?
Such a handsome husband. Fate learned well from her mother.
That sounds like more of a "you" problem.
There are only a couple important training moments - the intro and Teana's storyline.
I should make a recut or something sometime.
I'm vaguely curious about how Fate would be if Nanoha died (not that they could ever make that a plot point).
I didn't ask for this.
but Nanoha wears the pants in that relationship.
Fate loves Nanoha and Vivio too much to let any "terrible accident" happen.
> Nanoha and Vivio dying
Nanoha ~After Story~
Is it wrong to fap to NanoFeito? Their love is so pure that I feel like a dirty peeping tom.
Yes, unless you're a little girl in your heart and selfinsert.
Nanoha is the assertive woman while Fate is the submissive husband that dotes on her wife and daughter.
They could just cut out all the parts that would shine an unfavorable light on the TSAB. I wonder what they'd do with grantz. The high council would probably get cut completely.
of course she would
I did like seeing the knights in their past armour
I never payed attention to the background in that scene but
>these castle spikes
Belkan architects, what the fuck were you thinking
>Belkan architects, what the fuck were you thinking
"Spikes are fucking cool. Let's put them everywhere"
defense against giant robots, bugs, dragons, etc
they would poke themselves so they back off
huge fauna is scary mang
The better to impale your enemies upon, anon.
So is there any news about when that new Nanoha manga with the strange name is going to start?
Or what its about? The one that the Force artist is doing and put Force on hiatus to do?
It's already ongoing and is just the story of S1
> just the story of S1
Are you fucking kidding me? Again? Why? Fucking..why...it's not like missing out on Force is a problem but there is a limit to how many times you can cover the same story.
Technically it never had a straight adaptation before, and it's something Yukari can't fuck up.
>it's something Yukari can't fuck up.
You are too optimistic, anon.
Fate's storyline is kinda boring now. Who should get the spotlight in the next installment in the franchise?
Agito and Reinforce find several other Belkan minis and together they form a tiny magical girl crime fighting group.
>Technically it never had a straight adaptation before
I don't think 7 Arcs have the balls to do a straight adaptation of anything Nanoha related. Imagine the backslash.
So I can watch the First movie, then the second season and be pleased?
Or do I need to watch/read the supplementary stuff and the newer seasons?
Sure, I guess.
I mean, there's only one more season after the second, so it wouldn't hurt to at least try to keep going.
If you like the universe and characters then continue on to StrikerS, but keep in mind there's barely any lolis so if you're only watching for that then you might be disappointed.
you can do that if you want. you'll be missing some details, character background etc. but there won't be any huge plotholes if that's your concern.
note that the movies do tell the story a bit differently. Ostensibly they're produced in-universe to retell their own stories and leave out some parts.
I would be largely okay with that.
Shamal a cutie
Only the second movie has major changes. The first movie doesn't really change much so much as add in things that were never there.
"Never there" is wrong. It's actually an adaptation of parts of the S1 soundstages.
Shamal is untapped potential. The TV didn't do much with her, the movie had even less. StrikerS she was only nominally in it. Everything manga-wise that mentions her is playing off how she is an airhead and a terrible cook.
>Something Yukari can't fuck up
Wait, what's that supposed to mean?
Higa not Tamura.
I see what you did there.
Oh, okay...Thought I was gonna have to fight you for a second there.
What are you trying to say, exactly?
I think he's trying to say something along the lines of "That's...cute that you think that." That is definitely a disapproving smile there.
They are cutest with each other.
Is Vivid even worth reading? is Force?
Vivid is, if you can stomach tournament arc and nothing too serious. Force is really, really bad.
If nothing else, everyone should read the orgiastic mock battle that runs from ch.12-16 of Vivid.
someone needs to make a transparent ver. of this pic.
Yeah, anyone who liked StrikerS should read up to the end of that battle and then drop it unless they want boring sameface loli tournament shit.
Which Vita is cuter
Just what I really need, thanks anon
She will take you care ,and make your happy and lucky days.
All Vita's are the cutest
What about hardass trainer Vita?
She's only a hardass out of love.
Seeing how Vita rekt Subaru over and over again makes me wonder about powerlevels. Could Subaru beat season 1 Nanoha?
re: vita beating the shit out of nanoha in a's
I keep thinking about StrikerS and how, while Subaru and Teana kind of play the "newcomer deuteragonist" role that Fate and Hayate+family play in S1 and A's(but kind of quietly lose all relevance besides squaring off with the Numbers during the final battle), there's really not a lot to Erio and Caro beyond "the one that can fly" and something to remind us Fate's got some childhood traumas that she's still working around. And that ultimately amount to, "By the way, Prison Spaghetti worked on the cloning program"
And it's frustrating because they command the attention of the first half of the show. Using it was a good way to passively demonstrate the growth of the older members of the cast but that could've been done in less episodes.
>...with the baby inside me.
This never fails to get me.
Then you go and read the amazing A's Nano and Striker'S Nano comics.
The Nanoha that hit Fate with a Starlight Breaker? I dunno.
Subaru seems like the kind of fighter that would not be particularly good at fighting Nanoha one-on-one, since she can't fly and her strength is close-range brawling.
The difference might be tactics. It's not likely that Nanoha has trained nearly as much as Subaru at that point.
There's a formal powerlevel system for mage ranking, but I can't remember how Subaru was rated, and we don't know what Nanoha's ranking was when she was 9.
Subaru and Tia both had ambitions, detailed backgrounds, and development that lasted the entire season. They were well-rounded and given plenty of screentime.
In comparison to that Erio and Caro just seemed like vessels to further Fate's own development and a way to show how she's advanced from a naive girl with mommy issues to a resolute motherly woman. For what it's worth the manga does a better job at filling out their personalities and backgrounds. Were those things included in greater detail they might have come off better.
Those comics are boring, the punch lines are dull and repeated until exhaustion, making all characters unidimensional at best.
If you want to give good Nanoha recommendations, you can't go wrong with the any of the doujins from MekiMeki for comedy or Tokoharu for fluff.
> that picture
Maybe the reason that StrikerS was so successful is that it gave you characters you didn't feel bad for wanting to fuck?
> that Teana
Nanoha was ranked AAA in the first season, Subaru only ranks AA and thats post StrikerS.
>you will never work with Riot Team 6
Yeah, those particular comics are really boring.
The immortal question:
Stars or Lightning?
Lightning are too hetero for me
Caro and Erio are not hetero, they were just young and confused in StrikerS.
I kinda wish they tried to let Erio and Caro be more interesting characters.
Were they afraid fans would hate there being a too-noticeable het relationship in the story?
HOT SWEATY VANILLA LUST
If Caro isn't getting taller, where is all her growth going?
To her penis.
You two need to leave.
Where does this come from? All the futa doujins I see for StrikerS have Subaru as the futa.
Fate and Nanoha are my favorite. Hayate too.
Why is there aren't that many good pics of the trio together? It's often usually Nanoha and Fate as a duo instead of the N, F, H trio.
It's a known fact that Mid's population is 95% female due to the quickly increasing rate on lesbianism, so some women have developed the evolutionary trait of having penises to aid them in natural procreation without having to resort to science.
Because Hayate is the third wheel.
alternately she's taking the pictures
Most pics are for shipping NanoFate, you don't want to include Hayate in there.
Hayate cheating on Reinforce would be unfair.
Isn't Subaru a cyborg though? I figure she could mix-and-match parts to suit her fancy.
I don't know where you got that idea, anon.
Man, that picture...Hayate in the background leaning awkwardly trying and failing to see whatever Fate and Nanoha are looking at, as Fate and Nanoha are holding hands and hogging the center of the frame.
No wonder Hayate doesn't like ending up in pictures with them.
What's the name?
Original Chronicle Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha The 1st
There is nothing to see, Nanoha and Fate are just matching shells.
... Why the fuck would they restart shit again?
Well, who cares about that.
We're getting a movie with an all-new story.
For now, let's hope that it'll save Nanoha from irrelevance.
Because Force is dead and they have to give Yukari something to draw or she'll die of starvation.
It takes place between A's and StrikerS right? They got a 10 year gap to do whatever the fuck they want, I don't know why they haven't jumped at the opportunity earlier.
>all dat hand-holding
Bummer. I think Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate together is a great thing. I mean, there's always the threesome route, right?
>Hayate stopping at just two girls
Why is Fate holding a mortar round in her hand?
This way it's less obvious that they're putting it on hiatus while Tsuzuki figures out what to do with it. If it were her work being unsatisfactory, they wouldn't give her another thing to do.
Though Higa Yukari is still pretty shit overall.
Her badness is only the tip of the shitfest iceberg known as Force though.
She is pretty bad. I'm amazed Curren manages to look cute as a loli drawn by her, given that one image of Fate she did.
You want a fight?
Fate so sexy
Nanoha is extremely scary. Terrifying.
This pairing is acceptable
As a dedicated NanoFatefag, I also approve.
Because Chrono is a likable guy. He might be married to Amy but I wouldn't be opposed to him having Nanoha on the side.
Is it time?
It's always time.
>That moment Precia realised that she forgot about her promise to give Alicia a little sister
>Wanting to miss the ancient belka flashback after the tournament
That scene in A's where Fate trembles and looks terrified when Precia touched her cheek broke my heart.
So, I'm halfway through Force, when does it start getting bad?
>when does it start getting bad?
it was bad from start from moment author connected Touma to Nanoha cast ruining Touma adventure and old cast alike at the same time
adding Grendels shit and Touma moral faggotry speech took it down like his earlier emo crying
it never gets good
I don't remember him moral fagging. What chapter? Plus I think he still can develop.
More like her realizing who she really is and returning to rule her kingdom.
>implying Fate didn't make that up
Considering that she has Alicia's memories, the promise is probably true.
The realisation, not so much.
Chrono wouldn't do that. He is a devoted husbando to Amy. Someone figured out that he got her pregnant before they were even married.
Just stick to Triangle Heart where is is Nanoha's husbando.
What a naughty boy.
Amy is just an especially lewd girl.
Yeah, having his babies like that. Lewd as hell.
We have hardly any non-movie Nanoha gifs, there's gotta be a few more ones people want to see.
When Signum dies
>Yeah, having his babies like that. Lewd as hell.
Not even one good doujin with Chrono fucking Amy to get her pregnant with shotgun wedding exist...
I've never even seen one picture of them doing it.
Holy shit that's beautiful.
There's plenty of doujins of Chrono NTRing Amy with Fate.
When you realize who should have been the lead.
well, i could make some if someone specifies scenes
when signum gets stabbed at the latest?
Lindy was lewd too. She was only a teenager when she had Chrono (and Chrono's daddy was like 25)
Lindy was 17 and Clyde was 22 when Chrono was born
5 year difference, not too creepy
she was underage
Only in burgerland.
She was probably 16 when they fugged
most likely illegal in magicland
they let teenagers run around with WMDs, are/were ruled by a powerhungry council of "according to keikaku" brains-in-a-jar, hire criminals into their ranks, let mass-murderers roam as long as they keep a low profile and give a sole captain the authority to commence orbital bombardment to contain an artifact in case aforementioned teenagers (one of them not even employed by the TSAB) can't mop up the situation.
As long as you properly register your doomsday devices and don't build any physics-based weapons or threaten wildlife habitats anything is legal.
Regius was right, their military was in need of a serious reformation. At the very least they put limiters on the powerful mages. Unfortunately corruption is so widespread that the Harlaown Family was able to use nepotism to put their friends and family members into the highest positions so they can sidestep those regulations and utilize as many loopholes as they want.
Someone make a REGIUS DID NOTHING WRONG image
>black hole guns illegal
fuck that shit
>Yuuno gets to snuggle on Nanoha's ass.
The fucking bastard.
Whatever you do just don't get hyped at this bitch here. She's a fucking failure and a big dissapointment.
I recently watched S1 and it was pretty boring, a 6/10 at best.
Does it pick up hard later on or what?
The first series is boring. Watch S2.
It's different when THEY do it.
>yfw Vivio is voiced by Navi
Best parts of StrikerS:
Subaru and Teana
Episodes 17 and up
Vivio and being voiced by Kaori Mizuhashi
Nanoha becoming the show's equivalent of Ellen Ripley
The god-tier OPs by Nana Mizuki
More yuri subtext
Goddamn I loved StrikerS
>talking shit about her waifu
How do you feel about NanoFate never becoming official even until you turn 40 next year?
let me guess, hayate is taking the picture?
It's actually Erio.
Hence lewd topless Caro
I was already 30 when they became canon.
I agree. I think I'm the only one who ships HayateXFate
Why are androids so cute?
anon, pls we've been through this before.
>Erio can't contain his testosterone.jpg
Not sure if I can be okay with this.
I feel uneasy when I see my cute yuri couples in the presence of that blossoming masculine demigod.
>blushing Signum looking the other way
She's secretly fondling his dick.
I fucking hate him
the only male who is allowed to get bitches is Chrono
Jesus christ, my heart can't into all this HNNNNG.
Nanoha best girl, Hayate second best, by their powers united...
High res version.
>Ike! Fin Fanneru!
I can't help but see Stern and sometimes Dearche as boys.
Who are these girls?
i want to rape Nanoha and hear her adorable moaning voice.
They are called Materials.
Nanoha clone, Fate clone and Hayate clone
NanoFate makes me so happy. Unlike MadoHomu.
I wish Nanoha and Fate kept their adult hairstyles when transformed in StrikerS.
I mean, I don't mind the twintails but the sidetail and that huge thing Fate's rocking(or maybe a more sensible ponytail) were pretty flattering.
I hated the sidetail. I imagine it's the first thing Fate removes during lovemaking.
But isn't Erio allowed Caro?
Nanoha is such a slut.
>I hated the sidetail
I want to fuck Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate silly and see their a faces.
strange, it's one of Fate's lovable fetish point for me
This series has such bad doujins. Even yuri or futa are bad.
>kawaii, must hug
>i'm about to get violated
>we're trying to take a fucking picture here, say still you little shit
>i will masturbate to this tonight.
Its the short hair and probably their not so feminine personality.